Thinking of selling VPS's. Need feedback

Hello, I have seen the market for VPS's increasing, and I want to get into that market. I have no experience in it however, so I need some advice. Here are my rigs specs:2x Intel Quad Core 2.0ghz
8GB Ram
1TB Hardrive
5TB Bandwith
Windows Server 2008 Datacenter 64bit WITH Hyper-V
29 Useable IP's
Im thinking of selling 16 VPS's with 512mb ram, 300GB bandwith and 50GB Hardrive. I would sell this for $20 per month. (Windows not linux).
My questions are:Is my rig good enough for VPS hosting (processor especially),
Is my pricing/specs for a 512mb ram ok?
With Windows Server 2008 Datacenter 64bit WITH Hyper-V, can I just create unlimited number of VPS, without having to worry about licencing each one. Also is this just a simple click and create, or do I have to install OS for each one?
Thanks for any feedback,
Ben

It's not ideal.. A single Hard Disk is not suitable for a VPS environment, you want a minimum of two drives in RAID-1. With two quad-core processors you would also do better giving that machine 16GB RAM and a RAID-10 setup.
Do some googling for "SPLA" licenses, because Yes you do need a license for your VPS. Although you can use a single license for 3 or 4 VM's I believe.





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You need RAID, period. A single 1TB drive won't support the I/O necessary for a reliable

RAID-1 does NOT provide double the I/O of a single drive... Read is a little bit faster, but writing is actually marginly slower.





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Originally Posted by PCS-Chris


It's not ideal.. A single Hard Disk is not suitable for a VPS environment, you want a minimum of two drives in RAID-1. With two quad-core processors you would also do better giving that machine 16GB RAM and a RAID-10 setup.
Do some googling for "SPLA" licenses, because Yes you do need a license for your VPS. Although you can use a single license for 3 or 4 VM's I believe.


Do I need a SPLA License? Because here it says:
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Windows Server 2008 Datacenter licenses include unlimited virtualization rights, meaning customers have the use rights to run an unlimited number of virtualized instances of Windows Server on processors licensed with Windows Server 2008 Datacenter without purchasing additional licenses.


Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...-high-end.aspx

Depends on what model your processor is.
As well as you should have a minimum of 4 HDD's in RAID 1+0
I'd also suggest 16GB RAM.
But there are plenty of hosts on here that sell vps's on lower spec machines than your suggesting using.





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Originally Posted by Slixor


Is my rig good enough for VPS hosting (processor especially)


No, you are not going to be able to host that number of VPS's. CPU will be the least of a problem (although it's a tad on the slow side), but HDD I/O will be a significant issue. A single SATA harddrive will be nowhere nearly fast enough to run 16 VPS's with 50GB space (especially on Windows). You're going to have to look at RAID-10, preferably with 10.000RPM or 15.000RPM drives.
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Originally Posted by Slixor


Is my pricing/specs for a 512mb ram ok?


Quite simply; no. As said, the machine you described isn't beefy enough to run those VPS's. Other than that, you'll have to deal with licensing. $320/mo isn't going to be enough to cover a potential monthly bandwidth usage of 4800GB + windows licensing + more expensive hardware than you were planning.
To offer good performing VPS's with the specs you described, you're probably going to have to look at doubling your pricing.
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Originally Posted by FHH - Tim


I'd also suggest 16GB RAM.


Quite frankly, that won't be needed at all. He's looking to host 16 VPS's with 0.5GB ram each, consuming 8GB if they all use all their RAM. The virtualization overhead really doesn't require another 8GB.





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Last edited by Apoc : 12-14-2008 at 01:22 PM.

I don't think a VPS provider should have anything less than RAID-10, it's just not worth the performance hit.
Most VPS providers co - locate and it is worth the investment in equipment.





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Originally Posted by Apoc


Quite frankly, that won't be needed at all. He's looking to host 16 VPS's with 0.5GB ram each, consuming 8GB if they all use all their RAM. The virtualization overhead really doesn't require another 8GB.


It will be as if he has to go for 4 hard drives and RAID 1+0 instead of a single drive his costs will increase and he will need to sell more vps's.





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Originally Posted by RSkeens


I don't think a VPS provider should have anything less than RAID-10, it's just not worth the performance hit.
Most VPS providers co - locate and it is worth the investment in equipment.


Sorry if this is a noob question, but what is the drawbacks of operating on only 1 hardrive, except for the chance of data loss.
Would 16 VPS's make the hardrive really slow?

Yes 16 VPS's on one hard drive would cause a lot of wait time which will slow down the CPU to a halt during peak times.
I want to ask though, if you have no experience with VPS's then why would you be interested in entering a business of hosting them? Trying not to be too off topic but I would say the amount of VPS hosting businesses has increased faster than the demand of VPS's in the past few months.





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