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WeekendAdmin
10-31-2002, 11:47 PM
Hi everyone :)

Since I was tricked into Hostonce for its claim of "unlimited bandwitch", I am now allergy to the word unlimited, since too much good things cannot be true!

So, are any of the below services realistic?
ulimited sub domains
ulimited domains
ulimited mysql dbs
ulimited mailing addreses
Unlimited POP3 Email Accounts

I thought some companies require others to pay for sub domains if the number exceeds 3-5, so I wasn't so sure about the validity of unlimited sub domains, and unlimited MySQL DB?


So far I am leaning toward Gigabean [http://gigabean.com], with the service:

Monthly $5.36
Disk Space 100Mb
Bandwidth Allowance 2GB
5 Sub-Domains
5 Domain Parking
5 Add-on Domains
Anonymous FTP
CPanel 5 Control Panel
Search Engine Submissions Tool
30-Day Money Back Guarantee
FrontPage 2002 Extensions
24X7 FTP Access
15 POP3/Autoresponder Accounts
..... (more additional services)

and also R2HOST's offer:

500MB and 5GB bandwidth/transfer only $3.33/mo
Your account features:
Disk Space 500 MB
Ensim Contol Panel!
Data Transfer/Bandwidth 5 GB/mo.
Sub-Domains Unlimited
Domains Pointers Unlimited
SMTP/POP Servers, POP3/IMAP Mailboxes
Email Addresses Unlimited
FTP Accounts Unlimited
24 X 7 FTP Account
Perl/modPerl/CGI-bin/Python Support
Server Side Includes(SSI)
PHP4.2.2
FrontPage Extensions
MySQL Database 3.23.41(with phpmyadmin)
Detailed web stats & Access to Raw Log Files
SSL (Secure Server)
(more additional services)

or Unlimited Hosting:
150MB Space
1GB Bandwidth
$3/Month or $30/Year
Ensim Control Panel
Red Hat Linux 7.2
PHP 4.2.3
Cold Fusion CFM Support with Multiple DSNs
Full ASP Support via Sun Chili!Soft ASP
JSP Support (Via Tomcat)
FrontPage 2002 Extensions
Perl
Cgi-Bin
MySQL 3.23.52
Unlimited Domain Hosting
Unlimited Subdomains
POP3 E-Mail
SMTP Server


many great deals and I was overwhelmed! Now time to compare and deicde which one to go for :)

Knogle
11-01-2002, 12:14 AM
ulimited sub domains - yes
ulimited domains - i've never actually come accross that before, but i'd give it a 'yes'
ulimited mysql dbs - uhm, no
ulimited mailing addreses - yes
Unlimited POP3 Email Accounts - yes

If you look at the TOS you'll probably see that the 'unlimited' is bounded by your disk quoata etc; so they're only "unlimited" artificially. Unlike unlimited bandwidth, where there is literally no end to usage.

At least thats how I look at it :)

wlandman
11-01-2002, 12:22 AM
Really? so your saying I could create 100,000,000 and kill the DNS server? how much diskspace would another sub domain take up?

akashik
11-01-2002, 12:30 AM
pretty much :D We used to have unlimited e-mail fowarders,and aliases for example till I started to think it was a bit hypocritical pounding away on the 'U' word hosts. They got changed to 1000 instead.

Splash Host used to have unlimited domains, but Alan changed that to a realistic number (I believe they still use a real number).

I agree there's a bit of a double standard. It's not totally unjustified given the difference between subdomains, and transfer, but I personally tend to fall on the side of not using it at all.

Greg Moore

smidwap
11-01-2002, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by akashik
(I believe they still use a real number)
As opposed to an....imaginary number? :eek: ;)

Realistically, the word "unlimited" just cannot be. Think about it in real terms: You cannot have unlimited this or that...you just can't. In response, many "unlimited" web hosts would say that no one will ever use more resources than their servers can handle. Whatever their response is, having the word "unlimited" in a business plan sort of contradicts the whole idea of a business plan. :o

image1
11-01-2002, 12:51 AM
wlandman, a subdomain well take up as much space as you allow, With repect to your allocated disk space. :)

And to you, weekendadmin. I think that yyou should look around the web for the most suitable host, who will meet your needs. dont be side tracked to the infamous "unlimted" term. Unlimited is limited to your space and whatnot. Tary checking out Acunett.com and httpme.com. Also, when finding you a reselling package do some math crunching to amke sure it is a good deal, and not some fly by night rush.:D

net-trend
11-01-2002, 01:25 AM
ulimited sub domains
ulimited domains
ulimited mysql dbs
ulimited mailing addreses
Unlimited POP3 Email Accounts

These are all realistic, however the use of the word unlimited might not be suitable and we might as well say..."have as many as you can fit in your account", but that's just too many words.

Basically everything is limited by your accounts disk space and transfer anyways, so stating "unlimited mysql databases" is although not entirely correct the root of the meaning is there.

WeekendAdmin
11-01-2002, 01:57 AM
Thanks all for your help, I now have a better understanding at these things :)

great advice image1, I am currently looking at those sites and going to compare their deals with the offers I've gotten so far. :)

matrosov
11-01-2002, 02:50 AM
I would say yes to all of those as long as you remember that you are still limited by disk space/bandwidth. Some hosts will put a limit on these things but what if host offers 4 SQL dbases and you need 5? The host lost the sale and you are forced to look some more. As far as host concern they don't really care how many sql or e-mail accounts you have, they are not a cost drivers, space and bandwidth are. So, many hosts put either unlimited or a really high number for those items. As long as you aware that all these things count against your bandwidth and space allotment I would not be alarmed by the word unlimited when it comes to these features.