Should the BBC go ahead with banning all non British citizens from entering the BBC's website?.

Where did you hear about this?

I will reserve judgment until I read the facts :)

Why would they want to ban all non British citizens from entering the BBC's website? :confused:

What would be the point?
And how do you tell a British from a non-British?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Because the money for the BBC's site is coming out of my back pocket since i pay for the BBC's service as i think everyone in the UK is required to do.

Originally posted by Ahmad
What would be the point?
And how do you tell a British from a non-British?

:confused: :confused: :confused: I was thinking the same thing, how would they achieve this?

Yeh - BBC is basically a television tax.

Ned - where did you hear about this m8, Id like to see for myself ;)

Originally posted by Ahmad
What would be the point?
And how do you tell a British from a non-British?

:confused: :confused: :confused:
Well the point is to ban people like yourselfs from the BBC.

Now i seriously think it is only fair if you's did get banned.

Originally posted by imitech
I was thinking the same thing, how would they achieve this?

They can ban non european IP ranges.

Originally posted by mlovick
Yeh - BBC is basically a television tax.

Ned - where did you hear about this m8, Id like to see for myself ;)
I heard it from my pal Rab.

Originally posted by ned patter

I heard it from my pal Rab.

Oh!

Originally posted by mlovick


They can ban non european IP ranges.
That's not good enough.

Well, I can see no info of this in google. So I reserve my vote until I have read the facts ;)

Well if you live in the UK then it is your duty to vote yes and if your not in the UK then please stop going to the BBC until further notice.

:agree: cnn

How about if you ban ned from WHT because it is a US based forum? :D

Yes go to cnn and stay away from the UK citizens only services.

haha i pay for cable t.v down under and i get subscription to bbc, whats wrong with you?

THE BBC IS PAID BY UK PEOPLE AND WE HAVE WORLDWIDE SERVICES AIMED AT NON UK PEOPLE WHICH DO NOT PAY INSTEAD WE PAY FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND IT IS NOT ON.

THE CABLE TV I PAY FOR COMES WITH BBC, THE COMPANY I PAY FOR PAYS BBC IN RETURN FOR THE SERVICE OFCOURSE!!!!!

Who needs BBC when you have CNN?

That's the stupidest thing I ever heard.

Should CNN ban all non US IP ranges?

Well for the soccer :D

latests news helps if your a punter :D

Eng EPL
Eng Div1
Eng Div2
Eng Div3
Eng Conference

Scottish EPL
Scottish Div1
Scottish Div2
Scottish Div3

Originally posted by DD-SNC
That's the stupidest thing I ever heard.

Should CNN ban all non US IP ranges?
Well for a start CNN is rubbish and it gets money off the advertising not from it's citizens.

ned patter,

Your wrong. We pay for cable to show us CNN.

Your saying BBC doesnt run ads? oh please, down in au they run heaps of compaq ads........

Originally posted by edude
THE CABLE TV I PAY FOR COMES WITH BBC, THE COMPANY I PAY FOR PAYS BBC IN RETURN FOR THE SERVICE OFCOURSE!!!!!
Your alright then, no worrys for you.

Originally posted by edude
Your saying BBC doesnt run ads? oh please, down in au they run heaps of compaq ads........
No the BBC does not have any ads at all.

ned patter,

We ALL pay for cable. It's not just him. CNN is not free.

Originally posted by Shyne
ned patter,

We ALL pay for cable. It's not just him. CNN is not free.
It depends how you get it. If you get it through cable then of course it will cost but if you got it through an ariel then it wouldn't cost anything from my 4 months of investigations and research.

I don't think you can get CNN through an antennae. That is ariel, right?

I don't know who the money will go to.
CNN is paid for through advertisers yes? if that is the case you won't pay any money to CNN.

Let BBC ban the world (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/09/08/nextre08.xml&sSheet=/portal/2002/09/08/ixport.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=238348), let Britian be banned! ARRRRRRR! j/k

I am from the UK and I think it is a stupid idea to Ban non British Citizens from vesting the BBC site, Firstly the BBC takes enough money from its license payers and provides absolute rubbish TV in comparison to ITV/Channel 4 who don’t receive a single penny of the license fee. As a UK License Payer I have no objections to foreign people visiting the BBC site. I assume that the only reason people visit the BBC is for its news service however there is an alternative Long live Sky News! (http://www.sky.com/skynews/home) :D

Well I dont think you can ban people from going to the bbc website just b'cause they dont pay TV liscence. Thats rediculous - the bbc is not funded by tv lisence alone it has a massive income stream from all over the world - I vote no.

Whatever next Ned - stop people visiting to the UK b'cause they dont pay NI and TAX . :rolleyes:

Originally posted by imitech
... alternative Long live Sky News! (http://www.sky.com/skynews/home) :D

Am searching for british online news sites

I personally believe that the BBC website is one of the best news sites on the net. Plus my kids enjoy all the games etc.

Why should non british be locked out of such a gr8 resource.

Because the poms are getting greedy :D

greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.

Originally posted by mlovick
Plus my kids enjoy all the games etc.
Even I enjoy the games… :stickout

Originally posted by ned patter
Because the money for the BBC's site is coming out of my back pocket since i pay for the BBC's service as i think everyone in the UK is required to do.

What? You were paying for this service to get latest news? You could have watched CNN instead :D

I prefer BBC to CNN, because CNN news is so biased...

BBC show the other side of things, especially on the Iraq Issue :D

Ahmad,

In the UK if we own a TV set, we are required by law to buy a tv lisence.

We dont pay it to get BBC, we pay it to get TV. Even if we subscribe to SKY (Satalite) and promise never to watch any bbc program - we still have to pay :(

LOOOOOL

crazy rules, poor brits.

The BBC has enough money to be able to provide this service to the world not just to the residents of the UK regardless of the issue of UK residents paying the TV License.

They can ban the US from the BBC. I don't go there anyway. There are plenty of other news sources out there, such as CNN, or MSNBC, and if you go there to play games, you can play them at Netscape.com

Originally posted by inogenius
They can ban the US from the BBC. I don't go there anyway. There are plenty of other news sources out there, such as CNN, or MSNBC, and if you go there to play games, you can play them at Netscape.com

:mad: And how the *** do you think my kids will get their Bob the builder fix on netscape.com ????

:D :D :D

edude, you are right :D
And that is relevant to what I meant.

The British government wouldn't fund a news agency project just so that the british people can watch the news. BBC is supposed to represent the way british people percieve world news.

There is no point in funding such an agency if non-British people didn't watch it. Not to mention preventing them from watching it!

Originally posted by mlovick


They can ban non european IP ranges.

What about British people in the U.S.?
What about non-British people in Europe? :D

You are right - the whole thing is rediculous and most likely a stupid rumor never likely to materialise.

I can find NO information on this apart from what Neds mate said. I dont know Ned,and I dont know his mate either so with all respect to them, I will believe it if it happens! :cool:

All i am saying is this: you can watch the BBC and go to there web site as long as you pay for it and if you don't pay for it then you have no right to do anything that will cost the UK citizens money.

I don't think it's fair.

Another useless thread.. :D

and guess who started it, ned patter!

Yup :D and who is Rab :eek: don't want to meet him lol

All i am saying is this: you can watch the BBC and go to there web site as long as you pay for it and if you don't pay for it then you have no right to do anything that will cost the UK citizens money.

Hey man life isn't fair. I pay a ton of money to medicare in the US, which I'll probably never see back.

Should we ban Ned since he isn't human? :D

What most people miss from this dumb ass idea is that if they blocked non UK IP ranges then they'd block the 2nd largest UK ISP from accessing the site - AOL UK users present an ARIN IP when their address is queried :)

Lets just forget about it as it is just not going to happen. End of story!

Originally posted by ned patter
Should the BBC go ahead with banning all non British citizens from entering the BBC's website?.

No. Unlike you Brits, we are stuck with pro-Israelli, pro-imperialist media who actually advocate a dictatorship in America. We must be able to reverse our brainwashing by reading foreign media or we will be doomed. I bet you'd want that though. *shrug* ;)

Originally posted by mlovick


:mad: And how the *** do you think my kids will get their Bob the builder fix on netscape.com ????

:D :D :D

You can buy the movies... or watch them on Nick Jr.

Don't need BBC in order to watch Bob.
Heck, we don't even have cable TV and my son (he's 2 1/2) is addicted to Bob the Builder.

He's content with spending 15 minutes over at bobthebuilder.com :D :D

Originally posted by mlovick
Lets just forget about it as it is just not going to happen. End of story!
Sadly i doubt it is. Ohh well i guess i'll have to keep paying for you non UK people:bawling: .

Would any non Uk people like to buy a new TV for me?.

Wierd

Originally posted by ned patter

Sadly i doubt it is. Ohh well i guess i'll have to keep paying for you non UK people:bawling: .

Ned thats just stupid. :angry:

I'm giving you an example of what's going on.
I pay for you to access the BBC so it's only fair i get something in return.

Welcome to real life.

Originally posted by Darth


Ned thats just stupid. :angry:
It's very much true though.
You cannot say that i am not paying for non UK people to access the BBC and i don't see why i should be paying.

I WAS a Brit for the 1st 12 years of my life - Thank you UK :)

So why do we help the poor?

Originally posted by Darth
Welcome to real life.
In real life you don't get anything for free but here are examples of people who are.

Yes, you get the fact that the world is able to view your countries news agencies.

Think about it, if the world wasn't able to see your countries site, there would be more trouble than you are willing to back up.

Originally posted by Darth
So why do we help the poor?
Not many people help the poor, we are forced to and sometimes the poor aren't helped.

We are forced to help? :eek:

Originally posted by Darth
We are forced to help? :eek:
Of course we are.

Stop watching tv :D

I'm talking from real experience here.
I have watched what happens to my money.

What happens to it? :stickout

I guess we should stop tourists coming in to this country then because they have a negative effect on our environment by getting here, and other factors like wearing out our pavements etc. without paying council tax.

Originally posted by KDAWebServices
I guess we should stop tourists coming in to this country then because they have a negative effect on our environment by getting here, and other factors like wearing out our pavements etc. without paying council tax.
No because we don't give tourists money they give us it for something in return.

Lame thread... hahah

Originally posted by Samuel
Lame thread... hahah

All posts made by Ned are lame, haven't you noticed!? :eek:

Originally posted by Darth


All posts made by Ned are lame, haven't you noticed!? :eek:
Give me one example and then explain what Lame is.

is this thread serious or am i missing a joke?

firstly, the bbc is a very good service far superior than itv. which is pure crap.

Who needs BBC when you have CNN?

Just about everybody. cnn is so biased its a joke.

next, any tv channel that shows a bbc programe or shows the channel itself has to pay a fee to worldwide services, a department of the bbc. so 'johny foreigner' is not recieving it free.

should they, the bulk populus of the world get access to it at all? damn right, theres some real crap coming onto our tv's from other parts of the world.

does the bbc have adds? no, its not allowed. the bbc in other parts of the world may do, but then its not actually the bbc proper but a version of it.

so just to look at this properly, actually the only people who do get the bbc free are those IN THE UK who don't pay their license fee. (and people in parts of europe close to the uk who can pick it up, just)

everybody else has to pay for it. more than we do as it happens.

oh, and another thing. if EVERYBODY in the uk paid their license fee the monthly cost would be £3 per month, and we would have the football.

try getting that out of sky.

Lame = Nowhere going, inane, pointless.

This thread is lame because it starts with sensationalism in order to attract replies over a subject that is not only NOT under debate outside of this thread, but is a farce to even consider considering the complexity of where the BBC gets it's information.

The sharing of information, databases, and other marketing, and advertising revenue generation pipes between large news agencies owned by Murdock, and the BBC, AOL, and other news conglomerates show you don't pay for as much as you think you do.

It's easy to say "We pay for this", believe it, you aren't the only citizens in this world that pay the BBC, so lame.

I can't believe people are fuelling this argument, lol.

Do you pay the BBC Sam?.

lol yep Mattf

Originally posted by ned patter
Do you pay the BBC Sam?.

Yes I sure do

That's great but not if your in the UK.

Originally posted by MattF
I can't believe people are fuelling this argument, lol.
It's getting this through to them Matt. It's a hard job.

Round and round, listens to nothing, enjoy your thread ned, it's lame.

It is the most important thread this year at WHT.
It's a scam and a nationwide one.

Originally posted by ned patter
It is the most important thread this year at WHT.
It's a scam and a nationwide one.

i've got it, i'm trippin' - thats the only explanation for the existence of this thread. :D

I think a scam just about rounds it up for tonight. The mods can now close this thread and archive it if they want.

Most important thread? Rofl.
A scam?

Ned, okay, you have a point that can be debated, personally I disagree. A small fraction of your TV license pays for BBC online services, and a small fraction of that goes to pay for bandwidth to serve the International comunity, to inform them of what is happening in Britain and the world etc, to show off a media company proud of, to give info to those in proganda countries and where news coverage is poor. The trouble in implementing IP restrictions etc.. is probably more cost than the bandwidth.

Ned I can probably dig out some info about where our taxes are actually being wasted, how inefficent we spend taxes etc... how one MPs salary is probably paying for BBC.co.uk non-european bandwidth three times over etc... there are much greater concerns to worry about than this.

Don't lose sleep over this.

I have voted on : No, i don't mind paying for others

Originally posted by ned patter
It is the most important thread this year at WHT.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I agree Ned. We have the same situation here in Sweden. If you own a TV, a video (but NOT a TV), a TV-card for your computer, or any other way you can use to hook up with the antennae, you have to pay the license. Ban the Danish, the Norwegan, the Finnish, etc, from getting our SVT (Swedish television). Then they can ban us from getting theirs. And then do Pay-per-view on the website. :D

cnn. sheesh. almost as bad as fox and msnbc. bbc should be shown on all US services to finally get a somewhat level-headed, progressive news source to the US.

so ban - just more customers for me :)