View Full Version : Price of IP's
KellyK 10-30-2002, 05:46 PM Hello,
I have been host for a month with www.inetbridge.net. Don't me get wrong, there service is great, website is never down and don't never wait longer than 6 hours for response. BUT, when I ask for the price for IP I am told that there cost was $5 extra per month.
I don't understand why everyone here offer IP's for a buck each. Is there not control on the price of IP's? I want it as I want to use my SSL certificate without need to upgrade from yearly plan. My friend at work say you need your own IP for own SSL.
zerphyte 10-30-2002, 05:55 PM They just want quite a bit of profit on their IPs.
I think for the host, there is:
1. A annual membership fee of $500.00
2. Plus a purchase of the smallest allocation of IPs, which I believe is $2 250 / year.
I don't blame the host for charging, in fact I think its great, and it shows they have there bases covered.
UmBillyCord 10-30-2002, 06:00 PM I don't understand why everyone here offer IP's for a buck each. Is there not control on the price of IP's? I want it as I want to use my SSL certificate without need to upgrade from yearly plan. My friend at work say you need your own IP for own SSL.
1) They could be a reseller who is getting charged a lot for that IP.
2) They could just be using the price to deter people from requesting them and pushing to keep a name-based account. IPs are getting harder to get for IPv4. Charging for IPs will make sure peole carefully allocate IPs.
With that being said, $5.00 seems high. Contact them and ask them for a break. Tell them it is for SSL and not just because you want one. :)
STX-Hosting 10-30-2002, 06:11 PM it could also be the fact that they may have to pay a setup fee on every IP they order.
Or when they order IP's they have to order them in blocks.
ADEhost 10-30-2002, 06:56 PM I pay alot for my IP's so I pass them at cost to my clients.
don't forget there is a huge fee from ARIN for your ip's.
dbbrock1 10-30-2002, 08:27 PM I get my ips for about $.50/month each :)
There is a large fee but you also get a large number of IP's. It costs less than $1 per year for IP's from ARIN. Charging $1 a month is quite a nice profit center. Charging $5 a month is damn near highway robbery.
Jay Suds 10-30-2002, 09:14 PM $5/mo is very steep, especially when you have a justifyable need (your SSL cert) that requires a dedicated IP address. IMHO, if the customer has a truely justifyable need for the IP address, the customer should be given the IP address for free, or [should only have to pay] the actual cost of the IP.
Also, while ARIN is pretty expensive, but you also have to consider that the smallest block ARIN will allocate is a /19, which is about 8100 IPs. The overall cost per IP address is very low.
m0nkeyhost 10-30-2002, 09:16 PM Interland/Dialtone both give their IP's for free now on Dedicateds. Some advantage for being so large is you can do some things like that since they recoup their costs elsewhere.
UmBillyCord 10-30-2002, 10:17 PM Also, while ARIN is pretty expensive, but you also have to consider that the smallest block ARIN will allocate is a /19, which is about 8100 IPs. The overall cost per IP address is very low.
I thought is was a /20 or 16 Class Cs (4096 IPs) for $2500/yr.
Jay Suds 10-30-2002, 10:25 PM Originally posted by UmBillyCord
I thought is was a /20 or 16 Class Cs (4096 IPs) for $2500/yr.
Doh! It does look like ARIN will assign a /20. I think the price is the same though for a /19 (the ARIN fee schedule page is a little confusing ...)
http://www.arin.net/registration/fee_schedule.html is the URL for anyone interested.
KDAWebServices 10-31-2002, 05:58 AM We get our IPs cheap/free but we still charge a hefty setup fee for virtual hosting, unless the client has a justifiable need and th eonly one that cuts it with us, is SSL. For dedicated/colo the client has to meet RIPE guidelines on IP allocation, the same as we do now.
Netbridge 11-01-2002, 11:22 PM Must be getting old to have missed this one. I am co-located and that is the price I pay per IP over and above my first 5 free ones that I got from the NOC. That is my cost price as hard as it is to swollow.
Sorry UmBillyCord I am not a reseller bud. :D
palmtree 11-02-2002, 12:07 AM Also, just a thought.. A lot of upstream providers include IP's into their leased lines so you are able to get IP's from them to use and then negotiate prices with them... this enables you as a colocator to not pay as many fees to Arin...
NodeHost 11-02-2002, 12:42 AM Some upstreams (premium) they are free. We just looked into a local company here that provides $299/mo T1's with loop included, but thier IP's were $1,079 per Class C.....
Sprint on the other hand it is free for the IP's.
Something else to consider into all of this, you may get the IP's free, but do not forget the router and the resources that they use to hold and route the IP's. RAM for a Cisco router is not cheap at all, and with 2 class C's, you are needing 32MB at least to make sure your router does not slow your network down at all....
Kaumil 11-02-2002, 03:51 AM IP's are usually free of charge from Datacenters.
ADEhost 11-02-2002, 04:26 AM Originally posted by NodeHost
Some upstreams (premium) they are free. We just looked into a local company here that provides $299/mo T1's with loop included, but thier IP's were $1,079 per Class C.....
Sprint on the other hand it is free for the IP's.
Something else to consider into all of this, you may get the IP's free, but do not forget the router and the resources that they use to hold and route the IP's. RAM for a Cisco router is not cheap at all, and with 2 class C's, you are needing 32MB at least to make sure your router does not slow your network down at all....
excelent point
the router ram is an expensive piece
Mike
palmtree 11-02-2002, 06:04 AM Having 2 class C's of IP's doesn't mean you need more router memory at all.. If you think that, you need to pick up a networking/cisco book..
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