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SimonMc
09-05-2002, 04:07 PM
Now Yahoo are charging 299 bucks just to consider listing you...has anybody bothered?

Anyway...how do they get off just saying that they will consider you for 299...where is the proof they actually do it. What is to stop them just taking your money...and doing nothing?

Surely this is is some kind of scam....what if I charged money for the posibility that I might provide a service. Huh...you might say...well if people will buy it..! But seriously..how can Yahoo get away with this? And...is it worth it if I actually pay up?

Simon

pgrote
09-05-2002, 04:47 PM
Nope, they have been doing it for a while.

It is a pain for if they find an error with your site you're out $299. Last I look your site had to work in NS 4.X.

Acronym BOY
09-05-2002, 04:50 PM
Thats because Yahoo is a directory, not a search engine. Yahoo sucks.

Gary King
09-05-2002, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Acronym BOY
Thats because Yahoo is a directory, not a search engine. Yahoo sucks.

Yahoo is a directory and a search engine, but yes, Yahoo sucks (as a search engine/directory, anyways).

secludo
09-05-2002, 05:11 PM
I got listed for free back in 1999 :D

Took over a year though.

Acronym BOY
09-05-2002, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Blak n Wite
Yahoo is a directory and a search engine, but yes, Yahoo sucks (as a search engine/directory, anyways).

True, it does have a search engine portion (licensed with Google), but to be listed (and pay the $300) that goes into the directory.

My fault.

SimonMc
09-06-2002, 06:03 AM
But what do you think about taking 300 bucks off of you...just to consider adding you to the directory....and who is to say they actually even bother to consider you. Where is the proof. Surely this isn't even legal. Or maybe it is and I am missing something really obvious.

Simon

mlovick
09-06-2002, 06:41 AM
They are just taking people for dumb idiots! Shell out $300 for a maybe? No way.


Most sane people would want a guaranteed return for their investment.

DotComster
09-06-2002, 09:30 AM
Yahoo is over rated.

davidb
09-06-2002, 10:00 AM
whoa. Everyone slow down.

First off, many people who get in yahoo, paid or not, get results.
Second, you are looked at, if they do NOT except you, you have 30 days to make the changes and they check again. They are strict. No under construction allowed.

Follow the rules and you should get in. THey do check and they do it in 7 days.

secludo
09-06-2002, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by DotComster
Yahoo is over rated.

It is, but lots and lots of people use it ;) This is where most of my visitors come from.

secludo
09-06-2002, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by davidb
whoa. Everyone slow down.

First off, many people who get in yahoo, paid or not, get results.
Second, you are looked at, if they do NOT except you, you have 30 days to make the changes and they check again. They are strict. No under construction allowed.

Follow the rules and you should get in. THey do check and they do it in 7 days.

:eek:

Took me over a year and I had the only fan site for the particular person at the time, there were no broken links, was 100% browser compatible (Netscape 4.x and up, Mozilla, Opera, even looked not bad in Lynx, hehe - and looked okay in previous Netscape versions), and everything else.

davidb
09-06-2002, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by secludo


:eek:

Took me over a year and I had the only fan site for the particular person at the time, there were no broken links, was 100% browser compatible (Netscape 4.x and up, Mozilla, Opera, even looked not bad in Lynx, hehe - and looked okay in previous Netscape versions), and everything else.


Sorry, im just a tad confused on why u quoted me when you responded. I guess, did you have a problem with what I said. Seemed like it was fine. Sorry, im just confused

JayC
09-06-2002, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by SimonMc
Surely this isn't even legal. Or maybe it is and I am missing something really obvious.Yes, that it is their directory and they can run it any way they want to. There are no laws guaranteeing that every site will be included at every search engine or directory; there's nothing in any way illegal about what they're doing.

You realize that it's $299 per year, right? So maybe that will ease your paranoia that they'll just take the money and not even look at your site: it's to their advantage to get your site in so that they can start collecting the annual fee.
Originally posted by Secludo
Took me over a year and I had the only fan site for the particular person at the time, there were no broken links, was 100% browser compatibleBut you're talking about a free submission made in 1999, right? That's a completely different thing. If you pay the fee today, you'll get reviewed within a few days.

Whether it's worth it depends a lot on what business you're in and at least as importantly on how you are placed in the directory. We've placed a few sites in Yahoo and never have had one turned down (in fact, with some conditions attached -- like it has to be a reasobably good site -- we guarantee to clients that they'll get in or we'll pay the $299), but we have had to argue with Yahoo editors over the category in which they placed a site.

mina_babe
09-06-2002, 11:21 AM
Yahoo? Yahoo?!

Slowly I turn... step by step, inch by inch... :mad:

secludo
09-06-2002, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by davidb



Sorry, im just a tad confused on why u quoted me when you responded. I guess, did you have a problem with what I said. Seemed like it was fine. Sorry, im just confused

Actually I quoted you mainly because of the, "no under construction allowed" part of your post. I was a bit surprised at the fact that it DID take me that long, as I had the only updated and running site on this artist at that time (and still currently), and my site was 100% finished and very nice, since I put a large amount of time into it before advertising.

Nothing wrong with what you said at all, I should have edited out the parts that I didn't mean to quote, I apologize.

secludo
09-06-2002, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by JayC
But you're talking about a free submission made in 1999, right? That's a completely different thing. If you pay the fee today, you'll get reviewed within a few days.

But that's not true (getting reviewed within a few days) based on what the original author of this thread says. I wouldn't know, I've never looked into it since I don't need to, but based on what is said in the first post here they don't necessarily put you in their directory, even if you pay.

Is it that you HAVE to pay to get in, or that you can still submit sites (that will in fact be reviewed) but it just takes a long time? I know that they still have the "Suggest A Site" link there since I looked the other day, but do they even bother looking at sites that are to be put in without pay?

JayC
09-06-2002, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by secludo


But that's not true (getting reviewed within a few days) based on what the original author of this thread says. I wouldn't know, I've never looked into it since I don't need to, but based on what is said in the first post here they don't necessarily put you in their directory, even if you pay. That's right, what they're offering for the $299 is that they'll review for site and consider adding it to the directory, not that they'll add it. And that's exactly what I said in the post you quoted above: if you pay the fee, you'll get reviewed promptly. You may or may not then be added to the directory.

The question of how long it might take to get reviewed isn't addressed at all in the original post. Worthen has no experience at all with it but just (apparently) found out about the fee and is concerned that he'll pay but they won't look at his site anyway.

Free submission (a couple of possible "back door" opportunities notwithstanding) is no longer available for commercial sites. Non-commercial sites can still submit for free, but there's no guarantee as to when they'll be reviewed. So non-commercial sites can also "choose" to pay the fee and be reviewed quickly.

The "suggest a site" link that you saw links to a page where you can make your submission. If you follow that link from a commercial category, it takes you to a sign-up page for the $299 "Express Submit" program. In other words, you suggest a site by paying for it!

SimonMc
09-06-2002, 04:15 PM
I don't want to sound paranoid ...but after all the corporate scandals that have been going on in the US recently...I just want the proof that they reviewed the site...to a set criteria and then if they reject it...say why they rejected it. For 300 bucks...is that asking too much?

Like I said before...what is stopping them just pocketing the cash...because say...that week they were a little bit busy...you know..holiday week and all that...lack of staff...etc etc....

Where is my proof. I paid for a review....now prove you gave me the service...is that too much to ask?

Simon

Owen
09-06-2002, 05:32 PM
Sure, look at all the sites that DID get in. :)

Owen

templates911
09-06-2002, 10:33 PM
Im not shelling out $299 for listing in yahoo for awhile. Even though it could help our business. Dont they even check spelling and grammar?

secludo
09-06-2002, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by JayC
That's right, what they're offering for the $299 is that they'll review for site and consider adding it to the directory, not that they'll add it. And that's exactly what I said in the post you quoted above: if you pay the fee, you'll get reviewed promptly. You may or may not then be added to the directory.

The question of how long it might take to get reviewed isn't addressed at all in the original post. Worthen has no experience at all with it but just (apparently) found out about the fee and is concerned that he'll pay but they won't look at his site anyway.

Free submission (a couple of possible "back door" opportunities notwithstanding) is no longer available for commercial sites. Non-commercial sites can still submit for free, but there's no guarantee as to when they'll be reviewed. So non-commercial sites can also "choose" to pay the fee and be reviewed quickly.

The "suggest a site" link that you saw links to a page where you can make your submission. If you follow that link from a commercial category, it takes you to a sign-up page for the $299 "Express Submit" program. In other words, you suggest a site by paying for it!

You are correct, you did say "review" and "consider" and not "add" - my misconception and I apologize.

So what's the point in paying $300? To send your site in and "allow" Yahoo to review it and tell you whether or not it is good enough to go in their directory?

floppy
09-07-2002, 12:12 AM
There is no point just spend 300 bucks to get listed in yahoo directory. It is better you give your site for review in WHT and see what you can do with it.

Acronym BOY
09-07-2002, 12:48 AM
First off, the fee if only for "Express" which just speeds it up. Secondly, you are erquired to use Express if you are a business. Why is that? Becasue no ads are for free, and as business thats exactly what you are doing, you are asking for a $300 a year ad ($600 for you porno guys). No such thing as a free meal.

SimonMc
09-08-2002, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Acronym BOY
you are asking for a $300 a year ad ($600 for you porno guys). No such thing as a free meal.

I don't mind paying 300 bucks per year if is accepted. The point is..they want 300 bucks just to take a look. Where is their published criteria for being accepted. Where is the report after the review. What am I getting for my 300 bucks....that is tangable.

Simon

JayC
09-08-2002, 03:39 PM
Simon, your point is very clear, but it what it comes down to is what the decision to purchase any product or service comes down to: if you don't like what's offered, don't buy.

I'm by no means a Yahoo fan, but the fact remains that for some sites $299 per year is still a good investment. On the other hand, it's by no means necessary for a successful site. It's just one promotional tool that's available.