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View Full Version : Which host should I choose to get a reseller account?
Hello! I'm looking for a reseller account. I've shortlisted a few which I may prefer. Can y'all vote on them and give me some reviews on how their service was?
I'm going to use the reseller account for my forum hosting, basically to upgrade normal accounts to premium accounts and give them a cPanel.
I may use the reseller account for some other purpose like hosting my own website.
Please help vote and give me suggestions thanks ^^
Outlaw Web Master 10-04-2008, 07:33 AM hmm....
Is this a brainteaser?
I don't see a poll or vote :)
owm
Poll is up. Please help to vote thanks ^^
servertechs 10-04-2008, 08:22 AM I had chosen InnoHosting
gameforever 10-04-2008, 08:31 AM I chose hostgator.
o.o
Continue with the voting. Hopefully you could say why you choose it :x
Jay August 10-04-2008, 08:43 AM I choose the 'Gator as well, but that's pure because I didn't had any experience with other providers mentioned. Hostgator was good, support is great and their services are generally good.
JohnJ 10-04-2008, 09:21 AM My vote goes to InnoHosting.
I wonder why aer there so many people voting for InnoHosting..
Jay August 10-04-2008, 09:27 AM Because they are popular :D they had some amazing offers going on lately, so they gained quite some clients I guess.
Their reseller offers are pretty small and expensive though..
Srv24x7 10-04-2008, 09:40 AM Readywire has a decent support
Oh I see. Any reviews about them?
IH-Rameen 10-04-2008, 11:57 AM Their reseller offers are pretty small and expensive though..
I believe our reseller plans are realistic and reflect the quality of service we provide, evident by our reviews and constant recommendations :)
teachforjune-Scott 10-04-2008, 11:59 AM Innohosting is justly priced for what they offer. First and foremost, they offer peace of mind. Your sites are up and running and you can sleep at night. They also offer free whmcs or clientexec depending on plan, end-support, reliable, quick, and responsive tech support, and a fast, overall great network.
Chris and Rameen are always willing to help and to take suggestions to make Innohosting even better. You can't go wrong with them and remember the old adage, you get what you pay for!
I believe our reseller plans are realistic and reflect the quality of service we provide, evident by our reviews and constant recommendations :)
So do y'all have any custom plans? Cause 20GB space is kinda little.. Is overselling allowed?
teachforjune-Scott 10-04-2008, 01:53 PM With the average website under 500mb and the larger ones at 1gb, you can host 40 500mb or 20 1gb sites under that plan for $43/mo. That's approximately $516.00 per year. Now keep in mind that you don't have to pay for whmcs (savings of $155.40) or for staffing (savings varies) or ticket support (approx $3.00 per ticket/month--based on conservative 10 tickets/mo thats $360 in savings), I think Innohosting is giving a pretty good deal. If you sell a 500mb plan for $20/year you would make $800 less cost of $516 netting a profit of $436/year. If you sell a 1gb plan for $40/year you'd make the same. Now for a mere $516 investment, you could potentially nearly double your money. That's a pretty good deal if you ask me. And there's nothing to stop you from getting another reseller plan.
Now considering that a decent dedi costs approximately $400/mo along with whmcs at $155.40, server admin at roughly a minimum of $100/mo, tech support or staffing ($200/mo using bobcares), at a monthly cost of $855.40 you're getting a great deal here. You would need a lot more accounts just to pay your monthly bills let alone make a profit.
I voted for InnoHosting. Those guys are really nice. Keep up the good work.
All the best,
CI-Theo 10-04-2008, 04:10 PM I went with HostGator on the basis of their features and the fact that I have examined their packages in more depth than InnoHosting. I think that, overall in terms of value, HostGator is your best bet.
I went with HostGator on the basis of their features and the fact that I have examined their packages in more depth than InnoHosting. I think that, overall in terms of value, HostGator is your best bet.
If s/he wants to oversell, Host Gator doesn't allow it but InnoHosting does.
All the best,
rwilki 10-04-2008, 06:55 PM I used hostgator for a short period of time. I couldn't remember exactly what happened until I went back and read some of my old emails. I signed up with them in mid November. 8 days later, the server was so over-loaded that it back-ed up and shut down the mail queue. OK, that happens. By February, I had experienced so much server load and bottle-necking that I canceled my account.
Their customer support was timely and helpful to a point, but it never changed my experiencing these slow server problems. They did offer to move my sites to another server, but I had lost confidence at that point.
Maybe things are much better now, I just don' have the faith in them right now due to my past experiences.
ldcdc 10-04-2008, 08:07 PM Their reseller offers are pretty small and expensive though..
Yet here I was thinking the exact opposite. :) You just can't compare reseller hosting to the huge shared hosting offers you see out there. Nor should you think of competing with them. ;)
With the average website under 500mb and the larger ones at 1gb, you can host 40 500mb or 20 1gb sites under that plan for $43/mo. That's approximately $516.00 per year. Now keep in mind that you don't have to pay for whmcs (savings of $155.40) or for staffing (savings varies) or ticket support (approx $3.00 per ticket/month--based on conservative 10 tickets/mo thats $360 in savings), I think Innohosting is giving a pretty good deal. If you sell a 500mb plan for $20/year you would make $800 less cost of $516 netting a profit of $436/year. If you sell a 1gb plan for $40/year you'd make the same. Now for a mere $516 investment, you could potentially nearly double your money. That's a pretty good deal if you ask me. And there's nothing to stop you from getting another reseller plan.
Now considering that a decent dedi costs approximately $400/mo along with whmcs at $155.40, server admin at roughly a minimum of $100/mo, tech support or staffing ($200/mo using bobcares), at a monthly cost of $855.40 you're getting a great deal here. You would need a lot more accounts just to pay your monthly bills let alone make a profit.Well said. But don't forget, packages that are too small aren't attractive at all :)
teachforjune-Scott 10-04-2008, 11:18 PM Well said. But don't forget, packages that are too small aren't attractive at all :)
Depends on who your target is. If it's people who go after hosts like hostgator, bluehost, and hostmonster, then you're right. If you go for realistic clients who know what they're getting, then smaller sizes are just fine.
Popular right now are blog sites and almost all of them can be hosted with 1gb sites or less. Allow an upgrade path to larger plans.
Start with a reseller with the lower plans and upgrade to a vps as your business develops. Eventually, you'll be able to move up to a dedi, but if you're plans are realistic and your prices reasonable for what they get, you will be able to build a clientele.
I'm not planning to become HG, BH or HM. I'm planning to sell at reasonable prices. But cause 20GB sounds kind of small for $40/mth :S
nickn 10-04-2008, 11:40 PM I'm not planning to become HG, BH or HM. I'm planning to sell at reasonable prices. But cause 20GB sounds kind of small for $40/mth :S
Chances are you won't need 20GB, or 10GB, or 5GB so it shouldn't matter too much :)
teachforjune-Scott 10-04-2008, 11:42 PM But you're not just getting disk space. You're getting whmcs and end-support and a reliable, modern server. Whmcs alone costs $12.95 per month. And believe me, if you're just starting out (unless you have already clients lined up), it will take a little bit before you'll use up that 20GB.
Start with a smaller package until you build up business and then upgrade as needed. Building a business is a slow process but starting with a quality host behind you is going to make it that much easier.
But if I were to upgrade, I might not be going with InnoHosting again as I prefer some other host for VPS and dedicated servers.
teachforjune-Scott 10-05-2008, 10:43 AM That would be fine, but what they are known for and are truly good at is reseller hosting and they come highly recommended.
I started out with them and have since upgraded to vps and dedi, but they were an excellent starting point.
ReadyRick 10-05-2008, 02:09 PM Readywire has a decent support
Thank you for your kind words! :D
That would be fine, but what they are known for and are truly good at is reseller hosting and they come highly recommended.
I started out with them and have since upgraded to vps and dedi, but they were an excellent starting point.
I see. Although a good starting point, we might upgrade in no time as 20GB can't fill much client's appetite. So its kinda troublesome too :S
ldcdc 10-06-2008, 05:46 AM But cause 20GB sounds kind of small for $40/mth Play around with the costs of dedicated servers, consider all the other costs a business incurs, and you might find that price to not be so bad after all. There are only so many sites a server can house properly. Huge space could translate into more sites and more traffic. Shared/reseller hosting environments are acts of fine balance. If there's reason to believe that a host (IH in this instance) has found that balance, the fact should weight quite heavily in a purchasing decision. ;)
teachforjune-Scott 10-06-2008, 07:36 AM I see. Although a good starting point, we might upgrade in no time as 20GB can't fill much client's appetite. So its kinda troublesome too :S
You'd be surprised! I started out with their 10GB plan and never filled it with clients. Like I said, unless you have a ton of clients lined up, you're not going to fill 20GB. The average site is UNDER 1GB unless you are hosting file sharing/photo/video type sites. HTML/PHP/mySQL driven sites (as most are today) don't take up much space. You'd really be surprised.
And once you've filled up the first 20gb, and you're not ready for a vps or dedi, there's nothing saying you can't get another reseller account with inno. I'm just thinking that you're like a kid in an all-you-can-eat buffet. Everything looks so good and you know there are no limits so you pile on the food. But in the end, you will leave most of it on your plate as you get full quite quickly. I don't think you realize how little most sites actually use.
Also, Inno does allow overselling, so you could sell 5GB packages and still sell 20 of them because none of your clients actually use their 5GB. I would be careful with this and monitor it very closely, but you could do it and if a client does begin to use it, move them to another server.
Hmm.. You sounds like you have a point. But I'm going with dedicated server/VPS now.
And don't forget, this is what I've said. I suppose many didn't bother reading :P
I'm going to use the reseller account for my forum hosting, basically to upgrade normal accounts to premium accounts and give them a cPanel.
I may use the reseller account for some other purpose like hosting my own website.
gineey 10-06-2008, 08:54 AM I'm going to use the reseller account for my forum hosting, basically to upgrade normal accounts to premium accounts and give them a cPanel.
I may use the reseller account for some other purpose like hosting my own website.
You can also go for ( Windows or Linux )VPS Hosting with Plesk or any control panel you like to have. This way you can host your websites as well as Forums on the same server and easily upgrade to a dedicated server, whenever need in future.
VPS Servers are available in Managed / semi-managed Both, you may chose according to your needs and budget.
I can also re-commend you to go for a Semi-Dedicated servers, as they usally come with Fully Managed Feature that will save your time, which you are going to invest in Technical problem while using VPS.
But, if you are looking for specific Hosting cp or root access then you should go for VPS only.
teachforjune-Scott 10-06-2008, 09:28 AM Hmm.. You sounds like you have a point. But I'm going with dedicated server/VPS now.
And don't forget, this is what I've said. I suppose many didn't bother reading :P
Oops, sorry!
I did read that but it was so long ago, that I had forgotten.
You can also go for ( Windows or Linux )VPS Hosting with Plesk or any control panel you like to have. This way you can host your websites as well as Forums on the same server and easily upgrade to a dedicated server, whenever need in future.
VPS Servers are available in Managed / semi-managed Both, you may chose according to your needs and budget.
I can also re-commend you to go for a Semi-Dedicated servers, as they usally come with Fully Managed Feature that will save your time, which you are going to invest in Technical problem while using VPS.
But, if you are looking for specific Hosting cp or root access then you should go for VPS only.
A VPS for me should do :)
EviLito 10-08-2008, 09:07 PM It's interesting for me to see more people voting the poll for InnoHosting than for HostGator. I don't know, per example, let's see the disk space: $43/mo for 20 GB (inno) it's just too way far from $25/mo for 24 GB (HG)
I haven't tried them, so can you guys please tell me how Innohosting is better than HostGator according to what you have experencied with them? Thank you.
teachforjune-Scott 10-08-2008, 09:38 PM I haven't experienced host gator, but I can tell you that innohosting is one of the best webhosts that I have ever had in 10 years. You get everything you pay for, end-user support, whmcs (better than autopilot), top speeds, not overly sold boxes, great support, a company willing to listen to its customers, and an overall great experience.
There are mixed reviews about host gator and they are a known overseller. They don't offer end-support, and many people have reported slower server speeds and generic support.
I haven't experienced host gator, but I can tell you that innohosting is one of the best webhosts that I have ever had in 10 years. You get everything you pay for, end-user support, whmcs (better than autopilot), top speeds, not overly sold boxes, great support, a company willing to listen to its customers, and an overall great experience.
There are mixed reviews about host gator and they are a known overseller. They don't offer end-support, and many people have reported slower server speeds and generic support.
You sound like they are the best :D
teachforjune-Scott 10-08-2008, 10:36 PM I would say their good rep here on wht says it all. You can't go wrong with Inno. Rameen and Chris are really good guys and run a great hosting company.
And if you're planning on reselling to clients, you want a company that will stand behind you with great equipment, fast servers, and great support and you get all of that and more with Inno!
Hmm.. Thats suitable for small business :S
teachforjune-Scott 10-08-2008, 11:40 PM Although you may not be looking to start a small business, you still want the fastest and the best your money can buy. You certainly don't want your forums to be on an oversold box so that they run slowly.
So even if you are just getting a reseller so that you can have individual cpanels, Inno is still a great choice. Do a search for host gator. They are the best of the over sellers, but they also have their issues. Do a search for Inno and compare the two. Don't just search here on WHT, but also on google to get some other opinions and then make a choice based on what you need, what you get, and the reviews. Do not solely base your decision on price. You usually lose out if you do.
But InnoHosting is more expensive compared to most other hosts.. Maybe because they included the fee for back-end..
teachforjune-Scott 10-09-2008, 07:34 AM But the point that I'm trying to make is that you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR and if you want speed and reliability, you need to pay for it. If you want to go with a cheap host, then fine, but just know what you're getting yourself into.
01globalnet 10-09-2008, 08:31 AM I chose Hostgator since I have experience with them. Other good options would be BeachComber and InnoHosting.
But the point that I'm trying to make is that you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR and if you want speed and reliability, you need to pay for it. If you want to go with a cheap host, then fine, but just know what you're getting yourself into.
Yes, I second that. :agree:
But the point that I'm trying to make is that you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR and if you want speed and reliability, you need to pay for it. If you want to go with a cheap host, then fine, but just know what you're getting yourself into.
Actually, I just need a reseller account, so InnoHosting should had included back-end support charge which I don't really need it..
I just need a reseller account for personal use :S
IH-Rameen 10-09-2008, 10:24 AM Actually, I just need a reseller account, so InnoHosting should had included back-end support charge which I don't really need it..
The end user support we provide is done at such efficiency that it is very low cost to us. As such the prices of our packages would have been the same regardless of whether or not we intend to provide end user support.
5 years ago we didn't offer end user support, and our prices were higher.
cesarel 10-09-2008, 10:32 AM I wonder why aer there so many people voting for InnoHosting..
I was watching their site and they dont have live chat support, thats important when you are a reseller dont you think?
IH-Rameen 10-09-2008, 10:41 AM I was watching their site and they dont have live chat support, thats important when you are a reseller dont you think?
support.innohosting.com
You'll see technical support online 24x7 for live chat in addition to technical support being availabe 24x7 by telephone and email. :agree:
cesarel 10-09-2008, 11:18 AM support.innohosting.com
You'll see technical support online 24x7 for live chat in addition to technical support being availabe 24x7 by telephone and email. :agree:
If i could just erase what i said before... well sorry Innohosting people i was wrong... you do have all 24/7 support, now im reading more on you website, sorry again :| .
IH-Rameen 10-09-2008, 11:28 AM If i could just erase what i said before... well sorry Innohosting people i was wrong... you do have all 24/7 support, now im reading more on you website, sorry again :| .
No problem :) If you have any questions, you know where to find us :cool:
teachforjune-Scott 10-09-2008, 11:33 AM With Innohosting, you are paying for quality, not for any one service. You are paying for peace of mind and the speed and reliability of their servers and network. You are paying for their support and expertise.
So don't look at it as a la carte hosting. You're paying for great service all around!!
The end user support we provide is done at such efficiency that it is very low cost to us. As such the prices of our packages would have been the same regardless of whether or not we intend to provide end user support.
5 years ago we didn't offer end user support, and our prices were higher.
Hello. Your prices are way much higher than most other host, although reputable for reliability and efficiency.. Maybe you could consider revising the prices??
And may I know up till now, how many clients do you have currently?
teachforjune-Scott 10-10-2008, 07:54 AM I don't think Inno needs to reduce their prices. They don't want to scrape the bottom of the barrel with clients only choosing based on price. Then because the quality of the client is lower, problems tend to increase.
Innohosting is quality and their prices are aligned with that quality.
If you want a cheap host, then you don't want Innohosting, and you haven't realized the relationship between quality and price, nor have you understood the adage "You get what you pay for."
What we've been trying to tell you, but you are having difficulty understanding, is that if you want quality, support, reliability and speed, you need to pay for it. You will not get all of those things with a cheap host and a quality host is not going to reduce their prices so they fall into the cheap category!
jciampaglio 10-10-2008, 09:53 AM For a better answer to who you select tell us what your are hoping to accomplish. Your needs as a reseller will be individual so the collective experience of this audience should be able to help guide you based on your specific needs...
For a better answer to who you select tell us what your are hoping to accomplish. Your needs as a reseller will be individual so the collective experience of this audience should be able to help guide you based on your specific needs...
I wonder how many of you did not even bother to read my first post..
I'm going to use the reseller account for my forum hosting, basically to upgrade normal accounts to premium accounts and give them a cPanel.
I may use the reseller account for some other purpose like hosting my own website.
Jonathan J 10-10-2008, 10:19 AM If it were me, I would go with Innohosting, that's just my preference out of the other hosts you have listed. Why? I've heard many good reviews about them and they seem like a decent web host. Though it would probably be a tie also between GeekStorage, as I've seen some pretty decent reviews about them and from what they have on their website, they offer some decent stuff. (I like the idea of litespeed :- To which effect could be a major advantage for you!)
Yeah. I'm actually deciding on GeekStorage since they offer better plans that suits me more and they are pretty reliable too. But still kind of wanna go with InnoHosting, for some reasons..
I doubt I will choose HostGator as I've heard many negative complains regarding their uptime & support..
cesarel 10-10-2008, 10:38 AM Yeah. I'm actually deciding on GeekStorage since they offer better plans that suits me more and they are pretty reliable too. But still kind of wanna go with InnoHosting, for some reasons..
I doubt I will choose HostGator as I've heard many negative complains regarding their uptime & support..
If i where you, ill take INNOHOST, all the reviews i have read, and has beena lot!!! talk good about this company! thats only from what i read, i dont have INNOHOST, i have HOSTGATOR, and i have no complains, in a whole year my i just contact support for level 1 questions... so if you want to try it its good too, i was looking their VPS and looks good to.
I know they are very reputable in this industry, but some other host have similiar quality of service and have a much better plan and price too. But I saw lesser reviews about them though..
So I'm kind of stuck between GeekStorage & InnoHosting..
cesarel 10-10-2008, 10:49 AM I know they are very reputable in this industry, but some other host have similiar quality of service and have a much better plan and price too. But I saw lesser reviews about them though..
So I'm kind of stuck between GeekStorage & InnoHosting..
mmm GeekStorage, havn't read anything about them... ill make a research and be back here later, uu they give you 2 dedicated ip :) no seriously ill read more. (beer)
cesarel 10-10-2008, 10:52 AM http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=5271085
SoundsGood 10-10-2008, 11:22 AM I kinda wish ResellerZoom had been thrown into this poll.
cesarel 10-10-2008, 11:27 AM I kinda wish ResellerZoom had been thrown into this poll.
Why you wish that? explain yourself...
kjetterman 10-10-2008, 01:01 PM I just signed up with readywire today! After doing a lot of research, they had what I wanted as a reseller.
I had never even heard of them before! This thread is super helpful! :)
ReadyRick 10-10-2008, 07:35 PM Hi Kjetterman,
Welcome to ReadyWire! We're delighted to be able to serve your web needs. Welcome to the family!! :) :)
mmm GeekStorage, havn't read anything about them... ill make a research and be back here later, uu they give you 2 dedicated ip :) no seriously ill read more. (beer)
Hmm.. Thats strange, they are pretty popular and reliable :)
SoundsGood 10-11-2008, 01:47 PM Why you wish that? explain yourself...
Because ResellerZoom and InnoHost are the two big names on this forum that offer end-user support. The two of them tend to be tied together in many discussions here, so it's only natural to include them in this poll. Without them, I personally consider the results to be skewed (probably in InnoHost's favor).
teachforjune-Scott 10-11-2008, 09:59 PM However, I think you'll find many more mixed reviews of resellerZoom than you will of Innohosting. I chose Inno because of the many bad reviews I read about resellerZoom.
SoundsGood 10-11-2008, 10:07 PM I'm not saying that they would have done well, necessarily... just saying it would have been better if they were included in the poll.
Sorry, due to me not hearing about them from before, I didn't list them, basically, I got the list from advertistments I found lately in the forums :S
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