First off I would like to start by introducing myself. My name is Travis Rowland, I am the owner of Flohost Web Services. I will not post a link as I know it will get deleted. If you do a search through WHT you will see that there are not any problems with the Flohost service, and if there was they were addressed very quickly.

I want you all to know that I am taking over control of EARhost. There are a lot of good people using it as their webhost and I hate to see it being destroyed by Tim and not to mention James's reputations. My reputation is very sturdy and I am aiming to turn this company around.

My goal is simple, provide cost-effective hosting with excellent support. I am very experienced in both fields, all of my customers at Flohost are satisfied as you can see browsing through the forums. If you like you may contact a few of them directly and ask them what they think of the service and support.

I know that EARhost has a very bad reputation due to the previous management and I am going to fix all of that. I know that it may take me awhile but I am prepared for that. I hope that you all are willing to support me in my efforts because this company will no longer have anything to do with Paradise Designs or any of those other companies that are associated with Tim.

I see a bright future and I hope you are all with me in this and can offer your support. I am not doing this as an advertisement, but only my first step to reform EARhost. I want to clear up the bad reputation and start over again, as I stated before I hope you are all willing to back me up in this.

That is about all that I have to say at the moment on this.

The website is down at the moment because the server that the main site was hosted on is unplugged because Tim is late with the bill :angry: I will get that site moved ASAP

Another something, in the world of Tim:
Today while I was at school there was a minister from back east called the 1-8666-EARHOST number. Since that now redirects to my phone it rang through to my house. It was answered by my mom. It was an angry customer. He was threatening to sue (my mom thought he was talking about me) and turn me in for fraud and she was scared to death. She was crying, I can not believe that Tim can put up with that crap. My mom pulled me out of school and made me call the guy up and clear things up. I did that and the guy is going to get hosting through EARhost. He is exicited about this new opportunity that I presented to him. That really makes me upset that it happened, but it just goes to show you what goes on if you do not take care of business.

Well, I am very anxious to get this thing on the road and it is exciting that I get to do this. I am honored to help out this company in any way possible. Are you all stuck with your opinions about EARhost or do you think that I can change your minds for you? Please let me know, and if you have any suggestions you can post them here. I am open to constructive criticism.

Best Regards,
Travis Rowland

good luck...

will you be using flohost or earhost?

and btw, not the proper forum...

Well, I wish you the best of luck with this endeavor. However I don't see why you'd keep the 'tainted' name. Why not just bring it all under the wing of Flohost and let everyone forget about the EARhost fiasco?

I don't see how someone in school can really do too well with that kinda stuff.

Originally posted by dreamHOBO
I don't see how someone in school can really do too well with that kinda stuff.


I am the systems administrator at the school, I admin all the computers in both schools in the disctrict. They have a special schedule for me and I spend most of my day on the computer. I am a valuable asset to them and they realize that, the only thing I do not do in school is instant messenger, other than that I can check emails, respond to emails, fix server problems etc. The rest can wait until I get home.

Originally posted by FloHost
. . . . . . I am not doing this as an advertisement. . . . . . . . Funny. It looks like an ad.

Maybe I need to get my glasses fixed.

No, its just the bull-crap on your screen :)

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Funny. It looks like an ad.

Maybe I need to get my glasses fixed.

I would not be advertising a business where the site doesnt work :stickout

But you can put your press release under another forum, I'm sure that this its not the correct one, althrough you can confuse because another companies already did it, which give you the right to think that this its the correct forum.

Originally posted by FloHost


I would not be advertising a business where the site doesnt work :stickout

you posted in attempt for commercial gain, clearly violating forum guidelines.

Originally posted by Jedito
But you can put your press release under another forum, I'm sure that this its not the correct one, althrough you can confuse because another companies already did it, which give you the right to think that this its the correct forum.


If I am not mistaken, this is the forum to discuss webhosting. That is what I want to do, I want to talk about EARhost. Where would be the correct forum to post this?

Where is the press release forum anyway? The lounge? Related offers? Website Reviews?

If I wanted to announce our impending purchase of SAH, where would I go? :D

Originally posted by akash


you posted in attempt for commercial gain, clearly violating forum guidelines.

That is true, you can consider trying to improve the reputation of this company as commercial gain. Thank you for pointing that out, I guess this should have been in some sort of advertisement forum, however if I were to do that it would probably be deleted because it does not have prices listed in it. So if this and that forum are not the right place to post it, where do I post it? I am thouroughly confused :eek:

Originally posted by FloHost


That is true, you can consider trying to improve the reputation of this company as commercial gain. Thank you for pointing that out, I guess this should have been in some sort of advertisement forum, however if I were to do that it would probably be deleted because it does not have prices listed in it. So if this and that forum are not the right place to post it, where do I post it? I am thouroughly confused :eek:

i think related offers would have been fine if they community leaders (they aren't called mods anymore ;) ) objected to it being in shared offers

People, back off!
You guys are so ready to flame at someone that you would find anything to flame about! Get lives! Anyway, I think he is doing a wonderful job at trying to get EARhost back on its feet after what Tim did to drive it into the ground.

Give him some credibility - at least he is trying is what I can't say for a lot of you guys.

Good job, Travis.

Originally posted by FloHost



If I am not mistaken, this is the forum to discuss webhosting. That is what I want to do, I want to talk about EARhost. Where would be the correct forum to post this?


Participants may not use the forum to publish or discuss any information regarding their product or services, or future (possible) products or services, or any product or services they are, or have been, associated with. This includes, but not limit to suggesting your own services, or services of partners or family.

Participants may not solicit the membership for feedback or suggestions on their product or services.

Originally posted by akash


i think related offers would have been fine if they community leaders (they aren't called mods anymore ;) ) objected to it being in shared offers

Okay, I will remember that for future reference. I will not repost this in that forum because that would be considered spamming. Thank you for the tip.

It is very much a press release.
I talked to Tim yesterday, from what he said he was very much still a part of earhost and said things were opening up again. What can you say to convince us that he really is gone from the company?
Also, did you buy earhost, or are you just a new member of the staff? Is James still part of the company, is Tim still part of the company? If they are not, what did you do to make them leave their company?

I think this forum was valid...EarHost is a WebHosting Company...He is giving you info on it.

Originally posted by Rewdog
It is very much a press release.
I talked to Tim yesterday, from what he said he was very much still a part of earhost and said things were opening up again. What can you say to convince us that he really is gone from the company?
Also, did you buy earhost, or are you just a new member of the staff? Is James still part of the company, is Tim still part of the company? If they are not, what did you do to make them leave their company?

SWR: looks like i'm not the only one thinking it :D

Originally posted by dreamHOBO
I think this forum was valid...EarHost is a WebHosting Company...He is giving you info on it.


he is doing so in an attempt for commercial gain, clearly prohibited in the rules

Originally posted by dreamHOBO
I think this forum was valid...EarHost is a WebHosting Company...He is giving you info on it. Jorge explained it well. What is so hard about not suggesting your services that you don't understand?

I am taking the company over completely. I told Tim I would not have anything to do with it if either him or James were a part of it because that would only counter-act what I am doing.

Its his company, that's where the problem lies. I couldn't come here and say, "My hosting company _____ just got a new server, Check it out and look forward to it"

Originally posted by FloHost
I am taking the company over completely. I told Tim I would not have anything to do with it if either him or James were a part of it because that would only counter-act what I am doing.
How did you do that since it was their company? :eek:

Originally posted by JamRover
People, back off!
You guys are so ready to flame at someone that you would find anything to flame about! Get lives! Anyway, I think he is doing a wonderful job at trying to get EARhost back on its feet after what Tim did to drive it into the ground.

Give him some credibility - at least he is trying is what I can't say for a lot of you guys.

Good job, Travis.

I'd just like to point out that I didn't flame him, and that any flames are not because he's taking over earhost, but because he posted in the wrong forum (not a good start)

Originally posted by Rewdog

How did you do that since it was their company? :eek: According to anything I can find; it still is.

Originally posted by Rewdog

How did you do that since it was their company? :eek:

They dont want to do the work to keep the company up, they just want the money so I made a sweet deal for them.

I will give them a percentage of the profits for a bit and then it is mine. They were just going to leave and let it die because of the company-jumping.

They'd be much smarter just selling their clients :stickout

Originally posted by akash


I'd just like to point out that I didn't flame him, and that any flames are not because he's taking over earhost, but because he posted in the wrong forum (not a good start)


I apologize, I did not mean to post in the wrong forum. I am not a very experienced WHT person. I do have a lot of posts but those are mostly replies to other people's threads. I usually try to stay out of other people's business and do not come to WHT often.

Originally posted by dreamHOBO
I think this forum was valid...EarHost is a WebHosting Company...He is giving you info on it.
So its mine :), can I start comments about my company?
Come on people, the rules are clear, not need to argue, the best thing should be request a moderator to move this thread to the correct forum.

Originally posted by Rewdog
They'd be much smarter just selling their clients :stickout


Smarter? Think of who we are referring to...:D

Originally posted by FloHost



Smarter? Think of who we are referring to...:D

LOL :D

Did you buy them out? Did they just hand it over to you? Do Tim or James still have any ownership in the company? Are either one of them going to be working for it?

If you answer no to those questions then explian why you would not just take the customers and move them to your servers and kill the EARhost name since the rep is so bad.

Sorry but I do not believe a company that has lost all it's servers and does not even have a web site any longer has that many customers that you are saving.

This whole thing smells of another Timmy and James scam job and I feel for you if you want to drag your name through the mud with those two.

No one would trust Tim enough to buy his clients.

monte: be careful of what you say, you dont want to be wrong

Originally posted by Monte
Did you buy them out? Did they just hand it over to you? Do Tim or James still have any ownership in the company? Are either one of them going to be working for it?

If you answer no to those questions then explian why you would not just take the customers and move them to your servers and kill the EARhost name since the rep is so bad.

Sorry but I do not believe a company that has lost all it's servers and does not even have a web site any longer has that many customers that you are saving.

This whole thing smells of another Timmy and James scam job and I feel for you if you want to drag your name through the mud with those two.



I am buying them out, as I said I am giving them a percentage of the income for a bit and that will take care of what I owe them for EARhost.

The EARhost site is hosted on a totally different server away from the reseller servers, as well as the billing system. I currently do not have access to customer information and I am trying to get the DC to turn the server back on so I can get the billing information.

It is not a scam, I am legitimate and I would not risk losing my company to help a scammer.

Originally posted by dreamHOBO
No one would trust Tim enough to buy his clients.
I would as long as I payed AFTER the clients were moved to my servers.

Originally posted by FloHost


They dont want to do the work to keep the company up, they just want the money so I made a sweet deal for them.

I will give them a percentage of the profits for a bit and then it is mine. They were just going to leave and let it die because of the company-jumping.

So they are still very much a part of the company, if they are taking a cut. Also, does this not make you somewhat liable for any of the previous mistakes / fraud that has been committed by tim and james taking over their business? How do you plan on turning things around using the earhost structure, if it could not be done 2 ( or more? ) times in the past? What exactly are your plans?

I still do not see why you would hang on to the name or the site.
If I am wrong I am wrong and I am sure you will prove it to me. But I have seen too many people brunt, too many threads a mile long and too many former customers screaming why didn't someone warn us about EARhost I and and Earhost MkII. Read the threads where people took memebers here to task for not telling them of the history of the company. If you want to buy it great, I suggest you not market here on WHT, do it elsewhere then 6 months or so after you have proven it is a legit company OK, but around here there are too many bad memories.

Just my .02 on the whole thing.

Originally posted by Haze


So they are still very much a part of the company, if they are taking a cut. Also, does this not make you somewhat liable for any of the previous mistakes / fraud that has been committed by tim and james taking over their business? How do you plan on turning things around using the earhost structure, if it could not be done 2 ( or more? ) times in the past? What exactly are your plans?


They are not a part of the company at all, I can do whatever I choose. I am changing all of the passwords on everything so they have absolutely no access. Yes of course I am liable for what has happened in the past, I am hoping to get all of that cleared up. Most people are understanding about my situation and are giving me a chance. That preacher that called, he is now hosting with me. I am not a scammer, I am dedicated to what I am doing. You have to admit that the other two times it was just a game for them. I am serious about this.

Originally posted by Monte
I still do not see why you would hang on to the name or the site.
If I am wrong I am wrong and I am sure you will prove it to me. But I have seen too many people brunt, too many threads a mile long and too many former customers screaming why didn't someone warn us about EARhost I and and Earhost MkII. Read the threads where people took memebers here to task for not telling them of the history of the company. If you want to buy it great, I suggest you not market here on WHT, do it elsewhere then 6 months or so after you have proven it is a legit company OK, but around here there are too many bad memories.

Just my .02 on the whole thing.


You have a good point and I have thought about that. I told myself that if I can not get this turned around or at least get it perpetuated in 2 or 3 months I will just merge everything with Flohost.

Mind if I ask why take on 2 web hosting companies instead of staying with 1?

Question came up indirectly by others, I thought I'd cut to the point :rolleyes:

Originally posted by FloHost
You have to admit that the other two times it was just a game for them. I am serious about this.
One of the main things that lead me to believe this was the pricing. Do you plan on continueing providing the same service at the same price that was provided by EARHost? If so, have you thought long and hard about how you are going to sustain the service at those prices?

Originally posted by Haze

One of the main things that lead me to believe this was the pricing. Do you plan on continueing providing the same service at the same price that was provided by EARHost? If so, have you thought long and hard about how you are going to sustain the service at those prices?

That pricing is unprofitable, if will definately go up however I will not punish the current customers for the mistakes made of others in the past. I will let them continue the same prices for their current plans that they signed up with



Originally posted by Rewdog
Mind if I ask why take on 2 web hosting companies instead of staying with 1?

Question came up indirectly by others, I thought I'd cut to the point

I want to keep EARhost in tact until I get everything sorted out that has to do with it. I need to get the billing sorted out and see what the payment status is on the servers. At the moment I do not know if they will drop out from under me :mad:

I am making a lot of phone calls to get to the bottom of this, I just want to make sure that everything is sorted out so I do not have a huge mess when I merge everything.



EDIT: Thanks Haze

Just a note for future reference, the second quote by flohost in the previous post was not a direct quote of a post make by me. Just a lil mistake.

...i agree with lightnin, and don't see your logic in wanting to "resuscitate" earhost, rather than just bring in current customers under your present hosting "environment"...

...i see nothing at all "honorable" (as you put it) in doing so... there is, in my opinion, nothing great about the site visually, and the name is sophmoric, not excatly what i describe as having any significant marketable advantage...

...but considering you have made up your mind, and knowing that people may come to this thread looking for deals, i do have a few basic questions for you:

1) is flohost legally licensed to do business? if so, what is the company name, and from where is the company licensed?
2) if the answer to the above is "yes", then will earhost be legally licensed as well?
3) will the whois information for earhost.com be changed to reflect the information found when looking up flohost?
4) will the whois information for earhost.net be changed to reflect the information found when looking up flohost?
5) do you really believe that we can believe you in no way will be doing business with tim and james? what about paradisedesigns , registrywallet, colo4u (tim's address is in CA on that one) and several other "scam operations" in which tim is, or trying to be actively involved?
6) do you file taxes on your hosting income yearly? if i sent a letter of inquiry to the irs, would you have anything to worry about?

...it's no secret that i am opposed to minors operating hosting services, or any services exchanged for money on the internet... to wish you luck would be hypocritical for me...

...i would be more impressed with you if you sold your own business to someone legally old enough to enter contractual relationships, unless your parents are backing you in writing with the necessary paperwork, and will take responsibility for your actions or lack thereof at any time in the future... under those circumstances, minors as internet service providers, or providers of anything for money, are slightly less dangerous...

...your exploits at school are admirable... for now, that's where they belong... in my opinion...

the question is still unanswered ...

why do you want to buy into Tim's crap when clearly there is no value in his business for you to tap on? bad rep, no clients and the few left are on unprofitable plans ... are there actually enough collectibles or assests that make this a logical move?

I agree, with Scroller. You said yourself their plans are unprofitable, and you aren't going to change those clients plans. So basically, you are supporting them for no profit, when you could really just be working on flohost with your time?

Originally posted by the-muse
...i agree with lightnin, and don't see your logic in wanting to "resuscitate" earhost, rather than just bring in current customers under your present hosting "environment"...

...i see nothing at all "honorable" (as you put it) in doing so... there is, in my opinion, nothing great about the site visually, and the name is sophmoric, not excatly what i describe as having any significant marketable advantage...

...but considering you have made up your mind, and knowing that people may come to this thread looking for deals, i do have a few basic questions for you:

1) is flohost legally licensed to do business? if so, what is the company name, and from where is the company licensed?
2) if the answer to the above is "yes", then will earhost be legally licensed as well?
3) will the whois information for earhost.com be changed to reflect the information found when looking up flohost?
4) will the whois information for earhost.net be changed to reflect the information found when looking up flohost?
5) do you really believe that we can believe you in no way will be doing business with tim and james? what about paradisedesigns , registrywallet, colo4u (tim's address is in CA on that one) and several other "scam operations" in which tim is, or trying to be actively involved?
6) do you file taxes on your hosting income yearly? if i sent a letter of inquiry to the irs, would you have anything to worry about?

...it's no secret that i am opposed to minors operating hosting services, or any services exchanged for money on the internet... to wish you luck would be hypocritical for me...

...i would be more impressed with you if you sold your own business to someone legally old enough to enter contractual relationships, unless your parents are backing you in writing with the necessary paperwork, and will take responsibility for your actions or lack thereof at any time in the future... under those circumstances, minors as internet service providers, or providers of anything for money, are slightly less dangerous...

...your exploits at school are admirable... for now, that's where they belong... in my opinion...

OT, I know, but is you . button broken or something?

Originally posted by the-muse
...i would be more impressed with you if you sold your own business to someone legally old enough to enter contractual relationships, unless your parents are backing you in writing with the necessary paperwork, and will take responsibility for your actions or lack thereof at any time in the future... under those circumstances, minors as internet service providers, or providers of anything for money, are slightly less dangerous...

...your exploits at school are admirable... for now, that's where they belong... in my opinion... [/B]

I am only in school because I have to be, if I had a choice I would be working 24/7. I also work for my ISP, I make housecalls and I setup new servers. Most of my work is correspondance courses through OIT (Oregon Institute of Technology) I am an advanced minor, and I do not appreciate your generalization. I will not be a minor in a few months. You are opposed to a Senior in High School that is very ambitious about his future and is working very hard for everything he has over an 18 year old junkie that dropped out of high school as soon as he could at the age of 16? See, I can make generalizations too and they get us nowhere. So if you are not going to have any constructive criticism please keep your comments to yourself. Thank you.

Originally posted by Haze


OT, I know, but is you . button broken or something?
I believe he is trying to convey that the computer is reading his thoughts, and that the .. is when the computer starts to receive and .. is ending the transmission :D

Originally posted by Rewdog
I agree, with Scroller. You said yourself their plans are unprofitable, and you aren't going to change those clients plans. So basically, you are supporting them for no profit, when you could really just be working on flohost with your time?


There is a large customer base, enough to keep the servers up but not much more working room after that. If I take on more clients at a higher rate it works. It is just not a good idea to keep everyone crammed on a few servers... there are an average of 27 resellers per server and I want to fix that. That is horriible.

I will tell you why this does not jive with me. James lost all his customers from Earhost I except for the ones he had sold 5 year plans to that he was stuck with. Tim and him were in business for 2 months max before the bottom fell out. They have lost almost all their servers. They could not have gained that many new clients in that short of time, the ones they did get, would be gone by now with no support no web site etc. If James and Tim still had operational servers with customers on them they would have moved the Earhost site to one of them. Instead they were trying to buy a reseller account themselves to put their site on from insiderhosting. Last time I looked it was on some slow connection somewhere probably being served from Tim's house.

So what did you buy? The name? Not worth a dime a liablity if anything. Customers? As I said they could not have that many left and the ones they do are not sustainable on the plans they are on, you admit that yourself. Servers if they have any they are so far in debt it would not be worth the effort. If you buy Earhost you are also buying all the debt left over from James and Tim.

So this is a deal with no assets and loads of liablity yet we are supposed to believe you made a sweet deal with James and Tim.

I like you, I have seen your post you run a good company, but this makes no sense at all unless there is a buried treasure you found that no one else sees. I really want to believe you but I have seen too much of Eahost as it is. Hard for me to believe anything that has to do with that comapny is for real .

Originally posted by Monte
I will tell you why this does not jive with me. James lost all his customers from Earhost I except for the ones he had sold 5 year plans to that he was stuck with. Tim and him were in business for 2 months max before the bottom fell out. They have lost almost all their servers. They could not have gained that many new clients in that short of time, the ones they did get, would be gone by now with no support no web site etc. If James and Tim still had operational servers with customers on them they would have moved the Earhost site to one of them. Instead they were trying to buy a reseller account themselves to put their site on from insiderhosting. Last time I looked it was on some slow connection somewhere probably being served from Tim's house.

So what did you buy? The name? Not worth a dime a liablity if anything. Customers? As I said they could not have that many left and the ones they do are not sustainable on the plans they are on, you admit that yourself. Servers if they have any they are so far in debt it would not be worth the effort. If you buy Earhost you are also buying all the debt left over from James and Tim.

So this is a deal with no assets and loads of liablity yet we are supposed to believe you made a sweet deal with James and Tim.

I like you, I have seen your post you run a good company, but this makes no sense at all unless there is a buried treasure you found that no one else sees. I really want to believe you but I have seen too much of Eahost as it is. Hard for me to believe anything that has to do with that comapny is for real .


In modernbill there are a pile of plans that are very .... generous I should say. A lot of them have WHT in the name and I am sure if you did a search you would see quite a few unbelieveable deals. I do not think it is fair to those clients to have to deal with what Tim and James have left and I want to make things better for them. As I said I can not instantly merge those customers with me, if there is a large debt on the servers I will work things out with the providers to get things paid off.

The EARhost site was on one of Tim's misc servers that he throws his sites on. If you notice, one of Tim's new endeavors is currently not loading: http://www.pixelgenie.com that is on the same server as the EARhost website.

When I said the plans are unprofitable, they are definately profitable for the way that Tim had things running, 27 average resellers crammed onto one box!!! That is not the way things should be ran, I will make profit but I do not think that it is fair to have it that 27 resellers with a limit of 50,000 websites (that is what they are limited to in WHM) is fair one bit. I want to spread them out as much as possible because the load averages on the servers are up to 3.##

I will slowly get things in order and transition them from EARhost to Flohost. I want to make it an easy thing for the current customers and I will shutdown the EARhost site within the next few months. I have some huge plans in mind for these clients, it is not exactly the company that I am worried about. I know a lot of these clients personally and I am seeing Tim's servers going down right and left.

Believe it, EARhost is in for some big changes because it is going to be phased out totally within the next 6 months. I am glad I started this thread because it is getting me thinking about more and more things I can do. I appreciate all of the feedback and I would like to thank you all. Please keep it coming, talk as much as you want. I want to get everything exposed and out in the open.

If you have any personal grievances with the company EARhost you can get in touch with me and I can help you to resolve them. I am here to stay and I will not skip-out or give up. I would not have taken this on if I knew there was any chance of me not being able to handle it.

Please believe me when I tell you that this has nothing to do with Tim, James or any of that crap. I have heard of guilty by association and I realize that it is easy to pin on someone. If you have anything you want to say to me, you can post it right here. I will listen, please keep it appropriate and friendly, that is all I ask.

I don't believe a word of it, the thread is spam, and not worth a thing.

It took a lot to convince me that having anything to do with James or Tim is just another scam.

The flohost site looks like a Tim deal, it's linked to pixelgenie, which I thought from another thread that is a tim domain.

I don't believe a smack of this spam.

from Haze...OT, I know, but is you . button broken or something?... no, i just have a nervous tick in my ring finger... but is your "r" key broken?...

from flohost...You are opposed to a Senior in High School that is very ambitious about his future and is working very hard for everything he has over an 18 year old junkie that dropped out of high school as soon as he could at the age of 16? wrongo, o young one... i am opposed to decent, hard working, honest people getting screwed out of their time, money and reputations because they have no legal recourse with the "legally disadvantaged"...

...your "junkie speech" went over my head... if you are referring to yourself, and your history, and pulling yourself up from some dark pit, congratulations! i'm happy for you and hope you stay the course... but save that argument for someone who hasn't already been there and done that... your life is heaven compared to what i went through when i was your age, and the history has nothing to do with the law...

...rather than tell me to keep my comments to myself, how about just answering my questions, flo, they are valid questions for any "company", and your response to them will go a long way in developing your image...

... if you don't know the difference between a contract and a "generalization", you are proving my point...

Originally posted by FloHost
Today while I was at school


:emlaugh:

Originally posted by Samuel
I don't believe a word of it, the thread is spam, and not worth a thing.

It took a lot to convince me that having anything to do with James or Tim is just another scam.

The flohost site looks like a Tim deal, it's linked to pixelgenie, which I thought from another thread that is a tim domain.

I don't believe a smack of this spam.


I purchased the layout from Tim. I paid $175 for it.

I don't think anyone here is against you (at least not me), but I really hope that you're not making a bad decision putting your name beside Tim's.

I remember reading that you said that you've got no access to Tim's client records yet, I seriously think you should take a good look, even call up those "on the list" to get a better idea how many clients you are "buying".

In normal business practice, you buy into a money losing business only if ...
- it's got excellent rep, brand name which translates to long-term growth potential
- larger assets than liabilities
- big market share / client base
- certain hidden value like technology, know-hows, etc
where does your deal fit in? Perhaps you might wanna think about that.

I very much agree with what the-muse said. There is only one way to do a business (be it hosting or not), that's the proper and legal way.

And there is nothing wrong in starting at a young age (I did too), the only disadvanage you have got will be a lack of experience. And so the only way to make it up ... is to keep an open mind and listen.

Originally posted by the-muse
... no, i just have a nervous tick in my ring finger... but is your "r" key broken?...

wrongo, o young one... i am opposed to decent, hard working, honest people getting screwed out of their time, money and reputations because they have no legal recourse with the "legally disadvantaged"...

...your "junkie speech" went over my head... if you are referring to yourself, and your history, and pulling yourself up from some dark pit, congratulations! i'm happy for you and hope you stay the course... but save that argument for someone who hasn't already been there and done that... your life is heaven compared to what i went through when i was your age, and the history has nothing to do with the law...

...rather than tell me to keep my comments to myself, how about just answering my questions, flo, they are valid questions for any "company", and your response to them will go a long way in developing your image...

... if you don't know the difference between a contract and a "generalization", you are proving my point...


I never said your questions were invalid, you came across to me in a bad way, you did not present them in a respectable way in my opinion.

You can not say anything about my past because you have no idea, I am not here to judge who had the worse childhood; you can tell that to your shrink. I would appreciate it if you were a bit more couth in your manner toward me. Thank you.

Originally posted by Scroller
I don't think anyone here is against you (at least not me), but I really hope that you're not making a bad decision putting your name beside Tim's.

I remember reading that you said that you've got no access to Tim's client records yet, I seriously think you should take a good look, even call up those "on the list" to get a better idea how many clients you are "buying".

In normal business practice, you buy into a money losing business only if ...
- it's got excellent rep, brand name which translates to long-term growth potential
- larger assets than liabilities
- big market share / client base
- certain hidden value like technology, know-hows, etc
where does your deal fit in? Perhaps you might wanna think about that.

I very much agree with what the-muse said. There is only one way to do a business (be it hosting or not), that's the proper and legal way.

And there is nothing wrong in starting at a young age (I did too), the only disadvanage you have got will be a lack of experience. And so the only way to make it up ... is to keep an open mind and listen.

Thank you scroller for the input. I am not putting my name beside Tim's, on the contrary, I am trying to get EARhost's name away from Tim. I realize people may have a hard time with that but that is what I am going to do.

I would really like to get an answer on these ...

1) Is flohost legally licensed to do business? if so, what is the company name, and from where is the company licensed?

2. Do you file taxes on your hosting income yearly? if i sent a letter of inquiry to the irs, would you have anything to worry about?

from flohost...I purchased the layout from Tim. I paid $175 for it....really? where did tim purchase it?

There may be a pile of them in ModernBill but that does not mean they are still being hosted by Tim and James. I have seen a pile of those customers here in the request forums looking for other host.

I still do not believe there are enough active customers to make this a viable deal .

Sorry but you are a long way from proving this the real deal.

Still have not given one reason to maintan the Earhost name and site at all.

Originally posted by Scroller
I would really like to get an answer on these ...

1) Is flohost legally licensed to do business? if so, what is the company name, and from where is the company licensed?

2. Do you file taxes on your hosting income yearly? if i sent a letter of inquiry to the irs, would you have anything to worry about?

Sure,
1) I have a business license for Flohost Web Services. It is registered in Clatsop County.

2) I do not file taxes as of yet, my grandmother is still in search of an accountant locally that will even bother with my company. It seems as if they do not have faith in someone of my age, they all refuse. I personally do not know anything about taxes and that is what my Grandma is here for, she is a retired book keeper for the school district. My Grandma is a great person, she keeps track of all my assets, how much I owe to people, and my income. She said she will not do my taxes and I have to get an accountant for that. We do not have too many choices in a town of 8,000 people. Yes I would have something to worry about if you sent a letter to the IRS.

Originally posted by the-muse
...really? where did tim purchase it?

I do not know that, as far as I know he pulled it out of his hat.

Originally posted by the-muse
...really? where did tim purchase it?

...looks like it was puchased fum R. K. Raja aka http://www.protinium.net

Originally posted by Monte
There may be a pile of them in ModernBill but that doe snot mean they are still being hosted by Tim and James. I have seen a pile of those cusomers here in the request forums looking for other host.

I still do not believe there are enough active customers to make this a viable deal .

Sorry but you are a long way from proving this the real deal.

Still have not given one reason to maintan the Earhost name and site at all.

I came here requesting support and feedback. If you are not willing to take me for my word I can not do much more for you than that, as far as I can think of.

FloHost:

are you CrAzY? :nuts:

By taking the EARHost name - you are taking on the debt too. you said yourself that none of the plans are profitable - but in the same sentance you said that you arnt going to charge the customers that are left over any more then they are paying now.

you can't get a business license if you don't pay taxes...

Originally posted by the-muse
you can't get a business license if you don't pay taxes...

In Clatsop County, as a business you are required to pay taxes if you sell something physical. Webhosting is not physical however my Grandma tells me it would still be a good idea to pay my taxes.

from Haze......looks like it was puchased fum R. K. Raja aka http://www.protinium.net... i figured as much... so, flohost, did you pay tim $175 for a design that he may in fact did not paid for himself? ...raja says tim owes him money... who knows... maybe tim paid for the design in question...

Originally posted by FloHost


In Clatsop County, as a business you are required to pay taxes if you sell something physical. Webhosting is not physical however my Grandma tells me it would still be a good idea to pay my taxes.

i doubt that

Originally posted by the-muse
... i figured as much... so, flohost, did you pay tim $175 for a design that he may in fact have not paid for himself? ...raja says tim owes him money... who knows... maybe tim paid for the design in question...

Thank you for bringing that up, I am going to get in contact with Raja and ask him if my design is paid for. If not I will pay him for it. I absolutely love it and I am surprised I did not have to pay much more for it.

In Clatsop County, as a business you are required to pay taxes if you sell something physical. Webhosting is not physical however my Grandma tells me it would still be a good idea to pay my taxes. ...clarification... you can not get a business license if you do not pay federal income taxes, or, for that matter, city taxes in some locations as well... you are referring to sales tax, not income tax... to get a business license, you have to be up on your income taxes...

...please don't tell me about things are different in Clatsop County... what is your EIN? ... if i call authorities in Clatsop County tomorrow and give them your EIN, will they tell me they have a legally registered company associated with that EIN?

This world is full of skeptics as far as I can see. It is people like me that get things done. Obviously all that is here at WHT is trouble, that is why I do not make a habit of "hanging out" here. If you are serious about giving me a few words of support and are not out to cause trouble for me or ruin a good thing you can contact me, the information is in my signature. Other than that I am out of here, I do not appreciate the the-muse because he is just an old fart that has no respect for children. Adios people, sorry about those of you who are decent people here at WHT.

I do not come here to start trouble for other people or to get people jumping down my back, I am a decent human being and I should not be threatened, that is a violation of my rights. It is intolerable on my part to have people with such disrespect.

Best Regards,
Travis Rowland


EDIT: Some of you people need to get a life, play a videogame or something because you obviously do not have anything to do. That is why teenagers get in trouble, because they have nothing to do!

Raja posts on this board, quite actively in fact.

But it's beside the point, this is another peice of the tim/james scam, another face, another venture, another load of BS

Take you, and your spam to another planet, finish school and stay away from these spokes (Tim/James)

You're given no proof that they will not be involved other than your word, any interest by them in anything you talk about here is proof that you are on a string, and they will be apart of any scam that comes out of you and this "New" thing you are posting about.

Good luck, I'm not buying it, and anyone that does deserves to end up on the chargeback line.

There will be no support from this community to anyone that has anything to do with the likes of james/tim.

You bought a worthless scammer company, it reflects on you.

Originally posted by FloHost
First off I would like to start by introducing myself. My name is Travis Rowland, I am the owner of Flohost Web Services. I will not post a link as I know it will get deleted.
You knew it was spam.


I want you all to know that I am taking over control of EARhost. There are a lot of good people using it as their webhost and I hate to see it being destroyed by Tim and not to mention James's reputations. My reputation is very sturdy and I am aiming to turn this company around.

My goal is simple, provide cost-effective hosting with excellent support. I am very experienced in both fields, all of my customers at Flohost are satisfied as you can see browsing through the forums. If you like you may contact a few of them directly and ask them what they think of the service and support.
Contacting one of your customers through this board can be considered unethical, and they could consider it spam

I know that EARhost has a very bad reputation due to the previous management and I am going to fix all of that.
Not possible
I know that it may take me awhile but I am prepared for that. I hope that you all are willing to support me in my efforts because this company will no longer have anything to do with Paradise Designs or any of those other companies that are associated with Tim.
You've stated that they will get some profits, they deserve nothing!

I see a bright future and I hope you are all with me in this and can offer your support. I am not doing this as an advertisement
BS, it's an ad
, but only my first step to reform EARhost. I want to clear up the bad reputation and start over again, as I stated before I hope you are all willing to back me up in this.

That is about all that I have to say at the moment on this.

The website is down at the moment because the server that the main site was hosted on is unplugged because Tim is late with the bill :angry: I will get that site moved ASAP

Another something, in the world of Tim:
Today while I was at school there was a minister from back east called the 1-8666-EARHOST number. Since that now redirects to my phone it rang through to my house. It was answered by my mom. It was an angry customer. He was threatening to sue (my mom thought he was talking about me) and turn me in for fraud and she was scared to death. She was crying, I can not believe that Tim can put up with that crap.
My mom pulled me out of school and made me call the guy up and clear things up. I did that and the guy is going to get hosting through EARhost.

Your BS is showing
He is exicited about this new opportunity that I presented to him. That really makes me upset that it happened, but it just goes to show you what goes on if you do not take care of business.

Well, I am very anxious to get this thing on the road and it is exciting that I get to do this. I am honored to help out this company in any way possible.
You are foolish to be honored about having anything to do with them Are you all stuck with your opinions about EARhost or do you think that I can change your minds for you? Please let me know, and if you have any suggestions you can post them here. I am open to constructive criticism.

Best Regards,
Travis Rowland

You've received what I would consider enough information to get away from the deal, and let them die.

Anything else and you are going to be yet another scammer on these boards waiting to lurk like a freaking predator.

from flohost...Thank you for bringing that up, I am going to get in contact with Raja and ask him if my design is paid for. If not I will pay him for it. I absolutely love it and I am surprised I did not have to pay much more for it. ... the act of buying stolen goods is not redeemable by paying the person from whom the goods were stolen... it also shows very poor, immature business sense...from flohost...This world is full of skeptics as far as I can see. It is people like me that get things done. Obviously all that is here at WHT is trouble, that is why I do not make a habit of "hanging out" here. If you are serious about giving me a few words of support and are not out to cause trouble for me or ruin a bad thing you can contact me, the information is in my signature. Other than that I am out of here, I do not appreciate the the-muse because he is just an old fart that has no respect for children. Adios people, sorry about those of you who are decent people here at WHT. ... you are running away most likely because you lied, and you cannot face the realities of business... you probably don't even know what EIN means... (Earhost Is Null)...

...if you post here, don't expect everybody to be "serious about giving you a few words of support..." you asked for opinions... i am serious about giving potential victims as many words of support as they can get from this forum, and from my perspective your responses should be adequate enough to warn the wise... unfortunately there will always be disbelievers, but your responses here have served the purpose of this forum well...

...finally, my advice is for you to be cautious in your written descriptions of your inquisitors... i've been known to follow shady "hosts" to forums in all corners of the web...

Wel so far you have not answered any of the tough questions you skip over them and tell us believe in you.

Sorry we believed in Earhost twice and saw the BS that came of it. If you cannot even give a good reason why you are going to continue the name and web site do not expect us to buy into the BS this time.
Maybe you should go play a video game instead of trying to pull a scam.

And if this is a indication of the type of support the Earhost cunstomers can expect then I pity them even more. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62630&highlight=flohost

Good link Monte, and proves "Like speaks to like"

Anything Flohost has to do with is noted by that link, and having Timpd backing you up then, and you then having anything to do with him now is a conflict of interest in the bull**** detectors on this board.

This thread should stay in tact, flohost should be "Happened off the boards", and earhost should die a quick and painful death.

Hello,
I have to admit Travis is a good guy I have dealt with him in the past and still do deal with him on a normal basic. We're friends and he is a good guy. Travis, does a good job on running the company at his age he has never been unprofessional to me. He has always been like that to me always professional.


__________________
Thanks Tim,
Easy. Affordable.Reliable Host
http://www.earhost.com
Toll Free: You're a client you know it

Enough said....

... i wonder how that url got through the censors?... :dunce:

:confused:

Originally posted by FloHost
This world is full of skeptics as far as I can see. It is people like me that get things done. Obviously all that is here at WHT is trouble, that is why I do not make a habit of "hanging out" here. If you are serious about giving me a few words of support and are not out to cause trouble for me or ruin a good thing you can contact me, the information is in my signature. Other than that I am out of here, I do not appreciate the the-muse because he is just an old fart that has no respect for children. Adios people, sorry about those of you who are decent people here at WHT.

I do not come here to start trouble for other people or to get people jumping down my back, I am a decent human being and I should not be threatened, that is a violation of my rights. It is intolerable on my part to have people with such disrespect.

Best Regards,
Travis Rowland


EDIT: Some of you people need to get a life, play a videogame or something because you obviously do not have anything to do. That is why teenagers get in trouble, because they have nothing to do!

Your personal insults towards the community and this board reflect entirely upon your credibility today.

We are talking about your thread, about Earhost, and you are taking it personally.

Good luck to you (17 year old), I'm 32, your BS is archived on this board, as well as off this board.

...It's popcorn time.

You'd think all webhosts were angry Scotsmen :D

Run a good business Flo, make sure your contracts are backed up by someone of age, and don't forget the three important aspects of youth: Education, Free Love, and Beer.

-Matt

I think perhaps give him a break. You are all being so hard on him. He is clearly trying to do what he can with the situation. I believe him and I wish the guy the best of luck.

He is taking the mature road and asking for advice, telling people the situation. You people are too easy to give someone hell, try being nice to people and giving them a chance - you'll live longer.

I have never talked to this Travis guy but I think he sounds alright. Best of luck with the business and don't listen to the crap from these old synics (sp?)

Too hard?

That entire ilk has done nothing but not follow through, scam at every angle (The victims are still coming out of the woodwork)'

It is quite obvious that flohost does not have the entire understanding of the depth of the victimizing the company he is associating himself with.

As I watched flohost edit his post, it was fraught with immaturity and mistakes (Fruedian type mistakes) that were quickly edited.

While his goal might be in hearnest, I do not beleive he has the entire depth of the situation, nor is able to adequetley make amends.

It will turn into another debacle,. time will prove that.

I'm 32

:) Me too :D

OK, this is definitely spam.. Tim and James have to be behind this, has the IP of Flohost been checked? Near Canada or KentuckY?

I don't buy any of this at all - There is absolutely no gain to be made at all by marketing the Earhost name at all - Anyone (almost anyone) can see that as clear as mud :D

Flohost.. if you are legit.. you just admitted to not paying taxes and a lot more besides.. you are not a viable option.. you could not bring a dead company alive if you tried, especially earhost./

So were you going to pay all their debts off too?
Get real, you will be in debt right from the outset... how long would it take to trade out of it? You are :-

A: A bad business man (who doesn't pay taxes.. so yes)
B: Posting to promote Tim and James
C: Misled (By Tim or James.. my moneys on Tim)

Which is it?

I can't believe anyone who would buy even a bar of this story at all.. perhaps I've got too may grey hairs to be sucked in by it all.. it never ceases to amaze me :)

Originally posted by Dotcomsnz
I can't believe anyone who would buy even a bar of this story at all.. perhaps I've got too may grey hairs to be sucked in by it all.. it never ceases to amaze me :)
You're just an old fogey. Back to the rocking chair with you!! :D ;) :stickout

Originally posted by Dotcomsnz


:) Me too :D

OK, this is definitely spam.. Tim and James have to be behind this, has the IP of Flohost been checked? Near Canada or KentuckY?

I don't buy any of this at all - There is absolutely no gain to be made at all by marketing the Earhost name at all - Anyone (almost anyone) can see that as clear as mud :D

Flohost.. if you are legit.. you just admitted to not paying taxes and a lot more besides.. you are not a viable option.. you could not bring a dead company alive if you tried, especially earhost./

So were you going to pay all their debts off too?
Get real, you will be in debt right from the outset... how long would it take to trade out of it? You are :-

A: A bad business man (who doesn't pay taxes.. so yes)
B: Posting to promote Tim and James
C: Misled (By Tim or James.. my moneys on Tim)

Which is it?

I can't believe anyone who would buy even a bar of this story at all.. perhaps I've got too may grey hairs to be sucked in by it all.. it never ceases to amaze me :)

How dare you make such a statement? How do you know he is not paying off the debts? How are we sure YOU are paying YOUR taxes? Stop grilling other people and handle your business buddy. Travis is trying his best to do what he can and if you visit his website you'll see he isn't some fly-by-night company that doesnt give a rat about his customers.

I wish you people would get a clue and realize what he truly trying to do. Bring a company with a bad rep. back. There is no more Tim no more James so get a grip.

Remember, 6 months from now if you ever need anything and he is the only person you can really turn to about what you said tonight. Just give the guy a chance.

Ya know, all he needed to do was take the customers, offer them the same deal, and let them endless happy customers flow into here how he saved them from the ilk at earhost.

No, he instead wants to support an already banned, and obvious defunt company.

The comments are valid by dotcomz, and Jam, believe it, there is something behind this he isn't stating

How dare you make such a statement? How do you know he is not paying off the debts? How are we sure YOU are paying YOUR taxes? Stop grilling other people and handle your business buddy. Travis is trying his best to do what he can and if you visit his website you'll see he isn't some fly-by-night company that doesnt give a rat about his customers.

I wish you people would get a clue and realize what he truly trying to do. Bring a company with a bad rep. back. There is no more time no more James so get a grip.

Remember, 6 months from now if you ever need anything and he is the only person you can really turn to about what you said tonight. Just give the guy a chance.

Sorry Buddy, I aint buying it.. you can check our company registration number out anytime... however Flohosts.. you can't..

People need to realise that some are legitimate companies and some are not.. Flohost unfortunately based on his admissions is NOT...

Thats how I dare.. Thank you :)

And Buddy

I wish you people would get a clue and realize what he truly trying to do. Bring a company with a bad rep. back

is a waste of time .. cos there is nothing to bring back but a bad reputation.. better to absorb the clients into his company with no bad rep :)

Hi,

I am a former TimPD net user ... got ripped off. Travis, after talking to him on MSN, paid off the debt Tim owed me, no questions asked.

I have it sitting in my paypal, I wasn't around for the EARHost thing, I left pd.net about 2-3 months ago, however I think paying people money he doesn't know shows the following:

1) He's attempting to actually turn around that company
2) He obviously cares, would you send people you don't know $$?
3) He's trying to keep his reputation good, regardless if he does now deal with EARhost.com

Seriously, what does age matter? I have you know, I've been ripped off by far more older adults then the younger. Perhaps because I'm 20, you might say I'm incompotent of being a good business man, or paying my bills on time. Who are you to judge _anyone_ based on their age? Why don't act yours and realize this isn't school, no need to be stereotypically.

He's attempting to actually turn around that company

Why? :)

How much did you get Darktides?

Im confused by all this. If you bought Earhost from them, why did I receive this email from Tim a day or two ago?


Hello Guys & Gals, EARHost isn't dropped dead and we're still alive as ever and will continue to be. EARHost.com the server the zone file is on is currently experiencing problems which results in problems with that. We're not dead and have a bright future ahead of us and continue to provide quality service and support. All Support helpdesk can be reached at http://helpdesk.earhost.net and myself email is tim@earhost.net and James will be contactable at james@earhost.net our site is accessable at http://earhost.net and http://earhost.biz For those that are worried EARHost hasn't gone anywhere, If you're unable to access those at the present time please give us a little time today and things will work.

Thanks Tim,
EARHOST Generated by EARHost.com.:. Client Billing System [3.1.1:TZ]


This was sent to me as I was a customer previous to all of this crap.

I'm just going to get some popcorn and watch the show. *crunch*

Whew weee... I smell a buncha bull poopie! ^_^

Good luck but you've probabbly got a few thousand worth of bills to pay off with all of those servers which you LEGALLY bought when you took the company, asuming there's even a legal piece of paper saying you bought the company....

I can't quite tell if I smell fish or sh*t... or is it both?

This is turning out to be a *Mods Please close this thread*

LOL... Hi TIM, HI James , how are you?

I can't quite tell if I smell fish or sh*t... or is it both?

Definitely both Daniel :D

Originally posted by Dotcomsnz
This is turning out to be a *Mods Please close this thread*

LOL... Hi TIM, HI James , how are you?

Not sure if you are implying he's Tim or James, but if you haven't noticed Tim's grammar isn't that all up to par.

You're just an old fogey. Back to the rocking chair with you!!

Yeah, Im going to post a picture on the site just like you do Bob.. Just to scare the casual browsers away :) LOL

Not sure if you are implying he's Tim or James, but if you haven't noticed Tim's grammar isn't that all up to par.

No .. I'll explain.. Tim or James are probably watching this thread, even if they are not actively taking part.. :D Too subtle for you?

Originally posted by Dotcomsnz
Yeah, Im going to post a picture on the site just like you do Bob.. Just to scare the casual browsers away :) LOL
:D:agree: :blush:

Originally posted by Jamrover

Remember, 6 months from now if you ever need anything and he is the only person you can really turn to about what you said tonight. Just give the guy a chance.

LOL.. I missed that one..

Buddy..

My company has been trading, filed tax returns and held annual general meetings twice over... Earhost has been here a dogwatch and failed .. twice.. and then someone buys it.. I'm sorry if I'm sceptical but I know what I see and read and can understand business much more than you can obviously.

That wasn't a flame.. merely an observation ...Buddy :)

6 months is time enough to rue the day earhost was revived.

Good luck Travis, but I really think you should consider bombing out on that company, supporting the customers outside of that entity, and be a hero by offering them direct help through Flohost.

Yeah, keep Flohost as flohost... the rest just don't cut the mustard.. Find a new mustard cutter for new companies and expansion.. and file those taxes :)

Originally posted by Dotcomsnz
Originally posted by Jamrover



LOL.. I missed that one..

Buddy..

My company has been trading, filed tax returns and held annual general meetings twice over... Earhost has been here a dogwatch and failed .. twice.. and then someone buys it.. I'm sorry if I'm sceptical but I know what I see and read and can understand business much more than you can obviously.

That wasn't a flame.. merely an observation ...Buddy :)

Well I'm glad you can find the time to bash someone else who is trying...."Buddy"

Originally posted by Samuel
6 months is time enough to rue the day earhost was revived.

Good luck Travis, but I really think you should consider bombing out on that company, supporting the customers outside of that entity, and be a hero by offering them direct help through Flohost.

Okay I will spill the beans as to what I am doing really.

I help Tim out with customers and I offered to take over EARhost. He agreed and gave me root access to all of the servers and everything, including the paypal account with a negative balance! After I got access to everything I changed all of the root passwords. I then proceeded to call the data center where Tim has some of his servers. Those servers are shut off at the moment because Tim did not pay his bill. The guy there knows me and feels sorry for all of Tim's clients as do I. Well, our plan is simple. Get in contact with the other data centers, explain to them what is going on and we will then have the servers turned back on and have root access to them. After we do that we will change the passwords on all of them. I am paying everyone back that Tim owes money to, I am going to do this slowly and work out deals with the separate people that he owes. I am hi-jacking his company, equipment, clients, assets, everything because I am sick of watching him take advantage of people. This guy at the data center that I talked to, we are closely acquainted now and he is going to assist me in this. Together we are going to make this work. We are going to pay off all debts and merge everything into Flohost.

I did not want to say any of that earlier for fear of Tim or someone close to him finding out. I have gained Tim's trust over the months and he considers me one of his friends and he trusts me. I am now backstabbing him (I hate to put it that way but that is it) and saving everyone from him. I want things set right and I am hoping that this will take care of all the loose ends involved. I now know for sure that I have the support behind me to make this all work so I am doing a hostile takeover of his company. Yes, I am very excited about this and I am staying home from school today. I want to get this all sorted out as soon as possible.

Please, if you have anything to say please let me know. What I have told you is no lie and I am 100% honest. I will answer any and all inquiries as long as you do not appear to be doing it to harm me in any way. I want to help these poor people because they have been wronged and this money is not going to come from nowhere. If you saw all of the **** involved you would get sick, it is outrageous that someone could do this. I personally am tired of it and I want to take action!

The God's honest truth, no lies. I will tell you anything you want to know.

Sincerely,
Travis Rowland

I'm just going to get some popcorn and watch the show. *crunch*

But Buddy...you came in with such a hiss and a roar.. don't sit back.. have your say if you have anything intelligent to say :)

Travis, if you are true, god be with you man, if you are being honest, you have a heavy tow to hold.

Being in that situation isn't going to be easy, but might just turn out to be beneficial to the scammed, and the hero.

Good luck =)

Tim Just saw your post Flohost... I aint sure I buy it even now though.. too many changed stories mean LIES usually.

You've got a long road ahead of you, I hope you haven't jeopardised your reputation on the bad twins reputation.. good luck :)

Earhost i am afraid is dead around here for a long time :(

Well I'm glad you can find the time to bash someone else who is trying...."Buddy"

No bashing.. buddy (you called me Buddy first.. just returning the compliment :) )

Get your info straight before attacking.. I posted purely on what I read, you however posted on what you thought :)

Think before you type next time... Buddy :)

Hmm....

Doesn't file taxes, but says he has a business license...

'CEO.Owner - travis@flohost.com '

Funny how someone who doesn't/can't file taxes and only said he has a business license is a CEO...

Also, I didn't think a minor could be a CEO of a company :D

Hmm....

Doesn't file taxes, but says he has a business license...

'CEO.Owner - travis@flohost.com '

Funny how someone who doesn't/can't file taxes and only said he has a business license is a CEO...

Also, I didn't think a minor could be a CEO of a company


Yep, so all the people in the same boat as him post and stick up for him... thats the way I see it .. Doing themselves no favours in the credibility stakes IMHO

Well if it's true that he is connected (Heard that before), and is actively taking over the company by sucking the accounts from the upstream vendors I would be interested in now hearing from those vendors as the apparent "Cat" is out of the bag.

So, that is what would be interesting now, hrmmmm

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If you buy Earhost you are also buying all the debt left over from James and Tim.
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First a response to the above comment. If you buy a business you ARE NOT buying their debt, unless.....
1. You agree in writing to acquire that debt. Even if you do that, the person who is owed money still has no legal remedy to sue you for something you never signed for (with them) in the first place.
2. You buy a corporation. When buying a corporation you are buying all of that companies assets and liabilities, etc.

NOW....for my comment...

Why is it that everyone on this board just seems to want to bash others? Are you all so insecure about your own business plans that you have to just bash others?

If someone wants to buy a failing, money losing business, why should any of you care? Why do you care what his age is?

If you're a customer who has been damaged by FloHost (notice I said FloHost, and not EarHost) then YOU have a right to comment or be unhappy maybe.

I would think EarHost customers would be happy at the possibility of maybe getting some service for which they have paid. In my mind if they want refunds, then that is up to Tim of James.

I think most of you guys (and gals), just need to lighten up and run your own businesses, and stop trying to run everyone else's.

Just my .02

Originally posted by EzHost
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NOW....for my comment...

Why is it that everyone on this board just seems to want to bash others? Are you all so insecure about your own business plans that you have to just bash others?

If someone wants to buy a failing, money losing business, why should any of you care? Why do you care what his age is?

If you're a customer who has been damaged by FloHost (notice I said FloHost, and not EarHost) then YOU have a right to comment or be unhappy maybe.

I would think EarHost customers would be happy at the possibility of maybe getting some service for which they have paid. In my mind if they want refunds, then that is up to Tim of James.

I think most of you guys (and gals), just need to lighten up and run your own businesses, and stop trying to run everyone else's.

Just my .02

:)

Originally posted by EzHost
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If you buy Earhost you are also buying all the debt left over from James and Tim.
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First a response to the above comment. If you buy a business you ARE NOT buying their debt, unless.....
1. You agree in writing to acquire that debt. Even if you do that, the person who is owed money still has no legal remedy to sue you for something you never signed for (with them) in the first place.
2. You buy a corporation. When buying a corporation you are buying all of that companies assets and liabilities, etc.

NOW....for my comment...

Why is it that everyone on this board just seems to want to bash others? Are you all so insecure about your own business plans that you have to just bash others?

If someone wants to buy a failing, money losing business, why should any of you care? Why do you care what his age is?

If you're a customer who has been damaged by FloHost (notice I said FloHost, and not EarHost) then YOU have a right to comment or be unhappy maybe.

I would think EarHost customers would be happy at the possibility of maybe getting some service for which they have paid. In my mind if they want refunds, then that is up to Tim of James.

I think most of you guys (and gals), just need to lighten up and run your own businesses, and stop trying to run everyone else's.

Just my .02

That's the best post I have read :)

NOW....for my comment...

Why is it that everyone on this board just seems to want to bash others? Are you all so insecure about your own business plans that you have to just bash others?

If someone wants to buy a failing, money losing business, why should any of you care? Why do you care what his age is?

If you're a customer who has been damaged by FloHost (notice I said FloHost, and not EarHost) then YOU have a right to comment or be unhappy maybe.

I would think EarHost customers would be happy at the possibility of maybe getting some service for which they have paid. In my mind if they want refunds, then that is up to Tim of James.

I think most of you guys (and gals), just need to lighten up and run your own businesses, and stop trying to run everyone else's.

Just my .02

Write that after school buddy?

Business is serious for those in it.. for you guys it's not quite the same :D

I would think EarHost customers would be happy at the possibility of maybe getting some service for which they have paid. In my mind if they want refunds, then that is up to Tim of James.

NOPE, just contact FLOHOST now for your refunds, as they seem to have taken over things....... :D

I would love to hear from all those customers of Earhost you are going to save, because I do not believe they have that many if any left.

I am sure if there is any they will all be happy to know their new host took the day off school to save them.

Hello,

This is becoming so common on WHT that people enjoy bashing each other. It's really shame, BIG Shame. !!!

Especially there are some rude members around ! Even if you haven't asked their opinion they just try to post something, to bash you.

If anyone has given a good comment(s) about you or your company, they whether call it spam or they say:

- Did they offer you to post this on WHT for one month free hosting?
- How much they paid you ?
- Do you have any personal experience with them ?
- A mod can reply to your comment. Chicken where are you !
- Wrong Forum
- SPAM ... So Baaad

All childish comments, just to increase your number of posts ?


Even.... If someone post something like " Be Aware of blab host " they say yeah be aware, I have read lots of bad comments... there are lots of other good hosts there.

The funny thing is that their signature is right under their post !

C'mon people ! WHT is turning to be the second mIRC ! Stop it.

Dotcomsnz

Actually no, I've been out of School since 1977, and out of college since 1981. I own a retail business, and a web hosting business with real honest to goodness physical locations. All "liscensed", and willing to prove it. Have filed taxes on all of my earnings, and have nothing to hide.

I doubt anything I say here will be believed though....so....."So Be It"

Dotcomsnz

Actually no, I've been out of School since 1977, and out of college since 1981. I own a retail business, and a web hosting business with real honest to goodness physical locations. All "liscensed", and willing to prove it. Have filed taxes on all of my earnings, and have nothing to hide.

I doubt anything I say here will be believed though....so....."So Be It"

Yeah good on ya.. so what?

I never asked or insinuated your involvement... Hmm :)

Like I said good on ya :)

Dotcomsnz

Actually no, I've been out of School since 1977, and out of college since 1981. I own a retail business, and a web hosting business with real honest to goodness physical locations. All "liscensed", and willing to prove it. Have filed taxes on all of my earnings, and have nothing to hide.

I doubt anything I say here will be believed though....so....."So Be It"


Sounds prfect.. why even think about these scammers... you obviously have a good online biz and know what you are doing :)\

WELL DONE!!!!

Dotcomsnz

Actually no, I've been out of School since 1977, and out of college since 1981. I own a retail business, and a web hosting business with real honest to goodness physical locations. All "liscensed", and willing to prove it. Have filed taxes on all of my earnings, and have nothing to hide.

I doubt anything I say here will be believed though....so....."So Be It"


You should of course learn to deal with whatever life brings you .. and if not move on... :-=)

Good luck all

Write that after school buddy?

Business is serious for those in it.. for you guys it's not quite the same

Yeah good on ya.. so what?

I never asked or insinuated your involvement... Hmm

Like I said good on ya

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I was commenting on your comments about me writing this after school.

Anyhow I have a business to run....I'll let our comments speak for themselves. This will be my last post on this topic, so you can even have the last word.

You remind me of a politician who has no platform (business plan) of his own to run on, so you must sling mud.

For me I'll concentrate on my own business, and not worry about how others run theirs. I wish others on here would take my advice and do the same.

My previous comments were based on the law, and not just something I made up.

I didn't want to post anything, but EzHost got me thinking.

I think the main conversation here is _why_ FloHost is willing to shell out all the cash for virtually nothing in return. There are a couple of things that I am concerned about:

- Even though Travis is strongly denying it, it seems very likely that Tim and possibly James are still on-board and Travis is just saying "no." Someone posted an email from Tim a couple of pages back that casts doubt on the whole thing. Now, if this is true, this means EARHost will continue to function as it did before with the same dynamic duo, except the front man is now Travis instead of James. Anyone recall James doing almost the exact same thing Travis is doing? Only he _started_ a business, plus he was forthcoming about Tim (and he was hesitant too). He was strong-willed about paying back all of Tim's debts and blah blah. I could almost buy that, but their prices kept me from buying anything they said. In the end it died and now James is banned from here.

Now, you have Travis with a barely-established company wanting to do virtually the same exact thing, except now he denies Tim and James being involved, even after Tim sent out that email to EARHost customers (apparently); and continued to use the word "we." Nothing about the company being sold, being taken over, whatever you want to call it. So now Travis steps in, hero of the month, and says he's going to pay the debts of Tim AND EARHost! Holy cow. What does he get in return? The EARHost name, maybe some dedicated servers (read: no assets), and some customers whose revenue won't pay for much (based on EARHost's pricing). How in the world could that be a good business move? Showing good faith? Perhaps, and I can live with that (which is why I haven't said anything yet). But I don't think that is what is happening.

- My second concern comes with FloHost itself. They say they are licensed in Clatsop County, but do not file taxes because Travis' grandmother says they don't have to since they don't sell tangible items. Now I know they are confused with sales tax, but doesn't that tell anyone anything about Travis and FloHost? We are registered with the state of Florida and we have an EIN. We pay taxes. We deal with accountants, all the paperwork, the hassles of doing everything legally. Does anyone think it's right to knowingly allow another company to operate illegally just because they're 17 or just because they are ignorant to the law? I surely don't. We pay good money to stay in business and obey the law. I don't think it's right that FloHost does not (or any other company, I'm sure lots of them don't do it). And for this reason, I will speak out and I will contact the proper authorities to have businesses investigated.

I could care less if FloHost is a competitor of ours (which I don't consider them to be). It's not that I'm sour towards competitors and bash them to make our company look good. In fact, I help many other hosting companies when they have problems (join me on whirc or read my posts here as examples). There's enough of the market to go around. So before anyone accuses me of bashing FloHost or Earhost or Travis or James or Tim, re-read this post. My intent is to uncover possible frauds because fraud hurts everyone -- companies and customers alike. If you are a FloHost customer or friendly, re-read my reasoning behind thinking of possible fraud in this post before attacking me. Things don't add up and stories change, and when that happens, there's something going on in the background that probably isn't right.

out of popcorn again.... :angry:

Here you go OKIHost.

... Hands popcorn

They (EarHost) still havn`t paid me for the design they`re using. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by FloHost


My mom pulled me out of school and made me call the guy up and clear things up.



LOL, no offense but that part just cracks me up


Gets out the popcorn and beer. This time ordering a pizza!

Welcome to fantasy island.

from darktidesNET...Seriously, what does age matter?...you're willingness to defend "the underdog" is admirable... but i feel you don't understand the age issue... age, any age, from my perspective, doesn't necessarily have to mean incompetence...

...but under legal age always means it will be impossible for me to have any legal recourse if i end up on the sucker end of a "deal"...

...i was as capable when i was 14 as i am now in certain regards... i was honest then, and am honest now... but i was still not valid as a legal entity... i am now.

...all of you "kids"... please understand that concept... if you can't handle it, try to get the legal age changed...

..."business", by its very nature has ironclad rules and standards... you may think it's okay to just call yourself a "company" and set up shop on the web without having to report to any governmental agency... you can't get away with that with an offline business, nor should you be able to online, just because "you know how"...

...a big part of "business" is legal accountability...:dunce:

do a whois on flosupport.net !!!!!!!!!!!! its owned by tim@p a r a d i s e-d e s i g n s.net!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So are you going to stick to your words and say tim has nothing to do with you?

Hi FloHost,

First of all...let me say...YOU GOT BALLS. And over the coming months you are going to need those balls.

I am testament to the fact that you can be a pirah on these forums one week...and then flavour of the month the next. So stick to your guns. If you do right by your customers the way you have said you do right by your existing customers...then the pathetic flame brigade have nothing to say.

I personally wish you the best of luck...but don't be too polite to the leaches...you know..the ones that have no life of their own...the serial flammers. They deserve a good backlash....Oh...they will cry that you are harming your business by being horrible to them....DO NOT WORRY about that...nobody actually gives a damn. Infact..most reasonable people are just pleased you told the silly little children off.

Anyway...Good luck...you are going to need it.

Simon

Why would that crack you up? His mom was probably rightfully worried about getting sued.

Most parents don't know what their kids are doing on the computer, so it probably came to a surprise to her that her kid is running any sort of business.

As for admining a network at school, might it be that you are admining a network setup in a network class? I can't imagine any highschool enslaving a student to do a real admin job most of the day. Teachers have unions, I doubt they would tolerate a student doing a job that a teacher or another union staffmember could do.

There's also the question about a network admin having access and control of grades and stuff. :)

Good thread, bravo!
-WC- :bawling:

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from WildCard...Why would that crack you up? His mom was probably rightfully worried about getting sued....even if it's true, it's another questionable "event" in flohost's series of "100% honest" explanations...

...the mental image of "mommy" coming to school, telling my principal "i don't care about your damn servers! i don't even care if travis learns anything in this damn school! i'm taking travis home so he can call the minister [or "preacher", as travis later calls him] and get him off my back! i know my travis! he'll sweet talk that minister into signing right up!"...

...yes, i find that image does sort of "crack me up"... but i can see how it might not be too funny to someone who believes the story...PREVIEWS OF COMING ATTRACTIONS:...the minister posts here preaching that he is now a "born again ear"...

Lets hope i dont get in anyones bad books. This whole thread reflects on the attitudes of many very ignorant people. This guy has asked for an opinion and not a war of words, i always liked people from the US because of their easy going attitudes to life, i now feel this only relates to people living in florida. You dont see people bickering this much in the uk lol. Im sure this flame thread will carry on as it looks like alot of people have plenty time on their hands.

He asked for opinions.
He got opinions.

That's what happens on a public forum.
If you ask the forum what they think; they will likely tell you.

And Jamesaspey, this forum is forgiving when it sees true sincere effort. Everything related to Earhost has pushed people to get to this level, and rightfully so.

Everytime one of these fly-by-night companies run off with the dough, or if they become overwhelmed and decide to ditch, we get flooded with the complaint threads, the 'wheres my host??' or 'Waaa, my life is over because my $1 a month host left me!'.

There are so many people here that run serious hosting companies, with 1 to 20,000 customers. Then there's the people that look at it like a hobby or a scam. The people being the hardest here are serious hosters. The people that are complaining about the flaming seem to be light posters(inferring new to board) or young sounding hosts (inferring immaturity).

And SWR is right, he asked for opinions, he got them.

Realistically, he should have let Earhost die and offer a refugee plan for earhost people if they switch to his company. He could have done it, he admits he has root access to the servers and has access to modernbill. Would have been easy and probably very appreciated to anyone of the remaining customers.

As for still having customers, I am sure there is a handful left. There's people still waiting for Cyberwings to reactivate their account... :bawling: :eek:

-WC-

If you are close friends with Tim, you would know he has another Username and posts here frequently still...

and the saga continues, Travis doesn't seem to appreciate and take heed from anyone else's opinions yet his initial post was asking for the very same opinions he's getting.

I've just finished havign an AIM convo with him, which ended up with him blocking me, for absolutely no reason. The curse of "Timaaaaaaaay" lingers.....

FloSupport: Hey whatsup?
FloSupport: I saw your post, thanks for your support.
F A Z E L 3: lol you really put your foot on it
F A Z E L 3: I was about to post defending you
FloSupport: At one point in time I trusted Tim.
F A Z E L 3: a few days ago what you were doing with Flohost looked really good
FloSupport: Just you wait and see, I am stealing all of Tim's companies, equipment, clients, everything.
F A Z E L 3: he doesn't have any equipment, just rented stuff
FloSupport: I did not "hack" the servers, I contacted the data centers and they are turning the servers over to me because I have promised payment.
FloSupport: There are still customers on that equipment, eventually I am getting everything transfered to Atlanta on my servers.
FloSupport: Currently most of his servers are down, and I am working to get those back up.
F A Z E L 3: well you could simply have bought dedicated servers instead of buying Tim's servers if you wanted to increase your serverfarm
FloSupport: No, I need to pay the bills first
FloSupport: to get the servers up
FloSupport: so I can get the clients off
FloSupport: they will not plug them in unless they see money
FloSupport: you will see
FloSupport: you are all wrong
F A Z E L 3: that means to take over his customers, you're paying off his debts
FloSupport: lol
FloSupport: yes I am paying off his debts
F A Z E L 3: Travis, James/Tim's business model was to make sales, not offer a service
FloSupport: exactly
FloSupport: and I am offering those clients service
F A Z E L 3: as long as they had an income coming in from the sales, they didn't care if they couldn't offer the service
FloSupport: the service that they paid for
F A Z E L 3: so their pricing was totally unrealistic
FloSupport: I know htat
FloSupport: I know all about it
FloSupport: moreso than you
F A Z E L 3: how can you afford to buy EarHost which has a bad reputation, unsustainable business model?
FloSupport: I am not buying it lol
FloSupport: you did not read everything
FloSupport: I am stealing it all from him
F A Z E L 3: it's in debt from day one, you're paying what they owe to people, and all you're getting is low quality clients... I don't know how much your paying per/gig, but it sounds very unprofitable if they have servers packed with sites that have
FloSupport: well I am going to block you because you are so full of support
FloSupport: dont ask me for anything in the future
F A Z E L 3: don't block me
F A Z E L 3: i'm asking you to be realistic
Previous message was not received by FloSupport because of error: User FloSupport is not available.

Originally posted by FloHost
First off I would like to start by introducing myself. My name is Travis Rowland, I am the owner of Flohost Web Services. I will not post a link as I know it will get deleted. If you do a search through WHT you will see that there are not any problems with the Flohost service, and if there was they were addressed very quickly.

I want you all to know that I am taking over control of EARhost. There are a lot of good people using it as their webhost and I hate to see it being destroyed by Tim and not to mention James's reputations. My reputation is very sturdy and I am aiming to turn this company around.

My goal is simple, provide cost-effective hosting with excellent support. I am very experienced in both fields, all of my customers at Flohost are satisfied as you can see browsing through the forums. If you like you may contact a few of them directly and ask them what they think of the service and support.

I know that EARhost has a very bad reputation due to the previous management and I am going to fix all of that. I know that it may take me awhile but I am prepared for that. I hope that you all are willing to support me in my efforts because this company will no longer have anything to do with Paradise Designs or any of those other companies that are associated with Tim.

I see a bright future and I hope you are all with me in this and can offer your support. I am not doing this as an advertisement, but only my first step to reform EARhost. I want to clear up the bad reputation and start over again, as I stated before I hope you are all willing to back me up in this.

That is about all that I have to say at the moment on this.

The website is down at the moment because the server that the main site was hosted on is unplugged because Tim is late with the bill :angry: I will get that site moved ASAP

Another something, in the world of Tim:
Today while I was at school there was a minister from back east called the 1-8666-EARHOST number. Since that now redirects to my phone it rang through to my house. It was answered by my mom. It was an angry customer. He was threatening to sue (my mom thought he was talking about me) and turn me in for fraud and she was scared to death. She was crying, I can not believe that Tim can put up with that crap. My mom pulled me out of school and made me call the guy up and clear things up. I did that and the guy is going to get hosting through EARhost. He is exicited about this new opportunity that I presented to him. That really makes me upset that it happened, but it just goes to show you what goes on if you do not take care of business.

Well, I am very anxious to get this thing on the road and it is exciting that I get to do this. I am honored to help out this company in any way possible. Are you all stuck with your opinions about EARhost or do you think that I can change your minds for you? Please let me know, and if you have any suggestions you can post them here. I am open to constructive criticism.

Best Regards,
Travis Rowland


1. You can now become EarFlo :D
2. The minister was angry because the phone number contained "666" :D:D:D

Originally posted by FloHost


In Clatsop County, as a business you are required to pay taxes if you sell something physical. Webhosting is not physical however my Grandma tells me it would still be a good idea to pay my taxes.

No offense but I find the statement amusing.
Why did you pay for EarHost anyway? Just get FamilyMattersHosting.com and ask your Grandma to be the CFO :D

Wow, i just wasted too much time reading this thread. :look:
*never returning*

Ah well, back to work.

:beer:

seriously i think samuel is a big idiot, please leave travis some breathing space, give him a chance, flohost hasn't ripped anyone off, so whats with the acusations of travis, he hasn't done anything wrong, so just give the guy a chance

seriously i think samuel is a big idiot, please leave travis some breathing space, give him a chance, flohost hasn't ripped anyone off, so whats with the acusations of travis, he hasn't done anything wrong, so just give the guy a chance

Yet another post from someone who really can't see the woods for the trees unfortunately :-)

The people that are complaining about the flaming seem to be light posters(inferring new to board) or young sounding hosts (inferring immaturity).

Who the hell do you think you are? you don't know me and i dont't know you, lets keep it that way. this is exactly my point and your stubborn attitude has proved my comments my friend.
I think i might do something constructive today. how about you?

If you buy Earhost you are also buying all the debt left over from James and Tim.
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First a response to the above comment. If you buy a business you ARE NOT buying their debt, unless.....
1. You agree in writing to acquire that debt. Even if you do that, the person who is owed money still has no legal remedy to sue you for something you never signed for (with them) in the first place.
2. You buy a corporation. When buying a corporation you are buying all of that companies assets and liabilities, etc.

NOW....for my comment...

Why is it that everyone on this board just seems to want to bash others? Are you all so insecure about your own business plans that you have to just bash others?

If someone wants to buy a failing, money losing business, why should any of you care? Why do you care what his age is?

If you're a customer who has been damaged by FloHost (notice I said FloHost, and not EarHost) then YOU have a right to comment or be unhappy maybe.

I would think EarHost customers would be happy at the possibility of maybe getting some service for which they have paid. In my mind if they want refunds, then that is up to Tim of James.

I think most of you guys (and gals), just need to lighten up and run your own businesses, and stop trying to run everyone else's.

Just my .02

Yep, another who doesn't have a clue about life... EARHOST are BAD NEWS for everyone.. ask their clients :mad:


Who the hell do you think you are? you don't know me and i dont't know you, lets keep it that way. this is exactly my point and your stubborn attitude has proved my comments my friend.
I think i might do something constructive today. how about you?

and yet another :eek:

Don't tar me with the same brush.

Earhost ripped people off.

Flohost is now connected to TIM and James.

Travis told lies on this forum.

How much clearer does this have to be? :eek:

Don't tar me with the same brush.

Well if you post the same tar, then expect to be connected with it :)

I dont really think they are though, it looks like hes trying to revive a company which isnt a bad thing, i hate people getting ripped off like any other person would, but as travis isnt actually the one who ripped anyone off, i think he should at least be given a chance.

I dont really think they are though, it looks like hes trying to revive a company which isnt a bad thing, i hate people getting ripped off like any other person would, but as travis isnt actually the one who ripped anyone off, i think he should at least be given a chance


He doesn't pay taxes, he lied on this forum, he's connected to TIM and James..... c'mon... This isn't rocket science.

How can you say give them a chance... If they were cats then they get 9 lives... TIMS used those up at least twice over.. yes flohost is now connected to TIM.. so thats valid.

Again.. taking over earhost will do flohost no favours.. I can't see the logic at all.. perhaps that needs spelling out to me.

:eek:

Ill let you get on with it lol. Places to go, people to see

So which is it Travis?


A, B or C ?

:D

Ill let you get on with it lol. Places to go, people to see

If that's all the input you'll have, why post drivvle in the first place?

Lets get to the fact.. earhost are banned and for good reason.. end of story.. flohost now wants to promote earhost.. so they should be banned too..

Ill let you get on with it lol. Places to go, people to see

Hence i said the above. Can't you read before questioning others?

Hence i said the above. Can't you read before questioning others?

Like I said, nothing to add to the community, ducking out because you are wrong and have no arguement... your posts have been full of nothingness.. and speculation... or are you Tim?

:eek: Quality Uk Hosting - hmm seems timmy lives in the UK. Looks like its you posting the useless twonk and not me, accusing me of being timmy is the lowest of the low.

twas a joke LOL

Perhaps you need to read every post with a pinch of salt :)

Anyway, thought you had better things to do? :D

Yup, been to the bank, kettle boiled, jobs a good un

Yup, been to the bank, kettle boiled, jobs a good un

So did you have anything constructive to say?

You asked what i was doing, i believe i told you? im sure you will correct me whatever the outcome of this message:D

You asked what i was doing, i believe i told you? im sure you will correct me whatever the outcome of this message

I am not at all interested in what you are doing.. just why you choose to post and stick up for people who carry out fraud on other folk.

If you continue to post and stick up for fraudsters, then you are tarred with the same brush.... or hadn't you noticed that? :)

Hey,

earhost, TIMPD, James are all frauds... what are we discussing?
Flohost in his absence, has declared he owns earhost now (what a bad decision) You really can't expect sympathy Travis, just hostility.. especialy as you didn't tell the wht folk the real story from the outset.. you lied (and I think you are being led by tim), deny that and prove it if you can... you have chosen a bad route to stardom IMHO :)
Anyone who posts against that is as bad as they are... period !

Im sorry but we are most deffinately a very honest business so dont cut that crap . Stardom? in a forum? you must be kidding right? Honesty is our main policy dont you dare brand us otherwise, jees get a life will you.

Im sorry but we are most deffinately a very honest business so dont cut that crap . Stardom? in a forum? you must be kidding right? Honesty is our main policy dont you dare brand us otherwise, jees get a life will you.

You definitely need to do some growing up... do you still want to stick up for fraudsters or not? If you do, then carry on posting... fraudsters are bad and so are those that stick up for them :)

And as with every TimPD thread, this one is now 12 pages and I'm out of popcorn.

from dotcomz... [paraphrased by the-muse]: get legal, don't lie, don't support liars...[/paraphrased by the-muse]
[response from the-muse]...ditto...[/response from the-muse]

Although I'm not going to "side" either way. I'd just like to say: Good luck with your ventures, and hopefully earhosts current clients (if there are any left) will actually get what they are paying for.

Now that that is done with:

Dotcomsnz, I've got an idea for you, how about you quit bitching and moaning about a company you HAVE NO DEALINGS with and try running your own.

I read this entire thread, and although many of the comments were quite constructive, and probably suggestions Travis should adhere to, it seemed to me that nearly everyone of your replies had useless bull**** attacking either Travis or some other member of the board, simply because they didn't like you bashing on someone before giving them a chance.

I've been at WHT for quite some time now, but I come here less often each month, because of people like you. It sounds to me like YOUR the one that needs to grow up. The idea of discussion is make your point and make it constructive. But instead you made your point and then actually made stupid arguments and insulted ANYONE that disagreed with you.

WebHostingTrash is becoming more and more evident as time goes by.

Originally posted by timechange
And as with every TimPD thread, this one is now 12 pages and I'm out of popcorn.


Here, I will share my nachos with you :D

Dotcomsnz, I've got an idea for you, how about you quit bitching and moaning about a company you HAVE NO DEALINGS with and try running your own.

Well if ya can't have your say and try to stop people signing up with a scammer or scammers.. then what do you do?

Just sick of reading, "Tim ripped me off" :crying:

If you can't see the validity in my posts, don't read them, they are obviously too deep for you to comprehend - I am not "bitching" but mainly posting observations from viewing posts here.. If you can't see that and continue to support scammers and fraudsters, that makes you as bad as they are? Yes?

And webhostingtrash is created by people like Tim, James ans now Flohost it seems.. :-)

Sorry but I disagree with everything you posted.. but thats what forums are for huh? Discussion.. :-)

Originally posted by timechange
And as with every TimPD thread, this one is now 12 pages and I'm out of popcorn.
Thats because most of the replies are filled with nonsence "popcorn" posts. Its bloody annoying! If you have nothing productive to bring to the table, grab a seat and watch the game. :angry:

The reason for my posts:- (I'll supply a few)

1. I run a hosting business, which I care very much about. It pays my mortgage and also provides me with enjoyment. I consider our clients to be "partners" or "friends" even.

2. I care about the "Bad" companies - If they can be called "Companies" at all - Most of these scam operations are not legally trading ones it seems. It seems that most of them call themselves CEO's of a company that legally does not exist or legally operate, ie. pays taxes etc just like legally operated companies do. There is nothing wrong with running a sole trader or other similar set up at all ie. not being a LLC or PLC etc - The ones that genuinely are in this business to provide a service and do so honestly, cause no problems for clients at all.
They do not get posts around places like WHT saying "Ripped me off" or "where have they gone".

The above mentioned operations are bad news for this industry, it is hard enough to have people put trust into you, without having the TIM threads everywhere.

Travis's intentions were not completely opened up at the beginning of this thread and it seems to me that he was not telling the truth for the most of it. I have the feeling that the underlying intention was to promote E A R H O S T and he has clear invlovement with TIM or James (AKA The Bad Twins) :). In my view, I consider anyone connected with the "Bad twins" as I call them, is onto a bad thing or is joining forces with people who scam and rip clients off. They do not care about providing a service at all it seems.

Of course Travis can choose what he wants to do, but I just can't buy the story after so many lies and truth concealment.

I must admit that the whole subject fires me up inside and my posts were not intentioned to be against the individual or community spirit - In these threads unfortunately it seems common - People must just have their say and while that is good - Promoting bad industry ethics and practices is not.

Have a great day people and lets hope that these kind of threads get fewer and fewer :D

Possibly, it may fewer and fewer, btw any problems with flohost yet?

from lordlardo...Possibly, it may fewer and fewer, btw any problems with flohost yet?...right... "btw"...

Dear Travis, here's somethin' for you...

After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him.
The moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.

There is enough evidence (don't ask me for it...) which makes clear that Travis is a liar, and he's working hand in hand with Tim.

The only thing which I do NOT understand is why moderators allowing criminals to advertise their scams on WHT.

Yes, they are criminals, both of them.

what happened? if someone doesn't mind telling a newbie

Originally posted by ***********
what happened? if someone doesn't mind telling a newbie
in one sentence "when hosts go bad" :)

Originally posted by FloHost


I am only in school because I have to be, if I had a choice I would be working 24/7. I also work for my ISP, I make housecalls and I setup new servers. Most of my work is correspondance courses through OIT (Oregon Institute of Technology) I am an advanced minor, and I do not appreciate your generalization. I will not be a minor in a few months. You are opposed to a Senior in High School that is very ambitious about his future and is working very hard for everything he has over an 18 year old junkie that dropped out of high school as soon as he could at the age of 16? See, I can make generalizations too and they get us nowhere. So if you are not going to have any constructive criticism please keep your comments to yourself. Thank you.

For the record...

I'm 15 years old (im graduating from high school this summer)..im currently enrolled in college....just because some poeple didn't advance doesn't mean the ones that did are lame. im sure i make more money then alot of people that around less than 30 on this board (not trying to bragg) so dissing on us "high schoolerS" wouldn't be the smartest thing in the world ;)

From flohost forum as posted by Travis:

If you have not noticed already, Tim is back. He will be a support staff and he will have no access to accounts or servers. He is just here to help. Tim and I have talked and worked out a plan for him, I am not going to go too much into detail because it is his business. I will say this though; he is doing his best to pay back everyone he owes and he seems to be doing a good job. I thought it would be nice to give him a second chance because we all make mistakes. He admits that he has made some mistakes and he is doing his best to fix them. I hope that you all will do as I have and give him another chance.

Oh...and does this sound familiar:

There is a new cPanel skin if you have not noticed. We had to get rid of the other ones because the license was invalid. I am sorry about the problems this has caused anyone.

...too bad there's no way to get a list of all the customers to send a warning message to... :dunce:

So, ummmmmmmm Travis is it?? Are you taking over Paradise Designs too & all of their BILLS??