Davey's at it again:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/553615.asp?0nm=T22E

PogoLinux involved in this too. Hmmm...

Wow...that's all I can say....wow.

That's bad press for the industry as a whole. :(

Saw that, heh heh heh... maybe some attention on a grand scale would be good for this whole mess.

*prepares cold, dark cell for the guilty*

I don't mean this as an insult again Pogo, and I realize that things you read on MSNBC are suspect :), but this quote seems pretty damning:


Domain name services for Pogolinux.com were provided by ViaNet Inc. until Tuesday morning, but according to a spokesperson for ViaNet, PogoLinux DNS services were actually shut off Tuesday morning due to lack of payment.


If they are having problems with their provider, that may explain why Racklocation customers are having a hard time getting their servers moved.

It does go on to say something about a change they were making, however this usually doesn't have much to do with payment, and I found that interesting as well.

I haven't looked into the host in question, but is this really our long lost pal Davey/Peter/etc.? And, I wouldn't put too much faith in anything MSNBC says, anymore than I would about Web Host Mag...

Indeed it is Tim, verifiable by a little search on 'ExpertHosting'.

Originally posted by BC
Indeed it is Tim, verifiable by a little search on 'ExpertHosting'.

Geez, I can't believe that kid is still pulling this ****... How long has it been? How does he continue this? Why isn't he in jail? I think I just really didn't want to check, because I knew how pissed off I'd be thinking about this creep STILL pulling this and getting away with it!! Damn it! Well, something is going to have to be done... although it'll be amusing to see where these fake lawyers he's been threatening everyone with for this entire time, will come from. Do you think addr.com believes he is serious, anymore than the other 1,000 people he's said he'll sue? Geez...

Thought you all might be interested in this email I just received. Here is an excerpt:


Dear Addr.com customer,

Due to the unfortunate events that have occured during the past week, we are unable to continue operations at Addr.com. You have previously been advised that a hacker obtained a partial database of client information, including credit card details. Addr has been working closely with Visa and Mastercard and has given its full co-operation to assist them in minimizing consumer fraud as a result of this incident.

However, our merchant bank has decided not to continue to allow Addr to accept credit card payments from Visa and Mastercard customers in the future, and to freeze all recent payments made within the last 30 days by clients. Our management team have been working around the clock to try and secure a resolution to this situation but unfortunately we have been unsuccessful.

The freezing of a large amount of working capital and the bank's decision not to allow us to accept future payments has resulted in our inability to maintain service to our clients beyond this week. This decision has taken the financial future of Addr out of our hands.

All servers will be turned off by our provider between Saturday 14th April and Monday 16th April.


I don't know much about email headers, so I can't tell if it is real or not. Sure has me worried though.

Guess I find out this weekend.

Bet davey got the name Jessie from Home & Away .... Crap show may i add :)

Originally posted by EL84

I don't know much about email headers, so I can't tell if it is real or not. Sure has me worried though.


That really sucks :-(

Originally posted by EL84
Thought you all might be interested in this email I just received. Here is an excerpt:


Dear Addr.com customer,

Due to the unfortunate events that have occured during the past week, we are unable to continue operations at Addr.com. You have previously been advised that a hacker obtained a partial database of client information, including credit card details. Addr has been working closely with Visa and Mastercard and has given its full co-operation to assist them in minimizing consumer fraud as a result of this incident.

However, our merchant bank has decided not to continue to allow Addr to accept credit card payments from Visa and Mastercard customers in the future, and to freeze all recent payments made within the last 30 days by clients. Our management team have been working around the clock to try and secure a resolution to this situation but unfortunately we have been unsuccessful.

The freezing of a large amount of working capital and the bank's decision not to allow us to accept future payments has resulted in our inability to maintain service to our clients beyond this week. This decision has taken the financial future of Addr out of our hands.

All servers will be turned off by our provider between Saturday 14th April and Monday 16th April.


I don't know much about email headers, so I can't tell if it is real or not. Sure has me worried though.

Guess I find out this weekend.



If you want to copy *all* the headers (all of the mumbo-jumbo details) and send it to me (use the Mail icon below my post) I'll have a look at it....

Nothing as yet on their site ;)

Originally posted by EL84
Thought you all might be interested in this email I just received. Here is an excerpt:


Dear Addr.com customer,

Due to the unfortunate events that have occured during the past week, we are unable to continue operations at Addr.com. You have previously been advised that a hacker obtained a partial database of client information, including credit card details. Addr has been working closely with Visa and Mastercard and has given its full co-operation to assist them in minimizing consumer fraud as a result of this incident.

However, our merchant bank has decided not to continue to allow Addr to accept credit card payments from Visa and Mastercard customers in the future, and to freeze all recent payments made within the last 30 days by clients. Our management team have been working around the clock to try and secure a resolution to this situation but unfortunately we have been unsuccessful.

The freezing of a large amount of working capital and the bank's decision not to allow us to accept future payments has resulted in our inability to maintain service to our clients beyond this week. This decision has taken the financial future of Addr out of our hands.

All servers will be turned off by our provider between Saturday 14th April and Monday 16th April.


I don't know much about email headers, so I can't tell if it is real or not. Sure has me worried though.

Guess I find out this weekend.



I don't have to see the headers of that email, to know it's complete ********. That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in at least a week (believe me, I hear some pretty ridiculous things throughout the week too!) There is no reason why they wouldn't be allowed to accept credit card payments, that doesn't even make any sense. Further, they'd not close down so quickly. I can't believe someone even tried to pull that. Forward that email to addr.com's abuse department -- looks like our friend Peter/Davey is getting himself into some serious libel and fraud here, and he thinks Addr is going to allow this or act like some of the other smaller hosts he's tried to intimidate and failed? This is going to be a very amusing situation.

PS: Hey, EL84, I was thinking "tubes" when I saw your handle. Groove Tubes, or Sovtek's, or? :-)

[Edited by Tim_Greer on 04-13-2001 at 06:57 AM]

All servers will be turned off by our provider between Saturday 14th April and Monday 16th April.
My unofficial semantic analysis: That's definitely the "Brit" way of saying the date. Very few in the US would say "14th April", rather we say simply "April 14th". However, putting the date in front of the month *is* the European way of writing it. In the US the date would be 4/14/01, in the UK it would likely be written 14/4/01. I assume ADDR is a US company (WHOIS says San Jose, CA), while we know for a fact that our friend Davey is from the other side of the Big Pond.

Looks *very* fishy to me. Not enough evidence for a conviction though. But there is no mention of this on thier site and their ordering system is up. Hmm...

Also, I posted in a thread a few weeks back about how Davey was spamming the WHOIS database from Register.com. All I can say is these are extremely desperate measures to get clients by fraud and deception and cannot in the long run work out. Unfortunately in the short run he might actually dupe a few people...

Originally posted by shpilkus
All servers will be turned off by our provider between Saturday 14th April and Monday 16th April.
My unofficial semantic analysis: That's definitely the "Brit" way of saying the date. Very few in the US would say "14th April", rather we say simply "April 14th". However, putting the date in front of the month *is* the European way of writing it. In the US the date would be 4/14/01, in the UK it would likely be written 14/4/01. I assume ADDR is a US company (WHOIS says San Jose, CA), while we know for a fact that our friend Davey is from the other side of the Big Pond.

Looks *very* fishy to me. Not enough evidence for a conviction though. But there is no mention of this on thier site and their ordering system is up. Hmm...

Also, I posted in a thread a few weeks back about how Davey was spamming the WHOIS database from Register.com. All I can say is these are extremely desperate measures to get clients by fraud and deception and cannot in the long run work out. Unfortunately in the short run he might actually dupe a few people...

Well, I personally would say that it'd be "the 14th of April", but certainly there's a difference with a lot of people and how they word things, US as opposed to the UK or Australia, or other countries. Too bad they didn't say "We're shutting off the BLOODY servers on 14, April.", then we'd have a better idea. *L*

In all seriousness though, this surely might not have been our weasely friend, but it's very likely to be, judging by the addr/experthosting issues... who else would profit from that, other than a fraudulent company (experthosting/Peter/Davey, etc.) trying to reaffirm their standing and offer to those poor people that weren't directly ripped off by the company themselves. Experthosting simply cuts out the middle man.

I'd love for Davey to see this and threaten to sue me again -- that fraudulent, deceiving, lying, communist, pig sucking, thief of a wanna-be, cut throat, ammeter con artist that can't run a web host and has to resort to committing federal and international crimes, because his mother spanked him when he was bad and he liked it a little too much.. that sniveling little scum bag that's still trying to raise money for his sex change operation to allow him the privilege of having human organs... that sloth of a Neanderthal pond scum guzzling, she-male whoring for pence, venereal infested, illiterate, toad licking, dateless convict's bitch, wart ridden, zit faced drone from planet Zeltar's west side!! Oh, where for art thou', oh Davey?

[Edited by Tim_Greer on 04-13-2001 at 08:08 AM]

Guess you don't like huh Tim ? :)

Originally posted by Technics
Guess you don't like huh Tim ? :)

I'm still not sure... let me see his head on a platter, then I'll let you know my feelings. :-) You have to understand that there's a lot of us, that just can't really start our day right, until we get a law suit threat from Davey... I just don't feel complete without it. :-(

Originally posted by EL84
Thought you all might be interested in this email I just received. Here is an excerpt:
PLEASE forward that e-mail to me as an attachment (which should preserver the header information). OR highlight the message title in your inbox, then click on (netscape) View, Headers, All; and cut and paste the entire message into an e-mail to me at deb@mimf.com. Thanks!!!

Addr denies that this email is real!

I personally have 4 sites hosted through Addr and about 20 or so Client sites, I never received this email but a Client forwarded it to me this morning. I forwarded the message to Addr for a response and this is what I just received:

Subject: Re: Is this real? - [Fwd: ADDR.com Service Announcement - Company Closure]
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 07:49:11 -0600
From: "Addr.com Web Hosting" <support@addr.com>

Dear Addr.com Customers,

Thank you for contacting to Addr.com Support. This matter of us closing is fraudulent. The email address that these messages are being sent from is not affiliated with our services (ADDR_help@yahoo.com) and we apologize that you are receiving this information. We have been in business for over four years now and I can assure you that we are still in business and will be remaining so.

We suspect that this email is tied to the previous email from Experthosting.com and are investigating this avenue of possibility. ExpertHosting.com is a fictitious company that spams all major web hosting companies in an effort to obtain the credit card numbers of their customers. ExpertHosting has been issued a cease and desist order from our lawyers and we will be following through with legal action if it indeed turns out that Experthosting.com is affiliated with this new round of messages.

Once again we apologize that you are receiving this information and please disregard this message. We appreciate your understanding. Please feel free to contact us, if you have any more questions or concerns.

Sincerely,
Addr.com Management
720-489-9969
support@addr.com

you know I never thought I'd ever mind myself saying this, and will be beating myself with a switch for hours afterwards......

.... I'm rootin for ADDR here.

there I said it *sob*

Sure they're bad. One of the worst maybe, but if they have enough legal clout to head hunt Davey then they'll have me flag waving for them :) I read Tim's post earlier and was thinking that was almost word for word what I'd written myself a while ago when I found out he was still around. (minus the warts and she-males perhaps). I mean he's even starting to get major press for being a deadbeat... It's *can't* go on for much longer can it??

Greg Moore

Thanks all!

I did some reading last nite about email headers. I think this excerpt from the header indicates it was sent from a dialup in UK:

Received: from yahoo.com (d231-220.dial.mistral.co.uk [195.184.231.220]) by get.freewire.net

I forwarded the message to addr.com's abuse inbox.

And Tim, it's Sovteks :)

Greg,

I disagree with part of your post regarding Addr being "one of the worst".

I've been using Addr for about 5 years now and like I said in my previous post, I have several Clients who are also hosted at Addr.

Addr is a great value and their servers are relatively stable! By comparison to some other Hosts, I've tried, they are considerably better!

Sure they may not always provide the best support (at least not if your looking for immediate feedback) but they have improved significantly over the years.

As far as their recent "Hacking" situation is concerned, realistically, it could happen to any Host and even happens to the top named Hosts. The only difference is that the top name Hosts somehow avoid getting that information publized but the fact is that it still happens... look at the recent denial of service attacks on CNN and MSN along with others, if these things can happen to the big guys it can happen to anyone.

Too many people give Addr a bad name... I mean what the heck do you expect for $9.95/month.

I look at Addr as the Web Host for those people who don't need hand-holding to host their sites but are more concerned with reliability and cost savings... if that's what you're interested in a Web Host, then Addr definately fits the bill.

Not trying to start a war... just my $.02

Lisa

Here is the header information (thanks, Dave!!):

Return-Path: <addr_help@yahoo.com>
Received: from addr.com. ([209.249.147.8]) by mail06.dfw.mindspring.net (Mindspring/Netcom Mail Service)
with ESMTP id tdcp3v.jid.33qs88a for <xxxx@xxxx.com>; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:29:19
-0400 (EDT)
Received: from get.freewire.net (get.freewire.net [195.184.229.250]) by addr.com. (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP
id TAA39579 for <xxxx@xxxx.com>; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:29:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from
addr_help@yahoo.com)
Received: from yahoo.com (d231-220.dial.mistral.co.uk [195.184.231.220]) by get.freewire.net (8.8.7/8.6.9)
with SMTP id DAA16447 for <xxxx@xxxx.com>; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 03:15:26 +0100
Message-ID: <200104130214.TZQ5156@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 02:14:15 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Subject: ADDR.com Service Announcement - Company Closure
From: "ADDR.COM Web Hosting" <addr_help@yahoo.com>
To: xxxx@xxxx.com
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000