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Host Ultra 09-15-2002, 08:44 PM Unlimited Data Transfer
Unlimited Disk Space
100mbps Network Connection
Free Sub Directory ( hostultra.com/~you )
Free Domain Hosting ( yourdomain.com )
Browser and FTP Uploading
PHP
Hosting for Unlimited Domains w/ Unlimited Subdomains
100% Free!
http://www.hostultra.com/
No unlimited flames please we are a very profitable company and will not go down
Server has 99% uptime
this is real unlimited and we dont put any restrictions on "unlimited" it our terms
Must be legitimate sites only NOT for file storage or sites with too many downloads, hd backups etc...
READ THE TERMS OF SERVICE at http://www.hostultra.com/tos.html before making any silly unlimited flames please, im trying to provide people with reliable free hosting, if you cant be nice then dont reply to this topic
PixelAxis 09-15-2002, 09:21 PM May I ask how do you plan to make any sort of money when you don't even have ads? Not to go against you or anything, but one must wonder ;)
EDIT: Just went through your site again, I missed that little asterik. Nice plan, hope it will work :D
prosayist 09-15-2002, 09:35 PM (start here to read the whole thing)
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73065
linux-tech 09-15-2002, 11:15 PM So how "unlimited" is your hard drive space?
Even better how "unlilmited" is your core network?
EVERYTHING has it's limits, beit your 10/100 eth0 card or your hard drive.
As far as your TOS, customers would be better off with, say Geocities, or somewher else where at least the host is reasonable with what you can have on your own page..
Geek3 09-15-2002, 11:48 PM *cough*unlimband.com (http://www.unlimband.com)*cough*
:D
TheTech 09-15-2002, 11:57 PM There is a difference between providing UNLIMITED space and having UNLIMITED space.
DutchSchultz 09-16-2002, 12:10 AM Originally posted by TheTech
There is a difference between providing UNLIMITED space and having UNLIMITED space.
Ofcourse TheTech. :) Good luck HostUltra. :)
WII-Aaron 09-16-2002, 12:12 AM No unlimited flames please we are a very profitable company and will not go down
Server has 99% uptime
Not sure how you can be VERY profitable with a single server.
this is real unlimited and we dont put any restrictions on "unlimited" it our terms
and then right afterward.....
Must be legitimate sites only NOT for file storage or sites with too many downloads, hd backups etc...
so... is it unlimited or not? Restrictions or not?
And you gotta love this:
100mbps Network Connection
Yea, it could be hooked up to your little brother's 98 box running ICS on a 56K modem.
And then, the kicker...
READ THE TERMS OF SERVICE at http://www.hostultra.com/tos.html before making any silly unlimited flames please...
and
if you cant be nice then dont reply to this topic...
I see that you have 97 posts. You HAVE to have read what happens when you post like this. This is like putting on the deer costume and running through the woods durring hunting season.
Well, good luck to you. You'll need it.
Aaron
faculty 09-16-2002, 02:36 AM if it is free - who cares..
Really.. who cares.
jojobot 09-16-2002, 04:48 AM It doesn't matter if it's free. The service offer was posted on a forum for predominantly professional, commmercial Web hosting, and therefore should be subjected to the same scrutiny as everyone else.
I question why WHT even allows free webspace providers to post, especially ones which claim unlimited disk space and bandwidth.
tazzy 09-16-2002, 05:40 AM Ask for a refund if he doesn't provide this service you pay for :rolleyes:
aGRIFFIN 09-16-2002, 08:48 AM Unlimited bandwidth and Unlimited space? That's unlikely. Probably hosting from home on cable or something.
People like you make the Hosting industry go down!!!
SoftWareRevue 09-16-2002, 09:28 AM Originally posted by WII-Aaron
. . . . . . You HAVE to have read what happens when you post like this. . . . . . He's read about it in other threads he's started. :D
:pimp: Some people just enjoy pain.
tazzy 09-16-2002, 09:30 AM Probally ?
Get your facts straight first - are you interested in this offer , do you wish to setup an account ?
This is an avertising forum, not a "What do you think" forum, he is not asking for input, he simply is offering a product , therefor if your not interested in this product, why you posting :eek:
UH-Matt 09-16-2002, 10:35 AM Come on guys dont slate someones post, he is advertising a service - good for him if he wants to give out unmetered accounts...
SoftWareRevue 09-16-2002, 12:21 PM Originally posted by UH-Matt
Come on guys dont slate someones post, he is advertising a service - good for him if he wants to give out unmetered accounts... The only problem I have is, he states at the beginning of the thread, "100% Free"
He doesn't tell you that it's only 100% Free if you receive at least 10 Unique hits per week.
His front page states "NO ADS ON PAGES!"
Til you read the part on the bottom that explains, "we only have an EXIT popup! Your visitors will not see any ads till 10 seconds after they leave your site! in most cases your visitors will not blame your site on this popup because they dont know its an exit!"
Besides, if they're NO ADS, why is there an upgrade to remove ads on http://www.hostultra.com/upgrades.html ?
I dislike deceptive business practices. He can offer all the unlimited crap he wants. But, when he offers 100% free/ no ads and then makes you pay to remove the popups . . . . . . . well :rolleyes:
Host Ultra 09-16-2002, 12:30 PM we dont put ads on your pages
they open in a new window
Southernman 09-16-2002, 12:42 PM Actually you throw them out on the visitors exit, possibly leading that visitor to think they are STUPID ads from the next site they visit.
One might think you got enough criticism after your last post, apparently not.
linux-tech 09-16-2002, 01:04 PM Originally posted by Host Ultra
we dont put ads on your pages
they open in a new window
And we're not flaming you, just picking apart your ad bit by bit.
The point is (and you still haven't got the clue yet) that there IS no such thing as unlimited bandwidth, or unlimited space. it's physically impossible.
See, I could bill my 3 drives (30g, 40g, 2g) out as unlimited, because in all rights no one person's going to use up 72g of space, right? WRONG. It's still limited by the 72g of space. Your network is STILL limited by the network card running it, or the bandwidth behind IT.
Sure you make money, probably by lying to advertisers the very same way you do to your customers.
As far as the popups AFTER someone leaves your site, well, that's just ridiculous. You're still inserting popups in individuals pages, and LYING about doing it to boot!
Host Ultra 09-16-2002, 01:15 PM im not lying
read the * at the bottom
linux-tech 09-16-2002, 02:08 PM Oh pardon me, blaming the popup on someone else isn't a lie. It's as much of a lie as saying "we don't place them" and placing them anyways.
Even funner, my favorite line from the TOS:
"Please note that any information or material sent to hostultra.com or any of its related sites, services, or e-mail addresses will be deemed NOT to be confidential."
Which of course leaves each and every email and bit of personal information available to be sold by yourself.. Not bloody likely..
Mallow 09-16-2002, 06:03 PM and he wants peoples address's when they sign up. :eek:
Talk about lack of security and private protection.
jojobot 09-17-2002, 02:33 AM Originally posted by tazzy
Get your facts straight first - are you interested in this offer , do you wish to setup an account ?
This is an avertising forum, not a "What do you think" forum, he is not asking for input, he simply is offering a product , therefor if your not interested in this product, why you posting :eek:
This is a discussion forum. Because certain service claims warrant further discussion (ie "unlimited" and "free"), people will reply. If we weren't allowed to post replies, vBulletin allows adminstrators to disable them.
The fact that it's "free" doesn't make the criticism any less valid. If a company offered 50GB space and 50GB bandwidth for $1, we'd question the sustainability of such a pricing structure. Well Host Ultra claims to offer something far better than that, and for free, so their pricing structure is even more in question.
"Unlimited Data Transfer" and "Unlimited Disk Space" providers should continually be chastised for their claims. Otherwise a would-be customer could wander in and fall for it, fully expecting such features, not knowing that it's impossible to provide. This sort of information is exactly what WHT is good at providing.
Host Ultra 09-17-2002, 02:53 AM none of you people who think unlimited doesnt exist know what you are talking about so you just just keep your opinions to yourself im not looking for comments here
just because you think unlimited is not possible does not mean it isnt and just because you cannot provide it does not mean someone else cannot
and unlimited is possible so quit bugging me about it
if you have not tried to run and UNLIMITED host then you CANNOT SAY ITS NOT POSSIBLE because you DONT KNOW!!
how can you say something is not possible if you never tried it?
none of you guys who have replied have ever used my hosting otherwise you would not have posted such silly comments
you know nothing about my hosting and how it works so dont come on like you know everything
because there is no unlimited hard drives or unlimited pipes does not mean i cannot offer it
i can supply as much as the customer requires
i can get as many servers or extra hard drives, pipes as they are needed
ive been doing this for 7 months and no problems yet and we make a big profit from it
the largest site i host takes almost 800MB of space and we have some high bandwidth users which use 200GB per month
we want you to make your site a success and get as many hits as possible
the more hits you get the more money we make from the ads which buys more servers and equipment so we will get bigger and bigger all the time
im not here to try to scam people into promising something and then never give it
you should not treat me like this because other unlimited hosts have a bad name
you may not like my terms of service which restricts some types of sites but all hosts restrict some content or usage in order to make money
if we did not do this and allowed everything onto our servers then we would loose money and have to close down
we are honest and put all the limits of the service in our terms, we dont just delete sites for no reason and give some excuse like other unlimited hosts do
because we restrict content does NOT mean we are not unlimited
we only offer unlimited webspace and bandwidth which has nothing to do with the types of sites we allow
if your site fits our requirements you can use as much bandwidth and disk space as you need! and i promise that
SoftWareRevue 09-17-2002, 03:01 AM Originally posted by Host Ultra
none of you people who think unlimited doesnt exist know what you are talking about so you just just keep your opinions to yourself im not looking for comments here
just because you think unlimited is not possible does not mean it isnt and just because you cannot provide it does not mean someone else cannot
and unlimited is possible so quit bugging me about it
if you have not tried to run and UNLIMITED host then you CANNOT SAY ITS NOT POSSIBLE because you DONT KNOW!!
how can you say something is not possible if you never tried it?
. . . . . . .:rolleyes: Okay. Try this, because I'm not gonna do it for ya. Although I'm sure someone else will.
Go to somewhere like www.dictionary.com
Look up the work unlimited
Report back here with your result and tell us how it is possible.
Thank you. And have a nice day.
SoftWareRevue 09-17-2002, 03:04 AM Originally posted by Host Ultra
. . . . . .
im not here to try to scam people into promising something and then never give it
. . . . . . .No. You're just saying "100% free. No ads."
Sorry. Not true.
linux-tech 09-17-2002, 03:12 AM Originally posted by Host Ultra
[B]none of you people who think unlimited doesnt exist know what you are talking about so you just just keep your opinions to yourself im not looking for comments here
Uggh, there IS NO UNLIMITED!!!!
I swear, this is like trying to teach basics to someone who just refuses to listen to Common sense.. you do NOT have unlimited hosting.. Your hosting HAS limits;
-- Hard drives have limites
-- eth0 cards have limits
-- networks have limits
-- bandwidth has limits
I could go on for hours and hours.
Originally posted by Host Ultra
[B]
none of you guys who have replied have ever used my hosting otherwise you would not have posted such silly comments
Like anyone in this forum would be STUPID enough to sign up for your hosting, KNOWING full well that their email address and other personal information was very subject to being farmed out to the highest bidder (and in most cases more than one).
Originally posted by Host Ultra
[B]
ive been doing this for 7 months and no problems yet and we make a big profit from it
Ya, so did AoL too (doing the very same thing) untilll they got called into court on it.
Originally posted by Host Ultra [B]
im not here to try to scam people into promising something and then never give it
Yup, you're not.. You're trying to scam people out of personal information, requiring it in exchange for your hosting.. In addition, you're hiding the fact that you WILL eventually sell the information (it's prett y much all there in your TOS)
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we are honest
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ROFLMAO
We just try to pin our exit banner on EVERYONE ELSE!!! Yes, that's honest, the most HONEST tactic in the world (not!!)
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because we restrict content does NOT mean we are not unlimited
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You have limits, thus you are not unlimited
prosayist 09-17-2002, 04:08 AM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
:rolleyes: Look up the work unlimited
Report back here with your result
I was gonna do this anyway..
try this :
$1=Having no restrictions or controls;
$2=Having no boundaries;
$3=Without qualification or exception;
$4=having no bounds;
$5=unrestricted;
$6=not bounded by exceptions ;
$7=lacking any controls ;
:D
Southernman 09-17-2002, 05:13 AM I only wish we had a picture :homer: of you so we would know what a fool looks like! You just keep coming back for more abuse. Maybe its time to put that peace pipe down - and wake up HU.
>>because there is no unlimited hard drives or unlimited pipes does not mean i cannot offer it:dunce:
That has to be ONE of the most ABSURD comments you could make to back up what you have to say (think). Sure DS, you can OFFER it, but you cant provide it!
:uzi:
:sickface: Host Ultra and his unlimited crap
:flamethr:
tazzy 09-17-2002, 06:07 AM If your not happy with his service do a chargeback on your ... oh yeah... its free..... have any of you actually tried this service of his ? :rolleyes:
Try it, flame later if he closes your account if you have NOT broken the terms and conditions ... if not ... Its not your problem :rolleyes:
linux-tech 09-17-2002, 06:17 AM Originally posted by tazzy
If your not happy with his service do a chargeback on your ... oh yeah... its free..... have any of you actually tried this service of his ? :rolleyes:
Try it, flame later if he closes your account if you have NOT broken the terms and conditions ... if not ... Its not your problem :rolleyes:
Like I said, knowing that their information is (probably) going to be sold to thie highest bidder, who'd be crazy enough to sign up from here?? Certainly not me. I have enough spam, thank you very much!
tazzy 09-17-2002, 08:34 AM You sure you have enough spam ... I have tones of it .... i'm more than happy to share :bawling:
And ... I not signing up either .... I'm happy with my current host (me) :D
Forget Unlimited (for now) and define "free"
This hosting is NOT free. The person signing up pays for it with their personal privacy, and their site visitors annoyance. I sure hope nobody gave them their ISP email, as it will soon be rendered useless beyond all hope.
The site visitors also pay for it by that .js script that slows down the page load time, and will forver reside on their PC with most likely some tracking cookies sucking up space there too.
This isn't "free" it is "Owned"
I'll gadly pay the $15 or so dollars to be free of such crap.
Host Ultra 09-17-2002, 11:13 AM we dont sell any information or give it away
we dont spam or give addresses to anyone else to spam
goto hotmail and make an email account and only use for hostultra and i bet you will recieve no spam
the last time any of those addresses recieved a mailing was about 2 months ago with an important service announcement
free means no money payment
most free hosts have ads
we dont give your visitors any cookies
we only use cookies in the account manager to remember your logged in
and we make the terms clear
were not hiding anything
its the users decision to signup if they want to or not signup if they dont agree to the terms
sitekeeper 09-17-2002, 11:55 AM Host Ultra
I have to ask, why don't you just re-write your plan to say:
“We allow you all the space and bandwidth you require for your website. That’s right, all the space and bandwidth you require as long as it is part of your website, of course no illegal content is allowed.“
I just don’t see why you would associate your company with the words “Unlimited” unless these kinds of threads are part of your marketing. I would think you would possibly get more people to signup if you remove the word.
linux-tech 09-17-2002, 01:42 PM Ahh, but you see you can't even write it to say that.
See, it's got to be just text, no video, no anything.. Aint nobody can use up that much text.. it's just not worth it..
And you've already proven you don't know what you're talking about HU.. You state clearly that this information COULD be sold on your web page (no information is kept private nor do we want private information), so if you're not keeping it private, just what are you doing with it?? **peer**
Originally posted by Host Ultra
we dont sell any information or give it away
we dont spam or give addresses to anyone else to spam
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I have never heard such a whiney, pathetic response in defense of "free" hosting in my life.
I know what free is.
I am free to have any 'legal' type of file on my webspace. I do not have to link to it, or include it in any webpages.
I am free to my post pictures all over the net if I want, using up completely my 60 or so gigs of transfer.
I am free to retain or disclose my personal information as I see fit.
I am free to decide that I do not want my visitors using their resources for stupid pop ups whether comming or going.
I am free to complain if my provider isn't doing his (or her) job that I pay them to do.
jamesaspey 09-17-2002, 07:31 PM :eek: Why is this thread so long? hes advertising a service just like most of you are, just because hes got more 'balls' than some folk - i say good luck to him, maybe hes found his own niche in the market which these days is very hard to find. Looking at his forum people seem happy with his service, so hes obviously doing something right. People seem to want to pick arguments these days - concentrate on your own strategies and not other peoples.
linux-tech 09-18-2002, 03:56 AM He's advertising a service ?
Not bloody likely. He's advertising a fraud.
You can host on his servers, in doing so you will receive:
-- No guarantee of privacy (he'll give out your information more than likely, though he requires it to sign up for his service).
--LOTS of banners (tho most won't recognize it, and blame it on some poor site they go see next)
--INCREDIBLE lies (we don't post banners (oh wait we DO post banners)),
--wonderfully contradictiive regulations (you can host here but you have to have to jump through so many hoops it's really not worth it.
--Your site can't have images
--Your site can't link to most of the other sites on the internet.
--Your site can't have audio (wav, etc) greetings, or the like.
--Your site has to be visited uniquely 10x weekly
HostUltra is a joke, a fraud, a ripoff.. Sure, as they've already said 'You don't pay for our service", but you DO pay for their service, more dearly than you would had you paid $$$$$$ , with your own private information that they (by their own words) don't want, but refuse to guarantee the privacy of..
This individual has posted here before (someone's posted the link a few times, I forget it though), has been through this before, and SHOULD know better than to come in here with the same bogus crap that they've been spouting off. Unfortunately, they don't.
As far as the rest of us working on our strategies, I would say we are (at least I am). We are ALSO informing the public of the fraudulent crap like HostUltra. It's not picking an argument, it's not Nitpicking, hell it's not even a flame.. It's reality, the reality that is true, not what HostUltra would have you believe.
Perhaps HostUltra, if you would reconsider your strategies and remove the 'unlimited" claims from your own website, you would get fewer negative responses .
There IS no unlimited anything.
jamesaspey 09-18-2002, 08:23 AM I think you have completley missed the point. This is an 'advertising' forum and not a 'free for all brawl' there are more appropriate forums to post comments like this in, ie if you are unhappy with their services etc, from the looks of it none of you have even had any experiences with them ? so how the hell can you judge?......
-- No guarantee of privacy (he'll give out your information more than likely, though he requires it to sign up for his service).
Where the heck you getting all this from? your the one making up the lies my friend.
This is also inappropriate as its not an 'advert'.
linux-tech 09-18-2002, 08:54 PM Originally posted by jamesaspey
I think you have completley missed the point. This is an 'advertising' forum and not a 'free for all brawl' there are more appropriate forums to post comments like this in, ie if you are unhappy with their services etc, from the looks of it none of you have even had any experiences with them ? so how the hell can you judge?......
Where the heck you getting all this from? your the one making up the lies my friend.
This is also inappropriate as its not an 'advert'.
directly from their TOS is where I'm getting that. There's no lies whatsoever in there.. Here's a direct quote from their TOS:
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Please note that any information or material sent to hostultra.com or any of its related sites, services, or e-mail addresses will be deemed NOT to be confidential. By sending hostultra.com any information or material, you grant hostultra.com an unrestricted, irrevocable license to use, reproduce, display, perform, modify, transmit and distribute those materials or information
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In short:
By giiving HostUltra your information, you are releasing them to sell it to whoever they want to for whatever purposes and whatever reasons.
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