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View Full Version : Help with images!!!
mbennett 11-02-2002, 10:38 PM could someone help me please???
http://www.jackals.uhlfans.com/images/Outline_01.gif
http://www.jackals.uhlfans.com/images/elmiratrans.gif
i need the second image on top of the first one and retain the colors and blend in so there isnt a white box around it. i assume you need to make a new layer. but what i need is the bottom image added to the top image and placed in the blue portion but kinda centered on the gray stripe at the bottom.
blueblueblueblueblueblueblue
blueblueblueblueblueblueblue
..................logo.......................
blueblueblueblueblueblueblue
graygraygraygraygraygraygray
kinda like that i guess it is a little diagram....lol...if you could help me out thanks alot and i really appreciate it
Acronym BOY 11-02-2002, 10:41 PM Select the white area of the foreground image and make it transparent as opposed to white.
DoobyWho 11-02-2002, 10:50 PM It's really not that hard. I just did it , and its easy. But you need to learn to do it. All you do is do a selection by white and delete the white around it.
mbennett 11-03-2002, 12:00 AM Originally posted by Acronym BOY
Select the white area of the foreground image and make it transparent as opposed to white.
it already is transparent. i dont really care how its done this is the first and last time ill do it...lol... i have it where the white is gone but when i try to cut or crop the logo and place it background it looks like crap. how do i move it to the background and retain the color?
Acronym BOY 11-03-2002, 12:14 AM Originally posted by mbennett
it already is transparent. i dont really care how its done this is the first and last time ill do it...lol
First off, it cant be transparent, or else you wouldnt be seeing a white box like you mentioned here:
Originally posted by mbennett
...retain the colors and blend in so there isnt a white box around it. i assume you need to make a new layer...
Lack of a white box would mean transparency. If all of the currently white areas are transparent, you should not have a white box at all.
You should care how its done, how else do you expect to do it? :rolleyes:
Its always fun seeing some 12 year old trying to do the simplest things in a pirated version of a hundred dollar image editing program and how they dont know what half of the things do.
Acronym BOY 11-03-2002, 12:17 AM Originally posted by mbennett
but when i try to cut or crop the logo and place it background it looks like crap.
Can you do two things? Find a keyboard with a working shift key and define "crap". You aren't being too specific here.
Originally posted by mbennett
how do i move it to the background and retain the color?
How are you losing color? Is it copying as a black and white image? Sepia? Be more specific, "retain color" doesnt tell me what you are doing wrong, nor does it tell me what you want to do.
mbennett 11-03-2002, 12:27 AM first off im 22 not 12, and why do you bash ppl, i just got photoshop and am not to familiar with it, i do wanna learn but i need this done.
it looks like this
http://jackals.uhlfans.com/images/Outline_0123.gif
Andrew 11-03-2002, 12:29 AM He can't select by color, as there's white in the wolf's head as well, no? Unless he has a layered psd or something, he's gonna have to separate the wolf's head from the rest of that pic and create it on a new layer. THEN he can remove the white from the layer below.
Maybe I'm losin it...
mbennett 11-03-2002, 12:38 AM im a newbie to photoshop and would love to learn how to fix this any suggestions??? i am trying to read up on tutorials. and why does everyone automatically assume someone is a 12 yr old with a warez version of photoshop??? just because someone is a new to something that means they are a 12yr old warez person??? where did everyone else get their start??? i mean you have to buy the software to learn it and why get an evaluation copy because it will expire b4 you learn anything. so if anyone has any suggestions please lemme know but just dont assume things about ppl you dont know. but thanx lightnin i thought there was something to do with layers.
Acronym BOY 11-03-2002, 12:42 AM Also it looks like your images are in two different color mos, Id venture to say that the background you want to use is in indexed and the other is either in RGB or CMYK (CMYK rules, I cant stand using RGB as a standard, than again too many years in a photo lab and you start doing stuff like that). It helps greatly if both images are in the same color mode. Lightin is also correct about selecting by color, as certain parts (on the wolf, do need to be white, while the white space around it must be transparent.
The reason everyone assumes is becuase Photoshop is a professional image editing package made for professionals who know what they are doing and spend 8+ hours a day looking at a monitor wiht a black mask around it.
Acronym BOY 11-03-2002, 12:44 AM You also might want to try getting a larger, higher quality version of the logo (and hopefully less jpeg artifacts) by googling for it here:
http://images.google.com/images?q=elmira+jackals&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en
It will make working on it easier.
mbennett 11-03-2002, 12:51 AM Originally posted by Acronym BOY
You also might want to try getting a larger, higher quality version of the logo (and hopefully less jpeg artifacts) by googling for it here:
http://images.google.com/images?q=elmira+jackals&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en
It will make working on it easier.
i have googled i do atleat 10 times a day....lol...and especially when i need an image i have gotten a few b4 i will mess with and see what i can do.
what would be the best way to move by cropping or cutting and pasting???
thanks again guys for all of ur help, the guy bove who said he did it and it worked can you post the image so i can see it or can you lemme in on how you did it. did you have to use a new layer or what???
Andrew 11-03-2002, 12:59 AM Use the magnetic lasso tool to select around the wolf as best you can. Then go into quick mask mode (below where you change background and text colors on the left side of the screen), enlarge the document as much as you can and paint and erase yourself a selection around the wolf's head as close as you can get.
Then go to 'layer' at the top and select 'new layer via cut'.
Then go back to the previous layer, selct white with the magic wand tool and hit the delete button.
I'm sure I'm showing my photoshop lameness with this, as even though I have about a year's worth of experience using it regularly, I still learn slowly. That, however should get you what you want. :)
mbennett 11-03-2002, 01:25 AM Originally posted by lightnin
Use the magnetic lasso tool to select around the wolf as best you can. Then go into quick mask mode (below where you change background and text colors on the left side of the screen), enlarge the document as much as you can and paint and erase yourself a selection around the wolf's head as close as you can get.
Then go to 'layer' at the top and select 'new layer via cut'.
Then go back to the previous layer, selct white with the magic wand tool and hit the delete button.
I'm sure I'm showing my photoshop lameness with this, as even though I have about a year's worth of experience using it regularly, I still learn slowly. That, however should get you what you want. :)
thanks alot i tried this and it still appears as it did above...I keep trying everything but still doesnt work. any more ideas???
Andrew 11-03-2002, 02:12 AM Dude, there's no way that should come out the same way as the thing you previously posted. If it does, you did it way wrong. :)
mbennett 11-03-2002, 02:51 AM i tried again and when i click layer all i have is flatten image, im using 7.0 does that matter?
madmouser 11-03-2002, 06:05 AM The version doesn't matter. The problem is that the graphics are indexed color and don't do transparency. You need to change that.
This is what you need to do.
1. Open both in Photoshop at the same time. Go to Image>Mode and change each to RGB.
2. Go to File>save as and save each as a .psd but keep them open.
Now you can work on them.
Use the black arrow to drag the jackal onto the blue. It will create a new layer. Always check that you're working on the right layer.
Use the magic wand to delete most of the white background from the jackal layer.
Erase the words. They'll never look right.
Use the eraser set at 1 to clean up the remaining white. Zoom in on it, do a little, then zoom back out (use the Navigator to make it easy). It's hard to see what you're actually working on when you're really close up.
When you've got the jackal cleaned up, put the words back on.
For the semicircle, use Arial Bold 11 pt. in a grey color, All caps, with about three to four spaces between the letters. Type in the word Elmira and then click on the T with the arc under it in the type bar at the top. This will let you Warp it into a semicircle -- use the first arc. Play with it until it looks right.
Type in Jackals at the bottom, in the same grey, all caps.
Save for web as a .gif.
When you finish, you should have something that looks like this:
http://www.madmouser.com/jackals.html
You can put a white layer under it when you're working on the black parts. I think I cut off part of his nose. Just delete the white layer when you're finished.
Remember it doesn't have to be exact, it just has to look the same.
mbennett 11-03-2002, 01:07 PM thank you so much laura, this has helped me with my little problem and with my future projects on how to make a new layer. thank you very much
mbennett 11-03-2002, 07:04 PM http://www.jackals.uhlfans.com
there it is i had to change the color cuz it just didnt look right.
i arched the elmira text and changed the color of it
now i gotta clean up the side and do the news and poll better
then the content, thanks again
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