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Vortech
03-23-2001, 09:55 PM
Does any one know where you can buy ensim and is it as easy to install as Plesk. I went to ensim.com and have asked for more info 3 times and nothing back is there some where else to buy this at?

thewebbie
03-24-2001, 12:28 PM
Hi,

Ensim does not sell control panels directly to users. They sell a system that allows hosters to deliver the control panels to private servers. If you are looking to host somewhere then you'll have to ask around in the advertising section of this board.

I get mine from forsite.net but I know there are others like olm, superb, hostcentric, web 2010, datapipe, cybertitans and more.. I'm sure there are many more but Ensim seems to be host netural and not advertise many of their hosters.

JBIZ718
03-25-2001, 01:23 PM
We use Ensim also...

Joe

thewebbie
04-02-2001, 08:57 PM
Hey.. I have to correct my last statement.. Ensim just released a new version of their control panel that can be installed on any red hat 6.2 server.

It looks cool..

rence
04-02-2001, 09:47 PM
Hey, thewebbie, where can i find out more about this new control panel that Ensim released?

cbaker17
04-02-2001, 10:48 PM
Odd coincidence the ensim sales guy just called today trying to get us to sell their break out control panel, I will be demoing and will let you know how it goes.....

allan
04-02-2001, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by rence
Hey, thewebbie, where can i find out more about this new control panel that Ensim released?

http://www.ensim.com/products/webppliancels.shtml

This looks really nice, and the pricing is really good:

10-Domain License $99 USD
250-Domain License $599 USD
Unlimited-Domain License $999 USD

The Ensim guy has been bugging us for a couple of months, its deifinately worth a look. And maybe we can throw our Cobalt on E-Bay :).

dektong
04-03-2001, 12:50 AM
interesting... ensim is selling their control panel, at last! Now... Hopefully CPanel/WHM will do the same... instead of having people pay monthly (and so much, especially if the server is not hosted with VDI), I hope Cpanel/WHM would be for sale the way ensim is right now.

It is just me or what... I tried to find the terms about this unlimited domain licese, could not find it on their homepage. Now, I am sure that this unlimited domain license is for each server? Personally, I would not buy the unlimited domains license. If I need more than 250 domains, I will buy another licence for 250 domains since I would most put about 300 domains top on each server....

BTW, JBLITZ18, would you please email me? I want to ask you about how can you use/buy their ServerXchange software....

cheers,
:beer:

Phiberop
04-03-2001, 01:18 AM
Not sure if I like tne Ensim control panel, It kinda looks to have the same features of a RaQ's control panel, just a neater layout.

Regards,

Mike

JBIZ718
04-03-2001, 08:08 AM
It looks like finally ensim is playing ball with there panel.

There going to be the first company out there to offer a great panel for all OS's.

I would have to say that 250 domains would probably be a max on any server.

Overall there website is looking pretty good. Ensim is now a cost effective solution.

Joe

Domenico
04-03-2001, 08:33 AM
One of my websites is powered by an Ensim CP and I don't really think it's that cool.

Where are the really important user management options?
Why do we have to buy seperate software for these kind of functions?
I am talking about when a users signed in and how long his contratc is and wich package he uses and automatice invoices and that kind of stuff.

For me the ensim CP doesn't mean much and I still prefer raw telnet or free WEBMIN over these kind of CP's

It's just the same as the others. Just basic stuff and nothing more. I still have to buy additional software wich is expensive but could be standard without any problem ;-(

Domenico

JeremyL
04-03-2001, 11:17 AM
It looks like they did get their design inspiration from the raq but who cares.

AS far as billing goes CP/WHM is **** for that anyway so that is not much different. But I did notice some things that are sorely missing.

1. For one thing there is no way to store which ip's you have assigned to the server so when you create a new account all you have to do select the ip from a drop down box.
2. Also I see no way of creating sub domains.
3. And lastly there is no way to have normal resellers from what I can tell.

JBIZ718
04-03-2001, 02:47 PM
Well, it is quite easy to create Ip's and store sub domains.

In regards to storing IP's i simple excel spreadsheet works.

In regards to a resellers panel, creating private servers gets you into a different market all together.

The panel is the best on the market, but does have some flaws.

Joe

JeremyL
04-03-2001, 03:03 PM
I thought creating private servers was just on the serverxchange and not the standalone LS?

Also with the private server method how would you keep track of what your reseller has sold and I sure don't want a reseller being able to mess with server configurations even if it only affects their part.

Also what bugs have you found?

thewebbie
04-03-2001, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by JBIZ718

The panel is the best on the market, but does have some flaws.


Can anyone tell me if there will ever be just 1 control panel that will make everyone happy? I think not, but not because someone does not try. But because there are too many know-it-alls that want to control every bit of the server from the command prompt and the control panel. What everyone forgets is that the control-panel is for the end customer ease of use.. not for your ease of use.

just my 2 cents

JeremyL
04-03-2001, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by thewebbie
What everyone forgets is that the control-panel is for the end customer ease of use.. not for your ease of use.

just my 2 cents




I disagree, it should help streamline the hosts end too to be a really great product.

thewebbie
04-04-2001, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by JeremyL

I disagree, it should help streamline the hosts end too to be a really great product. [/B]

What I meant was that there is no need to go into the server and start modifying the enviornment. After all a Control Panel is all about having the Web Based Control.

I think this Ensim Webppliance is meant to be an appliance, hence the Name 'web'ppliance.

The question remain; why would you want a Control Panel to make it easy and then complain you have a lack of control?

Phiberop
04-04-2001, 01:00 AM
I think what Jeremy is trying to say is he would like to be able to do more from the control panel to administer the server as well as provide a good control panel to his end users. I use RaQ's now and it can be a pain switching between the control panel and a command prompt. Im the kind of person that likes to have as many commands piled into the same area at once instead of moving between different applications to do certain things.

Personally, if I had my choice I would go with Cpanel, but we will see what ensim is capable of very very soon and hey, who knows :)

Regards,

Mike

allan
04-04-2001, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by Phiberop

Personally, if I had my choice I would go with Cpanel, but we will see what ensim is capable of very very soon and hey, who knows :)


CPanel bothers me because I don't like paying $199 a month indefinately for software. I would rather pay a one-time fee or pay a smaller monthly fee for a defined period of time.