It seems that the more clicks I have each day the less money I am getting paid per click.

To illustrate, before my site was poplular, I had days where I made 75 cents from just one or two clicks.

A couple days later, my site exploded and I had 77 clicks but only made 6.25!! That's only 8 cents per click!!

Today, 4 clicks and only 20 cents so far!!!! That's 5 cents/click!!

What's happening?!!!! Anyone else had this or can advise me what to do???

Thanks!!

I'm guessing adsense normalizes the value of clicks somewhat. But it also depends on particular ads. I have ads on both a forum and main site. The forum doesn't get many clicks, but they are usually high-value clicks. The site gets a few more clicks, but they have always been low-value from the start even when I get only one or two clicks.

I have had good results switching to image-based ads which seem to do better and attract more attention. I'm still waiting to see if it tapers off in the coming days/weeks.

Hi aqaz69,

I'm just a fledgling with my traffic hits - can I ask how you managed the sudden explosion of traffic?

Many Thanks for any help you or anyone else can offer!

I believe it depends on how much the advertised website has its CPC set at.

I have seen my adsense adverts change periodically. Maybe it just so happens your clicks were of lower value when you got those huge traffic clicks and High valued click when you had low traffic. (pretty unlucky if that's true though)

I believe Google is a reputable company and unlikely to be getting into any kind of cheap tricks.

I have my share of adsense sites. 3 years ago I could make $2,000 a month with one site. Now I have maybe 30 that make a few hundred dollars combined.

On the flip side I can't buy a click through for website hosting for less tha $8. But I rarely get clicks over $0.10 on my sites.

Of course google is going to keep the higher clicks for themselves. They have let people opt out of the content network and bid as low as $0.01 per click. That does not help my numbers any and it has not made it cheaper to advertise.

I had over 50 sites at one time with google adsense. And no matter what season, no matter which site had clicks the numbers always blanced at $0.10 per click.

I feel like google will pay you what they think you need to keep advertising for them. Since they refuse to disclose what they actually pay and nobody knows what the real numbers are you just have to take what you get.

I have pretty much opted out of their program becuase it is not profitable unless you have huge click throughs and I can make more money with affiliate programs.

As google grows and they need more money for their bad habits, ie, youtube, doubbleclick and so on. Since there are no eyse watching the numbers they can skim payouts to keep their bottom line up. That is not good for us.

the clicks are measured on after click time too. Google has gotten stingy, and would not recommend using them unless being ripped off is your thing. Google found out they were paying too much to their publishers and found a way to save money by offering more security features. Adsense works on a ratio / quality. if you send one click per hour and google see's the click as a genuine clicker coming from a quality page, then your worth more.

Example. say you syndicate content with google ads on it vs. original content with google ads on it, why would google pay someone who uses someone elses work to profit on? now, if i typed up a post and placed an ad under it, is this worth more? In google's eyes it is, why? because quality means promotion.

It takes hard work to type up those documents, google pays a good 2 dollar click to you while google makes 8 dollars! sounds like a great way to make money now doesn't it. Here is the real kicker. 3 years ago, the internet was smaller, rss was used for promotional purposes, rss is used for marketing purposes.

The reason your making a few hundred bucks today is because there are a few hundred thousand pages that look like yours using a lrnc browser. Google is blind by default, and when it finds a fresh page, google awards you with it so google can then mark it as original until copies are made.

using Rss is an evil thing, especially if you write your own stuff. why do you think google doesn't use it?

As far as originality is concerned, I have a tshirt site that I just put google adwords on. Initially I got some high paid click throughs but it has settled around the 13 - 20 cent mark. Does the fact I have 2 banners on the front page impede on my CPC rate? Does having 2 banners on my site reduce the uniqueness of this site - reason I say this is when google does a crawl it also picks up the google ads displayed on my page, therefore other people would have similar ads on their page which would reduce the originality of my website...

Does that make sense.??? :) - perhaps it's just a conspiracy theory!

Also MaxFragNetwork thanks for the reply re. increasing traffic to my site - I was hoping to get peoples opinion on natural traffic rather than relying on paying.


Cheers,

google ad code is java script. Search bots are unable to read java,flash,and iframes. There for those other ads your talking about, do not conflict with your page keywords unless you can see those keywords when doing a view source.
-Jeff

Hi Jeff,

That was my assumption. However after creating some adwords and running them for a month or so I put my website URL into google search finding obviously my website, other references that I created i.e. discussion groups and the like, and also some websites which have previously had my adword ads displayed (i.e. random sites). Not sure how, but for those who are using adwords on a website give it a go and let me know if you get the same thing.

Cheers,

Thanks for all your interesting feedback! I have noticed that my pay per click always averages around 10 cents too!

The decision I need to make now is whether I'd be better off with pay per lead or pay per sale. My website is not that popular yet and the most I get per day is about 2000 page impressions.

Should I drop adsense and use that space for comission junction?

Google closed my account a few days ago, aparently because I got way to much money. The said I was "abusing" their other advertisers.

Yet, they refuse to give me any valid proof on that. IMO, Google are greedy morons.

One reason I stopped using google adwords was because spam sites were getting indexed for my site names because google was reading their own ads as content in the page. That would be fine if the ads would remain the same, but they are different with every page view.

So while they were serving results with teh content for teh ads on the page when they crawled it, the people loking for the content will never find it.

What would make google think it is good to include their own ads in the page content?

Having the google ads will drop you in yahoo and msn, but with google, they see it as content that keeps changing. So you win with google, unfortunately you get traffic for something that is not there anymore.

In my opinion google has killed the usefulness of the internet with adsense. You could cut 80% of the sites online and still have the same content. They made it proitable to build spam and they support it.

While we're at google adsense, anyone with any reliable, competent ads system ?

I created a post like this a while back as well. It seems that every single month I make just enough to get paid $105 - $110. No matter how many clicks or sites that use adsense I always make that same amount. I could make $90 in one week and then at the end of the month still only have $100. I think they balance your ads and give you crappy low paying ones to balance it out. I know when I first signup to adsense they must have placed the highest paid ads on my site since I made $400 in one month and got excited that the ads can cover the hosting costs.

Yea, there are a few and have been studying affiliate networks and how they work. The one I'm currently playing with is datafeedfile.com . They got really nice tools, however it can be a tedious task trying to match merchants with your merchants on datafeedfile.com. Shareasale.com is stubborn. I made 4 dollars and my account was canceled without warning explaining my account was never coming back. yea... after about 4 months of buying of building a huge site using their datafeeds, they pull this on me. I'm starting to think this is becoming a trend so they don't have to pay us.

CJ.com has a lawsuit out i think right now for messing with the publishers impression stats.

linkshare.com is a decent one and have not made money yet, but they do offer rss feeds of products for easy importing. they got about 2000 merchants. real simple to use.

clickbank is like working with a cheap gold watch and it reminds me door to door vacuumed sale man with a sales pitch to go with. Made 14 dollars on this about a year ago, since then its like im invisible with all these places.

Work night and day on working with various sites only to see at the end of the day I'm eating table scraps for a meal. I've been hard core understanding this affiliate marketing.

But for some reason, i can't make a dollar worth something even if i worked another 12 hours on it. Some days it's like god hates me this or that, but again for some reason i keep on working with it because I see the money can be made.

In my opinion the internet is getting over saturated with ads and such. There are probably more sites that pull data using someone else's work, spammers, scammers, and kids who abuse the system now made the nerds who know this stuff to a loyal view gets dissed and pissed on like we are a scammer too.

Listen, I've gotten to a point where dreaming is all I can be, even if it's just sitting in front of my 52 inch plasma computer monitor making a few cents a week, no joke. im lucky to make a dollar a week. Let alone thinking about a date. Sheesh, woman cost money, and it just seems to me, I'm must be missing something, or I'm really not getting it.

Whats your opinion. simple thing is, I'm getting ripped off every day knowing its not worth checking my stats because it nothing to celebrate at burger king for. just my two cents worth.
Being on welfare isn't so bad, once we can see what we can not have. It's a joke, but its what i know from experience.
(sorry about the venting)
-Jeff Zakovec

It is depressing with the amount of competition and crap out there, but you've just gotta keep resaerching and improving on what you have, otherwise you will be left behind. Early days it was really easy to make money b/c not many people had an idea of how to make these sites. People are like sheep they follow the money, creating a saturated environment and making it more difficult with the competition.

Cheers,

I don't think your allow it seems i'm getting clicks but the ration pay is getting lower. I've talked with a few webmasters and it seems to be happening across to the board, i'm not sure if its advertisers paying less or the economy effecting the price.

since the dollar is loosing value, this may be an easy answer to why it may seem lower. desperate times for everyone. just stick it out. Thanks Ausman for your reply, it's always great to hear encouragement. To be honest, giving up is not really an option because the value says it's compatible through intense patients. Patients is the key. Slowing down more, so sites can grow like children, just need to keep an eye on them and hope the seeds grow. Gives me more time to learn about whats not taught yet.

Im going to bed,
-Jeff Zakovec

Listen, I've gotten to a point where dreaming is all I can be, even if it's just sitting in front of my 52 inch plasma computer monitor making a few cents a week, no joke. im lucky to make a dollar a week. Let alone thinking about a date. Sheesh, woman cost money, and it just seems to me, I'm must be missing something, or I'm really not getting it.


Sounds almost like me only I make more than a few cents but it is nothing compared to a few years ago when I would make $500 per day in my sleep from automated seo link sales. Google killed that when they revamped their PR system and banned PR for all directories even if they were not spam related. Funny you mention that about dating since I feel that it is a waste of money myself. Before the internet I felt like I needed a girlfriend but I spend 16 - 22 hours per day working on the internet waiting for Yahoo, Microsoft, or Google to pay me millions for one of my sites :D

so true. It's that million dollar thought. It's nice to know there are other workaholic slaves that exist.

-Jeff Zakovec

One good thing about having an internet job is that we can work anywhere we want so even if the US collapses I can just move to another country :P I heard Sweden has the best chicks.

Sweden is quite good for girls - Australia's not bad either! It's also just starting to warm up over here for summer so the beaches will be full...

Also Jz, perhaps you should consider investing your time into creating your own product. i.e. create your own piece of niche software or easier still create your own ebook rather than rely on affiliate marketing and adsense. Check out http://www.ratedebooks.com it's only $4.97 to buy and offers insight on how you go about creating your own product. It also comes with the complete audio on how to write an ebook and create your own products for the lazy!

Cheers,

hmmm not sure if I'm allowed to post a url here - I just read the rules... ooops.

Google closed my account a few days ago, aparently because I got way to much money. The said I was "abusing" their other advertisers.

Yet, they refuse to give me any valid proof on that. IMO, Google are greedy morons.

I had the serving of ads disabled on one of my sites 2 days ago due to "Content that promoted racial discrimination".

Besides the fact it has no such content, my site is a mashup of 3 other very popular sites that display adsense yet they are still serving ads just fine.

Go figure, who's discriminating who? I believe what Google have done is illegal.

I have come across articles and sites mentioning how some people out there makes heaps of money using adsense which is actually their sole means of income.

I wonder how that is even possible with all these real reports coming where it seems impossible to make a constant reasonable amount of money with adsense.

That's what I'm wondering, and that's why I started this thread!

I am still averaging only 10 cents per click, it seems that adsense is trying to limit my possible income.

Yet I look at my compeitor's sites and they are making all of their revenue through google ads. And these are large sites that have been around.

Sometimes its as if the competitor always knows something we don't know which keeps them at the top.

Maybe this sounds lame but maybe they are large sites and google acts differently with such sites? Just a guess.

OK so I added some adsense picture ads to my individual post pages and I am only getting about 2 cents per click!! That's WAY worse than the text ads! I still think adsense is ripping me off..