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View Full Version : where to colo in ny area?
goldboyd 04-15-2001, 08:50 PM I'm looking to colo a few boxes in the NY area...i need about half a rack and 1mb/s (although i expect to need 3mbs and a full rack by the end of the year) I'm in albany, but i expect the best colo places relatively close will be in nyc...really dont know who to be looking at. While money is a priority, reliability, redundancy, speed, and 24/7 physical access for me are more important. Any suggestions? thanks in advance
globix/exodus/vhosting all have noc's in nyc.
Mike the newbie 04-15-2001, 09:41 PM Originally posted by goldboyd
I'm looking to colo a few boxes in the NY area...i need about half a rack and 1mb/s (although i expect to need 3mbs and a full rack by the end of the year) I'm in albany, but i expect the best colo places relatively close will be in nyc...really dont know who to be looking at. While money is a priority, reliability, redundancy, speed, and 24/7 physical access for me are more important. Any suggestions? thanks in advance
Here's one in Albany. I know nothing about it besides what you and I read here: http://www.biznessonline.com/prodserv/hosting/colo-alb.shtml It may be worth the time to hoof it over and check them out...
biznessonline.com used to be called connix.com here in Connecticut, and they had a good reputation for their dialup service.
energy 04-15-2001, 09:52 PM http://www.pwebtech.com is in the NY area and allow physical access.
http://vdi.net are in NY area too, I do not know if they allow physical access.
BurstNET 04-15-2001, 10:06 PM <<Admin edit : post edited for breaching forum guidelines>>
BurstNET 04-15-2001, 10:12 PM Also, they are actually in the middle of extending the train down to Scranton from NYC. Scranton is to become another commuter city for NYC. Train is supposed to take less than an hour from NYC to Scranton.
Not sure what this has to do with travelling from Albany to Scranton, cause the train path would not be direct...but who knows in the future...
I'm sure some path the train could take would be faster than driving, regardles of detours.
Sean R.
BurstNET
voxel is in the albany area
Matt Lightner 04-15-2001, 11:20 PM We've had experience with pwebtech and VDI. Both are very professional and should be able to meet your needs.
Best Regards,
Matt Lightner
mlightner@site5.com
oh yeah, appliedtheory has a noc in albany i believe. their network is pretty good. also try above.net :)
jayglate 04-16-2001, 01:37 AM Post your email so hosts can contact you.
RotoHost 04-16-2001, 06:36 AM Originally posted by BurstNET
Also, they are actually in the middle of extending the train down to Scranton from NYC. Scranton is to become another commuter city for NYC. Train is supposed to take less than an hour from NYC to Scranton.
Hi,
I know this is WAY OT, but.... :D
Scranton to N.Y.C., or Hoboken, will take a lot closer to 2 hours. Not less than an hour. And, it will be years before this even is up & running. Much of the track on the NJ side of the Delaware River was torn up in western NJ.
BurstNET 04-16-2001, 12:33 PM I can drive from Scranton to NYC in two hours...no way the new train will take that long.
The train is only going to take one hour. They are building a super high speed train that can get you from NYC to Scranton in 1 hour or less. It was all over the news a while back. They want to make Scranton a commuter city for NYC workers.
Sean R.
BurstNET
surlink.net - never used them, but heard some good things.
RotoHost 04-16-2001, 08:48 PM Originally posted by BurstNET
I can drive from Scranton to NYC in two hours...no way the new train will take that long.
The train is only going to take one hour. They are building a super high speed train that can get you from NYC to Scranton in 1 hour or less. It was all over the news a while back. They want to make Scranton a commuter city for NYC workers.
Sean R.
BurstNET
Keep in mind, that it is usually the case when dealing with a commuter railroad schedule, it takes less time to drive than it does to take the train, The trip from Dover, NJ to Hoboken currently takes an hour and 5 minutes (I can drive from Dover to Hoboken in 50 minutes). That is less than a third of the length from Hoboken to Scranton. There is NO WAY they will be able to put "high-speed" trains on the Jersey side of the river (east of Dover, anyway). These tracks have a few 35 mph curves, a few 45 mph curves and a whole slew of 60mph curves, and have numerous grade crossings. There also may resistance to 125mph trains running through the center of towns. ;)
The politicians are getting everyone pumped up about the service. Fact is, most of the track from Port Morris, NJ to the Delaware river was torn up 20 years ago. This will need to be replaced. NJ Transit will run the railroad with their current consist of GP-40 diesels that are limited to 80mph with the present signal system in place.
No matter what you saw on T.V., it will be closer to 2 hours than it is to an hour. ;) Check the current schedules on www.nj.com/transit . You may be surprised at how long the train actually takes when compared to driving (38 rail miles). Now, just imagine how long it will be all the way to Scranton. :)
RotoHost 04-16-2001, 09:47 PM Mods: If I've taken this way too far off-topic, let me know :stickout
nopzor 04-16-2001, 10:45 PM Hi GoldBoyd,
As teck so graciously pointed out, our corporate offices are in the Albany area. (in downtown Troy actually). Our facilites are at Abovenet (in NYC and SJC) (we just moved from their NY1 facility to their NY2 facility).
I won't advertise here, so contact me if you want more info.
Cheers,
Raj Dutt
Voxel dot Net, Inc.
Originally posted by RotoHost
Keep in mind, that it is usually the case when dealing with a commuter railroad schedule, it takes less time to drive than it does to take the trainYup, I'd confirm that specifically with the east coast anyway. I used to travel to Philadelphia from NYC for work regularly, and I'd drive if I was staying two or three days but take the train if it was down and back the same day. Considering you're doing 65 or 70 or more much of the way (or maybe I should say I am, anyway) and the train is doing 45 to 55 at best -- and making occasional stops -- by car was almost always quicker than by train.
BurstNET 04-17-2001, 01:10 AM The new train coming to Scranton is some kind of Super Train...it is not the normal train.
It does over 100mph...and will make it in less than an hour.
It is the first of its kind in the US..or something that affect.
I have to find an article on it, then I will post the details.
Sean R.
BurstNET
nopzor 04-17-2001, 01:12 AM Sean,
I think you're referring to Accelia(sic).
Their ad campaign's slogan is 'return your mind to the upright position'.
it does like 130mph. it's awesome, unfortunately, i think it's at least 2 years away from being available in scranton and probably about the same from being available from upstate.
Cheers,
Raj Dutt
Voxel dot Net, Inc.
Originally posted by BurstNET
The new train coming to Scranton is some kind of Super Train...it is not the normal train.
It does over 100mph...and will make it in less than an hour.
It is the first of its kind in the US..or something that affect.
I have to find an article on it, then I will post the details.
Sean R.
BurstNET
http://www.acela.com
It's operating on some routes, but significant improvements to tracks will be needed to get it off the main Amtrak line it's operating on between Boston and DC. I guess Scranton would be on Amtrak's "Keystone Corridor" which is one of the areas where Amtrak is exploring cooperating with various states to finance upgrades to allow Acela service.
In any case, Acela tops at just over 100 mph, since we won't see in the US the complete new rail systems needed to go faster than that. NY to Philly on Acela is just over an hour (see the schedule, 9 am to 10:07), so Scranton would be more.
Regular Amtrak service from NYC to Philadelphia, by the way, takes about an hour and 20 minutes.
Sorry for the topic drift, this got interesting.
dektong 04-17-2001, 03:20 AM Originally posted by teck
voxel is in the albany area
Dang... I can't delete this post!
OK I was trying to correct on voxel's data center at abovenet NYC. But raj has clarified that.
cheers,
:beer:
RotoHost 04-17-2001, 09:53 AM Originally posted by JayC
http://www.acela.com
It's operating on some routes, but significant improvements to tracks will be needed to get it off the main Amtrak line it's operating on between Boston and DC
Correct...
In addition, how many grade crossings are there on the Northeast Corridor between Boston & D.C.? :) On the NJ side of the Delaware there are at least 10 on N.J. Transit's Morristown & Erie branch (which the Scranton run will use). Also, if you want to go directly into N.Y.C. it will require a transfer of trains somewhere along the route, because NJ Transit does not have overhead catenary wire (Acela uses overhead catenary) west of Dover, NJ, and diesel locomotives are not permitted in the Hudson River tunnels.
No amount of money will get the Acela trains operating at full speed on the "M&E" due to the track configuration and curvature. They can't be straightened out either because of development right up to the right-of-way.
The politicians are blowing smoke (pardon the pun). But then again, politicians wouldn't do that, would they? ;)
Personally, I'd love to see train service up to Scranton. It's an old railroading town that deserves have service into N.Y.C. (however long it would take). We will even see it someday. Just don't hold your breath for "Super-Trains".
Webhosting and Trains......this is interesting:D
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