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View Full Version : What does everyone think of affordable colo?
OneStop 09-12-2002, 10:48 PM I am about to colocate with charles from affordable colo and i'm curious as to what people think of his business practices and the affordable colo company.
I did a wht search, not to many things on them. Personal opinions are OK and i'd like to hear from customers also.
JBIZ718 09-12-2002, 11:11 PM Good Company.
You can not go wrong.
AntiSpamHosts 09-13-2002, 01:20 AM I'm sure he can go wrong somehow :rolleyes:
clocker1996 09-13-2002, 01:26 AM I think they are still moving offices, or have been for the last 2-3 months, can anyone confirm this?
cbaker17 09-13-2002, 01:33 AM you people are nuts, still moving offices, we moved like 3 months ago?
AntiSpamHosts 09-13-2002, 01:40 AM No one better to confirm something than the man himself.
BTW, 350 Posts...AspiringEvangilist...WooHoo.
cbaker17 09-13-2002, 01:42 AM dreamhobo are you trying to bump up your post count by posting non sence as youve never even used us. in ref: to you saying im sure he can go wrong somewhere
nm, just realized after visiting the main page that hes posting non sence to bump up is post count, he has managed to post in every singe new thread that showed up. Dreamhobo you dont get a price for the most spam...
pixelONE 09-13-2002, 01:57 AM Hello,
We been with AffordableColo for quite awhile now and Charles has been more then helpful and worked with us as many ways possible. Myself and Charles has talked on the phone countless hours of the day.
Service - A++
Support - A++
Uptime 100%
Charles Friendiness - 99.5%
Alan - Vox 09-13-2002, 01:59 AM I use affordableservers.net, good service :) He goes out of his way to help you when you have a problem, which is great :)
pixelONE 09-13-2002, 02:01 AM Originally posted by SplashHost.com
He goes out of his way to help you when you have a problem, which is great :)
Agreeded. Just wish he wouldn't bill you so damn much..
cbaker17 09-13-2002, 02:02 AM yes i wish our providers didnt bill us so much too :)
netdude 09-13-2002, 02:09 AM i thought yipes was one of the cheaper providers out there?
(don't get me wrong, i have MUCH more respect for yipes than cogent... yipes has better connectivity...)
i m sayin' yipes cuz thats the only provider servicing the IP 66.7.146.30, your site's IP...
cbaker17 09-13-2002, 02:12 AM heh nope yipes aint cheap, cant tell you how much i pay but its about 7x as much as cogent, and i get a real good deal through yipes.
Someone started the yipes is cheaper then anyone rumor on here, but yipes is actually a little more expensive then internap.
I think unless im wrong onestop is prob getting cogent bandwidth. We prefer for corporate sites not to run on cogent bandwidth but if customers desire it we will deliver it.
netdude 09-13-2002, 02:16 AM i dunno dude... i've got my quote from yipes lying around here somewhere... it was pretty cheap... internap is premium... if yipes were that expensive, someone would have to be braindead to pick them over internap... i ain't even taking cogent into consideration, they're a joke and we both know it...
yipes is like the one just a step up from cogent on my list... but a world of difference in terms of quality, from cogent... (cogent is just that damn low)...
so... why u using yipes instead of internap then?
netdude 09-13-2002, 02:19 AM u know what has always pissed me off about service providers tho? providers that have testimonials/customer comments... and post a name up... but... provide no way of contacting/verifying these names... i mean... whats the point? give a false sense of safety in the event the name is a fake? why not post a site URL with it as well... if the client made the testimonial, surely they wouldn't have a problem with getting an email every now and then... maybe a phone call or two... eh? do they not have that much faith in the service?
cbaker17 09-13-2002, 02:19 AM you apprant have never used yipes netdude, your going to see the same speed from yipes as you would internap, much repsect to internap because i like their routing, but apples to apples yipes is just as fast if not faster in some cases. And i know they sales managers for both internap and yipes so trust me their about the same in price depending on what volume you committ at.
Anyhow were a bit off topic anyhow :)
netdude 09-13-2002, 02:23 AM say yipes were ~$200/Mbps... why not go with verio? in even minor volume, verio does get that cheap... heh... and i'd rank them atleast higher than yipes... how about level3? they definately higher than yipes... :)
netdude 09-13-2002, 02:25 AM not really off topic... talking about your choice in bandwidth providers... :P and that does matter to the end user/client, doesn't it?
:P
not trying to make enemies... but its fun having debates... hehe
netdude 09-13-2002, 02:31 AM so... as everybody on WHT has probably figured out by now... i have no social life... i've reviewed most of these backbones since they were designed... and i've got to say... how could u possibly come up with yipes being better than internap?? no major business would even trust their site with yipes... yet even nasdaq uses internap... ??? but as for performance... internap has always been faster for me... (talking about 2 sites, same city/etc, similar server makeup)... and the actual path... my isp -> genuity -> yipes or internap -> site... so trace looked pretty similar too... heh
vox-fred 09-13-2002, 07:32 AM Originally posted by pixelONE
Hello,
We been with AffordableColo for quite awhile now and Charles has been more then helpful and worked with us as many ways possible. Myself and Charles has talked on the phone countless hours of the day.
Service - A++
Support - A++
Uptime 100%
Charles Friendiness - 99.5%
I would agree with most of that, you won't go wrong by choosing AffordableColo.
StevenG 09-13-2002, 07:44 AM Charles Friendiness - 99.5%
What did he do wrong for that ... .5% deduction? :D
Originally posted by netdude
so... as everybody on WHT has probably figured out by now... i have no social life... i've reviewed most of these backbones since they were designed... and i've got to say... how could u possibly come up with yipes being better than internap?? no major business would even trust their site with yipes... yet even nasdaq uses internap... ??? but as for performance... internap has always been faster for me... (talking about 2 sites, same city/etc, similar server makeup)... and the actual path... my isp -> genuity -> yipes or internap -> site... so trace looked pretty similar too... heh
But have you ever used Yipes? How can you base everything upon meaningless tracerts? If you have actually used yipes, then I'd say you have the right to complain. But since you most likely haven't, then you're flamming.
I myself have used yipes, and they are very good. Actually, as a matter of fact they're right up there with Internap.
:)
FHDave 09-13-2002, 10:40 AM Originally posted by cbaker17
Someone started the yipes is cheaper then anyone rumor on here, but yipes is actually a little more expensive then internap.
If that's true, and if I were you, I would jump ship to Internap already :) Nasdaq, American Airlines, Travelocity, McAffee, etc all know exactly why internap is the best ... and if it's cheaper than yipes, well, that makes it so much better .... :)
OneStop 09-13-2002, 11:00 AM I have used Yipes! before. VERY high quality. 0ms to all their providers (bbn/Level3). I got better service from Yipes! than anyone I ever went with. They really bend over backwards for you.
As for affordable colo, i'm sighning up. Thanks everyone, I feel safe with them now. :)
Rebies 09-13-2002, 01:48 PM Somewhat Off Topic:
What exactly are Yipes, Cognet, Nocster, Internap, etc..? Are they companies that have low latency backbone connections that web hosting companies use for their Internet connections?
If so, it sounds like Charles is using Yipes, right? Well what about having redundant connections? Where else is the other connection(s) coming from at affordablecolo?
Andrew
cbaker17 09-13-2002, 02:23 PM you have the options of yipes (level3 and genuity), cogent, and uunet. Depending on what you want to spend you can be single homed with say cogent or multihomed with uunet and yipes etc.. just depends on what you want to pay, we also have access to a variety of other carriers inside the colo and any carriers outside of the colo as well with a nominal local loop charge. SO basically you have a need, we can meet it.
netdude 09-13-2002, 04:07 PM who says i haven't used yipes? i've used the majority of the backbone providers out there... at one point or another... the benefit of being in the business for the last 7 years
Originally posted by 311
But have you ever used Yipes? How can you base everything upon meaningless tracerts? If you have actually used yipes, then I'd say you have the right to complain. But since you most likely haven't, then you're flamming.
I myself have used yipes, and they are very good. Actually, as a matter of fact they're right up there with Internap.
:)
JBIZ718 09-13-2002, 04:13 PM I would say that most of wall street and the banking world use savvis. Yipes is very fast and also internap is very fast. I wouldnt say yipes is slower then internap and the other way around.
Ive used yipes since they first came out, and they are darn fast and I have pulled some great speed. Then again I have used internap and have seen great speeds.
In the end who really cares its bandwidth, and they both get your data quick
netdude 09-13-2002, 05:12 PM savvis?
got any examples of companies using savvis? most of the banks, that i can c, use att/uunet/worldcom/internap... most of the major ecommerce and online services use exodus...
Lucent, Scottsdale Securities, Inc., United Bank Corp, City of Philadelphia, LookSmart, Americom, Inc. and a ton more all use savvis. They're bigger than you think...:)
netdude 09-13-2002, 05:34 PM looksmart ain't that huge... but they use above.net as their primary... savvis as their secondary... :P i remember they screwed eFront outa a few hundred thousand dollars because they couldn't afford to pay (plus some other issues with efront too)...
Americom, Inc.... the long distance telco company? cuz they use broadband solutions america... who uses ELI and TouchAmerica...
lucent uses internap... but they also have feeds from uunet, singnet (in singapore) and embratel (in brazil)... their bell labratories has two feeds... one from uunet, one from savvis...
City of Philadelphia... finally, one where savvis is the primary provider... well, in this case... the only provider... whoop-diddly-do... a city's website... how many visitors u think they get per day to that site? what kinda damage if that site were to be down for an hour?
united bank corp ... hmm... got a url for 'em?
RackMy.com 09-13-2002, 05:40 PM netdude, you really may want to check your facts. Savvis does run about 65% + of the financial systems in the US. They also run like 95% of Reuters' network.
netdude 09-13-2002, 05:55 PM but thats their backend connectivity... not the internet... :P imagine it to be like a peering facility like PAIX or MAE-WEST... but without the internet component... just data going between two points...
the bandwidth usage is so low, its infeasible (thats a word, right? lol) for the mainstream providers to go for... because the performance/reliability requirements are so stringent for these bandwidth levels... throwing their pricing structures outa whack when compared to the main internet services...
reuter's internet infrastructure is handled by internap... hehe
Originally posted by netdude
say yipes were ~$200/Mbps... why not go with verio? in even minor volume, verio does get that cheap... heh... and i'd rank them atleast higher than yipes... how about level3? they definately higher than yipes... :)
This statement just shows how little you know about yipes. First of all, yipes isn't really a backbone...its a metro area transport provider. And your comment about level 3 just goes to show you have no idea. Yipes basically is level 3 and bbn, aggregated, balanced, and routed. Data to/from a yipes network will only be on yipes for a few hops. Verio is terrible. They have limited connections between cities and packets end up having to go to their major exchanges on the west coast, chicago, or the east coast.
RackMy.com 09-13-2002, 09:24 PM netdude, again you may want to check your facts on Savvis as they are pretty much all wrong.
AcuNett 09-13-2002, 09:33 PM Ok, I just read the first page of posts, so I'm continuing the conversation on the first page:
I LOVE YIPES.
netdude 09-13-2002, 09:38 PM how would they be wrong? savvis' financial network is somewhat independant of the internet side... to over simplify it, they have one hella big VPN for their financial side... maybe this will clarify it for you: http://www.savvis.net/financial/attach/financial_brochure.pdf ...
jw, don't worry, i'm getting a reply prepared for you...
Originally posted by RackMy.com
netdude, again you may want to check your facts on Savvis as they are pretty much all wrong.
JohnCrowley 09-13-2002, 09:42 PM Originally posted by jw
This statement just shows how little you know about yipes. First of all, yipes isn't really a backbone...its a metro area transport provider. And your comment about level 3 just goes to show you have no idea. Yipes basically is level 3 and bbn, aggregated, balanced, and routed. Data to/from a yipes network will only be on yipes for a few hops. Verio is terrible. They have limited connections between cities and packets end up having to go to their major exchanges on the west coast, chicago, or the east coast.
Right on the money Justin IMHO :)
Netdude reminds me of Cliff Claven (Cheers) in some of these posts :D
- John C.
netdude 09-13-2002, 09:48 PM who was Cliff Claven ? :)
[EDIT]
nevermind, figured it out... lol
Chicken 09-13-2002, 10:17 PM I'm nto sure any of this even remotely addresses the thread starter's question:
What does everyone think of affordable colo?
How 'bout we start another thread to discuss what networks the financial systems are on, which is better, etc. Let's get this thread back on track.
have one server colocated with AffordableColo which just made its "1 Yr Anniversary" and that IMHO is one of the best business decisions we made!! I dont think you can ever go wrong with Charles & co. very professional and service is great. ;)
Cheers
JBIZ718 09-14-2002, 01:25 AM Chicken but this conversation is so interesting
Rebies 09-14-2002, 01:55 PM Originally posted by JBIZ718
Chicken but this conversation is so interesting I agree with Chicken. A new topic should be started then, because this topic is about affordablecolo...
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