I'm adding a new section to BigBytes soon and would appreciate the "UK" ISPs that offer dedicated servers posting their name/URL here or emailing me

Thanks guys...

Les

~~~ BigBytes ~~~
http://www.bigbytes.co.uk

Email: net@bigbytes.co.uk

hi
bigbytes do u know any provider that gives 170gb bandwith with 3gb space
in england or europe?

OnlyReal - Id suggest emailing or phoning one of the big boys who own there own data center like WebFusion, CyberQuest, FastHosts, Ghoulnet and see if they can make you a custom plan or make a deal on a dedicated server. But using that much bandwidth and if the server is based in the UK will cost you thousands.

have u heard digitalswiftness before


their rates are too good

Whats the web address?

http://www.digitalswiftness.co.uk

They offer them unlimited harddrives.

Onlyreal if you are looking for that much bandwidth in the UK/Europe then I doubt DigitalSwiftnes can provide it because looking at the prices they charge for bandwidth they are not hosting there servers in the UK.

Also of note is that there server for their main site appears to be hosted at Alabanza which makes me think even more that there servers are not in the UK(Not a bad thing at all BTW).

can anyone say any rate what is the maximmum bandwith i can take with this money?
thanks

Digital Swiftness is an independent hosting company based in the UK non of our site/server are hosted with Alabanza and we do not have anything to do with Alabanza.

We deliver what we promise on our site, that is why we are a fast growing web hosting company in the UK with well over 10,000 customers, if anybody doubt us give us a trial, we would give you what ever hosting package you are looking for absolutely free for 30 days.

People should watch what they post on this message board for the sake of making one or two sales, if any one has a bad experience with DS they should say it rather than people trying to rubbish us for no reason.

We would be lauching our new site soon with a lot of more powerful features, http://www.ideasandassociates.com/ds/

Welcome rotimi.

If you're so sure that DigitalSwiftness has nothing to do with Alabanza (you say none).... Then could you please explain why your main site is hosted on an Alabanza server?

Results from http://www.samspade.org/t/lookat.cgi?address=www.digitalswiftness.co.uk&ipblock=on&clueless=no

=============================================
Official name: http://www.digitalswiftness.co.uk

Addresses: 64.177.18.19


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

IP block lookup for 64.177.18.19
whois -h whois.arin.net 64.177.18.19

Alabanza, Inc. (NETBLK-ALABANZA-BALT-4)
8309 Tinsley Rd.
Baltimore, MD 21244
US

Netname: ALABANZA-BALT-4
Netblock: 64.176.0.0 - 64.177.255.255
Maintainer: ALAB

Coordinator:
Cunningham, Thomas (TC12-ARIN) ipadmin@alabanza.com
410-779-1400

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

NS.ALABANZA.COM 209.239.47.252
NS2.ALABANZA.COM 209.239.47.201

ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

Record last updated on 06-Oct-2000.
Database last updated on 5-Apr-2001 22:35:13 EDT.

============================================

If you were reselling for a host who's with Alabanza (and you had no idea) then I'd understand the confusion, but if you are an Alabanza host then please say so, as there are no gains to be made (and lots to be lost) by keeping secrets or lying on this forum.

The IP of the domain clearly does not reflect ippro.net, which are the name servers this domain is on... so just because it points to an Alabanza IP (if it hasn't been reallocated)doesn't mean to say they are offering Alabanza hosting. Unless ippro.net is a cleverly diguised Alabanza host using their own IP's issued to @home (which I didn't think Alabanza allowed AT ALL)

Several companies I know have servers in multiple NOC's but their web site/domain can only be on one server which may not reflect every plan they sell.... what's up with that??

Also, I've had an IP allocated to me at one NOC recently which still showed the previous owners when checked... eventhough they were no longer remotely connected... maybe do some proper checking before calling people liar's, which of course they very well may be...but?

Originally posted by rotimi
Digital Swiftness is an independent hosting company based in the UK non of our site/server are hosted with Alabanza and we do not have anything to do with Alabanza.

We deliver what we promise on our site, that is why we are a fast growing web hosting company in the UK with well over 10,000 customers, if anybody doubt us give us a trial, we would give you what ever hosting package you are looking for absolutely free for 30 days.

People should watch what they post on this message board for the sake of making one or two sales, if any one has a bad experience with DS they should say it rather than people trying to rubbish us for no reason.

We would be lauching our new site soon with a lot of more powerful features, http://www.ideasandassociates.com/ds/




Next time you copy an entire site (including graphics and template), try to keep a very low profile.
The WWW is smaller than your imagination, which obviously has no boundaries.

Taking my own advice...

digitalswiftness.co.uk

Name Servers:

digitalswiftness.co.uk. 9034 NS ns2.cws.net.ng.
digitalswiftness.co.uk. 9034 NS ns.cws.net.ng.

ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
ns2.cws.net.ng. 9035 A 216.217.90.8
ns.cws.net.ng. 9035 A 216.217.90.13

--------------------------------
ns.cws.net.ng

AUTHORITY RECORDS:
cws.net.ng. 3600 SOA pulse.ippro.net.

administrator.ippro.net.

13.90.217.216.in-addr.arpa. 3552 PTR ns.cws.net.ng.

AUTHORITY RECORDS:
90.217.216.in-addr.arpa. 3552 NS ns1.home.net.
90.217.216.in-addr.arpa. 3552 NS ns2.ippro.net.
90.217.216.in-addr.arpa. 3552 NS ns.ippro.net.
90.217.216.in-addr.arpa. 3552 NS cigar.ippro.net.
90.217.216.in-addr.arpa. 3552 NS pulse.ippro.net.
90.217.216.in-addr.arpa. 3552 NS ns2.home.net.

ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
ns1.home.net. 167196 A 24.0.0.27
ns2.ippro.net. 167422 A 216.217.90.6
ns.ippro.net. 167422 A 216.217.90.11
cigar.ippro.net. 1151 A 216.217.90.5
pulse.ippro.net. 1151 A 216.217.90.4
ns2.home.net. 167196 A 24.2.0.27

-----------------------------------
Whois;

[whois.bulkregister.com]
N/A
750 E. Marshall Street #214
West Chester, PA 19380
US

Domain Name: IPPRO.NET

Administrative Contact:
Paul Rice cpaulrice@yahoo.com
Domain Registration Wizards
301 Exton Lane
Exton, PA 19341
US
Phone- 6105246659
Fax- 8013825443
Technical Contact:
Paul Rice cpaulrice@yahoo.com
Domain Registration Wizards
301 Exton Lane
Exton, PA 19341
US
Phone- 6105246659
Fax- 8013825443

-----------------------------------------

Internet Marketing Services, Inc.
750 E. Marshall Street #214
West Chester, PA 19380
US

Domain Name: IPPRO.COM

Administrative Contact:
Robert Greenawalt national@AXS2000.NET
Internet Marketing Services
750 E. Marshall Street #214
West Chester, PA 19380
US
Phone- 610-918-1372
Fax- Fax- 610-918-9682
Technical Contact:
Robert Greenawalt national@AXS2000.NET
Internet Marketing Services
750 E. Marshall Street #214
West Chester, PA 19380
US
Phone- 610-918-1372
Fax- Fax- 610-918-9682

------------------------------------------

http://ippro.net=Welcome to the MailMax/WEB Email System

--------------------------------------------
ippro.com=webreseller.net

ANSWERS:
WEBRESELLER.NET. 171250 NS ns.webreseller.net.
WEBRESELLER.NET. 171250 NS NS2.WEBRESELLER.NET.

ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
ns.webreseller.net. 171250 A 208.56.139.137
ns2.webreseller.net. 171250 A 208.56.138.123

ANSWERS:
123.138.56.208.in-addr.arpa. 86400 PTR ns2.webreseller.net.

AUTHORITY RECORDS:
138.56.208.in-addr.arpa. 86400 NS ns.alabanza.com.
138.56.208.in-addr.arpa. 86400 NS ns2.alabanza.com.

ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
ns.alabanza.com. 86400 A 209.239.47.252
ns2.alabanza.com. 43200 A 209.239.47.201

----------------------------------------

Now we're getting somewhere... ;)

Maybe they really don't know where their servers are (?)

UNLESS, they can fairly say that all hosting plans are sold on servers as described here at their site;


Our state-of-the-art operations hub in London is equipped with systems to maximize reliability and security, and to ensure your site is operational 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.

Our hub includes fully redundant connections to the Internet backbone, T3 and OC3 lines to a redundant climate control system with a backup HVAC system on stand-by, multiple UPSs (Uninterruptible Power Supplies), backup servers and network equipment, as well as a central tape backup system.


While they run their site from an Alabanza 'related' set of name servers...

Pretty simple eh?

Originally posted by Marshall
[QUOTE]
Next time you copy an entire site (including graphics and template), try to keep a very low profile.
The WWW is smaller than your imagination, which obviously has no boundaries.

That's a good looking site... Who'd they rip it off? :)

Greg Moore

which site is good looking?

this one...

http://www.ideasandassociates.com/ds/

or this one...

http://digitalswiftness.co.uk

hmmm..?

Oh, the second one... The first one is pretty nasty...

Erm.. They are the same company I presume.

Greg Moore

Originally posted by akashik
Oh, the second one... The first one is pretty nasty...

Erm.. They are the same company I presume.

Greg Moore

Surely you mean the opposite???

I think that rotimi here MAY not be connected with the people who have the site at,

http://www.ideasandassociates.com/ds/

but I could be wrong.... ;)

You're right. I meant the first one.. Every get the feeling you should be drinking more coffee :)

Greg Moore

Ewwwwwwww. Thanks felix - I stand corrected.


*curses SamSpade*

Thank you all for all your postings. We were meant to be co-locating with a company in the UK who promised our servers were being hosted in the UK, thanks to your reply to my earlier posting I have now known all I need to know and would be taking appropriate action.

The site at http://www.ideasandassociates.com/ds/ is actually our site which would be loaded to http://www.digitalswiftness.com sometimes this week, we contracted Ideas and Associates http://www.ideasandassociates.com a Canadian based company, to do the site for us as they are good at desgning site that are user friendly and attractive.

Even though, it has now been proved that our server are not being hosted in the UK, which I very much regret and apologise for and which we would be taking immediate action to rectify. This does not affect our performance as a web hosting company in the UK and we still strive to offer what we promise, this is evident in the fact that we were recommended by a client on this board.

Your posting has been very helpful! thank you all

NOTE: If there is anyone out there who was made to believe that his/her site was being hosted on a server in the UK and would want a full refund of their hosting fee, please do not hesitate to contact me at rotimi@digitalswiftness.com and you would have your money back in full.

[Edited by rotimi on 04-07-2001 at 05:49 AM]

BC,

Having 'taken my own advice' in the post afterwards I ultimately came to the conclusion that if ippro.com and ippro.net are the same crew (probably) then this digitalswiftness.co.uk AND the .com version were 'associated' with Alabanza.

In the absence of any objection or explanation thus far from rotimi, who is the registrant of those domains, AND, having looked at the other domain/site he claims is his (ideasandassociates.com) and discovering that they are in fact in Canada and UK... I think the first person to twig onto the scam here was Marshall.

It seems that rotimi is possibly a webreseller.net client who has nicked parts of the ideasandassociates.com/ds site and decided to open up for business.

Compare the sites and the whois of both domains and decide for yourself...

If in fact they are one and the same, and legitimate, then I offer an apology in advance... but I find it troubling that such a complex and spurious trail of DNS/domains/sites etc is necessary for a straight up hosting company..??

So BC... I kind of stand corrected... :)

rotimi,

for some reason my last post appeared somewhat later than I thought I posted it, and after reading your explanation... the apology contained therein is genuine... however it is complex... good luck with your endeavour...

hi

i used digitalswiftness
only thing i asked them is to learn how are they giving this bandwith with this money in europe

let me write my story with them

i go them approximetaly 1 month ago

i say my budget to them and the bandwith i want then we made an agreement a raq4

these are what they give

standart raq4 features + 150gb bandwith

for 170$/month
then they charged me in 16 march

rotimi say i can take the server in 2-3 days after waiting one week
he say they need to take 3 months in advance because they need to order new raq for me

i said i cant pay this then he say we charge back your money
it takes one week in Turkey to take see chargebacks in your credit card

2-3 days later we made another agreement that they give me 4gb space with 150gb bandwith in a linux machine for 164$

and i said i didnot take chargeback yet so i cant allow you to charge me again

he says ok and we will give you server info tommorrow and when you see chargeback we ll charge you again
i said ok

i wait approximetaly two week again but he dont give me response
he donot talk me either in icq or in their live helper
and he donot give me any reason for it

today is 7 april
and i didnot see my chargeback still
i must see the money in my card if they chargeback it when they say

i probably complain them to my bank and take money from mastercard
but i am writng this because i see that rotimi is in here
may be he will give response to me

thanks

Below is a copy of the message I sent to Oguz.
He did apply for a raq 4 server which was set up within three days, the card he presented was however declined four times over a four days period, after which we told him we were sorry we would no longer be able to provide him with the hosting service he wanted. The billing department he's independent of the support/sales team, they tried to charge the card on the fifth attempt as a result of his persistence email which was becoming a niusance - the credit card went through and had to be credit the same day because the raq 4 had already been shot down and we considered him to be a business risk

I personally told him that his card has been credited and that he should check with his bank he then told me that it normally take weeks before credit show up on his account in Turkey from his last experience.

It is our policy not to charge client's card until their account has been set up. All accounts are shot down or cancelled if card are decline more than two time, especially when it is the first payement.

****************************************
Hi Oguz

I saw your message in the message board, your card was credited and you told me it normally takes sometime before credit show up on your card in Turkey, if for any reason this credit it's not reflecting on your card, you should have send us an email to tell us the credit is not showing on your card and we could trace it to find out what has happened to the credit.

You do not explain on the message board that your card were being decline and that we attempted to charge your card four times over six days period before your card was accepted and the fact that we told you that we couldn't accept you for hosting services.

Any way, I am sending a copy of this back to the message board. Your card has been credited, please check with your bank, if you provide a fax number, I would send you a fax copy of the credit receipt. - I hope you find a hosting company that suite your needs.

Regards,

Rotimi

Rotimi,

It is not good business practise to air dirty laundry in public, and by posting that email in here is just plain rude.

It is not right we should know he has bad credit etc, and I feel you should edit the post or change it to one that is more private and less personal.

Things like this should be dealt with off the board, and maybe say something like "We are working on it off-board" instead of this.

Just my 2p worth.

James

first of i must say i have good credits over all big companies like fasthost 4webspace and others

the reason for the card decline is it is the first time i use this card and i am not sure which address i gave
they say they are making two check method
they check adress on card and what i give them after i fixing this issue i sent another request to them also another card number but they said we succesfully charged your card so they dont need to take recharge me

also is it ormal for a company charges people when they buying new software

i was with 4webspace and i got planned to buy another
raq3 they say they dont have but they plan to order after they take my request but i dont remember they want any advance payment for this

but this company charge me in 16 march and they say we ll give raq in t2o days but after two days he said we are wanting 510$ in advance

also i have icq logs about between me and him

also i am asking why he didno respond me after making second agreement

i want to say again i am not worried about my credit in companies

as i said before i used to have servers with other companies
and i donot have any problem before

thanks
Oguz Goker

Originally posted by rotimi
****************************************
It is our policy not to charge client's card until their account has been set up. All accounts are shot down or cancelled if card are decline more than two time, especially when it is the first payement.

****************************************

why you said we successfully charge you and your server (second time your hosting package) will be ready in two days


what kind of answer will you give to this question


i know my card didnot charged in first time because i am using this card first time and my adress is written in turkish characters i said you this then you say it no problem please send us another card then i ssend you another then you said we successfully charge your first card


these are your words i hgave i cq logs of these conversations


i also had to keep the logs of livehelper but i didnot

if i knew you are a this kind of company i keep this logs

more importantly i never make deal with you

i gave two chance to your company

now i knew i made my biggest mistake in my hosting history

thanks Oguz Goker

also

if owner of hostway is in here he must sue your company for copying their desing

http://www.hostway.com
and
http://www.digitalswiftness.co.uk

also look their new design in http://www.ideasandassociates.com/ds/order_dedicated.htm


lok the bottom of the form an the thing written

"If you were referred by another Hostway.com member, enter their domain name above. This will enable them to receive referral credit. You too can receive referral credit by spreading the word after you signup. In order for this to work, you should have chosen "Referral by Existing Customer" in How did you hear about us? above"

this the provence of their copies in new and old design

i must make more investigate next time i select new company

[Edited by onlyreal on 04-07-2001 at 06:29 PM]

Lying has an irrefutable value in human culture, for the ability to deceive one's peers has evolved into one of the most advanced and powerful of our cerebral functions. It is a double edged knife that could either :

help us succeed in love, war and commerce
Dig our own grave

shhh Marshall :)

No mind games - it is 11:45pm in the UK :D

--WildWayz

Originally posted by rotimi


We deliver what we promise on our site, that is why we are a fast growing web hosting company in the UK with well over 10,000 customers, if anybody doubt us give us a trial, we would give you what ever hosting package you are looking for absolutely free for 30 days.




That makes you bigger than WebFusion and if your UK based i find that hard to believe since they are the biggest in the UK.

Webfusion rock!

Then there's One and One (1 and 1).

Trouble is, bandwidth in the UK is SOOOOOO expensive - think Webfusion charge 2p per MB.

--James

Originally posted by WildWayz
Webfusion rock!

Then there's One and One (1 and 1).

--James

I really hope you aren't being serious with those statements.

As for the 10,000 customers, if DigitalSwiftness have 10,000 customers then the IR are going to want to talk to them because I don't believe (Couldn't find any evidence on their site) they are VAT registered and 10,000 customers at the cheapest price of £4.99 per month (If paid yearly) that I could find is nearly £50,000 per month revenue - The VAT threshold is £50,000 per year.

LOL

Don't know personally about One and One, but Webfusion seemed fine when I had an account with them - apart from the lack of bandwidth.

--WildWayz

WebFusion to say they spent £1 million on a data center youd think they could make the network fast. Takes me ages to connect to any sites hosted by them and my connection is fine. Even portland.co.uk and freedom2surf are faster than WebFusion.

one&one is another story they have a fast network but i dont think they host the amount of domains they say they do.

http://www.digitalswiftness.com/

http://www.hostway.com

look similar?

Originally posted by Technics
http://www.digitalswiftness.com/

http://www.hostway.com

look similar?

Yes they do... and that's because the same design company..ideasandassociates.com, are responsible for both designs.

I suggest that a number of other factors though, indicate that friend rotimi is not being the model host.

rotimi, this is your chance to prove up your bona fides, because at this point it really looks like you are a cheat.

It isn't fair to you, if you are being falsely branded this way, and you seem to be quick on your feet, so you should be able to identify the correct things to say here to show that you are legit.

If you can't do that, I'd suggest you take up in a different industry.