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u4t2t
10-29-2002, 04:56 AM
http://www.servicewrap.net/

skelley1
10-29-2002, 05:08 AM
Never heard of them, but in my personal opinion, their whois and their lack of any substantial credible referrals easily found on the internet points to caveat emptor.

For a SEO, they're not exactly well-found.

HighLineHost
10-29-2002, 08:15 AM
I 2nd that, spending 200$ right away and not knowing them is hard... :(.

hostrack
10-29-2002, 01:21 PM
:cool: servicewrap.net

Anyone ever what to find out how popular some site is just do this:

Go to google.com and put in the search field this:

list: servicewrap.net

I show 9 links to this site.

Try it yourself., there is even a link on talkporn.com :eek:

skelley1
10-29-2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by hostrack
:cool: servicewrap.net

Anyone ever what to find out how popular some site is just do this:

Go to google.com and put in the search field this:

list: servicewrap.net

I show 9 links to this site.

Try it yourself., there is even a link on talkporn.com :eek:

Hey, I learned something today. Great post.

JayC
10-29-2002, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by hostrack
list: servicewrap.net

I show 9 links to this site. Brian, I think the query command you mean is "link," not "list." For example: querying link:http://www.servicewrap.net at Google will show all of the sites linking to servicewrap, the one you had above is just a search for the terms "list" and "servicewrap.net" -- as it happened, though, it made the same point!

Just a tip for u4t2t or anyone else thinking about SEO... this is how "xx guaranteed top xx positions on xx search engines" works: first, they choose a few dozen search terms; say 50 phrases. Now, your instinct is the more the better, right? But keep in mind that the more terms they choose the more chance there is to meet the "guarantee!"

For example, say they'll look at 25 search engines. That ignores the fact that there are only about a third of that that really matter, so they're getting to some pretty minor players. Then, say they give themselves 5 months to meet the guarantee.

So, 50 terms on 25 search engines reported each five times. A total of 6,250 attempts to get you the perhaps 20 that they guarantee will be "top 10." Not bad odds, huh?

So why should you care? As long as you get those top tens, you'll get traffic right? Well, maybe not. Remember, they are choosing the terms... and among those 50 there are carefully chosen noncompetitive terms, chosen just because there's not much competition for them.

Without a doubt, a key element of best practices in SEO is identifying and targetting niche search terms that can be exploited and turned into traffic. But that narrow targetting of niche terms should be part of a traffic-building strategy including elements that will result not in rankings, not in junk traffic, but in conversions. If your vendor's goal is to get just rankings, they really don't care if anyone ever visits your site, let alone if they ever buy something once they get there.

You know how web hosts get up in arms about companies marketing "unlimited?" That's how SEO firms engaged in furthering the industry's "best practices" feel about "guaranteed rankings." So, please excuse my rant. :)

By the way, you'll find in a well-optimized site that the title tag -- arguably the most important on-page element to good positioning -- on each page will be different, and targetted to that page's keywords. Now, look again at the site in question.

eldar
11-23-2002, 11:15 PM
I actually tried them...the most expensive package.

They weren't able to get me the results I wanted in the time period they stated, but because of this, they did give me a full refund!!!

I was very impressed with every aspect of them (except that my luck wasn't so good). I would highly recommend them to anyone!

I've decided that everyone markets more than is easily attainable, but they really know what they are doing, and more importantly they are a company of their word.

CDHost
11-23-2002, 11:25 PM
From their site:Top 10 ranking in Google, Yahoo, MSN and AOL - GuaranteedThat is not possible. Anyone who "guarantees" ranking is just taking a guess. You can study search engines and try everything in the book but unless you fill their greedy pockets there are no "guarantees" of anything.

Veritas
11-27-2002, 12:37 PM
Well, sort of...the guarantee is that they will get you there, or give you back your money. So (in my case at least) they kep the the guarantee...

I agree that you can't say that without a doubt you can get someone in the top 10, but they do ahve some good people that work hard at it, and then if they can't they make good on the guarantee...

skelley1
11-27-2002, 12:41 PM
Anyone can certainly guarantee rankings, as well as anything else. Just depends on what they will do if they don't deliver. A guarantee isn't the same thing as saying, "it has a 100% chance of happening." It's just a kind of insurance in case it doesn't happen.