ARE THESE GUYS SIMPLY THE BEST IN THE GAME? LOWEST PRICED FOR MOST FUNCITIONALITY?

Originally posted by mjtint
ARE THESE GUYS SIMPLY THE BEST IN THE GAME? LOWEST PRICED FOR MOST FUNCITIONALITY?

No they are the worst company I have ever dealt with. And quit your yelling :angry:

Given the recent rackshak spam policy I would be worried about going with them for putting shared hosting customers on - might be good for single site servers though.

"Best" is as subjective as something like beauty. Obviously some people have had great experience with Rackshack, and some have not. It depends on your skill level with server admin and your luck I guess.

They are certainly one of the cheapest dedicated server hosts around. The best host will always depend on your own needs as GeorgeC pointed out.

>"Best" is as subjective as something like beauty. Obviously some people have had great experience with Rackshack, and some have not. It depends on your skill level with server admin and your luck I guess.<

Not anymore true for RS now, things have changed over there. As RS's growing bigger, customer's satisfaction is going lower. They don't care their customers anymore. My suggestion, avoid this host if you can, you won't regret that later like most did.

well, they are cheap but there are some cheap ones out there too like nocster or fastservers in terms of monthly.

do not be trapped by their cheap setup fee. but if for personal site, it is ok to go with them..

If RS is not the best and cheapest, then who is??

To Howard: I wetn to www.fastservers.net and they are more expensive. What were you talking about?

www.fdcservers.net is about the same pricing as rackshack but their policies are better toward customers reguarding bandwith

hehe

What are so bad about RS policies?

You can't really have a 'best' for something that has multiple possible applications. They are definatly one of the most successful low priced dedicated server companies but generally the 'best' in quality isnt the 'best' in price and visa versa.

-Brendan

mjtint: How long is a piece of string?

It's the same as the question that you just asked, without more information, there is no definitive answer.

Rackshack's network certainly beats any other 99$ server networks alough some good companies run the odd special. There are several other companies around that offer a similar deal on pricing to.

Rackshack arn't realy as cheap as everyone thinks though I mean to add another harddrive costs a fair bit on top of which there 8% tax added in where as other companies you pay what they say on there site. Also most other companies can charge you a big setup on extra's and be more flexable rackshack on the other hand is not flexable in the slighest. Also most of rs's tech's don't realy much more than the words restore. There not the best in alot of area's but it realy depends on what you need.

Originally posted by mjtint
What are so bad about RS policies?

well in the recent past they have mis-charged their customers for bandwith overages even though their meter was broke. Some customers signed up for garaunteed un-metered dedicated connections at a premium price(an unmeasured connection that remains until your own server gives out) and when rackshack felt they were using too much bandwith they decided to cut them and charge them for overages without warning even though they were paying for an "un-metered" connection and their servers were still operational. You recieve an email AFTER you have been charged!

Their bandwith monitor has been up and down for the past 2 years and has never given the customer an accurate reflection of what they say the users are using.

Many of their users installed bandwith monitors on their servers on their own and weighed their results against what RS said and found enormous inconsistencies. When these inconsistencies begin costing you or your business $1.50/gigabyte the sweat starts to mount.

If you are running a server with a 400 GB liimit and measure yourself to use for example (300 GB in a month) but rackshack's broken monitor says you used 800 GB, guess what bud, you will find a $600 charge for overages on your credit card! :eek:
You may or may not find out about it until you recieve an e-mail a day later stating you are over bandwith

More recently they accused practically all users on their network of outrageous overages due to an error causing widespread panic and never sent out e-mails explaining the situation. I just about SHIOT my pants when i read "Your current bandwidth for your server is at 6752 gigabytes of transfer.
The maximum for your account is 400 gigabytes." They posted an explanation on their webboard and thats about it (but how many of their users bother to read their web board?) An email would have been nice.

I just think they should not charge overages until they impliment a successfully tested monitoring system tested in their environment and even then, No self respecting business goes and automatically charges a client $1000 on a credit card without consulting them first.

just read these forums and you will find over 200 stories like this (if they haven't been erased yet)

hehe

btw,

RS owns these forums now so expect a little bias in their favor from the posts that remain :D

If you don't mind shelling out an extra $36 on top of $99 a month for a dedicated server, I think www.fastservers.net is the best route. :)

Originally posted by xelA
If you don't mind shelling out an extra $36 on top of $99 a month for a dedicated server, I think www.fastservers.net is the best route. :)


at a maximum offering of only 300GB/month fastservers doesn't seem like a route at all for some of us

exactly, so what is the best route to take?

well what is your plan for your server?

what do you plan to do?
host?
serve media/files?
serve plain http pages?

how many users do you have?

how much bandwith would you need in a month?

what kind of processes would you be running on your server?

do you need support or are you a unix/apache guru?

what kind of speed do you need?



you need to factor in all sorts of things

I'm going to be needing as much as bandwith I can get, over 300GB is for sure. I'll be hosting multiple domains.

ok but what do you intend to do with the bandwith?

Another question, what is the difference bettween managed servers and non managed? What do they do for you? Is it the way to go?

I do not have a bandwith limit, as much as I can get for the cheapest, hopefully lower than 95 bucks a year.

Originally posted by mjtint
I do not have a bandwith limit, as much as I can get for the cheapest, hopefully lower than 95 bucks a year.

$95 a year??

LOL
that wont get you squat

count on paying at least $99/month for any basic bare bones server and bandwith


unmanaged = do it yourself set up, installs, etc.
they give you access to a machine from a DOS prompt
thats all you get. If your hardware fails, you usually get to complain about that. but thats it!


managed = they do it for you, costs more but anything you ask for is done. webserver install, configurations, etc.

so with managed they even set up customer/new domain name accounts for you for free?

Originally posted by mjtint
so with managed they even set up customer/new domain name accounts for you for free?

most of the time, yes

depends who you go with
but expect to pay upwards of $150/month for a service like that with any type of bandwith

http://www.nocster.com/

they give you managed servers for 99/month, is that correct?
And are they any good?

Also, what is suburovo.com? Heard some people here talking about it, but i cant access the site.

once again,

Nocster is one of those that doesnt seem to break the mystical 300 GB/month barrier. You really need to evaluate how many users will go to your websites and what they will download and multiply your averages out. Find out how much bandwith you require per month.



suburovo.com is a reseller of other providers
the owner baiscally buys unmanaged servers from Rackshack, FDCservers and others and manages them. He sells them to you with less bandwith and for more money (but i believe you get some Support with this price)

Your saying http://www.nocster.com/ is good or no good?

Also, what is meant when they say something is unmetered? such as freestylehosting.com?

Originally posted by mjtint
Your saying http://www.nocster.com/ is good or no good?

Also, what is meant when they say something is unmetered? such as freestylehosting.com?


damn i feel useful today :stickout

its not that nocster is good or no good, i mean its no good if you need lots of bandwith. As you can see, they cap you off at 300 GB per month. Once you pass 300 GB served in a month you are either cut off and dismembered or you are charged extra money.



Unmetered means that a provider supposedly does not measure your bandwith and it is not factored into your charges. Once your server blows, thats it. that is your cap. But big deal cause you just need to reboot most of the time.

so how do i know how much the server can hold? do yo think freestylehosting.com would be good to go with or is there anything similar and better?

Also anything similar to nocster or better? can i get lower than 9 if i limit to 300gb?

you still have yet to say what EXACTLY you are going to do with the server and how many visitors/users you will get per month


that is a critical piece of information you need to provide for anyone to make an accurate assesment


if you don't know how many users, just guestimate

Well, I only recommended www.fastservers.net because of their great support towards their customers despite their 300GB bandwidth offer, which IMO isn't that bad.

I understand mjtint is bandwidth hungry, so maybe fastservers.net isn't for him but www.edge-host.com They seem to offer 600GB of bandwidth for just $129/month.

Good luck. :)

Edit: Had to clarify the monthly cost; made a mistake thinking it was $99/mo. My bad!

LMS you lost me.

Originally posted by xelA
Well, I only recommended www.fastservers.net because of their great support towards their customers despite their 300GB bandwidth offer, which IMO isn't that bad.

I understand mjtint is bandwidth hungry, so maybe fastservers.net isn't for him but www.edge-host.com They seem to offer 600GB of bandwidth for just $129/month.

Good luck. :)

Edit: Had to clarify the monthly cost; made a mistake thinking it was $99/mo. My bad!

where did you see that??


http://www.edge-host.com/index.php?page=dedicated

cheapest i see is $129/month

xela i didn't see any plan on edge-host.com for 600gb for 99 bucks, can you give me the url for it?

mjtint,

There are a few things you need to consider. First of all, do you know how to manage and "un-managed" server? In other words, are you some Linux God because you're on your own if you get yourself a dirt cheap dedicated server with over 400+ GB bandwidth. That means upgrading/installing software, troubleshooting, and securing your server is your responsibility. Only companies like Rackshack.net help with hardware problems, not software.

Secondly, do you plan to resell your web space/bandwidth to customers or is it for something else like a game server? Some more details on what you plan on doing with the dedicated server might help others better answer your questions you may have.

Good luck.

Originally posted by mjtint
LMS you lost me.


its simple

Answer these questions mjtint:


1. What kinds of files will be served off your server?

2. What are the sizes of those files?

3. How many people will visit your server and download them?

Originally posted by mjtint
xela i didn't see any plan on edge-host.com for 600gb for 99 bucks, can you give me the url for it?

Please take a look at my original post regarding edge-host.com It was a mistake so I changed it from $99/mo. to $129/mo. I apologize for giving you and others the wrong price.

I dont know anything about linux, so should ig et a managed server from noc and they do it all for me?

I want to resell hosting, lots of bandwith pages. not so much download.

Originally posted by mjtint
I dont know anything about linux, so should ig et a managed server from noc and they do it all for me?

I want to resell hosting, lots of bandwith pages. not so much download.


yes but what i am asking you since you plan to be a "reseller" what if the people you are selling to put file downloads on their websites?

then you are screwed

so who is the best if I want to become a reseller?

you shouldn't attempt to be a reseller unless you know linux

thats just my 2 cents


there are no hosts out there that are geared for "linux newbie resellers"

how about managed servers?

Also about the unmetered thing... how much can a server like this last:
AMD XP 2000
512MB RAM
??

mjtint,

You want to be a reseller under another company and wait for the dedicated server, is that what you're saying? If this is your first time wanting to resell space for a profit, then finding the right web hosting provider with reseller packages is what you want.

There are many companies out there to choose from, and I can't really say who the best is. It also depends what control panel you want to excel at as it will be an important decision in the future when purchasing/leasing a dedicated server.

Use the search feature on this board or go to the Resellers forum, ask any questions you may have (dumb or not), and good luck! :)

Originally posted by mjtint
how about managed servers?

Also about the unmetered thing... how much can a server like this last:
AMD XP 2000
512MB RAM
??

there is no telling how long it would last

most of the time the hosts don't allow you to expend all their resources so they shut you off before it gives weigh

this may mean 400 GB or 600 GB or 1 TeraBYTE

ask each host you see and see what they say about unmetered. They all have different policies

what is the cPanel? What good is it?>

LMS I was referring to fdcservers.net, what do you think about them and their unmetered policy? how much bandwidth do you think i will get from them?

CPanel is a control panel for customers to use. It is one of the most popular control panels used today. I personally use WHM/CPanel and I like it since it's user-friendly and has more features than what was available in Plesk (former plesk user here).

For more info regarding CPanel, go to www.cpanel.net

Originally posted by mjtint
LMS I was referring to fdcservers.net, what do you think about them and their unmetered policy? how much bandwidth do you think i will get from them?


i do not know but they say they gaurantee 600 GB
i think you should email them and ask

ARE THESE GUYS SIMPLY THE BEST IN THE GAME? LOWEST PRICED FOR MOST FUNCITIONALITY?
If you have $100/month to spend and you need more than 50 GB of bandwidth but do not need any technical support and are not doing something mission critical (since support can be slow), RackShack is a great choice. The hardware in general seems good (other than some of the durons which were really bad it seems) the network is great, and uptime has been 100% on my subnet for the last 5 months. Plus they also have public forums and the fellow rackshack customers are very helpful in setting up your server and talking about issues which affect us as customers (hardware, software, upgrades, network, etc.)