BooBoo
09-18-2002, 01:02 PM
I am looking for someone that wants to trade off-site backups. I use CMU & raqbackup.sh and I would like to store these backups off-site for disaster recovery purposes. I am willing to reciprocate.
Any takers?
cbtrussell
09-19-2002, 04:47 PM
Hey Boo,
How large is your backup set? I may be able to help you out.
Brandon
blacknight
09-21-2002, 05:50 AM
It sounds like a good idea, but for security reasons you might want to try reciprocating with somebody in the same NOC
cbtrussell
09-21-2002, 10:33 AM
What security reasons?
(Not a flame, looking for a good discussion...)
i.e., does anything on your insecure list override the concern that if there's a disaster (fire,etc.) at the datacenter, you're toast. No pun intended.
Brandon
bjseiler
09-21-2002, 10:36 AM
Well, if you are dumping mysql databases (that may have usernames,emails, and passwords) and then sending them over the net, I guess I would call that a security risk. For the average site though, really, I think it would probably be worth the risk.
We'll offer backup-space for raqbackup.sh in the very near future and we'll add a function to encrypt the backup with the next release of raqbackup.sh
HTH
Daniel
blacknight
09-21-2002, 02:27 PM
My worry would be sending sensitive information etc., across the 'net.
If it could be easily sent down an SSH tunnel, then it would be a lot safer IMHO
eddy2099
09-22-2002, 09:42 AM
Alternatively, if you could obtain a second harddisk installed on your RaQ and do the backup there. At least that's what I did.
cbtrussell
09-22-2002, 10:01 AM
We are considering just that as a alternative offering for our customers... inserting a second drive (we have tons of brackets <smile>), doing an initial bit-by-bit copy, then keeping it current with rsync. While not a RAID1 setup, it does provide disaster recovery in that if your primary fails, you can swap the jumper on the secondary drive and boot straight off of it. No OS restore needed. It seems to work very well.
That being said, we still recommend periodic offsite backups either via tape or direct transfer. I've got a customer who's shelled out $2500 for a data recovery firm to salvage his drive Friday, which had a head failure. There's no guarantee they'll get it all. Drive crashes are not fun, and backups are the best insurance you can buy! :)
Brandon
BooBoo
09-23-2002, 10:10 AM
But the point is being missed. I have a RaQ that is dedicated only to storing backups. This works fine. I am looking for off-site storage for disaster recovery reasons.
If you use a second harddrive in a local RaQ and then a fire, flood, or any other natural disaster hits you, then that local backup is no good. It is wiped out. That is why I am looking for off-site backups or just storage of backup files.