Hi,

Is IP required for every domain hosted at a raq?

There's a link at rackshack.net and it's link to a demo CP at demo.cobalt.com ... something.

I tried to add a domain and it told me ip required. But from what I have heard here, you can have multiple domains with only one IP. Would someone clarify this for me?

I am considering to get a raq. Any help would be appreciated very much.

ebird

You can use the same IP for multiple sites.

It is true that you can use the same IP for all the hosting accounts. However, it is recommended that you don't use the IP of your server for your hosting accounts. If you sign up with Rackshack you get 8 IP's free. You will get one when you sign up, and than you have to ask for additional ones. Ask for at least one more on which you can put your hosting accounts. Than, if you want to run your own DNS, you will need two more.

You can use multiple sites on one ip, however, it might cause some speed problem with the accounts if you are adding many and they have high traffic.

Originally posted by shone
However, it is recommended that you don't use the IP of your server for your hosting accounts.

Who told you this? I have multiple RaQ3's for my hosting business and I've never had a problem with using the same IP as the main server.

Thanks,
Brandon

Originally posted by Donovan
You can use multiple sites on one ip, however, it might cause some speed problem with the accounts if you are adding many and they have high traffic.

Not true. The only thing that will effect your speed is the connection to which your server is connected to the internet. And of course hardware issues, but the only real disadvantages of doing name based hosting is:
- SSL requires a dedicated IP (I just give sites a dedicated IP if they request SSL)
- Same thing goes for Anonymous FTP
- Others also claim that having a dedicated IP address allows them to few the site before the domain has propegated (I've just added a symlink from the /web to a remote URL such as http://servername.webxonline.com/domain so that they can view it early.

Thanks,
Brandon

Brandon,

If somebody try's to spam through your SMTP the ISP will block that IP address. If you are doing name based hosting, and using the same IP for both server and all of the hosting acc. your whole server will be blocked. That's why you should use different IP for hosting acc. than the server IP.

Thanx,

Nash

Someone told me what I said before... hmmmm ... That's good :) if it's real ...

Originally posted by shone
Brandon,

If somebody try's to spam through your SMTP the ISP will block that IP address. If you are doing name based hosting, and using the same IP for both server and all of the hosting acc. your whole server will be blocked. That's why you should use different IP for hosting acc. than the server IP.

Thanx,

Nash

That's the worst reasoning for IP based that I've heard in a long time. Usually when someone trys to spam through your SMTP (which they wouldn't be able to unless they had a pop account on the server, and I could just trace it down and beat them with a stick ::joking::), the ISP would usually inform you..not just block you.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but regardless of what the IP of the domain is, all outgoing mail is going to have the main server IP.

Thanks,
Brandon ;)

Hi,

Thanks for all the replies.

It seems there are two ways for domain hosting:
name based and ip based.

IP based is easy to understand: assign an IP to every domain.

for the name base: domain-a.com and domain-b.com both use the same IP. How could visitors see difference sites? Is there a way to direct the domains to different directories on your machine? If they use ftp and ftp to the same IP, what they will get?

I am not familiar with the dns settings, so these questions may seem not clear. I just want to know it before I get the RAQ.

Thanks.

ebird

Originally posted by ebird
It seems there are two ways for domain hosting:
name based and ip based.

Correct.

IP based is easy to understand: assign an IP to every domain.

for the name base: domain-a.com and domain-b.com both use the same IP. How could visitors see difference sites? Is there a way to direct the domains to different directories on your machine? If they use ftp and ftp to the same IP, what they will get?

Ebird, basically the two ways are very similar and you do the same thing for both...

IP based: Set up domain in DNS with domain.com pointing to dedicated IP, and A record for 'www' pointing to dedicated IP address. On server, set up hostname as 'www' and domain.com on that same dedicated IP.

For name based, you either use the server's IP or pick another IP (it doesn't all that much matter), and set up the DNS for the site on that IP. You then set up the site on the server, on that IP. The server directs things based upon the name (hence, name based hosting).

This doesn't affect FTP, as your users will be FTP'ing in via a user name and password. They could use the server IP address, the server name, their site, their IP, or another site/IP for all it matters, as the hostname and they will end up in the correct place (based upon what their user name is).

Thanks, Chicken, for the detailed reply.

Good day. (I should say "good realy morning")

ebird