http://rackforce.com/build.php?orderType=viper

what is this equivalent to in terms of GBs?

This would most likely be around 1.5MBps
I'm not 100% sure though

Hope that helps
Darren

1.544Mbps=.001544Gbps (per second)
X60sec=.09264Gbpm (per minute)
X60min=5.5584Gbph (per hour)
X24hours=133.4016Gbpd (per day)
X30days=4002.048GbpM (per 30 day month)

That is, providing 100% uptime and full pipe usage.

323 x 1.5 = 485 gb or so. keep in mind though that the peak is usually 1.8 of the average usage. if you want to pump the full 485, you will have to put up with some packet loss.

cheers,
paul

so they are selling 4000GB/mnth for $99/mnth?

I would imagine that they would 'persuade you' to upgrade to the 10Mbps line before you really pushed that limit, and like rusko said, you'd get packet loss and pretty cruddy throughput I would imagine.

so realisticly, about what amount of transfer is it?

It wold be something like 406-430 GB per month..

But remeberif you get like 10 user at the same time downloading something the transfer rate will be 10,5 Kb/s


There are better servers out there it more GB per month on there network not on a T1 ( that's 1.5 MB ) that's not good man :)

Too those

www.unitedcolo.com ( just got my first server from than today :)
$99
1.7 Gz
512 Ram
60 HD
500 Gb
www.rackshack.net ( Din't like than :(
$99
1.3 Gz
512 Ram
60 Hd
400 Gb


Check these ISP's pall :) :o

I think you may be looking too shallow. Better check into them all. Rackshack is pretty respectable (regardless of their cameras, which I like) and Rackforce's support is fantastic. UCG needs to get their head out of their *** before they put themselves out of business. I don't mean their pricing scheme either.

I've never used rackshack, but I have been with UCG and currently use rackforce.

UCG ? What is that ?

Unitedcolo Gruop ?

yes, sorry, UCG = Unitedcolo.com = united colo group

Lol for a minute there i was lost...

I don't know the rackforce but i just don't like a 1.5 MB cap that's too little for me it a 10 MB cap i get kind'a ichi's...hehehe



But analize it and give it a go :)

u just started with a new server and are already needing 10mps?

Remember that UCG advertised and sold those at 100Mbps. They decided to change it to 10Mbps without telling anyone first, and then expect everyone to just live with it. What else will they change and not tell you after you already signed up?

There are several more examples of bad choices that UCG has made in their short history. Search the threads.

10Mbps isn't worth anything if you can't keep your server online.

The last phrase you spoken i din't understand...

But if UCG did that... they had to.

Imagem how much competition ( rs and etc ) are getting servers there and spam it it...

They had problems it the 100 MB cap beacuse "people" was making dos and spam true the intranet and internet...

They seems a good company...

Rs has a support that's looks like a party... log on to there support on the mirc...

Look at there ad's "headsurfer lost his mind" I only newed what was our how was it the "headsurfer" when i check there forum.

I Don't know i say a company that try's to sell dedicated server top line and does not make a good image off the company...

i am not questioning the decision they made to limit their bandwidth to 10Mbps.

i am questioning their method of doing this to people who signed up with them under the 100Mbps and were not even told it was changed. That is wrong. What if you purchased TV cable with 100 channels and then found out one day they just decided (however good of a decision it was) to only give you 10, but never told you, and never changed their price?

I would imagine that any large corporation like rackshack will have people screwing off under a camera if they are all around and 24/7. u never worked for a big company, have you?

I think your implication that rackshack is using UCG's servers to spam them is uncalled for.

What I meant from the last sentence is that UCG doesn't exactly have a great uptime going. When they start getting a lot of severs online, it won't get any better.

I Know i get your ideia..But men...

Look from my point off view...


The @Home was 8 MB's and they prefere to sell the company beacuse was goin on red line, than lower there cable limit...

Than ATT got there services and cap ervy one to 1.5 Mb.

Wold it be easy if they cap to 4 MB our 3 MB ?


Look at RS they charge $99 for celeron 1.3 Gz 60 HD
And they charge $99 for p4 1.7 40 HD

Does that look's right ? There are some Colbat it 20 Gb for $ 99 on the Bargain while just few days ago was a few Colbat 40 Gb for $99.

Get my point ?


You are too negative...

RS has a mirc support than when you enter it's look's like a party UGC has email and telefone. i get a response like 0-2 hours tops.

I'm not saying that but some company's do that to get rid off there competition...


I'm new i say what i see i see what i think... i'm goin to say what i think :) Until i see your words our your story happen i'm goin to have my own ideias :)

what country are u from?

I'm from Brasil why :)

If someone gets a cobalt box with them - how much bandwidth "speed" do they get and how much transfer do they get for $99?

rackshack has email, phone and ticket support as well. irc (not 'mirc') is an alternative which is preferred by the clueful people out there.

rs is hands down the best $99 provider out there.

cheers,
paul

what country are u from?
I think it may be due to your many typos above, but thats not your fault :)

Im not being an arse, im just saying, so no one say i'm being mean :( or i may CRY!

I must ask hostingsp, how long have you been in the hosting business?? 2 days??

You can't judge a company let alone bash a company until you have used them. We've given our opinions based on real experiences not superficial reasons. You wanna argue with Rackshack (I don't know if this is true) the largest hosting company in the world. They do 1000 servers per month. Look at UC - they just came on the dedicated server scene. I don't know about you but I like to know that a company has experience in the business. Do you think rs would be around if they didn't provide decent support to their customers. Why do they sell 1000 servers per month?? Consistently I might add. Before you go bashing other companies based on really stupid reasons I suggest you do your homework, do a little forum searching, you'll find the right answer eventually. Quite frankly I think I speak for most people in saying we don't care what provider you go with. It makes no difference to us. What matters is that we know the experience you've had with the company you chose when you have used them, not when you've based your conclusion on something like having IRC support. I've never heard something so ludicrous. Try a company out before you give your opinion, or you'll be reemed out of WHT for good by people who respect the 'unwritten code' around here. :) (no pun intended)

1.5 mbit? My busiest server does about 200 gigs per month in raw transfers and routinely peaks to 2.5 mbits. I would consider 1.5 mbit too limiting for burst speeds even for just one server.

Bandwidth is funny, I have servers that routinely peak to 1.x and 2.x megabit/s throughput, but my overall usage for 15 servers in my private rack is under (not much but it is under) 10 megabits on the 95%.

If given the choice between United.Colo, Rackshack and Rackforce who would you choose?

hostingsp please do not answer - no offence but I'd prefer other advice.

Rackforce personally, although I have never been with rackshack, so I cannot give an opinion on them.

I currently have a Viper server at RackForce with the 1.5 Megabit connection. The trouble with it is it's a fixed thoroughput and there is no traffic prioritization so if someone with a full T-1 or 1.5 megabit DSL connection is downloading a large file, they will utilize the entire pipe. Anyone trying to access the server at that point will have massive latency if they can hit the server at all. It's fine if you can be certain your clients will only be serving text, and not any downloads but it's hard to offer a service where you explicitely forbid any type of binary file downlaods.

The next step up for the 10 megabit connection is an additional $275/mo which could be worth it if you could actually utilize that much bandwidth. Unfortunately I've ran into some issues with a couple of their support personnel which kind of turned me off of their service so I'm moving to a metered server at Ventures Online.

Originally posted by Hostkookster
Quite frankly I think I speak for most people in saying we don't care what provider you go with. It makes no difference to us. What matters is that we know the experience you've had with the company you chose when you have used them

good grief. someone talking sense on here ;) Wise words though from Hostkookster :agree:

Cranky : I currently have a server with UCG (I got the 2nd or 3rd one in fact so I've had it for 7 weeks)

Uptime seems to be OK so far, and speeds are fine too. Only problem I've had so far was someone else using my IP by mistake :bawling:

Too early to recommend for a hosting biz to be honest.

OK, NOTE:

1.544 MegaBIT/sec ... note a bit is NOT a byte

1.544 * 60 sec = 92.64 megabits per minute.
92.64 * 60 min = 5558.4 megabits per hour.
5558.4 * 24 hours = 133401.6 megabits per day.
133401.6 * 30 days = 4002048 megabits per month.

4002048 / 8 (8 bits to a byte) = 500256 megabytes per month.
500256 / 1024 (1024 megabytes to a gigabyte) = 488.53125 gigabytes per month.

NOW ... 488 GB / month is a MAX, that means that you use the ENTIRE connection for an entire month, and of course, no downtime.

OK, so, that, of course will never happen, even if you have 100% usage of the line at one point, you will barely have any traffic at 2 or 3 AM.

Also, datacenters charge for total bandwidth used ... not the possible max. So if you use 50 gigabytes in a month at a datacenter, you pay for that 50 gigabytes, if you use 500 gigabytes, you pay for that. The datacenters allow you to transfer as much as you want, i.e. you could be using a 10 MB line (instead of a 1.5 MB line like a T1), for as long as you need, and you pay for what you use, not your potential.

Also, never expect to get 100% of the speed of a T1, expect about 85% to 95%.

Hope this clears things up.

Originally posted by godsmoke
OK, NOTE:

1.544 MegaBIT/sec ... note a bit is NOT a byte

1.544 * 60 sec = 92.64 megabits per minute.
92.64 * 60 min = 5558.4 megabits per hour.
5558.4 * 24 hours = 133401.6 megabits per day.
133401.6 * 30 days = 4002048 megabits per month.

4002048 / 8 (8 bits to a byte) = 500256 megabytes per month.
500256 / 1024 (1024 megabytes to a gigabyte) = 488.53125 gigabytes per month.

NOW ... 488 GB / month is a MAX, that means that you use the ENTIRE connection for an entire month, and of course, no downtime.

OK, so, that, of course will never happen, even if you have 100% usage of the line at one point, you will barely have any traffic at 2 or 3 AM.

Also, datacenters charge for total bandwidth used ... not the possible max. So if you use 50 gigabytes in a month at a datacenter, you pay for that 50 gigabytes, if you use 500 gigabytes, you pay for that. The datacenters allow you to transfer as much as you want, i.e. you could be using a 10 MB line (instead of a 1.5 MB line like a T1), for as long as you need, and you pay for what you use, not your potential.

Also, never expect to get 100% of the speed of a T1, expect about 85% to 95%.

Hope this clears things up.

Oops, forgot about the b vs B. Thx for correcting me without making me look too stupid... :D

Originally posted by skelley1
Oops, forgot about the b vs B. Thx for correcting me without making me look too stupid... :D

No problem :)

I don't know about some of you but I know sometimes I burst the 1.5mbit/s up to like 2-3MB/s (megabytes). Anyone at Rackforce ever notice this?

I'm not sure what you are talking about ... I don't think you have a T1 at Rackforce. If they say you have 1.544 mbps of bandwidth per month, that means that you get to use around 488 GB a month, it has nothing to do with the speeds you get at any particular time. What I believe you are talking about is that you have a colocation with burstable bandwidth (as is standard.) a T1 line (1.544 mbps) is capable of approx. 160 KBps download. If you are getting 2 to 3 megabytes per second, then you are optimising their burstable bandwidth service.

Colos tend to measure the line in average used, so if you used 1.544 mbps for 12 hours a day, and 0 mbps for the other 12, every day, they would charge you for a 772 kbps line.

From what I know RackForce connects you to their 100 megabit network but throttles your available bandwidth down to 1.5 megabits / sec at the router. It's essentially the same as having a dedicated T-1 connected to your server. I've never been able to burst above 1.5 though. They claim that the connection is "un-metered" meaning that you can utilize a sustained 1.5 mbit/sec but I'm not sure how they would react if you did though. Regardless, the connection speed to my server at RackForce even without much load is terrible from any ISP.. ..

I'm not using colo - i'm on a dedicated with the T1 package. I should know I pay the bill...;)

There is nothing stated in the TOS (i've gone over it with a microscope) that says they will disconnect you for using it full all month. If they ever did anything because of that, it would be grounds for legal action. I haven't heard (at least on WHT) if this has ever happened. The ave. connection speed I receive is about 140kB/s. But sometimes I do experience brief burstability.