All the staff at dnslinux.com wish to express there condolences to all the familes and friends who where effected by the tragic events which occurred on Sep 11th 2001.

May we hope for a better future.

(Mods-Sorry if this is in the wrong forum)

Amen.
Now lets just hope Bush and his army (and our AU Army :p) can wipeout all those terrorist arabs.
- Ross
admin@ultralogic.net

Amen to that..


My view of arabs has changed dramatically. While I know not all believe what was done is right, I still.. can't trust them atm.


Our AU army.. lol.. well yeah.. the army we have I suppose helps :)


I just don't understand how the whole world can't find 1 man..

It is just stupid!

I think, Osama has been dead, although that is still, yet a theory.

The hunt for 1 man I think, has ended. People say he died when the US fighter planes attacked them.

Let's look into our future now and do good work.

Possibly.. but nothing should be stopped until all terrorists have been taken care off..

I'd like to add my sympathies to the families and friends of all those affected by the tragic actions, of this time last year.

Without getting into controversy, I don't believe you can blame and entire culture for the actions of a minority within that culture. Certainly terrorism is the most dispicable of actions, and, in regard to this situation, the people of the middle east cannot nor should not as a whole be held responsible. The blame for this atrocity lays squarely at the feet of the terrorists.

For those of you who feel that all arabs should suffer, does that mean all Irish should suffer because of the terrorist actions of the IRA?

Reflect, mourn, and make a concerted effort to improve the lives of yourselves, your family and your friends, but let go of hatred. Hatred makes us no better than the people who caused it in the first place.

Let peace reign supreme.

It seems those whom are in disagreeance with the terrorists actions whom are arabs are a minority.

All the arabs around me cant be happier and continue to exclaim how much america "brought it on themselves".

:eek:

Yes, I agree with Reseller. You cant blame an entire country or religion because of the actions of minority. Why cant people live and let live?

Yes, peace is good.. but try explaining that to the terrorists :angry:


I am saying we need to get rid of the terrorists.. then live peacefully :)

faculty,
I totally agree. I've even seen middle aged arab ladies yelling out "you deserved it". And how about the kids joining Bin Laden's Al Quida? In my opinion, all arabs should be given a polygraph (lie detector) test, to see what their opinions are on Osama and his terrorist actions. Then whoever supports Osama, should be wiped out. Im guessing it would be the bulk of arabs.
- Ross

Lets hope that Bush's army dosent trample all of our civil rights to death in the process of catching the terrorists too. So far, this has been a banner year for communism.

Arabs as a race have done nothing to deserve the type of treatment they have been getting. I read a story in the newspaper about someone shooting out the windows of a Arab-American family while yelling some anti-arab rants. I really feel sorry for them.

Originally posted by admin2
faculty,
I totally agree. I've even seen middle aged arab ladies yelling out "you deserved it". And how about the kids joining Bin Laden's Al Quida? In my opinion, all arabs should be given a polygraph (lie detector) test, to see what their opinions are on Osama and his terrorist actions. Then whoever supports Osama, should be wiped out. Im guessing it would be the bulk of arabs.
- Ross

Wow. How about, while we're at it let's put Americans on the polygraph and ask them how patriotic they are, and if they aren't patriotic enough, we should wipe them out.

Heck, let's wipe everyone out that doesn't agree with American policy 100%, it'd make things much easier.

Yes,
there's always the innocent ones. I feel sorry for them too, it's happening all over the world, they're getting treated like $h1t.
Maybe once all the bad ones are gone, the others can live in peace
- Ross

by the way, what can this web hosting community @ WHT contribute to the sep 11 thing? have you guys thought of any?

I read some reports said that some of the terrorist groups have servers colocated in the U.S, and this websites/servers are used for propaganda, entice new recruits, strategic planning and so on. Further, the report says the Internet is the new frontier of war against terrorism, so ... the question remains ... what can webhosting community contributes to this?

I just pray for peace -- a peaceful Earth.

Originally posted by GSDSM
I just pray for peace -- a peaceful Earth.
Amen :)

I would also like to add my condolences to the families who were affected by September 11th 2001.
Any many those who lost their lives rest in peace.

I found a flash memorial movie this morning
http://www.myleague.com/lpl/

It takes quite a long time to load, but it brought tears to my eyes

God Bless

Originally posted by tazd9t9
I found a flash memorial movie this morning
http://www.myleague.com/lpl/

It takes quite a long time to load, but it brought tears to my eyesI think the site is down can’t access the flash movie, getting a ‘The page cannot be displayed’ error…wrong URL maybe?

I can't cry for stupidity. The United States of America brought this onto themselves, and playing the Trump Card with the world catches up to you sometime. Example: 9-11-01.

Toefur
Youre obviously clueless.
Theres way too many people on this forum that invent things out of nothing. Stop talking crap and go live in Arab City of something
- Ross

Originally posted by faculty
All the arabs around me cant be happier and continue to exclaim how much america "brought it on themselves".

If you think about it...our foreign policy in the Middle East wasn't too good to start out with. We did a bunch of things that were hypocritical (we slept with Saddam Hussein in the 1980's then fought the Gulf War, removed democratic leaders in certain nations like Iran and instituted dictators who supported America and their need for oil, etc etc.) The US being Israel's primary ally doesn't help much either.

However, those people probably were ignorant of how many civilians in both of those towers didn't know about what we were doing in the Middle East. If they had known, they probably wouldn't be saying stuff like that.

Originally posted by Richard Ward
I can't cry for stupidity. The United States of America brought this onto themselves, and playing the Trump Card with the world catches up to you sometime. Example: 9-11-01.

No one deserves to be murdered, even if US foreign policy was a piece of crap. :(

mind21_98
100% right you are.
No one deserves what happened on 9/11.
Especially innocent people who were totally defenceless.
No matter how screwed up the US is with their views on the middle-east, it still shouldn't of come to that.
- Ross
PS: you think bin laden had it worked out so that the date matched the USA emergency number? 911 as opposed to 9/11

Originally posted by Richard Ward
I can't cry for stupidity. The United States of America brought this onto themselves, and playing the Trump Card with the world catches up to you sometime. Example: 9-11-01.

You know I started writing a long response to you but then it dawned on me that ignorance can be taught but stupid is forever and I have a feeling you are the latter, so it would be a waste of time and effort.

I am however glad you posted because I have a customer I do not know what to really do with, see he has a web site that is using on avg 80 gig a month and 5 gig of space and he is loading down my server. But since I found your web site for $9.00 he can sign up with you and load your server down.

I quote from your web site.

"Storage Space:
We offer unlimited storage space on all of our web hosting packages. Use as much or as little as you need. This is, however, not to be used for sharing or "dumping" movies, MP3s, pornographic or illegal content, and must be in use by your site. We are not selling you a "dump site," we are selling you the freedom to expand your website without limits.

Traffic Allowance:
We have been offering unlimited traffic for many months and don't see any reason to change. Monitoring every site we host would take an entire team of people who'd be better giving you technical support. This is, however, not to be used for sharing or "dumping" movies, MP3s, pornographic or illegal content, and must be in use by your site."


His site falls within your guide lines.:D

I am shocked to see so many racist (that seems to be the best word to describe it) people here on WHT. :rolleyes:

- Omar

Originally posted by admin2
PS: you think bin laden had it worked out so that the date matched the USA emergency number? 911 as opposed to 9/11

It's possible. It sounds like bin Laden's saying "help us, America, or we will do far worse things to you", although since his entire group hates America that most likely wouldn't be his message.

Originally posted by Richard Ward
I can't cry for stupidity. The United States of America brought this onto themselves, and playing the Trump Card with the world catches up to you sometime. Example: 9-11-01. I can’t believe you said that, that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, just because one doesn’t agree with US foreign policy gives them NO right to do what they did :rolleyes:

Originally posted by ionServ
I am shocked to see so many racist (that seems to be the best word to describe it) people here on WHT. :rolleyes:

- Omar

Racism hasn't disappeared like we've been taught to think. It just went underground. Then 9/11 hit, and it suddenly became acceptable to be racist again, especially if it's against an Arab. ("They won't sell us oil for one cent a barrel, so they should die!") :(

Our prayers and support go out, not in the rememberance of the terror that happened one year from today, but in the rememberence of the moms, dads, firefighters, loved ones, sons and daughters who lost their life that one morning just a year ago.

For those of you who join me, our hearts go out to all of the families. We will not let this bring us down, but only lift us up and grow stronger.

Let us not forget how these cowards attacked unsuspecting people. There will always be those who envy how strong and resilient America has been throughout history. They yearn for our freedom and independence.

These people were not terrorists and can be defined as cowards. The word terror implies fear and I only have fear for those that strike the heart of America.

"Yesterday is but a memory, Tomorrow an uncharted course,
So live today so it will be a memory without remorse."
- Edgar Cayce

Originally posted by Richard Ward
I can't cry for stupidity. The United States of America brought this onto themselves, and playing the Trump Card with the world catches up to you sometime. Example: 9-11-01.

The ignorance of some people amazes me. You sir, are truly a ....

Never mind, you're not worth it.

I love how racists just can't spell. Sloppy thinking throughout...

If some certain people didnt go through with such stupid actions, people wouldnt' be racist :)

We have Osama to thank for all this!


What a dickhead.

I can't cry for stupidity. The United States of America brought this onto themselves, and playing the Trump Card with the world catches up to you sometime. Example: 9-11-01.
Maybe you would be singing a different tune if you lost family/ friends that you loved! This is not an American problem.....its a world problem.

Originally posted by Richard Ward
I ***************************************************************. Sad that there has to be trolls in this thread.

Originally posted by Richard Ward
I can't cry for stupidity. The United States of America brought this onto themselves, and playing the Trump Card with the world catches up to you sometime. Example: 9-11-01.


I am guessing a radical supporter of Osama in Pajamas! Anyone else want to guess where this guy is coming from?

That site is working again now
http://www.myleague.com/lpl/

I can't cry for stupidity. The United States of America brought this onto themselves, and playing the Trump Card with the world catches up to you sometime. Example: 9-11-01.

Ugh. That's sickening, absolutely sickening.
There were hundreds of innocent people who were killed... people who were just going to work, or visiting a landmark. They didn't "play the Trump Card with the world", they were just going about their lives. They had kids and families... have you ever tried going to the NYC fireman memorial page set up?
Those people had children and wives to come home to... but they gave their lives trying to save others who were victims of the attack. They did nothing wrong--they surely weren't the ones who wrote the crappy foreign policies.

I agree with Monte: writing out a long response to you would be useless, seeing as how something in that head of yours isn't working right...

But on a more meaningful note, I don't believe that people should show racism towards Arabs. Just because there were some awful excuses for people who happened to be part of that nationality doesn't make it okay to hate everyone of that ethnicity. Many Arabs hate terrorism as much as we do, and fight everyday for an end to it... so why should they deserve to be shown disrespect?

Make love, not war. :smokin:

Originally posted by tazd9t9
That site is working again now
http://www.myleague.com/lpl/ Yep, works fine now :)

Originally posted by tazd9t9
That site is working again now
http://www.myleague.com/lpl/ Is that the same movie that's at http://www.traumasupport.net/tribute.html ? It has an Enya song? Because I downloaded it last year and don't need to do it again on my 56k connection if it is.

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Is that the same movie that's at http://www.traumasupport.net/tribute.html ? It has an Enya song? Because I downloaded it last year and don't need to do it again on my 56k connection if it is. Yea, it looks the same, it was 7MB?

faculty, your simple minded thinking is symptomatic of most of US leaders. you need to understand that there are millions of people throughout the world (and that means many millions more people than there are americans) who are fedup with the way our country is screwing up the world. just because they are against american foreign policy (that is america's leaders, *not* americans) does not mean automatically that they support terrorist groups.

moreover, your ignorant assumption that just one person is to blame ("we have osama to thank for all this") shows that you can't even be bothered to strain your brain cells to consider that there might just be a systemic problem behind all this.

you should be careful: you wouldn't want potential clients to become quite so aware of your limited thinking processes.

Originally posted by imitech
Yea, it looks the same, it was 7MB? It is 7MB. When I went to the URL you posted, it showed the same size warning images. And if you just go to http://www.traumasupport.net/links.html , he explains where he got it (sort of).

yeah its the same

It’s the same SWR you don’t need to download it again :)

It’s very emotional I couldn’t help crying :(

Hi all,

First of all, I would like to express my condolences, and of all Muslims all over the world, to all the families of victims of 9-11 tragedy. May God heal their pains and sufferings, Amen. Innocent people that were victims of this tragedy do not deserve what happened to them at all, and so all innocent people all over the world, whatever their colors, religions, nationalities or races.

Secondly, as a Muslim, I surely say that Islam, the religion of most Arabs, is against any attacks on innocent people whatever the reason is. If you read the Holy Quran and the teachings of the great prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, you will surely find it very obvious in God's commands to all people on earth, to respect each other and treat each other with justice and politeness.

Finally, I would like to express my sadness, for what have been said about Arabs on this board or any other places. But, I am sure that the day will come, which will reveal the truth of the real Gold of Islam.

I sincerely wish you all the very best of luck, happiness, health and long joyful life.

Regards,

Ahmed

Originally posted by admin2
Toefur
Youre obviously clueless.
Theres way too many people on this forum that invent things out of nothing. Stop talking crap and go live in Arab City of something
- Ross

Yeah, I'm totally clueless. You're the the rascist bastard. Can't trust a single one of those Arabs, can we?!

Originally posted by ionServ
I am shocked to see so many racist (that seems to be the best word to describe it) people here on WHT. :rolleyes:

- Omar

I don't know if it's shocking, but it's definately uncool. It's the flip-side to that anti-American bile that a small number of people who frequent this board love to spew at the drop of a hat.

I personally don't appreciate people who are so simple minded as to assume that an entire race or religion is to blame for the actions of a few.

No doubt about it, it's difficult territory and people have strong feelings about a lot of this. Myself included. I won't argue with people, because it's pointless and their attitudes and views will remain the same no matter what my actions are.

Some people, however I have no sympathy for. Like the Arab cab driver I had the other day who won't pick up black people but is horribly offended when people discriminate against HIM.

Silly people, who don't have the capacity to think, exist in all forms, colors, and countries. Unfortunately ignorance is rampant in this WORLD, not just any country.

And unfortunately, the ignorant ones are often very loud about shouting their ignorance to everyone else...

Ahmed, that was definately the most well explained post in this entire thread.

I totally agree with all you have said.

- Omar

Very well said Nozol.

I am a Muslim. Islam is a religion of peace and love.

My heart goes out to those who ignorantly think that all Muslims and Arabs are terrorists, as they are just expressing fear of the unknown. My heart also goes out to those who hate Americans, as they also are just expressing fear of the unknown.

Hey, as a native New Yorker, I've been hated in a lot of places right here in my own country, in quite a few states, just because I was a New Yorker. These are just ignorant people who have no clue that NYC is truly the most friendliest place in the USA.

Humans will be humans no matter where from. Either we love to hate or love to love. Love is so much nicer and very good for our health:)

One of our frequent posters here, DotComster is a Saudi Arabian whom I married last year. With him, I've learned to be even more tolerant of people in general. In all my years, I've never met a nicer person than him.

I ask those who don't know better, to just try and open up your minds and hearts and get to know people from the very places for whom you've stereotyped to be bad people.
Why keep the same type of hateful mindframe as the demented terrorists?

To all those around the world who have lost loved ones last 911, my sincere condolences to you.

Peace and Love to all,
Basmah aka Barbara
BrooklynItalian.com
SistersInIslam.net

The actions of the people who did this were evil, horrible and despicable, but to blame everyone of their race or religion is horrible too.

Lumping people into one group for the actions of a few is nuts. Isn't that what's going on in this thread? Some saying "they did it so I hate them and their religion" and others saying "they brought it on themselves". Nobody wants to be blamed for something they didn't do and had no part in doing.

Blame the people who did it, the people who planned it and the people who helped them to do it. Beware of those who wish to do more harm to others ANYWHERE, and fight them tooth and nail, but don't wish bad things on good decent people.

Did you see a big uprise in racism against white Christians because of Timothy McVey and the OKC bombing?

Originally posted by admin2
And how about the kids joining Bin Laden's Al Quida? In my opinion, all arabs should be given a polygraph (lie detector) test, to see what their opinions are on Osama and his terrorist actions. Then whoever supports Osama, should be wiped out. Im guessing it would be the bulk of arabs.


I have an idea. Lets round them all up into concentration camps, tell them they are going to go take a shower and get ready for a big trip, and then gas them in the shower. Then we will dig a big trench, and pile all the bodies into it and use a backhoe to bury them.

Or here is another possible final soultion to this daunting problem: Lets all of us webhosts donate all of our extra dedicated servers to the government so they can make a great big database of all of the possible dissenters out there. We can enact laws like The USA Patriot Act of 2001 and make bookstore provide the governement with a list of all the books people buy, and we will complile a database of all the people that buy unAmerican titles. And then make the grocery stores provide a list of all the things bought with those damn frequent shopper cards and anyone who buys ethnic foods will go into another database. Finally, we will keep a real close eye on anyone who runs a website that exposes the uncountable lies and half-truths that our elected officals spew from the steps of the whitehouse and keep a database of those.

Then to top it all off, lets make everyone take a lie detector test. If your name comes up in 3 out of 4 lists, an assasian will be sent to your last known address at 9 PM to do away with you, since you must be a terrorist or you wouldnt read unamerican books, run websites that criticise the government or buy ethnic foods.

I am sorry, but the poster who said that and anyone that agrees with him is a fool. You are the posion that is infecting America and destorying what used to be a wonderful country. Who the hell are you to decide who has a right to live? And what makes you think that you have any right to "wipe out" anyone.

Has the image of Hitler and Nazi Germany faded from your short-term memories? Maybe we need a little genocide to bring it back to the front burner. Amtrack seems to be struggling along for revenue. Lets award it a government contract -- rounding up all those that are marked for extermination!

Does anyone wonder why we have so many problems? Why is there so much crime? Why are divorices skyrocketing? What happened to good old family values? What happened to the day when neighbors helped each other through tough times? Religion aside, what happened to the time when everyone worked for a common goal, where civic duty was more important than the bottom line? What happened to the days when our elected officals answered to us, had integrity and worked to make life good for people.

I cannot belive that people are this stupid. It is incredible.

In my opinion, Mr. Admin2, people like you should be wiped out. Because you are parasites.

kkimmel & Nozol

Well said "Bravo"

Admin2 your just as bad as a terrorists. Good going peanut brain!. :mad:

One thing i forgot to say is that there is always two Sides of the Fence.

For the Americans and Allies its what CNN and the News tells them and for the others is probably what they have seen or experienced.

People must remember that most news are good lies based on the truth and can be bias in any direction they need to be.

I have seen the " American Government " lie to people, whole countries etc but that doesnt make me Anti - American. Most of my good friends are American and New Yorkers eheh.

Its just sad that many Americans swallow all the bias and propaganda that the news sells them.

There is always to sides to a story and many because of the pain and hurt of what happen on 9/11 are taking arms to fight.

Fighting only leeds to more enemies not world peace.

I will say no more because i dont think its easy for people to understand my point of you after so many times in there life they have been told opposite.

Boy, the Salvation Army was right. Greed knows no season. And the TV networks have apparently been gearing up for this day for some time. They even had corporate sponsors all lined up.

Quote from Fox News Network today:

"This segment of America Remembers has been brought to you by... Johnson and Johnson."

the Al Quida is the KKK of Islam... just much smarter and more wealthy.
Just because I'm a white american living 15 miles away from the Head Dragon of the KKK, should I be catagorized with them?

Originally posted by kkimmel
Boy, the Salvation Army was right. Greed knows no season. And the TV networks have apparently been gearing up for this day for some time. They even had corporate sponsors all lined up.

Quote from Fox News Network today:

"This segment of America Remembers has been brought to you by... Johnson and Johnson."

For the low price of $10,000, you and others like yourself can help me buy an island in the Pacific Ocean so we can all live there without fear. ;)

P.S.: I thought there were going to be no commercials? Oh well.

I watched the memorial service from my home here 60mi from London in the good ol' UK. What made me upset and really think of what happened was the fact it took them literally hours to read all the name and that for almost every surname read out, there were two or more people with roughly that name that died :(

I have my utmost respect for the Americans and how they coped with such tragedies... It must be remembered that we, in the UK have been on the otherside of terrorism for decades with the IRA, bombing here,there and everywhere. Whilst not on the same scale you could argue that it still has the same effect.

I think we need to defend our own countries and protect those who can't (Kuwait f.e) Terrorism should not be tollerated but we can't pick on a particular race, country or type of person as we all know nobody is perfect. I can for sure say i'm not the perfect human and i'm sure nobody else here can say they are honestly.

my condolences and sympathy to all of those innocent peoples who's got effected (killed,wounded)by september 11 attack (collapse of twin towers by bin ladin-tons of innocent americans and non americans killed ) and after september 11 -20(american bombing on afghanistan -tons of innocent afghans killed-).
support Humanity - Hate politic's - support peace - hate racism - support love - hate war.
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admin2: we never know you are Racist but now we got you believe me or not your habbit wont take you to the peace side but only War,killing,dead,Hell.
Thank you and have a wonder full and peaceful life to all of us in future.
(((((((((((((((((((((((((AMEN))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Note: -me in hurry sorry if i made my reply in short sentences-

As I do feel sorry for the people who died on 9/11/01. I do not feel sorry for all of the familes. One woman on there was, crying because she said the money that the goverment was giving her was only a few years of his salary and then she'd have to get a job. (There was multiple of these.)

Do I agree with giving all of the families money? No.

If I walked down the street and shot 3 people, chances are the family would not get ****. Besides to see my get thrown in jail.

I do not agree with everything that has happened and is going to happen. But I do feel sorry for the events that took place on that day.

As for you people saying negative things about the US and the US armed forces. If you live in the US, get the hell out. People are dying for you and your freedoms. You have so much freedom and if you want to sit here and moan about it, you don't belong here. The goverment IS going a bit far, but you're still better off than pretty much most of the world.

As for the people who don't live in the US, tough ****. You'll never understand. Don't hate if you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Also, a religon should not be looked down upon because of some people who can't understand how things are. (We could call them bad apples.)

Whilst my heart felt sympathies go out to all involved either directly or indirectly, lets be fair before all the war drums start beating, its not that long ago that the collection tins of the IRA were being rattled up and down the streets of New York as indeed a great any other Cities.
Great Britain has sent its heart out to the victims and their families of the September 11th tragedy, including supporting the USA when many other countries wouldn’t.
Perhaps a thought for all our soldiers’ and innocent children that have been blown up wouldn’t go a miss – most of it with American money.

The Worlds gone crazy – here everyone is screaming attack Saddam just because we ‘think’ he has nuclear capabilities and won’t comply with UN resolutions, yet Israel has a nuclear bomb and hasn’t complied with the UN or anyone else for thirty years. Come to think of it who also has nuclear capability and is the ONLY country to have ever used it – yep good ole Uncle Sam.

I detest violence and despise terrorism, but come lets get things into perspective.

I always loved how people fall back into that comfy little place where they say "America: Love it or leave it" and similar sayings. Heaven forbid someone actually change something or demand a little action. How horrible. I dislike many aspects of our government, so I must be a terrorist.

One woman on there was, crying because she said the money that the goverment was giving her was only a few years of his salary and then she'd have to get a job.

Oh, how horrible. She is going to have to sell a few of her houses and go get a job. How awful. She isnt going to have everything on a silver platter anymore. Poor thing. She is going to have to earn her keep just like every other person.

I work everyday for what I have and many others do as well. I love it when these rich snobs lose thier money and all of the sudden they think we should all boost them back up so they can live it up again.

It is just like the head guy and his wife from Enron (I think thats who it was) who built thier lives on screwing people, saying on the national media (I paraphrased this) "We are sorry for all of the people we screwed. We are trying to make it up to you. We lost everything. We sold our vacation home in FL and our penthouse suite in NYC."

These rich highflyers have no idea what loss is. These people deserve no sympathy. Not one drop.

Originally posted by kkimmel
These rich highflyers have no idea what loss is. These people deserve no sympathy. Not one drop.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. (replace "power" with "money" and it becomes true. :D) Then again, she was probably born rich. I could use a few million to build another halfway house for the homeless, for instance.

I think that the people who are posting things against all Muslims or Arabs are just confused. The whole thing can't be explained in a few short posts. The issue is complex and the lines blur. For the most part, Amercians know very little about Arabs and Islam, Muslims, etc. This lack of knowledge fosters rash generalizations.

People see that Islamic extremists, some Egyptian, etc., hijack multiple planes and fly them into two of the largest buildings on earth, destroying them, and into the Pentagon. This results in the deaths of many people.

Anger, confusion, and sorrow follow, with an amazing outpouring of sympathy from many parts of the world. Yet a significant number aren't angered, they are pleased and joyous. They have no sorrow, they celebrate.

I don't think anyone, in any country (other than these people), really understand how such a terrible event could bring joy and celebration to others. Doesn't matter what the event was, where it was, etc.

When a missle goes astray (and they often do) and hits a non-military target, Amercians don't celegrate and say, "Yeah, got some of the bastards!" At least I don't, and no one I know does.

Anyway, this really isn't well thought out, so I'll just stop ramblimg now. Point was that most people in America are angered and feel sorrow about what happened to those people on 9-11, and that it affected people directly and indirectly all over the world., and anger clouds judgment.

The judgement of others I cannot explain (and that's part of the mystery). I cannot explain why a small group of college students from Pakistan who wanted to come to this country to study (that was their goal) were happy and glad that these buildings were attacked. This was from an interview on one of the news magazines (like Dateline, though I'm not sure which).

The whole A-bomb issue of the past is another lengthy post, however I think that was a clear example to the rest of the world of what shouldn't ever be repeated. Whether we learn from our mistakes has yet to be seen...

Originally posted by blitzlight
by the way, what can this web hosting community @ WHT contribute to the sep 11 thing? have you guys thought of any?


I agree, has been past 29 years since the overthrow of the Salvador Allende democratic goverment in hands of the CIA, can we at WHT do something to give to the people dead by the Pinochet dictatorship some support?

For those who don't know it, 10.000 persons died in Chile because of this, and thousands has been torturated for more than 10 years.

BTW, I'd like to add my sympathies to the families and friends of all those affected by any kind of terrorism, this include WTC victims and all the terrorism acts in the world.

Originally posted by Jedito
I agree, has been past 29 years since the overthrow of the Salvador Allende democratic goverment in hands of the CIA, can we at WHT do something to give to the people dead by the Pinochet dictatorship some support?

We can push for a US government that is more isolationist, possibly one of the third parties like the Greens or something, to make sure this doesn't happen again. This would be the best solution, but then "the terrorists would have won". :rolleyes:

Originally posted by mind21_98


We can push for a US government that is more isolationist, possibly one of the third parties like the Greens or something, to make sure this doesn't happen again. This would be the best solution, but then "the terrorists would have won". :rolleyes:

Sorry, but I don't get it.

Do you mean, that the only way that US have to do things its wrong?

BTW, when Allende was overthrow, there wasn't any kind of terrorism in Chile, the "problem" was that the communist party won in a FAIR election.

Originally posted by Jedito


Sorry, but I don't get it.

Do you mean, that the only way that US have to do things its wrong?

BTW, when Allende was overthrow, there wasn't any kind of terrorism in Chile, the "problem" was that the communist party won in a FAIR election.

The Cold War really screwed things up. Violating the sovernity of other nations is a bad thing. We can't undo all the nasty stuff we did in the name of "capitalism" but we can make sure we can never do it again.

Anger, confusion, and sorrow follow, with an amazing outpouring of sympathy from many parts of the world. Yet a significant number aren't angered, they are pleased and joyous. They have no sorrow, they celebrate.

Here, here - How anyone can find joy from that is beyond my train of thought and most peoples I am sure... Well said