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View Full Version : Dedicated for free hosting
niklasvh 09-06-2002, 03:53 PM so first of all, im very new to to this forum, found it 1 min ago :D . And i dont know if you already talked about this, so sorry if i ask it again but im new :rolleyes: .
So im looking for (probably) a dedicated server (or somekind on large hosting plan), where i could host people for free, so i would need a server which is very cheap, like around $30, it would have a lot of space, and a lot of bandwidth, could you guys suggest me any??
Shane 09-06-2002, 04:00 PM Good Luck
niklasvh 09-06-2002, 04:02 PM ? so its not possible??
im not going to get paid anything from the free user, so i wouldnt be interested in paying like $100 a month from ym own pocket :confused:
porcupine 09-06-2002, 04:07 PM even $100/mo is cheap for a server.
Basically ask yourself this. If i were a company, why would i shell out cash out of my pocket so some guy can give away hosting for free?
Remember to think of that from a companies POV, not from a charities POV.
niklasvh 09-06-2002, 04:09 PM well is there some kind of resller or normal hosting that could be a better solution. And if i would get a server for like $120 month, would it be possible to get that money back by ads? And if so, what kind of ads, what company, and the url?
porcupine 09-06-2002, 04:14 PM I think you need to put a little more thought into your idea, there are a few "for profit free hosts" out there, and afaik they barely scratch by.
niklasvh 09-06-2002, 04:22 PM let me make me clear, i do not want to make profit! but i dont want to py for $100 a month either...
kcdworks 09-06-2002, 04:28 PM It's not going to happen, niklasvh ... the provider HAS to pay, which means you HAVE to pay ... regardless.
chuckt101 09-06-2002, 04:44 PM SO why are you doing this??
You want to offer a service for free and pay very little on your end?
No offense but, either don't offer the service or come up with a better idea than "a very cheap, like around $30, (server with)...a lot of space, and a lot of bandwidth"
If you are doing this for experience, then try setting up your own box at home...
If you have a broadband connection, you can host yoruself and a few friends to learn more... :)
clocker1996 09-06-2002, 05:01 PM $30 LOL
torwill 09-06-2002, 06:17 PM i remembered fdcserver.net had some 49/59 low end server deals with p2 cpu. but i can't find it now.
try linhost.com, if they have started selling servers.
30 dollar? just seems so impossible~
AntiSpamHosts 09-06-2002, 06:20 PM If the sites don't require much bandwith at once, maybe using you or your friends cable/DSL (assuming you have one) may work, and cost nothing for space, aside your computer and connection.
webby 09-06-2002, 06:43 PM $30 for dedicated impossible...... I think you better go for reseller plan
mind21_98 09-06-2002, 08:16 PM Hmm...I thought this was a sarcasm post, but he's actually serious. :mad:
Lowest you're going to get a dedicated for is probably $150 a month. Anything lower and it won't be decent.
Darth 09-06-2002, 08:21 PM $30!? :eek: good luck
Mar-y-Sol 09-06-2002, 09:09 PM If you find the free host, please come here and tell everyone.$30???? OMG
sonic 09-06-2002, 10:32 PM well... I offered free hosting service before and I close the service after I lost about 20,000 .
free hosting service consumes too much bandwidth and all other resources and you will never make it back by displaying advertisement.
and in my experiences , there is only 1% of uers would host "normal" web site and all others just use your service as their own online "hard drive" so that they can upload porns ` warez ` movies ` mp3 for others to download . After you offer this service, you just have to sit in front of the monitor all day and try to delete all those stuffs .
don't do it ......
I was unlucky cause no one told me about this before I started that service .
but now you can take my word and get away from this stupid free hosting idea.
ChickenSteak 09-06-2002, 10:43 PM :D
porcupine 09-06-2002, 10:55 PM Unless you limit the file size to 0.25mb space :) no more mp3's, warez, etc. :D
linux-tech 09-06-2002, 11:18 PM Remember, you get what you pay for in life.
As has been previously stated in this forum, why should someone give what they have to pay good money for away for free? That seems rather, well, rather redundant and ridiculous to me.
Of course, there's always going to be people who say "Hey, I'll host this or that for charity", but, when it comes down to it, you have no control over that, you have no guarantees that your host will be up tomorrow, or even the next day.
As has been recomended, if you want to just toy around with hosting, I'd advise picking up your favorite linux distro, a cable modem, and an eth0 card, and having fun that way.. if it's just a few people, your cable company shouldn't notice.
eddy2099 09-07-2002, 01:26 AM True, it doesn't quite seems like a good business framework especially with the technical supports, the spam and abuse issues which you would need to tackle along the way.
Earlier on, I did consider offering hosting services on my dedicated server because it is under-utilized but decided against it as the money isn't worth the trouble. So free would probably not quite cut it too.
Bandwidth cost money and they do not come cheap.
From my evaluation and from what I have seen here of web host appearing and disappearing, it does indicate that web hosting even free hosting is not for the faint-hearted.
eddy2099 09-07-2002, 01:46 AM Originally posted by niklasvh
well is there some kind of resller or normal hosting that could be a better solution. And if i would get a server for like $120 month, would it be possible to get that money back by ads? And if so, what kind of ads, what company, and the url?
I am not sure about the current pay out rates for Banners CPM now but you would probably have to generate tons of page views to break-even and even so, by generating the needed page views, you would also have to pay for tons of bandwidth. Does seems like a lose-lose situation.
But a quick check at I-Clicks Network,
http://www.i-clicks.net/publishers-ratecard.htm
The requirement is 5,000 page view a day and the payout is between 5 to 15c per 1,000 page view.
Say a standard 100kb per page size, you get a bandwidth consumption of 5,000 pages x 100kb = 500mb of bandwidth per day. File downloads such as MP3, ZIPs and all those do not count towards page views. The profit margin per month would be 5 x 30 x 15c = $22.50 at that minimum.
If you want to generate $120 per month in ads, you would have to show 800,000 page views a month or 26,667 page view per day. 800,000 page view would consume 80gb of bandwidth. If you get a Rackshack server at $99 a month, you should make a tidy profit of about $13/month.
That is all assuming you get the highest end of their pay out. At the lowest end, you be looking at 2.4 mil page views which would consume 240gb of bandwidth.
Still does not show up as good business concepts.
Edwin
torwill 09-07-2002, 03:17 AM well, i guess he wants adult ads!
PixelAxis 09-07-2002, 06:27 PM If you tell us how much space/bw you want exactly I'm sure someone can help you out.
FiberOptic 09-07-2002, 08:21 PM People...
Plz don't lough with his question...
I understand him and will make an offer here..
For 30$/month, I can offer you this dedicated server package:
- 2 servers*
- Unlimited Bandwidth**
- Unlimited Virtual hosts
- Primary and secundary nameserver
- 1 IP
- 2 SCSI harddisks on both servers
- RAID 1 controller (disk mirroring)
- Directly connected to the backbone of my network
*Server: Intel 80286,2MB RAM, 2x20MB HD
**bandwith limited to 8Kbps.
PixelAxis 09-07-2002, 08:23 PM Originally posted by FiberOptic
*Server: Intel 80286,2MB RAM, 2x20MB HD
**bandwith limited to 8Kbps.
:stickout
Brian S 09-08-2002, 03:46 AM Originally posted by sonic
don't do it ......
I was unlucky cause no one told me about this before I started that service .
but now you can take my word and get away from this stupid free hosting idea.
What, unhappy because people didn't tell you the secrets of the business? There's money to be made in free-hosting. But you have to know what you're doing, or stay small enough until you figure what to do.
I feel bad that you lost 20,000. That is a bit disturbing...
Brian
mainarea 09-08-2002, 10:21 AM If you want to offer free hosting, just check out http://www.CommunityArchitect.com - no need for your own servers, everything is run by FreeServers.com - I run my own (sample site: http://main.yoursector.com/ ) - 1-3 of their popups on each page, you get 50% of the banner ad views. - You will NOT make much, if any money doing this.
- Matt
Brian S 09-08-2002, 10:14 PM There is zero money to be made with advertising and free hosting. At best, you'll recoup your costs. The real value comes from premium upgrades, branding, and reputation. My free hosting business is now becoming a platform for me to release other services. I worked my butt off to create a solid, reliable service, with good support. And now I have something to point to when I create new offerings. The indirect value is the real goldmine.
Brian
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