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View Full Version : Teen Geek Needs Job
I am in need of job, preferably in tech support or customer service.
My knowledge is fairly broad; I know how to use: Linux, MacOS, Win9x, and WinNT 4.0 Workstation.
I have been using the internet for more than 5 years, and building my own computers for 3 years.
Please contact me via e-mail at jty@wolfenet.com
dektong 03-26-2001, 11:34 AM Originally posted by JTY
My knowledge is fairly broad; I know how to use: Linux, MacOS, Win9x, and WinNT 4.0 Workstation.
Can you be more specific? Broad is OK, but depth is more important.
cheers,
:beer:
I am fully capable of being a Linux system administrator. I have expierence configuring Sendmail, Apache, and other general things.
As far as Windows and Mac, I mostly have general knowledge, e.g. network setup, e-mail, ftp, etc.
Synergy 03-26-2001, 07:22 PM Whats your age?
TheComputerGuy 03-26-2001, 07:31 PM I will hire you if you work for free
does age really matter if he gets the job done,
My two cents!!
X-treme 03-26-2001, 08:25 PM What hours are you available to work. (Honestly) and what type of income are you looking for?? Are you reliable??
If you want contact me at xtremedesigns@zxmail.com with the above info..
X-treme
PS. I am interested in your Linux capabilities but we may have a use for you, for our upcoming NT servers also..
Synergy,
I'm 16.....
BTW: Yes, I am reliable......
Hey,
Do you go to school? We may want you for some small tech support jobs, and/or customer support. Hey, you might as well just send me an email at info@rnwebdesign.com and we will get back to you.
Jim
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RN Web Design & Hosting
http://www.rnwebdesign.com
KDAWebServices 03-29-2001, 06:24 PM Originally posted by TheComputerGuy
does age really matter if he gets the job done
Yes, I would never hire anyone who I couldn't pin down on a legally binding contract. Would you want to let someone loose on your clients and their data who you didn't have some recompence against? I know I wouldn't.
bteeter 03-30-2001, 12:15 PM Call me untrusting, but I would give anyone my server root passwords that I met via BBS. Hell, I wouldn't give it out to many of the people I know personally! :-)
If I was a person looking to hire someone in a situation like this, I'd definitely go through the formal interview process, even if it was over the phone. Assuming the individual checked out and knew their stuff, I'd then ensure that the individual could legally sign a contract (ie. Over 18), and make them do so. If they couldn't sign a contract, then there is no way I would even think about it.
Not to mention there are child labor laws to consider. If you are under 18 you can only work certain hours of the day. So a young tech rep might have to stop working at 7pm or 9pm (depending on age, and day of the week) and leave your customers hanging until it is legal for them to work again the next day. Sure they COULD work later, but the minute you get busted for breaking child labor laws, you'll find out just how NOT smart it was.
My 2 cents,
Brian
Chicken 03-31-2001, 12:00 AM Just in case it helps, John was on my server and although he didn't have root pass or anything like that, I had no problems with him as a client. not sure what it is worth, but just letting you know I've had personal experience (to a degree) with John.
DigitalXWeb 03-31-2001, 05:13 PM No offense to anyone but I would not consider anyone that is not able to legally be bound by a contract or legal agreement either, for various reasons including security and privacy. I would make an exception if I personally knew the person and consider them trustworthy however.
Brian
TheComputerGuy 03-31-2001, 06:23 PM I see what you are saying, and agree, I did not think that before I typed in the comment.
Tim Greer 03-31-2001, 06:34 PM Originally posted by DigitalXWeb
No offense to anyone but I would not consider anyone that is not able to legally be bound by a contract or legal agreement either, for various reasons including security and privacy. I would make an exception if I personally knew the person and consider them trustworthy however.
Brian
I don't think age has much to do with a privacy or security concern, as that's an issue no matter what the person's age. However all the rest of the arguments are valid, surely, and without offense to under-age employees, these are legitimate concerns.
DigitalXWeb 03-31-2001, 09:20 PM Originally posted by Tim_Greer
I don't think age has much to do with a privacy or security concern, as that's an issue no matter what the person's age. However all the rest of the arguments are valid, surely, and without offense to under-age employees, these are legitimate concerns.
Perhaps I worded my response wrong. I thoroughly agree with what you are saying Tim, age does not matter with those issues. What I meant though was the fact that he is 16 and can not be legally bound by a contract adds a greater risk to a potential employer.
As I stated this is not intended to offend anyone I just think it would be wise to look at the legal stand point for both yourself and your clients. I apoligize if I came across the wrong way in my last post.
Regards,
Brian P.
Tim Greer 03-31-2001, 09:49 PM Originally posted by DigitalXWeb
Originally posted by Tim_Greer
I don't think age has much to do with a privacy or security concern, as that's an issue no matter what the person's age. However all the rest of the arguments are valid, surely, and without offense to under-age employees, these are legitimate concerns.
Perhaps I worded my response wrong. I thoroughly agree with what you are saying Tim, age does not matter with those issues. What I meant though was the fact that he is 16 and can not be legally bound by a contract adds a greater risk to a potential employer.
As I stated this is not intended to offend anyone I just think it would be wise to look at the legal stand point for both yourself and your clients. I apoligize if I came across the wrong way in my last post.
Regards,
Brian P.
I didn't mean to assume you meant younger people can't be trusted or honest, certainly. Thanks for clearing that up though. And, I and other's completely agree with this logic. I don't believe anyone younger ought to be offended by this logic, it's just the way it goes. There are limitations to being younger and it's not fun to deal with, but I'm sure the younger crowd is aware of this and agrees that company's shouldn't risk it.
There may be some company's that (for example, in the UK) could do this and have some sort of employement situation where they can fit them in, but in the US, it's just not a wise decision, for the reasons mentioned throughout this thread, as well as other's. My opinion is, if you can get away with it, don't work.. go out and have fun, before you have no choice but to work. *L*
brandonk 03-31-2001, 11:08 PM Couldn't he work as a private contractor, that way you wouldn't have to worry about child labor laws?
John - do you have parents that are over 18? If so I'm pretty sure you could get a contract signed by them, that would be valid.
Thanks,
Brandon
Yes, my parents are over 18.
Tim Greer 04-01-2001, 07:34 AM Originally posted by brandonk
Couldn't he work as a private contractor, that way you wouldn't have to worry about child labor laws?
John - do you have parents that are over 18? If so I'm pretty sure you could get a contract signed by them, that would be valid.
Thanks,
Brandon
Having other people sign a contract stating their child promises to do work, doesn't sounds very promising.
MasterMindz 04-01-2001, 11:39 AM You can always have him do small jobs such as designing or answering support e-mails (BCC mail he's sending to you or something) where you can monitor his work and it allows him to work from home. I don't think he's looking for a full-time job that requires a lot of commitment from him if he's in school.
brandonk 04-01-2001, 01:03 PM Originally posted by Tim_Greer
Having other people sign a contract stating their child promises to do work, doesn't sounds very promising.
I thought the problem was with trust, and what you would be able to do if he did something he shouldn't have. A contract with his parents would allow you to go after them. After all...why would he be asking for a job if he didn't want to work?
Thanks,
Brandon
Tim Greer 04-01-2001, 05:41 PM Originally posted by brandonk
Originally posted by Tim_Greer
Having other people sign a contract stating their child promises to do work, doesn't sounds very promising.
I thought the problem was with trust, and what you would be able to do if he did something he shouldn't have. A contract with his parents would allow you to go after them. After all...why would he be asking for a job if he didn't want to work?
Thanks,
Brandon
I just don't know if that's actually a legally binding thing. And, I didn't say it was ever about trust or not. Anyway, I think the only true way to be able to do some work, would be for that person to do some work (basically on their own, in a matter of speaking) and then sell the work to you. I mean, if they did something on their own, no matter what time they decided to spend and sold the resulting service(s), that's legal... but I'm not sure how well that would work for other things. I don't know, I'm sure there's got to be some solution and maybe the parents signing a contract would be legally binding, I'm just not sure it is in that situation?
mkaufman 04-01-2001, 06:54 PM If a gaurdian or parent signs a contract for a minor (considering the parent is over 18) it's perfectly legal.
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