Ok... I'd like to create name servers using a UK domain. How do I go about this?? The domain was registered with UKReg.com.

Any pointers would be great.

I think you have to become a Nominet registrar to be able
to do that. I don't think there is any fees involved, but it's
a bit of paperwork.

http://www.nic.uk/

I don't think I'm going to pay a £400+VAT set-up fee and an annual subscription fee of £100+VAT for 2 name server records ;)

There must be something I'm missing here???

Actually I don't think so. I know that our hostmaster complained
a bit about Nominet when we became a registrar. They have
some strange rules and demands you to send them a lot of
old fashion paper agreements.

They will set up credit limits and send you paper invoices.
In other words; there's a lot of paper going back and forth
and they probably need the money for employees and stamps :)

With .co.uk domains you can just make up your name server names (no ned to register - but you can if your registrar is willing to help) and point them to your working name server IP's.

e.g. if you have a name server at IP 100.101.102.103 and your domain is called yourdomain.co.uk, you can put an A record in the zone file for yourdomain.co.uk.....

ns1 IN A 100.101.102.103

and you can then allocate this name server to another domain whos zone file in added to your name server and it will work.

A couple of drawbacks with not registering is that you cannot use ns1.yourdomain.co.uk to resolve DNS for yourdomain.co.uk.

The other drawback is that it takes more DNS queries to resolve a domain name on .co.uk name servers that are not registered, this is because when you query the .co.uk name servers for a domain served by ns1.yourdomain.co.uk when it is not registered it will not also return the IP of the name server, but if it was registered it would (glue records). Therefore DNS has to fully resolve ns1.yourdomain.co.uk BEFORE it can start resolving the domain you actually want resolved.

This will NOT work with .com name servers which MUST be registered.

Clear as mud.. :D

yellow_belly

Thanks yellow_belly

I remember reading about that before somewhere and that's what I setup last night with Nominet but I was a bit sceptical about it working :)

you still need to get your nameserver in the NSI global registry. Interestingly on the netsol.com site you can use the host manager to register them. Previously they didn't allow you to do it with any domain not using them however they added mine ok.

Originally posted by Rich2k
you still need to get your nameserver in the NSI global registry. Interestingly on the netsol.com site you can use the host manager to register them. Previously they didn't allow you to do it with any domain not using them however they added mine ok. Hi there - you only need to get the name servers registered with NSI if you want your name servers to resolve domain names that are registered with NETSOL as NETSOL use there own database for verifying that the name servers actually exist before allowing anyone to use them (stupid or what ???) . If this is not the case then you happily can forget NSI.

yellow_belly

Do you have a link to the 'host manager' on the netsol.com site??

For anyone else who's interested here is where you register your name servers.

http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/makechanges/itts/host

Originally posted by JonB
Ok... I'd like to create name servers using a UK domain. How do I go about this?? The domain was registered with UKReg.com.

Any pointers would be great. I'm assuming you've found how to do it then? If not, all you have to do is sent in a message to UKReg and they'll register it manually for you. With .com domain names at UKReg, you can do it yourself via their online control panel, but they don't have the same feature for .co.uk domains yet.

Alan

You can't enter .co.uk name servers for .com unless they are registered with NetSol apparently... up until now I hadn't tried it ona anything but .co.uk domains. When I tried with a .com the registration failed?

This was with UKReg.com

I think there's some confusion here...

If you have a .com domain name registered at UKReg.com, you'll have a feature for that domain to enter your nameservers. This allows you to register your nameservers for that particular .com only, online.

But if you have a .co.uk domain name, there's no online feature to register your own .co.uk nameserver for that particular .co.uk domain name. So to it, you have to contact UKReg.com and they will register the nameserver for you.

You can not cross-use the .com and .co.uk accounts. You have to register nameservers associated with the domain name that you're modifying at the time.

Alan

Yes I think there is :)

If you have a .com domain name registered at UKReg.com, you'll have a feature for that domain to enter your nameservers. This allows you to register your nameservers for that particular .com only, online.

You can register name servers using a .co.uk domain in the <nameserveR> <ip> format when putting in name servers for the .co.uk domain. For example:

Say you wanted ns1 & ns2 on gamingfiles.co.uk you would enter

ns1.gamginfiles.co.uk <ip> as one name server and
ns2.gamingfiles.co.uk <ip> as the second name server

These name servers can then be used for other UK domain names. But if you want to use those for .com domains they have to be also registered with NetSol.

FastHosts have registered their name servers (using a .co.uk domain) with NetSol as well.

http://www.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=ns1.livedns.co.uk&type=nameserver

I see... I've not actually tested that before, but thanks. I'll keep this in mind when I end up using a .co.uk domain name as a nameserver for a .com domain name.

Alan