About a month ago I signed up with FloHost. You know, the company run by a 17 year old kid. I have had nothing but problems. My site is always down and sometimes for days at a time. It was recently down because of a billing error. He said I owed him money when I didn't because I had only been signed up for 3 weeks.
He has a section on his site called 'Account Information'. It's not up yet so I sent him an email asking when it would be up and the reply I got made my opinion about FloHost even worse. I am now in the process of changing hosts. If anybody knows of a good one please let me know. Here is the EXACT email I sent him along with his EXACT reply.

MY EMAIL - "Are you planning on having the 'Account Information' section up any time soon? That would help out alot
with people paying bills"

HIS REPLY - "Dude shut the **** up, I will do things when I ****ing do them. You just send the ****ing money when I send your god damn bill. Go to hell if you do not like it and do not tell me how to run my ****ing business. And I do not care if you go whining to people that your webhost (Flohost) sweared at you. I am getting tired of all of your ****ing whining."


Very professional huh? If you search the rest of the webhostingtalk.com forums you'll see that he 'says' he openly accepts, and likes, constructive criticism. hah. yea right


Thank you all and don't use FloHost

Imagine that.

Did you search WHT before signing?

Also BTW something funny I dug up in his support forums: http://www.flosupport.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=191
He's for sure immature, and shouldn't be in this business if he treats his customers like that.

Never choose a biz who can't read the rules :D

17 hours to find a spammer? Hmmm, and who would be so idiotic to send 48000 emails to the email address of their host :/

Also by reading that post, I get the general feeling that his customers must live in the same house or something, as many of them are using the same language. If somebody was constantly using language like that on my forums they would one day find themselves locked out I'm affraid (after due warning, of course ;) )

I do regret the fact he's using the same VB skin as me, somehow makes me feel bad for some strange unknown reason :D

It's ok Tazz :):D.

That is simply amazing. I hope you cancel your account immediately. You can’t even move up the food chain to complain since he’s the “CEO” and owner! I don’t mean to slam all young entrepreneurs out there but this situation goes to show that there is something to be said for the professionalism and maturity of an older person over a 17 year-old. No matter how smart and determined you are (and he must be to have his own business at age 17) the fact remains he is only a teenager and that comes out crystal clear in his emails and post. If that is attitude towards his customers it won’t be long before he doesn’t have any! :rolleyes:

Agreed, although it's not *all* people. I believe splash host ceo is either 17 or 18, and started younger then that I believe am I not correct Alan?;), and there are many more examples.

it is very easy to see that this company is ran by a kid, just from the posts he has made.

But even i know that a 17 year old can run a hosting company with a certin level of professionalism. :rolleyes:

After "retiring" from WHT, Travis has gone into this mode where he thinks he's untouchable. He lives in a small town where he's the only one who's got the brains to work out the computer systems, networks etc. With so many people relying upon him, he thinks the same situation should apply on a global scale.

I've known Travis and his bull**** from the days he run a phpnuke based gaming website (www.gaming-havoc.com), in six months or so he was suddenly running a hosting company and he claimed/boasted regularly to us that he had his own data centre. A quick tracert shows clearly he only has a colocated server.

When myself and Matt (Smidwap.com) didn't offer him support when everyone here at WHT was flaming him (see the thread about EarHost's new management, his reaction was to send IMs to us with obscene messages. I think at the time Matt was wanting to buy a reseller from Flohost, and Travis responded with "**** off, you always ****ing whine all the ****ing time, i'm sick and tired of it"

I hope some day Travis is brought down a peg or two, and with his attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if it was sometime soon.

I have been with FloHost since this past July. There has been only 2 downtimes since I have been with them and each did last over 24 hours but other then that the downtime has been kept to a minimum.

Now I have had some unpleasant experiences with Travis myself on several occasions. I'm not going to argue there is no excuse for his behavior and its even embarrassing to say "I'm with FloHost" when these kind of topics are discussed but he was man enough to contact me back and apologize on each occasion.

The reasons I have stayed with FloHost for so long are because of the great prices and uptime. Travis also has a great support team working for him now that reply to help tickets asap and he seems to be improving the service all the time with extra features.

I honestly would not recommend FloHost to anyone for any reason because of his lack maturity but as far as I'm concerned I'm sticking with FloHost where I pay less for more and don't have any worries about the reliability and stability of my site.

Teamhead, i've seen your posts on FloHost's support site, and your review was the first one in a long time that just screamed 'honesty'.

FloHost is certainly cheap, so I wouldn't really argue otherwise whether or not people should host there, but I believe firmly that Travis is a egotistical kid, who sometimes doesn't deserve what life has given him. I'm not saying it from a jealous point of view, because I am in awe of the thousands of minors who have started up businesses and operate with a lot more maturity and professionalism. What Travis has accomplished in comparison to them is insignificant,

Travis has the best intentions. Now, I can't go further than what am I about to say, because I promised to him I wouldn't. He has a few personal problems that may cause him to really act like an a$$hole sometimes, but he can also be a nice person. The problem is, it depends on what time of day you talk to him. ;)

Remember Earhost ? Well, i was one of there clients, and Tim told me, that Flohost was taking over all earhosts clients. So i decided to give them ago. Travis told me that he had refunded $1000's to earhost clients, yet he wouldnt refund me my $50 :(. Anyways, after about 2 weeks, i wanted to cancel my account with him (which was a free month on trial), so i contacted him, and he cancelled it straight away for me. Then the next day, i asked him for my refund of $50, seeing as he was now owner of ex eh clients, and he made up some crap that, he had stopped because tim was lieing to him. Personally he talks bull. Dont trust him, or the company, and i believe hes 16, not 17.

Just my $0.02

Im not trying to disrespect him or flohost, but i would rather host my site at http://localhost than him.

Matt

Yeah.. I remember once, that Travis told me I should "respect" him..

I was like.. :eek: :rolleyes: :confused:

this is crazy... I went to his site and people seem to cheer him on... Hmm.... cursing and going on like he is crazy... in a profession there is no room for that... no matter how tired you are....

Lol his forum look's like he is Ben Laden with his minion followers :D.

I've known travis for a while, he has very good intentions, though he is emotionally unstable, one time he'll give me everything i want, 1 hour later i ask one little question he starts swearing

Originally posted by LordLardo
I've known travis for a while, he has very good intentions, though he is emotionally unstable, one time he'll give me everything i want, 1 hour later i ask one little question he starts swearing
That is exactly what I am saying too. I have to admit, maybe he shouldn't be running a web hosting business, but he has problems that most of us do not encounter.

I do like the title "go with the flo".... at least it is original... I think it is anyway.

Originally posted by hekwu
I do like the title "go with the flo".... at least it is original... I think it is anyway.
Hehe, it is original, but that has little or nothing to do with business. Anyways...... ;)

Sounds like a spoilt brat.

I am 17, and I sure as hell don't talk like that to my customers. Sure I pull a joke every now and then, but I never use profanities.

To bad I cant say the same for the artist who is being played from my computer at the moment - Eminem :stickout:

Originally posted by faculty
Sounds like a spoilt brat.
I'll be the first one to tell you he isn't a spoiled brat. :rolleyes:

It sound's like Travis has teret syndrome or something lol :D. Reminds me of Dewce Bigalo Male Gigalo;)

Originally posted by smidwap
Travis has the best intentions. Now, I can't go further than what am I about to say, because I promised to him I wouldn't. He has a few personal problems that may cause him to really act like an a$$hole sometimes, but he can also be a nice person. The problem is, it depends on what time of day you talk to him. ;)

You know what? EVERYONE has problems. You DO NOT treat your customers like that - unless maybe they start it - but even then you should rise above it.

If he can't handle customer service, he doesn't need to be in a service business - period.

But of course, that is just my $.02

hm. not saying anything bad about flohost. but anyway, this travis person? some ppl should be perhaps.. sympathetic towards him cuz maybe the ppl in his small town probably bugs him everyday and perhaps he has a short temper?
.. but still. can't treat customers like that at all, you'll just lose them.

hmm..:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Darph Bobo


You know what? EVERYONE has problems. You DO NOT treat your customers like that - unless maybe they start it - but even then you should rise above it.

If he can't handle customer service, he doesn't need to be in a service business - period.

But of course, that is just my $.02


That is true. Everybody has problems and things going on in their lives. I get mad all the time, but I would never take it out on a customer. Of all the times I've talked to travis I would think he had multiple personalities or somehting. ;/

Originally posted by Darph Bobo


You know what? EVERYONE has problems. You DO NOT treat your customers like that - unless maybe they start it - but even then you should rise above it.

If he can't handle customer service, he doesn't need to be in a service business - period.

But of course, that is just my $.02
Trust me, you don't have the kind of problems he has. That doesn't give him any right to treat his customers that way, I'm just saying it isn't that he is a bad person.

Heh i spent the last hour browsing through Flohost's forums.. everyone seems to be very happy there.

I am 17, and I sure as hell don't talk like that to my customers. Sure I pull a joke every now and then, but I never use profanities.

Join the growing crowd it seems. I'm 17, and I sure don't talk to any of my customers like that. No matter what type of problem he has he, a customer should not be swore at. If you can't hold it back, then maybe it's time to think of a new profession.

Originally posted by ChickenSteak
Also BTW something funny I dug up in his support forums: http://www.flosupport.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=191
He's for sure immature, and shouldn't be in this business if he treats his customers like that.



LOL His customers even supported him after he said that. This guy sounds like our good friend TIMMAY!

That's the part that had me LMAO.

Originally posted by interactive




LOL His customers even supported him after he said that. This guy sounds like our good friend TIMMAY!

Dua - Because most of his customers are around his age prob.

I've known travis for a while, he has very good intentions, though he is emotionally unstable

And what's wrong with being emotionally unstable?
:D

"Go with the Flo" is not orginal.

It's just another Earhost, Timmah will be behind it somehow.

I've been with FloHost since Jan. (I think that's when he started it all)... I see that Travis is very busy and is emotionally unstable, but it takes awhile before he cools down and thinks what he did wrong. I'm going to stay with FloHost because he was the first host I signed up that I had to pay for and for the good prices... If you be patiant with him, you'll see that he isn't a very bad guy.

Thats the beauty of the internet all the interesting people you meet.
Hey maybe he can become abusehost.com, guaranteed personal abuse for every new account opened.:D

I think travis is linked to tim somehow, whyelse would he hosts ex-eh clients for freee ?

Matt

There were about 25 clients, not 2500 like he kept saying, he certainly didn't pay over a $1000 in refund. I remember him boasting about how the design previous to the one he has right now cost him $1000, yet it turned out that the designer only charges $200-300 per design.

The reason for Travis to host those ex-clients was he wanted "respect" from everyone else here on WHT, because he was doing the *right thing* by supporting clients that the evil Tim (EarHost) had treated badly, only he was either:

a) being very stupid, by taking on ex-clients on a business model that would never succeed

or

b) in cahoots with Tim/James

Either way, the people here at WHT saw through him and didn't give him the support or request so he retired like an immature little child.

I don't personally care what mental problem he has, in the business world we all strive to be professional. Having a short temper, pretending to be a modern day jekell/hyde monster is not being professional.

Sadly it's the almighty $ that rules the world, and as long as people will be getting cheap service from FloHost, they'll stick around, no matter how much abuse they get.

Fazel, that about sums it up, good show.

[off topic] your signature is against the forum rules [/off topic]

But really, you did sum the whole "Thang" with that group.

Off Topic: I saw Chicken with a similar signature, which is why I thought mine would be OK. If you're sure it's against forum rules, I'll just edit it now...

Edit: Changed Sig

=) He pointed to an image that is a part of the forum (He made his homepage link a link to his offer.

I found some of the older fracticious posts, incredibly lame.. lol

=) He pointed to an image that is a part of the forum (He made his homepage link a link to his offer.

I just checked his post, you're right, but what you're referring to is his current signature. Just before this one, he actually had a link to the thread he had started, where his auction was playing out.

Anyway, back on-topic, www.hostinglounge.com is Tim/James's latest project. It's quite funny to see the forums populated by only one active poster (i.e. Tim).

I understand completely the person who comes from other places entirely and signs up with someone like Flohost. However, what I can't possibly understand is anyone from WHT who signed up with Flo. It was obvious from the beginning that this was just a new version of the same old Timmah type hosting. Furthermore, you could see the lack of maturity as well as basic lies in the first posts made here by Travis. And, one trip to the flohost forum told you even more. However, it appears from reviewing the forums at flohost, the majority of customers are young peers of Travis.

How long does it take one to learn about people like Timmah, Shawn, Travis, Samuel/Ben and others who show time and again the same colors.

I don't think we know that this guy found out about WHT before signing up for FloHost.

Originally posted by mcfcforever
Im not trying to disrespect him or flohost, but i would rather host my site at http://localhost than him.

Matt


Hahaha. That was funny.


I just posted a review about my bad experience, but it turns out there is always another extreme.

I forget who said it, but don't bring up the fact that he is young as an excuse. Age has nothing to do with it. You could be 230 and still be immature. Some people just don't go through puberty until 30 (Tim, Travis, all the guys), while I am only 15 and have the maturity and patience to run a hosting company. I treat my clients with respect, even if I am having a ****ty day.

Originally posted by dreamHOBO
I forget who said it, but don't bring up the fact that he is young as an excuse. Age has nothing to do with it. You could be 230 and still be immature. Some people just don't go through puberty until 30 (Tim, Travis, all the guys), while I am only 15 and have the maturity and patience to run a hosting company. I treat my clients with respect, even if I am having a ****ty day.

u got to be kidding.....mentioning that ur mature in pub. is one of the immature things u could ever do.
never the less ur "design must go " thread :laugh:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82725

so, you think you are more mature than dreamhobo? looking at the post you just made, your not making yourself look so hot...

Welcome to yet another exciting episode of...

Who's The More Mature 15 Year Old!!

this is episode #1,232,567 right?

Originally posted by x222943
this is episode #1,232,567 right?
Just about...

...Better get back on to topic until both users get in trouble. ;)

If you can't say anything nice about Flohost, don't say anything at all :D

Originally posted by FloHost
If you can't say anything nice about Flohost, don't say anything at all :D

doesn't seem like that's gonna happen any time soon..... :rolleyes:

Lol... yeah Darph Bobo. I found the person running FloHost to work very unprofessionally. If you search the forums there is only one bad thread about me and it was him lying that I ruined AcuNett's hard drives with a dangerous script I was running. He has no clue what he was talking about... that hard drive was a drive that failed at Rackshack(yes, hard drives fail) and it had to be replaced.. so what? He had to post our entire conversion on WHT. I wouldn't trust this host and hope other people do some searching before making decisions.:D And no, I'm not writing this to bash a competitor of mine, just the truth.:rolleyes:

- Mike

Originally posted by mas3000
Lol... yeah Darph Bobo. I found the person running FloHost to work very unprofessionally. If you search the forums there is only one bad thread about me and it was him lying that I ruined AcuNett's hard drives with a dangerous script I was running. He has no clue what he was talking about... that hard drive was a drive that failed at Rackshack(yes, hard drives fail) and it had to be replaced.. so what? He had to post our entire conversion on WHT. I wouldn't trust this host and hope other people do some searching before making decisions.:D And no, I'm not writing this to bash a competitor of mine, just the truth.:rolleyes:

- Mike
Oh no, how did AcuNett enter this picture so suddenly? Now I feel like I will be entering the picture soon enough. Oh! :stickout:

Originally posted by FloHost
If you can't say anything nice about Flohost, don't say anything at all :D

Sorry Travis, I apologize if you have felt offended by this thread. Here's just a few tips I thought you might like to take into consideration.

¤ Act professional towards your clients
¤ Try not to break promises
¤ Don't send your clients vulgar language
¤ If you get over heated, shutdown, sign off.

-Kyle

Thought you'd retired from WHT?
What is this? Your 2nd return from retirement already?

Originally posted by TheTech
¤ If you get over heated, shutdown, sign off.


Dont get me wrong but errr.. if you shutdown, how are you supposed to THEN sign off?

Would like to know :D

wow, how many 17 year old hosts are out there? lol Age isn't really an issue, it's how you carry yourself and run your business. I have, however, seen the lack of professionalism,etc amongst some of these 17yr olds. If these kids are smart enough to run a good business, more power to them! For those who do it to rip people off and actually have no real interest in providing QUALITY hosting, then find a hobby kid! OH, and If I was a client and was being cursed at..I dont care how good the prices are, I'd look elsewhere. I would not waste my time nor money paying someone (especially not a kid) to insult or speak to me in such foul language. Personally, I prefer someone with years of experience and is old enough to at least stay up past 11pm lol j/k :D. [/thinking] Hope my host is older than 17! [/thinking]:D

this is crazy, I tell you one thing, he wount be in business for a long time if he does not change his sick attitude.

I dont care if he is a nice person or if he has problems, one thing for sure if you are running a business you NEVER be rude to your customers especially for no reason whatsoever.

if my host even gave me a hit of disrespect I would look at it as a breach of contract, close the account and stay away from them.

Originally posted by lightnin
Welcome to yet another exciting episode of...

Who's The More Mature 15 Year Old!!

hahahahahah yes YES YES.

NICE.

LOL I really like when the person being accused of bad services, fraud etc on WHT finds the thread and posts in it. LOL It always happens. Anyway there should be an official blacklist of hosts so that when a proper cusomer wants to get some hosting they dont make a mistake of choosing one of those hosts.

btw all the sites in http://www.flohost.com/testim.php testimonials section are either non-business sites which have the look and feel of a site designed by an newbie or suspended accounts. LOL nice, someone needs to go back to school innit?

K3bab,

You didn't need to make four posts, couldn't you just have made one big one?

yes this way its broken down nicely

lol and adds nicely to your post count. Paragraphs are what people use to breakdown their points. Or bullets. Use that instead

yes master

:rolleyes:

Fine, just ask Chicken or some of the other mods what they think then, I'm obviously not a mod, so get it from the horses mouth on whether or not it's acceptible to post one message in four different consecutive posts.

Customer Service Rule #1:

The customer does not care what kind of mood you are in, whether your kids are sick, you having the stomach flu, a server that is acting up or anything else -- they just want their problem fixed -- as they have their own to deal with.

Oh, and do it with a smile -- even if you want to do nothing else but frown.

If all else fails, raise the Lithium!

Couldn't we all just take one deep breath in, and exhale out? Smell the fall leaves slowly falling to the ground? Well, I guess not! ;)

Originally posted by Fazel3
:rolleyes:

Fine, just ask Chicken or some of the other mods what they think then, I'm obviously not a mod, so get it from the horses mouth on whether or not it's acceptible to post one message in four different consecutive posts.

sorry master, I think you should become a mod

Anyways....... :rolleyes:

Maybe it is best to get off topic on such a thread as this one? :D

Hi Guys,

I just wanted to say that Travis, in the end, is a very nice person. He does have some emotional problems, but I dont want to elaberate on that. I have no doubt in my mind that Travid would send that email, no offense or anything. I do work for him as a staff member as a favor. I also keep watch over his servers. He tries his best to be nice, but it doesn't always come out that way, There is no excuse for his behaviour at all. You all shouldn't care if he's 17 or 32; all that matters is that he is mature enough to handle his company, which, some people of this thread beg to differ him being mature. He is a very nice person in the end. He has TONS going on. His school is on him 24/7 for computer problems, so, I know it doesnt matter, but he has a lot going on. This is why he is like this. I would never do anything to my customers that would result in that language or tone. If he's the worst person in the world, or the nicest person in the world, he doesn't deserve these kinds of comments.

It's better to not be on then sending those kinds of emails.

Thanks,
Chris

P.S. to WHT mods/admins - you need more active moderators to moderate these forums more strictly. There is a lot of bashing going on here, and I, personally, don't enjoy coming here.

Originally posted by CGarson
it doesnt matter

That's the important part of your post. It doesn't matter what's happening in your life. A customer expects a courteous professional attitude from business operators or staff, whether it's a tech, a lawyer, a waitress, or your local mail man. If I ever experienced that kind of attitude from anyone I was giving money to I'd probably burst a blood vessel in my head, before taken my business elsewhere.

Greg Moore

Originally posted by akashik


That's the important part of your post. It doesn't matter what's happening in your life. A customer expects a courteous professional attitude from business operators or staff, whether it's a tech, a lawyer, a waitress, or your local mail man. If I ever experienced that kind of attitude from anyone I was giving money to I'd probably burst a blood vessel in my head, before taken my business elsewhere.

Greg Moore

I'd agree with you.

Hi Guys,

I've been reading this thread, and I am a customer of FloHost (my current site is at http://www.directpixel.com)

I have been with him for almost a year now, and I do have to agree with you that sometimes, Travis does get stressed with many issues and some of his actions may be unjustified.

However, that gives you guys no right to bash him like he's some stone on the road. Does that make you the better person? No. Don't make assumptions based on unsure information.

Yes, from my username on this forum, you can probably also conclude that I am the owner of http://www.eisecure.com, a site that was attacked recently. Travis handled that situation very well, cooperating with both reporters and the FBI to look into the problems and fixing them quickly.

And a message to those few users who believe that nobody under 18 should run a business, I ask you, what were you like when you were 18? Did you have the desire to make something your own? Did you have the desire to start a service to help others? If you did, then please stop being hypocrites. If you could not tell how old I am, then there is no need for you to discriminate against the age of others.

Everybody makes mistakes, but the important thing is that they learn from it. These threads do nothing more but to lower this great forum's reputation. I'm not an active member here, but on rare occasions, I do check out the posts here, and almost every time, I see a thread like this, where members rudely and irrespectively assault other members.

If you see a bad company, fine. If you've had problems with a bad company, then send them a polite email explaining why you feel that way and how they can improve. Don't lower yourself and make superfluous accusations.


Regards,

Alex

Originally posted by eiSecure
If you see a bad company, fine. If you've had problems with a bad company, then send them a polite email explaining why you feel that way and how they can improve. Don't lower yourself and make superfluous accusations.
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This is what people try to do... hence basiclly what this whole thread is about. As I did say, nobody deserves to be bashed like this thread.

"Nobody deserves to be bashed"

I'm sorry, by that conviction, let's not bash the September 11th terrorists. After all they were just a bit upset, a bit stressed, Osama probably got dumped by his girlfriend, and he took it out on two of the world's tallest buildings. It's not his fault. Why don't we just write him a simple note, telling him how he could improve his contribution to the world and forget the past.

Sorry that's complete and utter bull**** as far as I'm concerned. There are protocols and there are ways to treat your client and FloHost/Travis did wrong and if he expects everyone to congratulate him instead - he's wrong. You have to take responsibility for your actions in this world, and the fact he's 16-17 doesn't exempt him in anyway. He's in a grownups world, he needs to behave like one.

Originally posted by Fazel3
"Nobody deserves to be bashed"

I'm sorry, by that conviction, let's not bash the September 11th terrorists. After all they were just a bit upset, a bit stressed, Osama probably got dumped by his girlfriend, and he took it out on two of the world's tallest buildings. It's not his fault. Why don't we just write him a simple note, telling him how he could improve his contribution to the world and forget the past.

Sorry that's complete and utter bull**** as far as I'm concerned. There are protocols and there are ways to treat your client and FloHost/Travis did wrong and if he expects everyone to congratulate him instead - he's wrong. You have to take responsibility for your actions in this world, and the fact he's 16-17 doesn't exempt him in anyway. He's in a grownups world, he needs to behave like one. You are taking that out of context. He was referring to a web host, not a terrorist.

Yes, he does deserve some criticism, but not the barbaric type of "criticism" that's found in this thread. How can one improve if all the comments he gets are "you're stupid" or "that's bull****"?

It's not out of context.

He is being criticised in this thread, and it's not barbaric. He's showing complete immaturity, he hasn't publically apologised for his actions, he "retired" from WHT when he didn't get his own way.

In fact he's acting like a spoilt 17 year old. Immature to the bone. He's getting the criticism he deserves, nothing more.

Basically to summarize everything:

No, nothing exempts Travis from doing anything that he did, and yes, maybe it was good to give WHT users a warning about this, but no, he shouldn't have been bashed as he was in this thread.

(May not be my opinion, just summarizing the thread's main points. :D )

bashed? well maybe next time he will act in a more professional manner.

When a company goes above and beyond we hardly ever see threads such as:

"So-and-So Host Is Awesome! Have to read this."

Expecially on Web Hosting Talk

I have done more good than bad and I should not be recognized only for the wrong I have done. Excuse me for being human.

Originally posted by FloHost
I have done more good than bad and I should not be recognized only for the wrong I have done. Excuse me for being human.
Many of us are blinded to the good you have done. Maybe you could help us out with some examples, since not all of us are FloHost customers.

Also, being human is one thing, but it isn't often you meet a host that can't keep his/her emotions in himself/herself. All humans will make mistakes, yes, but some people have found your doings more than mistakes-they have seen them done on a continual basis.

Not being a FloHost customer, I am just interpreting what your critics are trying to say.

I am not going to go into how this came about as it would just be construed as an excuse for my negative behavior however I will say this; I know I have an anger problem and I know that it shows sometimes. I also know that it hurts me very much. If I say this I will expect that you people will be curtious enough not to call me a depressed loser or anything. You can keep your comments to yourself however I hate my anger problem and I am working on it. It comes out of nowhere and when it gets going I can not control it. Yes some of you are thinking I am some crazy lunatic and that is how I feel. I feel like an outcast at times because my anger problem isolates me. It chases everyone away and I do not like that one bit.

I am ashamed of myself because of my anger problem and everyone here that just calls me names and says I suck does not help me to solve my problem so if you would please keep your negative comments to yourself it would be greatly appreciated. I know I have made some mistakes and I know I have lost people because of them however I am in it for the long run and I am going to beat my anger problem. Once again, I ask that you people who are being negative to please stop it. It is not helping the situation any and if you know any ways to deal with my anger you can share them with me.

I have been through counceling, I have been locked up even because of my anger problem. It is not something that I am proud of. If you have anything negative to say about what I just told you that just goes to show that you have some problems of your own. I do not go around insulting people on purpose and if you come back to me later after I have had a chance to cool down I will be straight with you. I am honest and I do not hold things against people.

That is all I have to say on this subject.

[Edit: This post should be before Travis's last post, we posted at the same time]

Travis,

Unless you're giving away monthly cheques to Cancer Research, Red Cross or doing anything else that's changing the poverty, want and disease in the world, I fail to see what good you're doing. On past occasions, you've had your little outbursts, at me, at my colleagues, potential customers and worst of all, even your own customers!

I don't call offering cheap prices for hosting, by running a company illegaly (you've admitted you don't have a licence, and that you don't pay taxes) as doing "good". My picture of you is someone who has little respect for his clients, has associated with known scam artists, not to mention that you were *so* mature, that you retired from WHT, because people didn't support you. By the way this is your fourth post since you're "retirement". That's all the bad stuff you've done, please tell me what good stuff you've been involved in? Don't mention giving Timmay another chance, because giving a well known scam artist, another chance, isn't being good, it's being stupid.

Just to answer your little statement about how people don't post about companies when they go above and beyond. Do a little search for Xtreme Masta. Read how people congratulated BrightLightWebsites and how highly people now think of Faculty. See Faculty did something that was clearly good, he helped out a kid who has a lot of problems. He was genuine about it as well, he didn't do it for his own private interests.

Originally posted by FloHost
I am not going to go into how this came about as it would just be construed as an excuse for my negative behavior however I will say this; I know I have an anger problem and I know that it shows sometimes. I also know that it hurts me very much. If I say this I will expect that you people will be curtious enough not to call me a depressed loser or anything. You can keep your comments to yourself however I hate my anger problem and I am working on it. It comes out of nowhere and when it gets going I can not control it. Yes some of you are thinking I am some crazy lunatic and that is how I feel. I feel like an outcast at times because my anger problem isolates me. It chases everyone away and I do not like that one bit.

I am ashamed of myself because of my anger problem and everyone here that just calls me names and says I suck does not help me to solve my problem so if you would please keep your negative comments to yourself it would be greatly appreciated. I know I have made some mistakes and I know I have lost people because of them however I am in it for the long run and I am going to beat my anger problem. Once again, I ask that you people who are being negative to please stop it. It is not helping the situation any and if you know any ways to deal with my anger you can share them with me.

I have been through counceling, I have been locked up even because of my anger problem. It is not something that I am proud of. If you have anything negative to say about what I just told you that just goes to show that you have some problems of your own. I do not go around insulting people on purpose and if you come back to me later after I have had a chance to cool down I will be straight with you. I am honest and I do not hold things against people.

That is all I have to say on this subject.
Amen...

If you have an anger managment problem.. Customer Service is the wrong job for ya :D

Originally posted by The Prohacker
If you have an anger managment problem.. Customer Service is the wrong job for ya :D
As he said, he is trying hard to improve upon the problem. Maybe web hosting isn't the right choice for business at this point in time. :confused:

Just been asked to read your last post Travis...

I'm sorry, I don't sympathise with you, you're not being honest.

If you have an anger problem, the best way to solve it is to start a web hosting company? A stressful 24/7 job, which requires direct contact with clients. It seems like the anger problem is the least of your worries, if you think that continuing to run FloHost, in your state of mind is a healthy choice, for both yourself and your clients

Originally posted by Fazel3
I'm sorry, I don't sympathise with you, you're not being honestI apologize in advance for this post. Please excuse me.

<<REMOVED: There's no excuse for rudeness. You've been warned. You get one warning.>>

Why is it that the people that go around getting all in a tizzy about things on message boards and calling people names always tell others to 'get a life'?

Strikes me as a bit of the psychological phenomenon known as projection at work...

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Why would I know he's not being honest? Because I've known him for over a year now. I've known him for a very long time, and I know exactly what he's like. Don't go preaching, without getting your facts right first.

whoa calm down :) heh we all have a temper, justto varying degrees, i tend to take a lot of pushing but when i get pissed people suffer, the gym suffers far more:) give the guy a little credit for trying to overcome a problem. he obviously has balls, grit and determination. having said that maybe hiring a customer rep would be adviseable.
To travis, well done mate, consider finding ways to distance yourself from customers maybe but dont loose heart. Take a leaf outta cavemans book (well stone tablet) and keep a punch bag in the office or live close to a gym. get narked, kill punchbag, feel better. anyways best of luck to you.

Ya know before I didn't think that Travis should be running FloHost before with his anger problem. I still don't think he has the right to go off on someone, but really he's knowledgeable in webhosting and as he said he felt outkast. So rather than just sitting out at home and not doing anything he's tried to do something with is life and has done something with it, starting FloHost.Com. Travis, my recommendation is you know you have an anger problem, rathar than going off and cussing someone out get some workout equipment. I mean you get like 2 things good out of it, you get ripped and you may help keep a customer at your company.

Why? Because the user was treating another human being lower than what one would treat a dog, or any other animal.

Don't let the door hit ya in the a---I mean See ya!! :wavey:

lol hey not all of us are bad. some of us hosts rock:)

Originally posted by richy
whoa calm down :) heh we all have a temper, justto varying degrees, i tend to take a lot of pushing but when i get pissed people suffer, the gym suffers far more:) give the guy a little credit for trying to overcome a problem. he obviously has balls, grit and determination. having said that maybe hiring a customer rep would be adviseable.
To travis, well done mate, consider finding ways to distance yourself from customers maybe but dont loose heart. Take a leaf outta cavemans book (well stone tablet) and keep a punch bag in the office or live close to a gym. get narked, kill punchbag, feel better. anyways best of luck to you. See, that's a nice post. It was honest, respectful, and most importantly, helpful.

Something for you guys to learn.


As to your comment, Fazel, I too have known Travis for quite a while. Every time I talk to him, whether by email, phone, PM, or IM, he has always apologized for any problems he may have had. I know for a fact that he is not the evil devilish-like person that you are trying to potray him as.

Well, if he thinks the best way to sort out his anger problems is to start a business, than he has no-one but himself to blame. Hosting can be extremely important to businesses, sometimes people's entire futures are based on their site, and he has so much respect for those people/businesses, that he opens a hosting company of his own. Do people deserve to see their life washed down the a plughole, just because a moody, unstable teenager decides life isn't going his way? He has a duty to his clients, if he doesn't perform it, he's not likely to get any praises from my side. If he can't handle being polite and professional, than he should sell Flohost and take up Golf or something where he's not in charge of other people's money and lives.

Simple fact is that you don't treat clients/friends the way he does. I could forgive him for swearing, cussing and making my life difficult, but no-one can overlook the way he treats his clients.

Anyway I see that like him you've pulled a temper tantrum and decided to leave WHT, rest assured, I'm not going to lose sleep over the fact you think I'm an idiot. I won't be missing you either.

Originally posted by Fazel3
Well, if he thinks the best way to sort out his anger problems is to start a business, than he has no-one but himself to blame. Hosting can be extremely important to businesses, sometimes people's entire futures are based on their site, and he has so much respect for those people/businesses, that he opens a hosting company of his own. Do people deserve to see their life washed down the a plughole, just because a moody, unstable teenager decides life isn't going his way? He has a duty to his clients, if he doesn't perform it, he's not likely to get any praises from my side. If he can't handle being polite and professional, than he should sell Flohost and take up Golf or something where he's not in charge of other people's money and lives.

Simple fact is that you don't treat clients/friends the way he does. I could forgive him for swearing, cussing and making my life difficult, but no-one can overlook the way he treats his clients.

Anyway I see that like him you've pulled a temper tantrum and decided to leave WHT, rest assured, I'm not going to lose sleep over the fact you think I'm an idiot. I won't be missing you either. See? Wasn't that hard to make a good post, wasn't it?:)

You made good points, backed them up with relevent facts and logic, and it all came out nicely, without need for being rude.:stickout:

No need to patronize :)

...thought you were leaving? :confused:

Originally posted by eiSecure [B]
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:D (Excused to a certain extent. ;) Actions speak louder than words [I'm refering to the words I quoted you at the top].)

IMHO, this thread has lived as long as it should. Its point has been made loud and clear (though not to all): Travis has some anger management problems, but he has only the best intentions. He is like any one of us, just he has one large impedement in front of him.

(Should I try one of those "I declare this thread offically closed" techniques. ;) )

EDIT: IMO, because of all the (supposed) facts stated in this thread, some for Travis keeping his business, some against, I say leave it to Travis to decide whether he keeps his business or not. We are all just talking. I hope that many of these rude comments (stated in the earlier posts in this thread) will not persuade Travis in any way to discontinue his business. It is solely his decision (unless of course the government gets involved for some reason ;) ).

Originally posted by Fazel3
...thought you were leaving? :confused: heh, was just stepping away to grab a coke.:)

It's clearly apparent to me now that this forum consists of nothing more than a bunch of ego-centric hosts who try to build themselves up by bringing others down using shameful tactics.

See you kiddies later.

Maybe I read this wrong then? :confused:

If you're staying... :beer:

See you kiddies later.That was me stepping away from my computer.

I hate all of you, I'm tired of your childish attitudes, I'm leaving WHT for good

^^

That's me, saying that I'm tired, and going to bed in a few mins time.

Originally posted by mcfcforever
Im not trying to disrespect him or flohost, but i would rather host my site at http://localhost than him.

Matt

HAHAHA! Good one.

g'nite fazel :)

Travisknows alot bout hosting, not about biusness, im guessing since he already told everyone bout ear host he won't mind me releaseing a bit bout of a conversation

LordLardo: Hey travis i read on webhostingtalk that you sent refund for earhost was it a mmistake?

Travis : No it wasn't

LordLardo: how da heck did it get sent

Travis: Earhost and ********* and ********** are a part of us

LordLardo : How di you guys get such bad rap?

Travis: I didn' i bought it

LordLardo: um i don't think that was a good idea

Travis: SImple i will annouce that i bought earhost and appear to be a savior

LordLardo: um i dont think dats a very good idea

Travis: It'll work, trust me

LordLardo: how bout ********

_____________________________________________________
Terminated, to not reveal information

well I respect his problems, yet I dont completely agree that negative comments should be kept to 'ourselves' if that was so we would never know about hosts that have problems.

I agree customer support is not for travis, perhaps you should employ someone to do it for you, will be better.

Also I have to say FloHost is a terrible name becuase it sounds almost like FlawHost if you are saying it to someone who never saw it written down. It counts in business. I would ge3t a new name...

This is my last post here so good luck to any customers of FloHost and good luck to Travis.

I can't believe this thread is still active. Last I posted, it was on the 4th or 5th page I think. Now i'm on the 8th. 113 replies.. HA.

time for the mods to close this thead? ;)

Originally posted by Fazel3
Just been asked to read your last post Travis...

I'm sorry, I don't sympathise with you, you're not being honest.

If you have an anger problem, the best way to solve it is to start a web hosting company? A stressful 24/7 job, which requires direct contact with clients. It seems like the anger problem is the least of your worries, if you think that continuing to run FloHost, in your state of mind is a healthy choice, for both yourself and your clients


Fazel,
I can see where you are coming from however how can I ever overcome my anger problem if I allow myself to be hindered by it? Also, I may have had a few outbursts; if you were to put that into a ratio against all of the times I have done great with my attitude and such you could say that 97% of the time I have been great. There is a small 3% that is bad and I am working to eliminate that. When you grow up and kids I will feel sorry for them because if they have problems and when they try to overcome them I can see you saying something like, "You do not know how to read? Then why are you reading that book? In your state it is not healthy to read that book because you can not handle it."

Travis

Fazel,
I can see where you are coming from however how can I ever overcome my anger problem if I allow myself to be hindered by it? Also, I may have had a few outbursts; if you were to put that into a ratio against all of the times I have done great with my attitude and such you could say that 97% of the time I have been great. There is a small 3% that is bad and I am working to eliminate that. When you grow up and kids I will feel sorry for them because if they have problems and when they try to overcome them I can see you saying something like, "You do not know how to read? Then why are you reading that book? In your state it is not healthy to read that book because you can not handle it."

Take this as an extreme example, as to why you still haven't understood what I'm getting at:

A child abuser, is named, shamed and listed. Now without going for professional help, without repenting for his crime, a year later on he decides to start teaching at a school. Do you think that just because, he abused the child, for only a few minutes of his life, the rest of which, he had led in a right manner, that we should forgive him and let him get on as normal?

Obviously not, and the same goes for you. By admitting your problem, you've come part of the way to repentance. I'd like to see an apology and possibly, an effort by you to get professional help, then only can you rebuke anyone who criticizes and bashes you.

As signature :cool:

i have read every page of this thread and now i know what host not to join. =) Sorry Travis but those who said that hosting is not the way to go when you know you already have temper problems are right. This is a bad decision on your part.

I'm pretty amazed that FloHost is still alive despite all this stuff being said. My trust in Totally Hosted was gone after I came to this forum and found out about Ben/Sam and his hosting feedback. Soon after reading about all this, his site went down completely and many here were mad about it too. Eventually he did come on here and apologized, but i think it came wayyyyy too late.

And so it is with Travis. For me, there would now have to be some kind of extremely long lasting (and i mean months, possibly years) proof that he has stabilized. Temper problems don't change overnight, so trust is not going to be an option anytime soon, *unless* he does what someone here suggeted which is to get someone else to do customer support etc.

All in all, I really do think that if Travis could grow up a little and read all these posts objectively he would learn a lot and protect his business and do better for himself. He has been unwilling to apologize for anything or even admit any of his faults. At one point the only thing he said was "forgive me for being human", so basically he wouldn't apologize because he is human. Then i guess nobody ever needs to apologize since we're all human. Phew. :laugh:

no this is just childish. If I ever experienced a fraction of what people have described here in this forum with Travis, I would have gotten out of it as soon as i could! A webhost is like a shop on the streets, if some customer rep. yells at you for returning busted hardware for example, you would possibly go as far as bringing a cop with you and forcing him to take back the hardware back. The point is, on the internet people often make the mistake of thinking that it's okay to be more rude and more annoying. It's easier to swear and insult someone than it is to do so online. I once made the mistake of being pushy online and lost a job opportunity because of it. At least I learned from it.

Well, that's all for me. As Fazel said, I hate you all and i'm leaving this forum for GOOD!!! :angry: ..... until tomorrow morning when i come back to work.

See ya

Raji

:eek: :) :D (Expresses how I felt after reading ^^ ;) .)

lol courtesy of eiInsecure of course... i should have mentionned that.

Raji you summed it up perfectly, and you stole my joke.... not bad, not bad at all :D

Originally posted by Raji
lol courtesy of eiInsecure of course... i should have mentionned that.
Huh? :eek:

Originally posted by Fazel3
Raji you summed it up perfectly, and you stole my joke.... not bad, not bad at all :D
Hrmm......didn't quite find it funny but oh well! :D

hehe you didn't miss much smidwap

Fazel: thanks for the flattering comments. I usually always end up missing stuff that I wanted to mention like this:

Travis said "If you don't have anything good to say about FloHost then don't say anything at all"

uhm, kinda defeats the purpose of having a webhost forum doesn't it Travis? Sounds like he posted before thinking on that one. This was probably in one of the very early pages of this thread. I think it was the first reply from Travis.

and finally, i have to admit something that i think all of us (or at least many of us) are "guilty" of. I quoted guilty because it's not quite the word i'm looking for but it's been a long day at work. :) Anyway, flaming. Yes flaming is fun. It's like taking a racing simulation game and what's the first thing you do? That's right, Race around at 200 Mph in the wrong direction just so you can imagine the 1s and 0s of fear the computer drivers must feel before crashing into you and seeing those car parts flying around all over the place and the fire and the destruction. It's fun. lol.

In this thread there was a valid problem, but flaming is still a fun option that i like to throw in every now and then. =/

evil me

Raji

Originally posted by Raji
lol courtesy of eiInsecure of course... i should have mentionned that. :confused:

What did I have to do with your comments?

nothing i was just joking around :)

Originally posted by Raji
nothing i was just joking around :) Oh, okay.:stickout:

oh

Originally posted by Raji

uhm, kinda defeats the purpose of having a webhost forum doesn't it Travis?


There is a difference between constructive criticism and deconstructive criticism. A lot of you have deconstructive criticism for me. I would wish that you keep it to yourself and not be rude to me.

Travis

If you hadn't been rude in the first place, this thread wouldn't have existed. *ding*

Anyhow...

Originally posted by Fazel3
time for the mods to close this thead? ;)