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View Full Version : registrars that bill
saint rob 10-30-2002, 03:17 PM Hello everyone,
I'm currently looking for a new registrar because we're going to expire after a while, but the company I work for doesn't like to pay for these types of services with a credit card. Do any of you know of a good registrar that will invoice their customers? :eek:
FalGra 10-30-2002, 03:47 PM Honestly I wouldn't get that type of service with out a recurring credit card payment. Because, if you are late, you may or may not have a website for a little while. Depending on how they are with their service.
saint rob 10-30-2002, 04:08 PM that's just the way they are.
GordonH 10-30-2002, 06:08 PM Well
Here is a story
Ford HQ in Detroit contacted me last year about registering some names in country level domains.
Like all businesses they wanted an invoice.
I told them: no cash no domains.
Within one hour they had produced a company American Express purchasing card.
When we invoice a business for domain names we charge six times the normal retail price so we are covered when they don't pay.
It costs so much chasing up unpaid bills we have to penalise people who refuse to pay up front.
Gordon
Akash 10-30-2002, 06:40 PM When we invoice a business for domain names we charge six times the normal retail price so we are covered when they don't pay.
:eek: If you don't expect them to pay, what's the point of charging 6 times the normail price?
GordonH 10-31-2002, 03:45 AM Well:
Bisiness customers tend to finfd $15 too low a price when they are used to paying more.
With 70% of them requiring considerable chasing, the 30% who pay up on time cover the man hours required to leverage the money oiut of the bad payers.
Gordon
nameslave 10-31-2002, 08:02 AM I don't think you can find any REGISTRAR which bother with sending an invoice. Perhaps there are a couple of smaller ones (which WAS listed with the earlier SOTD reports); but then I won't say that they are GOOD enough to rank near the bottom.
I understand that many companies (it's the accounts department actually) ask for an invoice before paying anything; there are 2 options:
1. Go for a RESELLER which would send you an invoice, wait for your payment AND THEN register the name for you. But remember, few people would register a domain name for you WITHOUT cash commitment. And for those who would, you better think twice (unless you are an existing customer of theirs).
2. Go pay it yourself! It's just a few dollars and save you a lot of trouble.
Knogle 10-31-2002, 08:34 AM Originally posted by FalGra
Honestly I wouldn't get that type of service with out a recurring credit card payment. Because, if you are late, you may or may not have a website for a little while. Depending on how they are with their service.
That's exactly what happened to me, and now I have to wait for my domain to resolve again. They didnt even send me an email to NOTIFY me! So much for HR :angry:
thewitt 10-31-2002, 08:57 AM We do this with our larger corporate accounts, but we have to have a letter of credit on file for them, and if you are not a large company with a purchasing department and already know how to jump through the necessary hoops - it's not likely to happen.
You also must register at least 50 domains with us in order to qualify. We bill annually for these domains, regardless of when they expire, and then we renew them automatically on their renewal date.
It's an expensive practice, but if you do enough volume you can keep an "account manager" busy with this type of service. As GordonH said, chasing these guys down for late or no payment is a regular cost of this business. I'd much rather have 50 credit card purchases than one of these 50 domain customers on most days...
If you want to play in the corporate world however, you do need to understand how it works.
-t
Chicken 10-31-2002, 02:03 PM Originally posted by thewitt
If you want to play in the corporate world however, you do need to understand how it works.
This is how it works:
Originally posted by GordonH
Within one hour they had produced a company American Express purchasing card.
Corporations have cards, and it doesn't take much to get them to use it. You'll find very few that don't and if they don't then I'd question why before I send an invoice.
They charge a dinner to the card, they can charge a domain. Ask them to ask a restaurant to 'invoice them' for that 'business dinner' next time ;)
GordonH 10-31-2002, 02:48 PM They charge a dinner to the card
Hey, I am just back from doing that myself.
Thats the point really.
I worked for an organisaton which were really bad payers.
You virtually had to tkae them to court for even a small payment.
They actually had lots of cash and good cash flow.
Every year they would have to change their main network contractor (wiring etc) because they went bust.
In two cases it was because my employers bever paid them.
The invoicing culture really does nobody any good.
With regualr amount sit makes sense but for one off things like domain names,
cash/credit card is the best way.
We do domains payable by cheque from our Uk site and get quite a few company cheques in advance with eh printed out form.
I think they will play our way if they want to use us, if they don;t they will go elsewhere.
Gordon
kantlivelong 11-01-2002, 06:03 PM lol godaddy.com like i said in another post :')
saint rob 11-11-2002, 03:08 PM they used network solutions here since the beginning of their web presence. network solutions does invoice. they're afraid to use credit cards for online services due to the fact that internet companies sell out to eachother constantly and old records seem to up and become current records, so they were charged for services from companies they long ago cancelled. disputing can be a real pain.
allan 11-12-2002, 12:25 AM Its been a couple of years since we used them, so I don't know if this is still true, but Dotster used to bill. They go through the whole credit checking process, get your D&B etc and then set a credit limit.
saint rob 11-12-2002, 02:43 PM that was the first company I checked. unfortunately they no longer do business this way.
czwen 11-12-2002, 03:08 PM hmmmm ... i still invoice my clients.. mainly because we provide a whole package thing.. web development (u know, the domain, webhosting, and website design stuff) so we basically know our clients and is willing to take the risk. It's all about trust in doing business, isn't it so?
the normal procedure, we negotiate, plan, design, purchase what we need to purchase (domain, hosting plans) then we have them all up at the same time.. and BOOM the bill.
so far so good. my clients paid up! lol
errr maybe i know too much about their company?! :stickout:
Chicken 11-13-2002, 12:36 AM Originally posted by czwen
hmmmm ... i still invoice my clients.. mainly because we provide a whole package thing.. web development (u know, the domain, webhosting, and website design stuff)
Different bag of frogs there.
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