hey guys..
I do allot of flash streaming, using Flash media encoder with providers like Justin.tv and ustream.tv, however im sick of them as they are not reliable and its very easy if someone want to use my work (embed the stream to their website and make money...)
therefore I'm thinking of going private server, that could handle 20k viewers at 300 kbps bit rate.
now I read allot about Flash media server, but my concerns are the following:
1- what good server Specs I need to run Flash Media Server to support 20k viewers
2- how can I secure my stream so only my site can play the video, and no other sites can.. meaning even if they copy the embed code of my website, and put it on theirs it should work
3- how to setup Flash media server probably or any good links to read in regards to that,
Thanks allot in advance

Microsoft® Windows Server® 2003
2 GB minimum,
3.2 GHz Intel® Pentium® 4
1- what good server Specs I need to run Flash Media Server to support 20k viewers ?
It depends on what YOU stream . movies or mp3 or what ?
how can I secure my stream so only my site can play the video, and no other sites can.. meaning even if they copy the embed code of my website, and put it on theirs it should work ?
use RTMPE Protocol . if you use FMS3 OR Wowza you can use RTMP OR RTMPE Protocol . In any case this is will not stop Downloading . it will stop streaming from other site only But steel they can Download your Media .
Adobe Says RTMPE Protocol is Secure But that not true .

If you use swf verification it is secure against download plus FMS can be configured to only allow certain domains. It's alos possible to write your own server side code that authenticates connections. For 20k viewers you're unlikely to do this on 1 dedi, absolutely no chance on the spec suggested by sat-jokar.
You're best to ask on the FMS mailing list or the couple FMS forums out there.

If you use swf verification it is secure against download
No its not secure . still can be Downloaded From that server . Even when using rtmpe protocol you can Download the movies Easily
The clearest evidence of this is (Amazon VOD ) They can not protect themselves From Downloading .
The Best thing In Flash Media Server is Protect your movies from streaming in other Sites That is All .
And this is Good Becouse this will save you A lot Bandwidth .

You're talking rubbish and don't know what you're talking about. Amazon hadn't correctly implemented all measures, read this article (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080929-adobe-amazon-point-fingers-over-video-ripping-exploit.html) to the end << snipped >>.
Please don't pretend to know about things you know nothing of. This is exactly the reason i recommended the original poster to go an ask on knowledgeable FMS forums - there are too many people like yourself on webhostingtalk that pretend like everything they say is fact when they are completely wrong.

I might add I've implemented swf verification and rtmpe for a streaming system and tested against Replay Media Capture, and it can't download the file.

First why you so angry ?
you Can answer without telling bad words .
Second > Can you give me the url for what you (TEST) ?
I would be happy TO see that .

thanks for this news and the link hear show us that Amazon has plugged its security hole by adopting Adobe's full set of recommended security practices
this is the link
uk.reuters.com/article/technology-media-telco-SP/idUKN2928873020080930?feedType=RSS&feedName=technology-media-telco-SP
But look at this Image taken a few minutes ago from my Computer
uimgs.com/viewer.php?file=zms5fhsnn8w5agedriow.jpg
I am steel witting the url for your (TEST)
Because i want see haw you made that .

You're talking rubbish and don't know what you're talking about. Amazon hadn't correctly implemented all measures, read this article (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080929-adobe-amazon-point-fingers-over-video-ripping-exploit.html) to the end.
Please don't pretend to know about things you know nothing of. This is exactly the reason i recommended the original poster to go an ask on knowledgeable FMS forums - there are too many people like yourself on webhostingtalk that pretend like everything they say is fact when they are completely wrong.
Seriously..<<what>> is up with that attitude of yours? :mad:
The above posters just tried to help the OP with whatever knowledge they had..that's all.

Why would I bother supplying you a url to test when you have a track record of dubious activity on other forums - decompiling (http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?p=780852#post780852) and stealing (http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?t=178821) swfs (http://www.sothink.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=171530&sid=49cb91e677f2155e5c6b3a13a3469941), serving illegal video downloads (http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?t=184772), and generally stealing other peoples bandwidth (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/streaming-they-server-t2827.html?p=7210) and content, hacker forums etc A quick google on sat-jokar shows me everything I need to know.
Excuse me while I don't help you on your mission to rip off and steal content.

Seriously..wtf is up with that attitude of yours? :mad:
The above posters just tried to help the OP with whatever knowledge they had..that's all.
Search the users name. He's on a lot of dubious forums, almost all of which specialise in stealing other peoples content.
And he's helping nobody by posting information as fact and defending it as correct when he is in fact blatantly wrong.

Did you mean my real name or nickname ?
Because there is a big difference between them . (SAT-JOKAR) take from sat-joker.com website . German site Interest in Cam and Satellite Channel . This famous name in the Satellite world .
The difference between this and I . I think my English Better then hem .
now Where is the site for your test ?

You're not kidding anybody. You talk about rtmpe here, and duh somebody on actionscript.org (and other forums including stream capture software, decompiling software) has a few posts in exactly the same poor english about the same subjects. There's nobody else with the same name posting on other forums about e.g politics /football/diy.
As this is a web hosting forum where us web hosts don't particularly want our bandwidth or content stolen or leeched by the likes of you, I'm not going to assist you in any way.
If you have your own flash media server licence and knew much about it, you'd know it only takes 10 minutes to set up and deploy swf verification to an FMS app, and you can test against your own server..

I think I will not answer any more to you .
and iraqgoals he can Decides if he will go with Flash Media Server or not .
any way Tried to contact to Amazon . I'm sure they will buy your SWF . Who knows may be Adobe let you Working with them .
I am sure this is will be Better then web hosting

Lol. You don't need a special swf, the protection is server side. *Any* playback swf would have the same protection.
Here's a capture from your favourite program, with all latest updates to rtmp capture plugin, showing how it fails:
http://i34.tinypic.com/91b4on.jpg (http://tinypic.com/91b4on.jpg)

Why you support adobe like part of them ?
Believe me, its not secure . Adobe know that and Amazon know that
(Too late)
Now you want to say to us This army of programmers, who works with Amazon Did not know how to protect they are business Which cost millions $ And you who works in web hosting have the solutions ? that what you want tell us ?
Just to remind you . Adobe Said Before they Published CS4 Family They Said this is will never be cracked . But guess what happened
In the second week of publication CS4 Family Get Cracked From 7 organizations .
It cost them millions $ and they can not stop this . Even Microsoft Suffered .
So Do you think any Body will Believe What you Said ?
Now of course adobe will Said amazon Did not follow proper procedures . Because they will not Said We failed . No they will not Said that . Because that will cost them A lot .

Did you read the article? Did you notice the part about how Amazon weren't implementing swf verification? The screen cap you have shows an rtmp and not an rtmpe stream?
Did you look at that image I just posted? I just tested this in the last hour and whether you believe or not doesn't matter to me. As a professional developer (who happens to host client sites too) I know what the technology is and isn't capable of. As I said (and you constantly refuse to listen to) you can go and implement a swf verification protection test yourself using your own server and FMS capability - if you have basic knowledge and a server. This isn't any secret I have, it's well documented and testable by anybody.
I have no interest in whether Adobe this or that or Amazon this or that.
I do have an interest in disproving bunkum posted by people like yourself who neither have the expertise or knowledge to post informed opinion.
Adobe have never said "Adobe Said Before they Published CS4 Family They Said this is will never be cracked". If they did, it would be well documented in their press releases - please post a link to such a piece of info............
You seem to know a lot about piracy " In the second week of publication CS4 Family Get Cracked From 7 organizations ."
This just reinforces what I've already said about your motivations..