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EssEss
09-10-2002, 02:19 PM
Hello friends...

I've faced a strange situation with one of the OnlineNIC's resellers. I'm looking for your suggestions about how should I move into this matter.

I've registered a domain name through a reseller of OnlineNIC on 7th Sept. The reseller put the registrant's name as my name and my address and gave me the domain manager's url and password to me.

When I entered the domain manager, I realized that it was the reseller's private domain manager. Though I could change all other contact details to reflect to my client's name (including the registrant's address and email address), I was not able to change the registrant's name.

So, I contacted the reseller, and asked about how to change the registrant's name. He asked for $40. I have registered many domains through OpenSRS, and I knew that one could change all the details including registrant's name. So I thought he was joking, but the reseller told me seriously about the policy of OnlineNIC, and he also mentioned that it was OnlineNIC's charge not theirs.

I visited OnlineNIC and gone through their website, specially FAQs, where it was clearly written that, all details of a domain can be changed by the domain registrant without any charge.

There I found a link to the domain manager of OnlineNIC. I tried to log-in into the domain manager of OnlineNIC, without any success. I again contacted the reseller about this, and he refused to give me the password for OnlineNIC's domain manager.

So, I lodged a complaint with the CMO of OnlineNIC against the reseller and also contacted the Asia Pacific's Support, Carrie, through ICQ. Carrie asked me to forward the mail to her, so I did so. I explained everything through the ICQ for about an hour or so and she agreed that OnlineNIC charges $30 for changing the registrant's name.

When I asked Carrie about where it was written in their site, I was given a URL, which was password protected--meant for their resellera. However, Carrie agreed that any domain registrant, registered through OnlineNIC should be given the actual password to access the domain manager of OnlineNIC. Carrie also agreed that as per ICANN's rule, change in the registrant's name by the registrant himself should not carry any charge. However, she mentioned, that she knows that as per ICANN's 'new' rule, this charge should not be there, but the site is yet to update that details. (Remember, she told me earlier, that OnlineNIC charges $30 for name change and the reseller asked for $40!).

However, I requested Carrie to take appropriate steps, so that my client can :

(a) replace my name with his name without incurring any kind of charge, and

(b) all my clients (I've registered quite a few domain names through OnlineNIC) should be able to manage their domains directly from OnlineNIC's domain manager without any intervention of its resellers.

I think I did not ask for something illegal or impossible.

Carrie assured me that she will do the needful and forwarded my complaint to the reseller with a request to look into the matter.

However, though approx 12 hours passed after I received that forwarded mail, I didn't receive any response from the reseller. About 5 hours back I again contacted Carrie about this, and she told me that the reseller has assured her that he will contact me.

Now I find her online in the ICQ but with a tag 'Not Available'. I left a message, with no reply.

I'm totally confused about how to go about this, that's why I'm posting over here. My client feels that I'm going to steal his domain name as it's a 3-letter .com domain name, which has got great market value.

So, I'm asking you fellow members, if you could suggest me about how to proceed about this matter.

Thanks in advance,

EssEss

TheWatcher2
09-10-2002, 02:38 PM
<<MOD EDIT: Removed entire quote of above post>>

With that kind of service support, I suggest that you start looking for other provider. OpenSRS is one of them.

The cost involve is provided to you by reseller ($30) and sub reseller ($40). Some company applies this kind of fee/service type.

I hope this help a little bit.

EssEss
09-10-2002, 02:48 PM
Hi...

Aren't these types of charges are illegal as per ICANN's rule?

EssEss

TheWatcher2
09-10-2002, 03:10 PM
<<MOD EDIT: Again>>

It is legal as if they disclose that information to the clients. This is one way for them to generate revenue. I know this is not a good business that's why "we" as reseller need to review or have good working relationship to your prospective service provider.

Just a thought.

EssEss
09-11-2002, 12:34 AM
Hello,

They didn't disclose the information into the open page. They have put it into the password-protected page. Both OnlineNIC and DforDomains.

EssEss

TheWatcher2
09-11-2002, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by EssEss
Hello,

They didn't disclose the information into the open page. They have put it into the password-protected page. Both OnlineNIC and DforDomains.

EssEss

Time to shop another parent reseller that will provide you good service.

EssEss
09-11-2002, 12:54 AM
hi...

that i will do, but what will happen to the current domain? my client wants it in his name, that's what he wants. If anyone could suggest what steps can I take against both the reseller and onlinenic.

EssEss

zoli
09-11-2002, 05:50 AM
EssEss, is your nickname "nivlek78" on another hosting related forum?

Hugoduke
09-11-2002, 06:15 AM
Zoli....do you company charge that as well?

EssEss
09-11-2002, 07:04 AM
Zoli....no...i'm one and only EssEss around...:D

zoli
09-11-2002, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Hugoduke
Zoli....do you company charge that as well?

Hugoduke... sorry, I can't understand your question. Can you be a little more explicit?
Do you mean if my company charge for changing ownership? No, we do not have hidden charges.... I try to "prepare" my clients from the beginning....

Paulz
09-12-2002, 09:02 AM
hi, there,this is the story.....

i am the victim in this event: THE MISTAKEN FOR DOMAIN REGISTER ON REGISTRANT NAME

now this event will be concern to 3 parties,me--indnet.net--onlinenic.com

i was very happy to search out that one of the domain name that very suitable for my business,i was registered my choice

domain name used one of the hosting company,www.indnet.net
which is the onlinenic.com affiliate reseller.

Now,i was very unhappy because.....
some of the mistake that cause my business can not run smoothly,i got to stop my printed materials& advetising, because i can

not surely put in my domain name on my media.

on 7th .Sept.2002.....
first,i was completely fill up the registration requirement without any mistake on indnet.net.
after i saw on the WHOIS database i surprised that the domain name was not belong to me,because of the registrant name was

not me,
the name appear there is Subhendu Sen(the founder of indnet.net hosting company),after i discussed with him,he adding my name
at the back on his name.this is funny!this is not i want to be!,i seem like shading my wife with other!is unacceptable!.

within his explaination,he said that this is not his false,is because of the onlinenic staff mistaken using his name to

registered,the explaination is on the forum -- http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73457
so,i don`t know whether who is right ?
but,one thing i knew is we should find out who make the mistake and who should given respondsible upon this.
i can not wait too long,because my business can not go forward,i don`t know who is such expert IT professional to register my

domain name !

because some one was mistake,if this cause to pay money for changing registrant and someone should pay out,but not me !

so,how do yours say about this !

but ,now there just put me apart without doing anything.



so,what action should i take further ?



best regards,


Lee

EssEss
09-12-2002, 01:26 PM
Hi all...

I have refunded the money of Lee through Click Bank and given him access to the domain manager (OnlineNIC's) too. (That means I have given him every access to the precious domain name he booked--I have not kept it with me.) I wanted to help him out, but it seems that he didn't want to be helped.

Thank you all guyz...and beware you register domain name with OnlineNIC next time!

Best regards

EssEss