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maxxkin
09-21-2002, 07:31 AM
Hi everyone,
I am pretty new to reselling hosting and tried to read lots of discussions going on here.
I don't know if you ever noticed, but it is pretty confusing for a newbie. Lots of resellers, lots of companies, lots of comments...

After I read as much as I can what I came up with is;
The most important things are;
1- trust (I don't want any of them be here today and disapear the next day)
2- support (since I don't know very much about the business and technical issues, I need some backup)
3- speed (not looking for super fast, fast is good enough)
4- features (I don't want everything unlimited but also I don't want to have less than average features)
5- price (if you are really happy with the service I think $100/yearly difference is not too much)

And the candidates I came up with are;
splashhost, kualo, mchost and httpme...

Indeed I didn't see a big difference between any of them. Only seems kualo has more features (I mean web space and trafic) and lower price...

I still couldn't decide to pick one up because I think I'm probably missing something...

What I see all of the candides are good enough acording to these concerns...
Since I am a newbie I think there may be more to discover in the reselling universe yet...

:confused:
Do you guys think that I am missing a point there?
Or should I just do the math according the things above and pick one?
(so far kualo seems most logical)

Thanks in advance

:)

puggy106
09-21-2002, 07:35 AM
Those 5 points pretty much cover it all, you have everything there which I would just say:)

I wish you the best of luck.

SoftWareRevue
09-21-2002, 07:39 AM
I don't envy you. It has to be a difficult choice.
If I were in your position and trying to decided between four, I would narrow it down by seeing if any of them offered a money back guarantee (30 days would be nice).

I'm sure that, if you contacted any of the hosts and told them your concerns, they could assure you that they would help you should you decide their service is simply not right for your needs. Of course, if they couldn't do that, ask the next one.

You just have to pick one and go for it.

puggy106
09-21-2002, 07:54 AM
Put them all in a hat!

Bloory
09-21-2002, 08:00 AM
Just one thing to watch: some of those on the list allow you to "oversell" i.e. allocate webspace and transfer limits above the amount you are personally limited to e.g. you pay for 10GB transfer but can allocate 20GB to your clients. If the total used is greater than the amount you paid for you have to pay an overage charge. Some on your list do not allow this. There are plus and minus points on this score, so you need to be sure which you want. Kualo doesn't allow overselling, HTTPMe does and I'm not sure about the other two.

HTH

maxxkin
09-21-2002, 08:42 AM
Thank you for the replies...
What I understand is; there is always some highs and lows but more or less they are very close to each other.
Now it's time to some more investigation on details and at the very end, put them all in a hat and just pick one :D

Aussie Bob
09-21-2002, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by maxxkin
And the candidates I came up with are;
splashhost, kualo, mchost and httpme...

Indeed I didn't see a big difference between any of them. Only seems kualo has more features (I mean web space and trafic) and lower price...
Watch that your provider will let you "oversell" your space and data transfer. Some resellers providers won't let their clients setup accounts that add up to beyond their account limitations. They can offer a lot more in disk space and data transfer but you're not really going to use it etc...

The difference as far as profitability for a reseller between a supplier that will let you oversell your reseller's account and a provider that won't let you, is enormous.

Just thought I'd point that out. :)

Techark
09-21-2002, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Aussie Bob

Watch that your provider will let you "oversell" your space and data transfer. Some resellers providers won't let their clients setup accounts that add up to beyond their account limitations. They can offer a lot more in disk space and data transfer but you're not really going to use it etc...

The difference as far as profitability for a reseller between a supplier that will let you oversell your reseller's account and a provider that won't let you, is enormous.

Just thought I'd point that out. :)

Yes but be careful on that score also, because if the host oversells and he lets his resellers oversell by too much you could end up on one REAL oversold server. If it ever comes time to pay the piper so to speak and all that oversold space starts getting used you could be on one dog of an overloaded server.

My suggestion is do a search on each one of the host here not the host name but the user name they post under. Get a feel for the person you are going to be dealing with and their way of looking at things. That could be the thing that makes a differnece to you in the end.

As far as being a good host I think they all are, I do not use any of them but have not seen any of them with negative feedback on the forum.

maxxkin
09-21-2002, 09:47 AM
it is indeed means that for example;
I have 1GB of space and 10GB of traffic and When I assinged all of them lets say to 10 clients (100MB space and 1GB traffic each), but I can still add another client because you say they will indeed not use the whole web space and traffic up to the limits?
And when I really overuse all the space and trafic what then? Will I be billed additionaly? (not just asking to Bob and httpme, I mean in general). Or maybe upgrade to a higher plan?

And Aussie Bob:
I'm reading this forums for a few days only but 1 out of every 3 mesages I read here is from or about you...
I know this is a great way of promoting the business but how you find time to "run" the business???

Aussie Bob
09-21-2002, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by maxxkin
it is indeed means that for example;
I have 1GB of space and 10GB of traffic and When I assinged all of them lets say to 10 clients (100MB space and 1GB traffic each), but I can still add another client because you say they will indeed not use the whole web space and traffic up to the limits?
Yes, you can add 20 more clients inside that space, if you want. Most reseller accounts let you create domains based on their actual usage and not what you set them up at. But Monte is right. Overselling can be dangerous if it's abused. But overselling is a part of the industry.
And when I really overuse all the space and trafic what then? Will I be billed additionaly? (not just asking to Bob and httpme, I mean in general). Or maybe upgrade to a higher plan?
If you USE more resources, then just upgrade to another higher plan level etc.
And Aussie Bob:
I'm reading this forums for a few days only but 1 out of every 3 mesages I read here is from or about you...
Weeeellll, I don't think it's really that many. :)
I know this is a great way of promoting the business but how you find time to "run" the business???
Things run very smoothly. I'm not here all that much. I duck in and out during my 17hr working day. Make a few posts etc. It doesn't take much time. It's all about time management. ;)

WildCard
09-21-2002, 11:26 AM
Yeah, I do think that it is a system limitation to Plesk control panel that it won't allow overselling. I could be wrong, something an old host told me.

Hope that helps-
-WC-

elevation
09-21-2002, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Bloory
Kualo doesn't allow overselling, HTTPMe does and I'm not sure about the other two.

Just to clarify --- we allow our resellers to oversell bandwidth, just not space :)

MCHost-Marc
09-21-2002, 01:09 PM
We do allow overselling. As long as your clients don't use up all their resources, you're fine and there's no need to upgrade :)

Bloory
09-21-2002, 03:54 PM
Sorry for the confusion Kiwi, that was my understanding from our emails, but you've made your position clear above.

If Kualo does allow overselling, that may mean you would need to look at other features that make things different.

Sorry again for the confusion.