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Andy252
10-29-2002, 06:22 PM
Linux Control Panels:
Cpanel
H-Sphere
Plesk
Ensim

Windows Control Panels:
Ensim
Webhosting Controller


Other than the ones listed above, and there any other public server control panels ?

MaB
10-29-2002, 06:50 PM
Free ones: Simplecp, webcp and webmin (more of a server interface)

Andy252
10-29-2002, 08:54 PM
How much you rekon it would cost to pay to have plesk made ?

AutomateHost
10-29-2002, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Andy252
How much you rekon it would cost to pay to have plesk made ?

Err, from scratch? Probably six figures -- and that's just for development. Add in everything else and it'll probably top seven figures.

Neo3Net
10-29-2002, 09:58 PM
7 Figures is quite extreme don't you think?

AutomateHost
10-29-2002, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by Neo3Net
7 Figures is quite extreme don't you think?

Well, I suppose. That's counting marketing and all of that nice stuff. That's if you wanted to build a war chest to topple Plesk :D

If you just wanted a really good control panel just like Plesk, you might be able to get it as low as the $50,000 range if you shop around. You really have to balance quantity and quality. Obviously, the larger your budget, the more options you have in terms of how complex you can get.

Neo3Net
10-29-2002, 11:09 PM
Have you used plesk? It is so limited and so feature-less.

Plesk could be programmed for 20,000 or even 15,000

Plesk is a very basic program.

RH4U
10-29-2002, 11:27 PM
I would say around 30-40k american programmers, if you got oversea's programmers maybe from 14k -25k...

AutomateHost
10-29-2002, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Neo3Net
Have you used plesk? It is so limited and so feature-less.

Plesk could be programmed for 20,000 or even 15,000

Plesk is a very basic program.

I must be thinking about something else :D

I suppose you are right, it's not so big afterall.

Andy252
10-30-2002, 04:18 PM
LOL your all mad. I could get a basic version written for a few K and thats almost Plesk in itself.

Neo3Net
10-30-2002, 04:29 PM
I don't know where you are but in the USA programmers cost a bit.

However, Plesk could be programmed for only 5,000 or less if you found the right person.

Keep in mind testing as well as other things :)

Thanks

smidwap
10-30-2002, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Neo3Net
However, Plesk could be programmed for only 5,000 or less if you found the right person.

"the right person"? Hehe, I'm sure it takes more than one developer to develop such a control panel. Saying that, I would think it would be a bit above $5,000 USD.

AutomateHost
10-30-2002, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Neo3Net
I don't know where you are but in the USA programmers cost a bit.

However, Plesk could be programmed for only 5,000 or less if you found the right person.

Keep in mind testing as well as other things :)

Thanks

Well, it all really depends on what you're looking for :)

Some firms charge upwards of $5,000 just to familiarize themselves with your industry (if they're a general development firm with no specialty or industry affiliations.) Then there's the cost of meeting with the actual development team and/or representatives from the firm and developing the plan. Post-development costs can amass quite easily from marketing to maintenance (updates, literature, etc.)

Developing any application or product of value on a marketable enteprise level takes considerable time, effort, planning and capital.

And don't, for one second, believe something like this can be done in a few weeks (as some might say) or for "minimal" costs.

Hope this helps :D

Neo3Net
10-30-2002, 06:56 PM
By person I meant company. If you take us for instance we have 2 project managers and 5 programmers working on NeoPanel.

I am not going to release pricing but like I said programming is not cheap. And if you can get plesk programmed for a few thousand then go ahead and do it :)

Thanks

AutomateHost
10-30-2002, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Neo3Net
By person I meant company. If you take us for instance we have 2 project managers and 5 programmers working on NeoPanel.

I am not going to release pricing but like I said programming is not cheap. And if you can get plesk programmed for a few thousand then go ahead and do it :)

Thanks

I couldn't agree more. A few thousand for something like Plesk sounds like a sweet deal :D

rusko
10-30-2002, 09:58 PM
neo,

ive looked at neopanel features (too bad i cant get a demo since we wont be purchasing in bulk) and it seems to have waaay more features than plesk. really, a control panel isnt that big of a deal. the biggest piece is writing/adapting an httpd with ssl. the rest - you just need to be familiar with the ins and outs of configs for various stuff (i wish all configs were xml ;).

i actually quoted someone just over $3k to code a gameserver host control panel.

Neo3Net
10-30-2002, 10:18 PM
Sorry that we have limited demo's however, the retail final version will be out before the end of 2002.

Thanks

RH4U
10-31-2002, 08:55 AM
Im not sure how you could find a programmer to program plesk for 5k, but ive never used it either.. I know that the control panel we are currently working on development with has ran well over 5k,, doubled, and even more than tripled that amount easily and we are not finished.. .. Though it has many more features than plesk, and could be mostly compared to cpanel, but lacks some features and has some cpanel doesnt and vice versa.

AIGC
10-31-2002, 09:19 PM
7 or even 6 figures for a Control Panels is definately much! We (AIGC) made our own control panel within less than a month! We'd make one for you for a fair 4 or 5 digit number depending on what you want.. :)

MaB
10-31-2002, 09:20 PM
Under a month? with a full list of features? most importantly: bug free? no way

AutomateHost
10-31-2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by AIGC
7 or even 6 figures for a Control Panels is definately much! We (AIGC) made our own control panel within less than a month! We'd make one for you for a fair 4 or 5 digit number depending on what you want.. :)

That's pretty much impossible unless you were Microsoft with a team of about 2,000 programmers -- and that's not counting the entire planning stage.

Would you care to provide some specs on the control panel you're talking about?

:D

RH4U
10-31-2002, 09:51 PM
Team of 6 professional programmers, totaling 22k already, on the 4th month and due to release in January(THATS BETA)....

You want one month with 4 figure's? I would have to say unless your paying yourself to do it or someone that owes you a huge favor you can forget it...

What programmer has the skills to do this in a month with descent results? And for a 4 figure price tag? Send them to me i have plenty of work for them:)

Neo3Net
10-31-2002, 11:20 PM
Wow one month is a bit much? Is it a modified version of WebCP or something?