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MaB
09-15-2002, 03:11 PM
Hi guys. I just wanted to know if there is any real market for virtual private servers. Are there any huge companies that offer it (IE Competition). whats their pricing/features like? what software do they use?

Im looking at http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc
Does anyone know of any (free) others?

I understand, the one above gives root access (a root user) and everything looks real. The catches are that you have to alot a physical partition and you cant limit the resources a vserver uses... :(

Can anyone fill me in?
PS i considered VMWARE but i would perfer that each customer can reboot their vserver in real time

Thanks.

cyansmoker
09-15-2002, 03:31 PM
Avi,
I have played with several free VPS a while ago; as I recall, vserver requires a patch kernel to run. And I don't think that you can limit resources.
I have also tried UML which is easier to set up but then each server consumes a lot of resources. However, the beauty of UML is that you can run various distros on the same machine.

Coincidentally, we have a version of BCP setup on a VPS and each time we want to start playing with new things we have to get some bits of the VPS "unlocked".

MaB
09-15-2002, 03:33 PM
Yes, i got VServer running on vmware - custom kernel - its easy. however, i dont like that i cant restrcit the amount of ram and cpu.. :(

Aussie Bob
09-15-2002, 10:04 PM
VPS has got to be the way of the future, especially for reseller type accounts. It's a better platform and a tad more reliable than standard shared hosting. I see big things in this area in the future.

The Prohacker
09-15-2002, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Aussie Bob
VPS has got to be the way of the future, especially for reseller type accounts. It's a better platform and a tad more reliable than standard shared hosting. I see big things in this area in the future.


I have to agree that VDS/VPS could be a large thing much like reselling...

But it won't really catch on, till there are more control panels, like cpanel that supports making them.... IMO :D

UmBillyCord
09-15-2002, 10:44 PM
Sorry, but where have you guys been? We have been selling VDSs since 12/00 for our resellers. Don't think because the VDS platform hasn't hit the price range to have cheap skates (j/k) buy it, that it is not a popular service already. WHT is not even close to a place to gauge full market activity.

I do agree that Sphera type VDSs will be more and more the future. They just make sense.

Serious volunteer work will be needed to develop a system like Ensims's VDS technology. This I do not see happening for some time. However, basic VDS technology (no true fault tolerance or resource QOS) will be easy as many have seen with the past current attempts.

Aussie Bob
09-15-2002, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by UmBillyCord
Sorry, but where have you guys been? We have been selling VDSs since 12/00 for our resellers. Don't think because the VDS platform hasn't hit the price range to have cheap skates (j/k) buy it, that it is not a popular service already. WHT is not even close to a place to gauge full market activity.
Exactly. Does anyone have any stats on the uptake of the VDS platform? It would be small as compared to the shared reselling, IMO. I don't suppose it would even be possible to calculate exact stats, given the fragmentation of the industry.
I do agree that Sphera type VDSs will be more and more the future. They just make sense.
Yep. Who knows what the future will hold. Maybe servers will be linked in with huge clusters for redundacy etc more in the future. It's an exciting future. Maybe the machines will just take over. ;)

UmBillyCord
09-16-2002, 12:49 AM
The uptake is small compared to shared of course. Price is the #1 reason. Until people start to feel the ill-effects of shared, do they understand the need for a VDS. Especially once they understand what it exactly is. Many host pollute the industry with terms like "Semi-dedicated" which people start to think of as virtual dedicated.

Yep. Who knows what the future will hold. Maybe servers will be linked in with huge clusters for redundacy etc more in the future. It's an exciting future. Maybe the machines will just take over.

Software - software - software. People still think of control panels and management in terms of per box.