Hi All,

I'm considering buying my own servers and moving out from the renting environment to the colo stage of our hosting biz. Before I jump into a hill of debt by purchasing any hardware, I would appreciate if anyone can relay good (or negative) experiences with colo companies. Does anyone have a favorite?

Thanks!

Eric

Ive heard alot of great things about rackspace, but hey are high(not for what they offer though).

Also ive heard alot about fastserver.net dedicated servers so since they also offer colocation you may want to try them.



As far as negatives,,
Ive hear ALOT of bad things about wholesalecolo(which doesnt even know if there in business it seems),rapidcolo.

*********** seems to be a new on trying to get started that i would suggest staying away from because of the parent company its owned by and some bad experiences ive personally had with them, but thats onlly my advice.

Hope this helps.

LOL i guess *********** is off to a great start!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG, thats funny.

I've had good experience so far with AffordableColo (http://www.affordablecolo.com). I believe there are several web hosts here that use them.

Richard

hah, whose the starred out company? :eek:

Defender Hosting
sales@defenderhosting.com

I'm currently hosted with them and not only has the guy (Tom) went straight out of his way for me, he is giving us everything we expected (and more) from his CAIS/Ardent-backboned hosting service.

The prices are VERY affordable too... it's almost a dream.

Comment from affordablecolo.com which has always made me laugh:

"WOW, IM getting 15ms ping times, this is the
fastest network I have ever seen!"
--Tony Gionti

15ms ping times? Is he LAN'd with the backbone or something? When I have LAN parties with my friends, they barely have 15ms pings...

lol...

Originally posted by kerplunk
Comment from affordablecolo.com which has always made me laugh:

"WOW, IM getting 15ms ping times, this is the
fastest network I have ever seen!"
--Tony Gionti

15ms ping times? Is he LAN'd with the backbone or something? When I have LAN parties with my friends, they barely have 15ms pings...

lol...

15ms looks fine to me, i've had those kinds of pings, quite rarely however. Do some traces from datacenter-to-datacenter with their little trace tools (www.traceroute.org). You'll see some pretty impressive numbers there too.

You should probably be getting less than 15ms on a LAN..

4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.242/0.254/0.269/0.010 ms

Defenderhosting.com has no web site?

I would put www.servercentral.net with the best of them.

Originally posted by braysurdi
Defenderhosting.com has no web site?

Nope, there web designer is a putz. lol

They have a lot of customers though. Tom even showed me a pic of his house. ;-)

I got a 12ms ping to my server, granted the server was in chicago and I was in a suburb. At any rate its not impossible. Go with Verio if you want the best.

Originally posted by kerplunk


Nope, there web designer is a putz. lol

They have a lot of customers though. Tom even showed me a pic of his house. ;-)

They host out of some guy's house?

Edit: NO, they don't host out of anyone's house. I misunderstood a comment above. Clarified below. :)

How do they get customers without a website? Word of mouth?

No, we aren't hosted out of my house!

The house thing started one day when I was talking to Kerplunk, and he sent me a pic of his house, and I sent him one of mine.

We are hosted at ServInt and moving to Equinix in a few weeks (can't wait!!).

Our site is being done/finsihed, but yes, most of our business is word of mouth, and been that way for almost a year now.

I'm not interested in going after the $99/5595959595959595GB server market, too low margin, and way to many headaches. Our business plan and model is in colocation and higher end servers, though we do now and again do some $100 servers when we buy extra's.

I just want to repeat again, since some folks will take this out of context - WE ARE NOT HOSTED OUT OF MY HOUSE!!! We are in a real DC, but I do have a full T1 to my house :-).

Tom
Tom

Originally posted by TomK
..but I do have a full T1 to my house :-).


Business must be going well, eh? :)

Yes, business is well.

BUT, the T1 is covered by my wireless ISP business that we run too, NOT the hosting company.

Sort of a community thing, enough to cover the T1 and in return, high-speed services since DSL is "sold out" and cable isn't here yet.

And let me clarify this, the T1 is waiting on install from Savvis/Verizon to replace 3 DSL lines in place today.

Tom

:pimp: I wait for the day I can afford a T1 line in my house...I would be pimp master of everyone. :pimp:

hey dreamhobo, where you live? That might be reality soon, i plan on making it possible for people/companies in the GTA sometime soon :)

Originally posted by dreamHOBO
:pimp: I wait for the day I can afford a T1 line in my house...I would be pimp master of everyone. :pimp:


I have one but since worldcomm is going out of business and I moved all my servers to my NOC, I'm letting it go.

Originally posted by TomK
I just want to repeat again, since some folks will take this out of context - WE ARE NOT HOSTED OUT OF MY HOUSE!!!

Sorry about putting some false info out there. I've edited my post to reflect my misunderstanding. Glad to hear you're not a HouseHost. :) Equinix should be nice.

hi everyone!
i am new out here, and was wondering if any body of you know about Rackspace, Datapipe or Webreseller dedicated web hosting services.

waiting for your replies

caretaker

I can't get either ADSL or Cable..... however there is a C&W POP in my area..... for £600/mbit I could get a leased line to it :eek: :bawling:

Originally posted by jdp29053
Ive heard alot of great things about rackspace, but hey are high(not for what they offer though).

Also ive heard alot about fastserver.net dedicated servers so since they also offer colocation you may want to try them.



As far as negatives,,
Ive hear ALOT of bad things about wholesalecolo(which doesnt even know if there in business it seems),rapidcolo.

*********** seems to be a new on trying to get started that i would suggest staying away from because of the parent company its owned by and some bad experiences ive personally had with them, but thats onlly my advice.

Hope this helps.


What bad things have you ever heard about rapidcolo? :eek: :eek: :eek:

Originally posted by Nadav


Business must be going well, eh? :)

T1s aren't terribly expensive, depending on how much quality you want. I've seen full T1s range from $400 for a ghetto connection, to $1,200, which is what I'm paying with Qwest for my personal T1 after taxes, loop, and basic Cisco equipment rental. However, that money isn't coming out of my CEO position, rather; my BOFH abilities at a local ISP.

BTW, I need a raise. :D

$1200 for 1.5mbps in todays market is extremely expensive, no matter how you look at it :eek:, granted local loops, etc. all cost the greenback, but it's still pricey bandwidth.

$800/mo is the best I can find for my area, though I would love to find a provider for like $300-$400/mo, even if it's a fractional T1.