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View Full Version : Registry price increase.
Very important topic for all serious domainers.
Most of you'll will know that ICANN has allowed gTLD registries to increase their prices by 7% each year....is this really necessary though? A .com registry earns an amazing amount from domain sales, effortlessly, so why do they need to increase their prices?
Secondly, Registrars are increasing their price because of this. enom, resellerclub, wwd, tucows, etc. all of them are going to increase their prices, but the question is how much?? I have resellerclub and enom accounts, both are going to increase their prices, resellerclubs will be about 7.89$, enom is going to be even higher, about 7.95$!!
when i talked to Resellerclub about this, they told me that they're keeping it under wraps for now, but they are making services like email hosting and managed dns completely free of charge to make up for the increase :O......Has anyone else heard about this?
desaid 09-18-2008, 05:46 PM Actually i just got an email from directi that the new pricing will be effective sometimes this month. Frankly a price increase from 6.99/7 to 9+ is IMHO a direct competition with resellers. Now i know most of us try to avoid crossing the 9.99 mark reselling to our clients, but when Regs pushes you, i guess you may do better selling Peanuts alongside Hosting than posting a $ 100 Domain!
Any cheaper Regs out there?
desaid 09-18-2008, 07:59 PM $10.0 Not 100...Typo.
Aorozco 09-18-2008, 08:25 PM Dynadot / resellone / internet.bs / domaincentral.
By now Dynadot look the strongest for non resellers, and resellone look ok for prices.
Mikey this way! 09-19-2008, 01:12 AM The price increase of Resellerclub is ridiculous. It affects me at an incremental cost of $1.40 per domain when the margins are already very low. :(
I seriously need to look at alternatives. :(
mellow-h 09-19-2008, 02:20 AM Its not 1.40$ friend, it is around 1.89$, moreover, they are changing slabs too :(
Aorozco 09-19-2008, 02:24 AM I dont analize yet. Only stop my intent to get the 1500 slab with the second Account. Dumb mistake of them
Mikey this way! 09-19-2008, 02:53 AM I dont analize yet. Only stop my intent to get the 1500 slab with the second Account. Dumb mistake of them
Really dumb.
I guess they will have to re-think their strategy
Aorozco 09-19-2008, 03:19 AM The strange thing is they was very good in marketing in the past. I have the Good Luck of saying to all my customers of the price rising some months ago, and he majority renew three years in advance.
My actual problem are around 5 .infos i transfer a week ago to my second account to update to 10 years and get better price.
desaid 09-19-2008, 08:02 AM Anyone know anything about resellone.net or alternatives, Im seriously considering moving to a reasonably priced reg since i cannot bear the thought of selling domains @ more than 9.99.
Mikey this way! 09-19-2008, 08:26 AM Anyone know anything about resellone.net or alternatives, Im seriously considering moving to a reasonably priced reg since i cannot bear the thought of selling domains @ more than 9.99.
It's OK but, I don't wanna pay $99 setup/activation fee. That's the reason i went with RC and not Enom.
desaid 09-19-2008, 09:26 AM About 5 years ago i think i paid RC/directi $199 activation fee. I didnt know thats no longer the case.
elmister 09-19-2008, 10:05 AM In the email i received they say they change from 6 slabs to 4, but they don't know the amounts corresponding to each slab, but some of you say you get worst pricing due to slab change, could you tell me the new slab levels?
Thank you
Mikey this way! 09-19-2008, 10:11 AM In the email i received they say they change from 6 slabs to 4, but they don't know the amounts corresponding to each slab, but some of you say you get worst pricing due to slab change, could you tell me the new slab levels?
Thank you
The slab levels and pricing is in the email.
desaid 09-19-2008, 10:19 AM They are yet to publish the new Slab.
elmister 09-19-2008, 10:45 AM The slab levels and pricing is in the email.
I meant the email doesn't have the information about how much money is needed to acchieve the new Slab 1, Slab 2, Slab 3 and Slab 4
It says that Slab 4 will register domains at 7.89$, but it doesn't say how much money is needed to get Slab 4, same for the other slabs
unlasheddeer 09-19-2008, 10:48 AM About 5 years ago i think i paid RC/directi $199 activation fee. I didnt know thats no longer the case.
the RC 199usd is a completely usable deposit, fully refundable.....the setup fee is like what wwd and resellone have, where you cant use the fee that you pay...and you have to pay this fee annually...
i think the slab restructure by RC is damn cool, my price only gets affected by 10 cents, even less than the registry hike :)
desaid 09-19-2008, 11:10 AM the RC 199usd is a completely usable deposit, fully refundable.....the setup fee is like what wwd and resellone have, where you cant use the fee that you pay...and you have to pay this fee annually...
Now that sucks. A non-usable deposit. Didnt quite catch that.
i think the slab restructure by RC is damn cool, my price only gets affected by 10 cents, even less than the registry hike :)
Oh i have an Idea! Could we swap the slab? im at 2nd (1499) and sure is hot in here. I like their API and the interface but dont like their new 'idea' of giving me free Managed $0.30 DNS in exchange of my wallet.
unlasheddeer 09-19-2008, 11:21 AM They are yet to publish the new Slab.
The new slab are like the old ones, only the last 2 slabs have been taken off...
Now that sucks. A non-usable deposit. Didnt quite catch that.
RCs' deposit is usable, while wwd and onlinenics' is not....thats the difference between a deposit and a setup fee...hence, RC has a deposit which i can use, while the others have a setup fee, which as the name suggests, is a fee which i cant use, thats definitely 1 point in favor of RC..
Most of you'll will know that ICANN has allowed gTLD registries to increase their prices by 7% each year....is this really necessary though? A .com registry earns an amazing amount from domain sales, effortlessly, so why do they need to increase their prices?
There are some good reasons for that. First off the prices stayed for quite some time the same, this and last year is the first time for a very long period that the prices went up.
The infrastructure to run a registry are quite expensive. Just look at the requirements from ICANN how fast they have to reply to an info or register command, how much downtime they are allowed to have.
Then have a look at the statistics of the registry. The amount of transactions they have to handle are amazing, you don't do this with one server in your backroom, that needs quite some equipment, software and stuff to have that running.
everity 09-19-2008, 03:12 PM Very important topic for all serious domainers.
Most of you'll will know that ICANN has allowed gTLD registries to increase their prices by 7% each year....is this really necessary though? A .com registry earns an amazing amount from domain sales, effortlessly, so why do they need to increase their prices?
Secondly, Registrars are increasing their price because of this. enom, resellerclub, wwd, tucows, etc. all of them are going to increase their prices, but the question is how much?? I have resellerclub and enom accounts, both are going to increase their prices, resellerclubs will be about 7.89$, enom is going to be even higher, about 7.95$!!
when i talked to Resellerclub about this, they told me that they're keeping it under wraps for now, but they are making services like email hosting and managed dns completely free of charge to make up for the increase :O......Has anyone else heard about this?
I agree that the registries are probably not in need of more cash, but there is one advantage to these increases. A lot of domain names are purchased by investors rather than by the people who actually need them. It makes it hard on small businesses to get a good domain name. Higher prices for domains means that fewer will be bought up and sat on by people who don't intend to use them, and therefore more will be available to the people who really need them.
Aorozco 09-19-2008, 08:47 PM Many logicboxes are usable. If RC say the new slab a week ago i can get the 1000 USD for "jump" the 99 resellone step, but now i Have in 45 days most of my domains and only can get 499 - 700 USD if go with them.
I Am sitting and planning, about resellone.net. Is nearly sure i sign with them the next friday.
Mikey this way! 09-19-2008, 11:50 PM I agree that the registries are probably not in need of more cash, but there is one advantage to these increases. A lot of domain names are purchased by investors rather than by the people who actually need them. It makes it hard on small businesses to get a good domain name. Higher prices for domains means that fewer will be bought up and sat on by people who don't intend to use them, and therefore more will be available to the people who really need them.
This price increase will only affect Resellers IMO.
I don't think this increase will affect Investors.
unlasheddeer 09-20-2008, 04:51 AM Many logicboxes are usable. If RC say the new slab a week ago i can get the 1000 USD for "jump" the 99 resellone step, but now i Have in 45 days most of my domains and only can get 499 - 700 USD if go with them.
I Am sitting and planning, about resellone.net. Is nearly sure i sign with them the next friday.
hmmm.... resellone.net has not yet given out its new till now, when only a few days remain till the registry hike, we shouldn't jump the gun....and as somebody pointed out before, that resellone has long been dead, no updates on their forums, etc, its a risky company right now, i dont want to risk going with them right now...
elmister 09-20-2008, 05:05 AM This price increase will only affect Resellers IMO.
I don't think this increase will affect Investors.
The price is for everybody, no matter if you are an investor, a reseller or the paperboy
It's the registry who raises his prices
xeonfan 09-20-2008, 05:35 AM RC should certainly Lower the Top SLAB Pricing.
with a lot of reseller under your chain, its passing on a very bad message to your resellers.
Aorozco 09-20-2008, 08:26 AM As dfar i see, theplanet give support anyway via telephone and live chat.
Mikey this way! 09-20-2008, 08:35 AM The price is for everybody, no matter if you are an investor, a reseller or the paperboy
It's the registry who raises his prices
I know that the price change is for all.
What I meant was that resellers like us who resell domains will be badly affected due to this increase. The price increase by registry is very less compared to the price hike of RC. It affects me $1.40 per domain. Already the margins are thin.
Investors won't give a **** about this hike as they don't resell anything on thin margins. It won't affect them in any way.
mrzippy 09-21-2008, 03:27 PM The price increase by registry is very less compared to the price hike of RC. It affects me $1.40 per domain. Already the margins are thin.
There are lots of alternatives to RC if you want to switch to a different (lower cost) registrar.
Investors won't give a **** about this hike as they don't resell anything on thin margins. It won't affect them in any way.
I don't agree. Any business that is hit with a 7% price increase is going to be effected financially. Only investors with a lot of capital are going to "not give a ****". Everyone else (the vast majority of domain squatters) are going to think twice.
Personally, I think the cost of domains should be much much higher. But I think the "extra" money should go into charity services or something, not into some corporation's pocket.
Otherwise, ICANN needs to grow some balls and deal with domain squatters once and for all. But in a free market, there is no way to do this except raise the buy price.
:)
elmister 09-23-2008, 07:14 PM I've sent a support ticket to OnlineNic and here is the answer
Thanks for your mail.
This is Selina from OnlineNIC sales support team.
Recently, Domain registries VeriSign, Afilias, Neulevel and Public Interest Registry increase their wholesale prices on .com/.net/.org domain extensions.
As a consequence, we will adjust our reseller price on .com/.net/.org domain extensions and post the new price on our website on October 1st. The rise rate is the same as last time (on October 1st,2007).
If you need some help, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
Selina
Sales Representative
Channel Sales Division
OnlineNIC,Inc
They will announce the new pricing AFTER the price is increased
Aorozco 09-23-2008, 11:04 PM LOL.. I have two domains with them and go out for the awful Whois.
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