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Unlimited web space? Can I store my 5000 mp3 files on your server so I don't have to keep them on my local PC?

Originally posted by WeinBar
Unlimited web space? Can I store my 5000 mp3 files on your server so I don't have to keep them on my local PC?

Sorry d00d :). Check the rulez :):

http://www.hydrogaming.net/hosting/rules.shtml

I, on the other hand, am going to go out and singing 5,000 songs while I get drunk at karaoke night tonite. I will then convert them to MP3. I'm also gonna make home movies of of myself singing. Finally, I will post all of those up to my new unlimited webspace :D.

Of course, my singing might be considered obscene :).

OK, then how about putting up all of my CAD drawings. Can I do that?

If your files weren't breaking the rules, yes. If you had a band, and you recorded 5000 songs, and you loaded all those songs into our server, we would not care. Of course, when we run out of drive space, it would take us a day or two to install a new one. But that doesn't usually happen. When we mean unlimited, we mean it. (unless it breaks the rules!)

Yes, You can post all your CAD drawings. As many as you want. If you have any further questions, contact me by AIM @ FusionRyan, go to our website http://www.hydrogaming.net/hosting/ or contact me on e-mail @ hydrohost@hydrogaming.net

OK, but just to let you know, they are about 300MB each and I have around 400 that I want to store on your site. Will that be a problem? I would really like to free up 120GB of diskspace and pay someone only $7.50/month to do it!

Weinbar if you are intersted in the unlimited disk space then I guess you should sign up before me.
I think I will upload 1000 gigs of frame by frame film quality uncompressed video. Hey I figure this guys plan provides an affordable backup means so why not? I guess I will have to gain acces to a really fast connection to upload the data but I figure its worth the inconvenience for the peace of mind of long term data protection for such a small fee.

So I guess you had better sign up before me or one of us will have to wait a few days while the guy connects more diskspace. I also think the Library of Congress might find this unlimited disk space offer worthy of a look for all their archived material too.

LOL, I just love sites that offer unlimited.

Originally posted by firstmark
Weinbar if you are intersted in the unlimited disk space then I guess you should sign up before me.
I think I will upload 1000 gigs of frame by frame film quality uncompressed video.

Ouch. With only 5 gigs of transfer though, you'd pay about about $2985 if you ever had to retrieve those files :) (assuming inustry standard of $3 per gig over alloted limit x 995 gigs -- althoguh there is no mention of the over the bandwidth limit on the site that I could see).

In which case he could probably afford to buy those drives :D

Of course this plan the guy has is just for unlimited storage, you would have to pay an additioanl 7.95 for the unlimited traffic plan or slowly get the info back over a 70 month period which is probably about the wait time any site hosted on his "unlimited storage" machines would encounter as everyone would always be uploading.

It's really not that good of an offer if you want to store more than 5GB because the data transfer is only 5GB.... 120GB exceeds that.

What if someone was to create a script that made a 1mb addition to the log file each time somebody visited the site?

That way you could still fill your space up, but as your not uploading/downloading anything the bandwidth shouldn't really be touched. Apart from the one page hit ;).

Anywhere advertising unlimited space is either a load of bull, of financially unbalanced. It just can't be done. Companies have to make their money somewhere, and personally I'd prefer to pay an honest price for honest service.

FastHosts in the UK offer unlimited bandwidth and space. It took me 4 emails to find out what was acceptable. Initiall they stated that it really was unlimited, then they said there was a limit but people don't reach it - it's there to safeguard other users. Then when I put examples of space in ym email of 1gb,3gb,5gb and 10gb they told me that wouldn't be a problem.

When I asked them if 50gb would be okay, they never answered. I think we found their real use of the term 'unlimited'.

Nothing is unlimited. The connection has to be limited. I can offer unlimited bandwidth on my 33.6k modem, but the most you'll shift with her is 8k/sec.

Some people :).

Rich

I think, what people are subtlely hinting at, is that they'd rather see a limit placed on the package, rather than the typical, UNLIMITED! thing.

I think, what people are subtlely hinting at, is that they'd rather see a limit placed on the package, rather than the typical, UNLIMITED! thing.

I agree, these unlimited deals are lame.


[Edited by MasterMindz on 03-27-2001 at 12:13 AM]

Acually, the minimum transfer is 5 gig. Some clients are using 45 gigs, and thier sites still work with 5 gigs. We just reccomend that you don't go over 5 gigs, because it may slow down your site. That is to clear things up. Thanks.

So the minimum transfer is 5 gig.
Well that sure is a relief, one would hate to deliver less than the minimum data transfer and risk being booted from your service.

And you say if too much data is transfered then there is a risk that a sites speed may suffer.
I guess with the plan its a case of goldilocks and the three bears you need a site not to large or small, and not to busy or idle; but one thats just right.

LOL@firstmark :)

Bears are nice ;)

Anyway, so the 5gb limit on bandwidth isn't really a limit? It's just guidance, but I could shift 45Gb and you would still charge us for 5gb?

This deal sounds good. Very good. Something isn't quite right. You'd give me unlimited space and 45gb of bandwidth for xxx/per month - how can you be making money out of this?

Unless you are running the servers out of your toilet, and hooked to a modem, I don't see how you can sell 45Gb of bandwidth for $7.50 per month. Especially when you aren't charging for all that space you've agreed to give us. Don't worry about it guys - I'll open an account, and you can give me all your songs and CAD drawings and let me see what they're like. I might even buy them off you so I can keep them online.

In such a case I could have 10Gb of my friends MP3's(that he created with his band - the webhosters :)) and my other friends 400+ CAD drawings(they are plans of the new house I want :)), and shify 45Gb of data for my huge bulletin board too, all for $7.50 per month?

I'm waiting for your reseller package. Unlimited domains, unlimited(45Gb) bandwidth, unlimited domains names, unlimited DNS, unlimited trech support, all for $9.99 per month. Unlimited discount if you sign up to our unlimited contract :).

My main point is nothing is unlimited. Hard drives have a limit. It's not financially viable for you to give me unlimited space for $7.50 per month when I'm costing you $100/month in more hard drives. And what about when you run out of controllers on your server?

No such thing as a free lunch.

Rich

Sorted it out now. I went to have a look at his http://www.hydrogaming.net/ubb/Ultimate.cgi Fourms - yes that is spelt Fourms - on the gaming site.

I think all your answers will be held there. If he fixes the link and you don't get a 404 error, go here (http://webhost.fm).

Rich

[Edited by Inspa.net on 03-27-2001 at 01:58 AM]

I think I might signup for this offer. I could use someplace to backup all my servers to on a daily basis. Do you guys have a few spare hard drives ready to go?

No such thing is unlimited anything as far as I know...

Originally posted by logus
No such thing is unlimited anything as far as I know...

There isn't.

Hydrohost is gonna have some hard time explaining this.

I get unlimited bandwidth for $235 a month from servercentral.net (they use verio's network). The way they support the unlimited bandwidth is:

- Apache is limited to 40 concurrent processes; you can't expect to push out more than about 200 GB per month (and that's with configuration file tweaking; most people don't know about SendBufferSize)
- apparently bandwidth costs them ~$1 per GB
- disk space is limited to 800 MB
- most people won't use as much bandwidth as I do

I've been using them for 1.5 months so far; no problems.

I am a reseller, and the company I resell for offers "unrestricted data transfer* " (notice the asterisk).

And this is a quote:

*We use 10GB per month as the average use point for each domain. There is no cap on the per Kbps used as we understand that some sites need burstability.

</quote>

So it's unlimited... if you stay under 10GB a month.

I actually emailed them for clarification and asked them what happened if one of my clients went over the 10 GB. Basically asking them if it then became cost/MB.

And this was their response in full and quoted:

if they use alot of bandwidth, they must move. we only host LOW volume sites here.

</quote>

Hmmm... unrestricted data transfer... sounds like a white elephant to me!

In fact, I need to change that on my hosting plans. I don't want people laughing at me!

AND other Unlimited features are bound to be limited somehow by Disk space or bandwidth. Such as unlimited databases, mailing lists, auto-responders, mail forwarding, mail accounts, etc.

It's a hard call, but if you list things as unlimited you'd better be ready for someone break the nonexistent (but still there) limit that no one was ever supposed to break and come yelling in your ear.

Regards,
Michael
http://www.zaptacular.com/

Wow hydro, looks like you stirred up the infamous "Unlimited Debate." Better take cover.... :D

Yes, we have many harddrives ready for clients. Don't worry about space. IM me at fusion ryan if you have any questions. And yes, webhost.fm is hosting HydroGaming. Thank you for noticing. And thats for the error.

I know you all have controversy about this Unlimited space thing. We do offer unlimited harddrive space, but can't guarentee it all the time. Obviouly, we don't have a million harddrives. If we run out of space on our harddrives, it may take up to 1-2 days to install it. We only run out of harddrives every 4-5 months anyways, so you don't need to worry about that. I understand the unlimited space is controversial, but I'm serious when I say Unlimited space.

Any more questions or comments?

So... when I start to use... say several thousand gigs and backup my servers I could use you. Once one server runs low on space and you cannot install anymore drives do you think I could get you to setup a nice cluster of servers for me??? :)

You talk to my tech about that :)

hydrohost,

Do you realize that everyone is poking fun at you?

(I guess that's better than some things that could be poked at you!)

-Michael

Ohhh, I think he realizes it. He's doing quite well actually... usually by now we'd have gotten about 3 nasty emails, and he'd have posted how much he hates the board and how everyone can go somewhere, heh.

I give him the lil' trooper award for sticking to his guns at least. As you probably know, I'm not a huge fan of the 'unlimited' word ( ::shudder:: ), but if someone wants to attempt to justify it, I won't stop 'em. :)

i believe though im not sure that he is a resller for stg.net

My friend use to have a southpark site on them and he used about 5gb a day. His account was never suspended but the server did get really slow and start to crash.

i know 1 site that really really gives you unlimited space....it's http://www.streamload.com they currently have 3400 terrabytes of multimedia on their servers and they let you use as much as you need....but you got to pay for the bandwidth :(.....i have over 500 gigs (no typo) of movies and stuff, and i know alot of ppl that have more than that in their accounts!!

Yeah, I have realized everyone is poking at me, and many people have contacted me and told me that if they were me, they would be blowing up. I don't want to make any people mad or anything, and I know the Unlimited thing is controversial, but I just want to use my service for people. I hope some people signs up! Thanks!

I am making a new post to advertise my site in a more positive way. So please visit that forum. You'll probably see it.