I have only three of these servers. I am offering them at $149 per month $75 setup.

Intel Pentium III 500 MHZ
128MB ECC RAM
9GB SCSI HD
40GB burstable bandwidth (by the average)
10 IPs
RedHat 6.1
Server Interface
Chilisoft ASP
OC12 connectivity
99.9% Uptime

No contracts required.

Please contact me at ronnie@americanservers.net


[Edited by sebados on 03-23-2001 at 11:17 PM]

What is the server interface that you talk about?
Do you install MySQL and PHP4.04pl1 as default?

James

MySQL and PHP are not installed by defeault.

Here you can find out more info about the server interface:
http://americanservers.net/dedicated/interface.htm

Do you have any of these servers still available at that price?

--James

Sorry, today I sold the last one.

This is what I can offer you:

Intel Pentium III 550 MHZ
128MB ECC RAM
9.1GB IBM SCSI HD
65GB burstable bandwidth (average)
25 IPs
RedHat 6.1
Server Interface

$99 setup
$210 per month

Dialtone Internet reseller - They're using the Dialtone Internet control panel.

Not that this is a "bad" thing, but we've heard stories regarding Dialtone. Do a search here.

[Edited by Mike on 03-27-2001 at 11:19 AM]

Mike,

I can´t get your point. Anyone can easily know who is our provider. We have chosen Dialtone because we think they are
a reliable company with an excelent connectivity.
Our servers have never been down since we are in Dialtone.

We use Dialtone developed control panel because its free to us. But we can also install webmin or plesk.

Are you suggesting James not to go with AmericanServers because you have heard stories about Dialtone. Please explain.

Ok.. To name a couple of things...

The DI control panel lacks in a BIG way.. Also, there is much debate over DI's 95th percentile billing method for bandwidth.

I am not saying that DI is a bad company in any way - Their customer service seems to be top notch. But it is just fair to make sure that those that have had or heard of "not so good" experiences know the source.

As you can read above bandiwdth is measured by the average and we also offer other control panels.

Originally posted by Mike
Ok.. To name a couple of things...

The DI control panel lacks in a BIG way.. Also, there is much debate over DI's 95th percentile billing method for bandwidth.

From the price structure of this serevr, I have a good guess that he is reselling for DI. So what? Do a search here. You will see (if I am not mistaken) DI has changed its 955h %ile rule to average. Personally, I think DI is still a good NOC...

cheers,
:beer:

Any good NOC will require you to be billed at 95th percentile. I'd be wary of those that don't.

Think about it.

Cheers,

Raj

Originally posted by nopzor
Any good NOC will require you to be billed at 95th percentile. I'd be wary of those that don't.


True. But even though some NOCs charge their customers (hosts) by the 95th does not mean that they in turn need to charge their clients by the 95th.

Think about it.

I'm in agreement :-)

I specifically said NOC. By NOC I mean the entity that brings in the connectivity and deals directly with the providers and is responsible for new line provision.

AFAIK DI is in this role. Hence, I think that they are perfectly justified charging 95th percentile.

<b>Think about it :-)!</b>

Raj

Originally posted by WeinBar
Originally posted by nopzor
Any good NOC will require you to be billed at 95th percentile. I'd be wary of those that don't.


True. But even though some NOCs charge their customers (hosts) by the 95th does not mean that they in turn need to charge their clients by the 95th.

Think about it.

OK - I am a dunce... what do you mean by "95th percentile" :)

--James

I agree on some points, and not on other's. It really depends on the size of the connection. (This is the same for the NOC and client, not just the NOC and backbone, but...) NOC's pay by 95% to the backbone provider, so they can ensure they have enough bandwidth to spare at peek times, without choking. If the line is large enough, it can handle the peek times and the NOC doesn't have to pay by 95% usage to have a good provider and be able to provide the bandwidth they promise to their client's -- and can pay on actual and pass it along to their clients for that reason. It reminds me of the "If it's not a DS3 or OC3, it's too small" debate. That's simply not true, it depends on what client's you cater to, since the majority of hosted sites on any service, don't usually use that much bandwidth anyway. It's fine for some and not other's, it just depends.

Percentile billing also depends, and mainly on the size of the NOC's connections and what site's they host. It can be planned well and honestly and the NOC's can actually provide every bit they promise, if they do it right. Many don't, which accounts for the paranoia and rightfully so. But billing on average or actual alone, isn't a bad sign either, for the reasons mentioned above... even if it can add that risk element, it's not a sure sign it's a bad thing either.

Originally posted by WildWayz
OK - I am a dunce... what do you mean by "95th percentile" :)

--James

My super short bandwidth explanation...

Two methods: Capped & Burstable.
Capped: limited to a certain speed.
Burstable: not limited to a certain speed.

Burstable divided into two methods: Average & 95 percentile.
Average: billed as the average of your traffic (spikes and all).
95 Percentile: similar, yet you are billed at the highest speed you needed that month, minus the top 5% for the whole month.

Note this is a super condensed explanation and might not take into account every method, nor does it explain the advantages/disadvantages of everything.