Hello,

E.FreeServers is a new start-up funded by angel investor. We're currently offering free co-location services to customers who are running adult-oriented, MP3, or games web sites.

Standard Features:

Free set-up & configuration.
Free rack space.
Free & unlimited IP addresses.
Free reboot.
Uninterrupted power supply.
24x7 network & server monitoring.
99.99% uptime guarantee.
Non-throttle & fully burstable 100Mbps port. We do not use any percentile rule. You only pay for the bandwidth transfer from your server(s).

Ultra modern data center in Sacramento, California:

OC-48 network (direct connection to UUNET and Eli.net).
Cisco 12000 Series routers & Extreme Networks switches.
Turbo-diesel powered back-up generators.
Month-to-month contract (no long-term commitment to worry about).

Bandwidth Price: Only $1.00 / 1GB
8,000GB+ per month: $0.65 / 1GB

Go to http://colocation.efreeservers.com/ for more information.

We look forward to helping you with your bandwidth needs.

The main problem with this is if you only use 250gb or 50gb your out a ton of money.

Joe

Those prices are cheap....

Yep, too cheap. Makes me wonder.....

E.FreeServers,
Could you list a number of sites you host?

[Edited by energy on 03-24-2001 at 12:14 AM]

Hmm, I need a some amount of webspace/bandwidth to store some large files. Can you provide shared account with large webspace (Around 1gb / 30+ GB) for fair price?

Originally posted by E.FreeServers
Hello,

E.FreeServers is a new start-up funded by angel investor. We're currently offering free co-location services to customers who are running adult-oriented, MP3, or games web sites.

Standard Features:

Free set-up & configuration.
Free rack space.
Free & unlimited IP addresses.
Free reboot.
Uninterrupted power supply.
24x7 network & server monitoring.
99.99% uptime guarantee.
Non-throttle & fully burstable 100Mbps port. We do not use any percentile rule. You only pay for the bandwidth transfer from your server(s).

Ultra modern data center in Sacramento, California:

OC-48 network (direct connection to UUNET and Eli.net).
Cisco 12000 Series routers & Extreme Networks switches.
Turbo-diesel powered back-up generators.
Month-to-month contract (no long-term commitment to worry about).

Bandwidth Price: Only $1.00 / 1GB
8,000GB+ per month: $0.65 / 1GB

Go to http://colocation.efreeservers.com/ for more information.

We look forward to helping you with your bandwidth needs.

I can be in Sacramento in 2 hours, can I come by and check the data center out?

i hope this doesnt turn out to be a racklocation.

Sounds an awful lot like the NOC description at http://www.lanset.net/ ... (I like the part on this page (http://www.lanset.net/colo.htm) where it says "Bonus security is provided by the Sacramento Sheriff's Department, housed next door." :D )

Coincidentally, http://www.efreeservers.com = 208.187.167.110 = placeholder110.lanset.com

[Edited by Rehan on 03-24-2001 at 03:21 AM]

Well who would want to screw around when, the cops can get there on foot?

Yeah, exactly.
We considered a property next to Dunkin Donuts (for security purposes) when we were mapping out our new NOC.

Sean R.
BurstNET™

Originally posted by Tim_Greer
Originally posted by E.FreeServers
Hello,

E.FreeServers is a new start-up funded by angel investor. We're currently offering free co-location services to customers who are running adult-oriented, MP3, or games web sites.

Standard Features:

Free set-up & configuration.
Free rack space.
Free & unlimited IP addresses.
Free reboot.
Uninterrupted power supply.
24x7 network & server monitoring.
99.99% uptime guarantee.
Non-throttle & fully burstable 100Mbps port. We do not use any percentile rule. You only pay for the bandwidth transfer from your server(s).

Ultra modern data center in Sacramento, California:

OC-48 network (direct connection to UUNET and Eli.net).
Cisco 12000 Series routers & Extreme Networks switches.
Turbo-diesel powered back-up generators.
Month-to-month contract (no long-term commitment to worry about).

Bandwidth Price: Only $1.00 / 1GB
8,000GB+ per month: $0.65 / 1GB

Go to http://colocation.efreeservers.com/ for more information.

We look forward to helping you with your bandwidth needs.

I can be in Sacramento in 2 hours, can I come by and check the data center out?

Can i check it out too :) i can be there in hmmm 2 and a half.

so does anybody know the deal with http://www.lanset.net/ ? any good? Any known history, good or bad?

Originally posted by BurstNET
Yeah, exactly.
We considered a property next to Dunkin Donuts (for security purposes) when we were mapping out our new NOC.

ROFL! :)

You may want to look at property next to my neighbors? They don't seem to sleep much. Up all night. Seems local law enforement comes by there a couple times a day.

/tangent

How does this work.
Is the unit placed on the rack and then I would be responsible for everything after the first setup? No support for anything? Would I be responsible for replacing hardware if it fails?

Will you ship me the unit after the year is up and I go elsewhere? Will I actually own it and will you give me a contract saying I own it after the year?

Actually this has to do with dedicated and not co location but I still want to know.

Please let me know.

http://www.lanset.net/ and http://www.efreeservers.com are related.

[]$ nslookup efreeservers.com
Name: efreeservers.com
Address: 208.187.167.110

[]$ nslookup 208.187.167.110
Name: placeholder110.lanset.com
Address: 208.187.167.110

Anyone got an explanation?

Thank you all for your interests in E.FreeServers. I like to take this opportunity to address Jeremy's questions first then on to Energy.

Q1) Is the unit placed on the rack and then I would be responsible for everything after the first setup? No support for anything? Would I be responsible for replacing hardware if it fails?

A1) Our free servers program is targeted toward people who have experience with server administration currently or in the past. After you order your server, we will set up your server for free (i.e. DNS, Email, Subnet mask, default gateway, etc). You'll be given the login name and password to access your server. As for support, we do provide several services for free, but primary server admin tasks are your responsibilities. If any hardware fails during the contract period, EFS will replace them free of charge. In brief, EFS may not be the right company for people who've never manage their own server before.

Q2) Will you ship me the unit after the year is up and I go elsewhere? Will I actually own it and will you give me a contract saying I own it after the year?

A2) EFS will ship your server(s) to you for $0.00 after 20 months of continuous bandwidth services from EFS. The service contract has 2 part: Part 1 requires 12 months of bandwidth services; Part 2: To buy the server from EFS for $0.00 requires a 20 months commitment. Please note that you can buy the server at anytime at the price listed in the service agreement.

As for our Service Agrement, there is a link at the bottom of each order page as well as the "about EFS" page. Here is the link -- http://www.efreeservers.com/legal.htm

Note: The official service agrement is the same as the one online, but both the customer and EFS will be required to sign it; thus ensuring its legally binding status.

Q3) Upon ordering will you send me an invoice with serial number attached to prove it is a new server from dell and not the cheapest thing you can find?

A3) Absolutely. After you've sign the service agreement, EFS will send you a copy of the receipt from Cobalt and Dell. There are other ways of verifying the hardware and software of your server, so an experience administrator like yourself would have no problem with such confirmation. Plus all customers are welcome to visit our data center to see their own server for themselves.

As for Energy's question, EFS has a strategice partnership with Lanset and possibly an acquisition of the company in the future. It's quite amazing the type of added security you get for free when your data center is next to the Sheriff's Department since our building is in direct view of deputies going and returning from their shift.

With regard to people who have question about how EFS can offer bandwidth as such low prices, we strongly encourage to negotiate long term bandwidth agreement with your backbone provider. They're a quite generous when it comes to 10 + years of bandwidth services for your company. Please note that there are no restrictions on contents for both our free servers and free co-location services. This mean EFS welcome all type of sites, including adult-contents, chat room, bullentin board, MP3, and games. For webmasters of these aforementioned sites, I'm sure you'll agree with me that 500GB a month is a drop in a bucket for company.

I hope my answer are helpful in your decision making process. Give us a call at 1-415-671-3841 if you like some more information about our products and services.

Best Regards.

So, are you in Sacramento? The 415 area code is closer to Vacaville and SF, isn't it?

If you really look into this; its not a good deal

You are buying blocks of bandwith.

After cogent recently entered the market at around 10 cents a gb, this actually is a rip off.

The server is coming out of that constant block.

If I need 50gb of transfer, can it be done.

Ill let these people answer that.

Question:

ABC company only needs 50gb of Transfer. Does your system still work???

Joe

Joe, It seems like you got the wrong thread.
This thread talks about co-location.

"The server is coming out of that constant block."
obviously. But $300 for 150 GB and a server is a very good deal.

"If I need 50gb of transfer, can it be done."
At $2 per GB? No but it can be done at a higher rate per GB.

This is similar how you can get a cell phone for free if you get a large number of minutes, which you may or may not use.

EFS, Who owns the data center the servers are in?
btw: no one is answering at the phone number you posted!

[Edited by energy on 03-24-2001 at 09:02 PM]

Originally posted by JBIZ718
If you really look into this; its not a good deal

You are buying blocks of bandwith.

After cogent recently entered the market at around 10 cents a gb, this actually is a rip off.

The server is coming out of that constant block.

If I need 50gb of transfer, can it be done.

Ill let these people answer that.

Question:

ABC company only needs 50gb of Transfer. Does your system still work???

Joe

Cheapest, is not always the best quality. This can be compared to saying you're being ripped off if you buy a more expensive, luxury car, compared to an economy brand. It depends on what's inportant to you. Some people look for the cheapest deal, and some look for the best price, for the best quality. It's not a "rip off", because they charge more than the lowest competitor. We don't know how well Cogent will be yet, and won't know truly, for a while. If everything was based on the lowest price, there'd be little competition, poor quality in service all around and far less companies. There's many aspects to this, other than price alone, even though that's certainly a big draw and concern.

What im saying is this isnt the perfect deal.

I mean if you only use 125mb of space, and pay for 500mb, then technically your getting ripped off.

Let think about this.

This works if you use the bandwith to the fullest.

If the bandwith isnt fully used, its not totally the best deal.

Cheap isnt always good. Budgeting is important.

Maximizing revenue is always important.

Joe

"If the bandwith isnt fully used, its not totally the best deal."

There are not many web hosts that will let you pay for only the bandwidth you use. If they do then they'll charge more then $2 per GB.

Well.. I'm close to Sacramento ..the power has never been
off yet. In the future businesses will be notified in advance if power will be out so that they may arrange alternative power sources.

Also we don't get earthquakes in Sacramento.

I think it's a great deal. Especially for colocation.

Why is it that most companies charge more for colocation
than leasing a server?

If I can have unlimited IPs and the ability to go to the
datacenter and install my own software ...IE.. PC anywhere
etc.. I'm would be a happy camper.

Are there cheaper prices for colocation? Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

Tim_Greer, you are correct, 415 is SF. Sac County would be 916.

I think if they are that close to the police station they would be in block 50. They wont get their power turned off unless it gets real bad.

~CP