tinafay08
09-09-2008, 03:43 PM
Paid for site that never received. If anyone has any info on this site please reply to this posting. Spoke to a few other people that this has happened to also. Any advice would be appreciated.
![]() | View Full Version : sitedesigns4u.com [Did I get what I paid for?] tinafay08 09-09-2008, 03:43 PM Paid for site that never received. If anyone has any info on this site please reply to this posting. Spoke to a few other people that this has happened to also. Any advice would be appreciated. oliviakitty 09-09-2008, 10:19 PM Have you called them, and everything? Sorry you got swindled, they don't look cheap. atomaweapon 09-10-2008, 07:02 PM You can usually tell the swindlers and templaters by their own site, and the fact that they have Website Design Arkanas plastered in every other sentence in their site. I'd be wary of guys like that. Usually if you're looking for affordable freelancers you can check out the site 99designs.com (http://99designs.com)where you can post a project and people work with you on creating designs. Or if you have a decent budget you can find boutique ad agencies in your area. If you're interested send me a pm and I can give you a list of companies I work with doing freelance. allportpc 09-10-2008, 08:10 PM I would use all of their contact information and contact them every way you can. I did a little research... Contact Info 1-877-791-9969 sales@Sitedesigns4u.com There server is located in Washington - Seattle - Hopone Internet Corporation but domain is registered in Funchal, Madeira PT Good luck adminranger 09-10-2008, 08:14 PM Best of luck attempting to recover your funds. Use all the means that you have available to get your money back. They looked a bit sketchy to me also. tinafay08 09-11-2008, 10:58 PM I am very greatful for all the help everyone has wrote in.I do have a question considering I don't know much about computers.I found a site with the company's website but I have no idea what it means.If someone would be kind enough to explain it. The site is zone-h.org/index.php?option=com_attacks&Itemid=43&filter_ip=66.36.253.22 What can happen to a company that is doing this persistently? WebNaz 09-12-2008, 10:29 AM tinafay08 It means from that from 2006/11/11 till 2007/03/20 their site has been hacked at least 2 times most probably because of the CMS (in this case joomla) or weak server security. In this case they (Sitedesigns4u) are the victims, and nothing will happen to them (except of some red faces and loss of credibility), also nothing will happen to the attackers as well. sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 02:40 PM We don't rip anyone off. That is crap. We work hard for our clients and you can't make everyone happy. See we are a small business in NW Arkansas and the reason we plaster Arkansas on our site is when you search for website design arkansas in google we are first sometimes second. Next I know this customer and she has been slandering our name for some time. She is a NY Realtor with a bad attitude and no sense she calls and made threats to us same with her boyfriend and we REFUNDED her so she would go away. Thank god she did! Also I want to thank her. In business not every review is going to be perfect and we have no problem with that. But hey thanks for building my link popularity. In closing I would like to say one thing. If I get a complaint every now and again well apparently I don't have to pull my work from a freelancer sites or a web forum my clients call me. It shows we have clients more than most so thanks to her and this tread I am sure we will get a few calls. sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 03:05 PM Now as far as your backwards comment. Your site looks like a template if you give me a few hours I am sure I could find it on templatemonster.com or something similar. We don't design templates we start with a blank page. You do know what that is right. Also how low to try to bad mouth my company to try to get a customer... thats sad. But if you ever need work give me a call I might have a client right up your ally. I have been in business going on 10 years don't talk bad about someone you don't know it can be a business killer. Shameful. In any event good luck in business and I wish you great success. :agree: You can usually tell the swindlers and templaters by their own site, and the fact that they have Website Design Arkanas plastered in every other sentence in their site. I'd be wary of guys like that. Usually if you're looking for affordable freelancers you can check out the site 99designs.com (http://99designs.com)where you can post a project and people work with you on creating designs. Or if you have a decent budget you can find boutique ad agencies in your area. If you're interested send me a pm and I can give you a list of companies I work with doing freelance. atomaweapon 09-23-2008, 03:39 PM Dude. Not to be snotty, but if you compare our two sites, I'm pretty sure any even-minded person would see whose site looks like a template. I would personally challege you to find any site on the web that looks like mine, much less on "templatemonster". Secondly,your site is full of typical stock images for "web design" and Arkansas is plastered in every single place that could possibly be a keyword for "web design". Which, can be good for search engines, but looks ridiculous for human reading, and can create an unprofessional feel for anyone viewing your site. That's half the reason why I jumped to the conclusion that you ripped the lady off, was how your site came across, being a first time visitor. Your last news update was a full year and a half ago, another not great sign that a company means business. If you haven't got the idea yet, the way your site looks and feels conveys all sorts of things about your business. The feel that I got from your site was "template" and "keyword stuffing" - not good business practices and goes along the whole "take your money and run" feeling that original poster conveyed (which was the feeling I got from a fist time view of your site as well.) the_pm 09-23-2008, 03:51 PM Just to clarify:Paid for site that never received.Is that statement true or untrue? You've expressed your dislike for the client, but the original issue within the thread has not been addressed. tinafay08, could update your discussion to confirm that you did or did not receive a refund? sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 04:00 PM Use PayPal Next Time!Our records indicate that you have a PayPal account. For future purchases, use your PayPal account for a faster and more convenient checkout. Your financial information is securely stored and never shared. Dear Crystal Hantak, This email confirms that you have paid sales@sitedesigns4u.com $475.00 USD using PayPal. It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent Activity list on your Account Overview. This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL *MARIESTAPLE". Payment Details Item Price:http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif$475.00 USDTotal:http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif$475.00 USDBuyer:http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gifCrystal Hantak Business Information Business:http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gifsales@sitedesigns4u.comContact E-Mail:http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gifmariestapleton@gmail.com Receipt Number: 2179-6585-9514-8731 Keep your Receipt Number (shown above) for future reference. You will need to refer to this number if you need customer service from sales@sitedesigns4u.com or from PayPal. If you have questions about your purchase, such as shipping and tracking, we encourage you to contact the seller, sales@sitedesigns4u.com at mariestapleton@gmail.com. If you have been unable to resolve your questions with the merchant, PayPal offers a free buyer complaint resolution service that offers a quick, easy resolution to your concerns. It covers physical goods purchases made through PayPal, and is offered at no charge when you register for a free PayPal account. To sign up for an account, click on the 'Save My Information' link above. Thank you for using PayPal! The PayPal Team Please do not reply to this email. Email sent to this address cannot be answered. PayPal Email ID PP344 Just to clarify:Is that statement true or untrue? You've expressed your dislike for the client, but the original issue within the thread has not been addressed. tinafay08, could update your discussion to confirm that you did or did not receive a refund? sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 04:11 PM First I quoted the wrong guy about the site. Yours looks like a site from the 90's and its a .cc... Couldn't afford the real deal or what. But anyway everything I do is custom and yes I used some stock images shame on me they I am not a 14 year old with an fetish for anima sorry. And looking at our 2 sites side by side, I would have to say your site looks like a kid put it together. No format. No keyword density and your meta data is all wrong. Also when you go to pages its says "play" what??? 7 years doing sites and you couldn't take a month to build something worth a hoot. The reason people like you don't get complaints is because you have no customers. You want to talk give me a call. My cell: 479-244-6415 we will compare Last years taxes and then you can apologize. Im not here to fight with you and Slander can cost you remember that. Dude. Not to be snotty, but if you compare our two sites, I'm pretty sure any even-minded person would see whose site looks like a template. I would personally challege you to find any site on the web that looks like mine, much less on "templatemonster". Secondly,your site is full of typical stock images for "web design" and Arkansas is plastered in every single place that could possibly be a keyword for "web design". Which, can be good for search engines, but looks ridiculous for human reading, and can create an unprofessional feel for anyone viewing your site. That's half the reason why I jumped to the conclusion that you ripped the lady off, was how your site came across, being a first time visitor. Your last news update was a full year and a half ago, another not great sign that a company means business. If you haven't got the idea yet, the way your site looks and feels conveys all sorts of things about your business. The feel that I got from your site was "template" and "keyword stuffing" - not good business practices and goes along the whole "take your money and run" feeling that original poster conveyed (which was the feeling I got from a fist time view of your site as well.) sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 04:15 PM The customer also filed a BBB complaint and it was ruled in our favor. She was under contract 4-6 weeks for delivery and bailed on week 4. I did not have to resolve the issue but 475 dollars just wasn't worth the headache so I did the best thing I could have done paid 475 dollar to never have to deal with someone like that again, go me! Now do we have the site done. Yes we do. wanna buy it I cut you a deal 400 dollars LOL! Just to clarify:Is that statement true or untrue? You've expressed your dislike for the client, but the original issue within the thread has not been addressed. tinafay08, could update your discussion to confirm that you did or did not receive a refund? dotRoot 09-23-2008, 04:57 PM First I quoted the wrong guy about the site. Yours looks like a site from the 90's and its a .cc... Couldn't afford the real deal or what. But anyway everything I do is custom and yes I used some stock images shame on me they I am not a 14 year old with an fetish for anima sorry. And looking at our 2 sites side by side, I would have to say your site looks like a kid put it together. No format. No keyword density and your meta data is all wrong. Also when you go to pages its says "play" what??? 7 years doing sites and you couldn't take a month to build something worth a hoot. The reason people like you don't get complaints is because you have no customers. You want to talk give me a call. My cell: 479-244-6415 we will compare Last years taxes and then you can apologize. Im not here to fight with you and Slander can cost you remember that. You have a horrible business mind to be responding here like you are. I'd hate to be your client, that's for sure. Also, Meta Data is old business. It essentially doesn't mean anything to most search engines anymore. sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 05:07 PM WHY NOT! She slanders my company thats on her. She started this fight not me. You coursed the fight and I brought it. Meta data is important otherwise well lets see. I can't find you in the search engines go to another storesonline convention maybe you need that kind of advice. Also can you think that real seo experts are going to give you the secrets in some forum??? Your out of your mind you ebook reading forum junk isn't fact. Ask any real SEO consultant and they throw you a bone. But thats just the hook to get you on the line to sell you the whole deal. You have a horrible business mind to be responding here like you are. I'd hate to be your client, that's for sure. Also, Meta Data is old business. It essentially doesn't mean anything to most search engines anymore. atomaweapon 09-23-2008, 05:33 PM Haha - touche' on the .cc - they didn't have my name in .com so I settled for .cc. Yes, my code for my personal site is a big on the jumbled side, I coded it close to 5 years ago so it's a bit messy. I spend more time doing paid projects than I have free time to update my site. As far as looks go though, I go after a different clientel than you. I don't do 500 dollar template jobs, I choose work where I have a high amount of creative leeway with the client. I also work for an ad agency, where we do serious flex, flash and joomla programming. My site is simple, conveys who I am as a freelancer/designer, and shows my work in a clear, effective manner. It's not keyword stuffed because It doesn't need to be. As far as creativity between our sites, and the message it conveys, we are worlds apart. As far as keywords go, again, your site is stuffed with ARKANSAS WEB DESIGN. Do a google keyword search and see how many people are truly searching for WEB DESIGN IN ARKANSAS and you'll find the searches to be very low. So you're coming across in your human-reading content as unprofessional trying to hit a niche that is almost non-existant. Sure you might get a client or two looking for a 400 dollar site on the cheap, but at a cost of looking ridiculous to people trying to read and navigate your site. That's the first opinion I had going to your site and why I immediately sided with the lady. Looks convey a lot. Actually, the reason I don't get complaints is because I do good work, and go above and beyond to solve problems for people. Compare your portfolio to mine, and if someone had a choice between having their site look like a frontpage template, or having a custom made, unique design, with flash I would guarantee they'd choose me everytime. Some work to peruse: http://www.cardindustriesinc.com/ http://www.segwayfunding.com/ http://theguzzlers.com/ http://www.utahjusticelaw.com/ http://www.rfnanocancer.com/ http://www.furiafightwear.com http://www.advanceddermatologymd.com/ http://www.majorlawutah.com/ http://www.sarcoimpactglove.com/ http://www.skarlite.com/ It's good though you came in here to clear your name though. sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 05:44 PM Now brass tacks. I take 15 new customers a week and far from 500 dollars. This was a real estate agent that asked for my help so I was trying to be the nice guy. I am happy you can play with flash a little bit and make some html sites. But I develop fully custom php applications that covert my clients visitors to sales. Saying Arkansas is an untapped market is extremely dumb considering the NW of the state has nothing but million dollar homes, the wal-mart headquaters, tysons headquaters. Which I have to say have been clients of mine. Along with: Allstate Darden Irvs.com Mega fitiness Nascar Red Lobster Olive Garden Smoking Bones Coldwell Banker Century 21 Behr Schwans food company Real Log Homes JayZ productions Anheuser-Busch To name a few. Don't judge me or my company you have no right and if it continues we will take action against anyone that entertains the idea. Godspeed! Tehxdx 09-23-2008, 05:46 PM This goes from some one complaining that sitedesigns4u.com ripped her off to two company's battling. I find this quite interesting actually, I enjoyed reading sitedesigns4u because they just show how well he reacts to bad comments and how he conducts business on a professional level. Even if a customer is being problematic, it doesn't mean go off and start leaving rude replys, if anything you should of left a message that shows you are actually professional and care about client opinions. And if comparing your site to atomaweapon, I would pick his. His site to me shows creativity which is what a lot of people are looking for in designers. Not something dull looking.. *And no, I am not judging your work sitedesigns4u. You asked to compare both sites, so I did. Just my 2c.. gamernz 09-23-2008, 05:47 PM Haha - touche' on the .cc - they didn't have my name in .com so I settled for .cc. Yes, my code for my personal site is a big on the jumbled side, I coded it close to 5 years ago so it's a bit messy. I spend more time doing paid projects than I have free time to update my site. As far as looks go though, I go after a different clientel than you. I don't do 500 dollar template jobs, I choose work where I have a high amount of creative leeway with the client. I also work for an ad agency, where we do serious flex, flash and joomla programming. My site is simple, conveys who I am as a freelancer/designer, and shows my work in a clear, effective manner. It's not keyword stuffed because It doesn't need to be. As far as creativity between our sites, and the message it conveys, we are worlds apart. As far as keywords go, again, your site is stuffed with ARKANSAS WEB DESIGN. Do a google keyword search and see how many people are truly searching for WEB DESIGN IN ARKANSAS and you'll find the searches to be very low. So you're coming across in your human-reading content as unprofessional trying to hit a niche that is almost non-existant. Sure you might get a client or two looking for a 400 dollar site on the cheap, but at a cost of looking ridiculous to people trying to read and navigate your site. That's the first opinion I had going to your site and why I immediately sided with the lady. Looks convey a lot. Actually, the reason I don't get complaints is because I do good work, and go above and beyond to solve problems for people. Compare your portfolio to mine, and if someone had a choice between having their site look like a frontpage template, or having a custom made, unique design, with flash I would guarantee they'd choose me everytime. Some work to peruse: http://www.cardindustriesinc.com/ http://www.segwayfunding.com/ http://theguzzlers.com/ http://www.utahjusticelaw.com/ http://www.rfnanocancer.com/ http://www.furiafightwear.com http://www.advanceddermatologymd.com/ http://www.majorlawutah.com/ http://www.sarcoimpactglove.com/ http://www.skarlite.com/ It's good though you came in here to clear your name though. Well said there! Comparing personal sites, yours is much lighter and doesn't have that whole feel that everything is jam packed into the page. I also don't find Site Designs navigation to be easy to follow, and the keyword stuffing is a bit desperate. When looking at portfolios Site Design may have some good ideas conveyed, but again the pages are jam packed and just look a little heavy. Oh well, it just seems this topic has turned from someone making a complaint to SiteDesign4u leaving all these cocky replies. DephNet[Paul] 09-23-2008, 05:57 PM Im not here to fight with you and Slander can cost you remember that.sitedesigns4u, To be honest, speaking as an outsider, you need to take a moment to consider what you are writing on WHT. Again as an outsider after seeing your attitude with everyone on here I for one would not want to work with your company. I had a quick look at your site, 3 times I tired to view it and all 3 times it crashed my browser. It is quite ironic that a website "designer" uses a template, as that is exactly what it is. Why don't you use your skills and create a website that 1) does not crash browsers and 2) loads without the stupid "loading" screens, they are so 1999. What is so wrong about using stock images? I use istockphoto.com for most of my images. Yes they may be on several other sites but who cares? It is what you do with them that counts, not what they are. Paul sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 06:02 PM Side or no side it doesn't matter. We have tons of customers that are fine with us but when one slanders us piss on them. Its not a question of professionalism or anything. She lied flat out didn't know what to do because she did not pay her bill and thought giving us a bad name would remeady the issue. We have a right to protect ourselves and when people say that I violated her privacy I didn't she posted here first and one of my happy clients called and told me all about it. He will be making a rebuttal post sometime soon. But again I appreciate everyones views and everyone has a right to their opinion but when you cross the line from opinion to sheer disrespect you should expect the same in return. I am nice to everyone even people I don't like ask the customer in this issue. I never once was rude I refunded her after her cursing yell screaming ect... But never once did I say a foul word. Now on here I am going to be judged by designers that have nothing better to do that sit on this forum and brag about what design they did and how great it is and how much money they make. BS I will compare mine with anyone and there are going to be people that blow me away but the majority will see that we run a professional, creative team and develop what our clients our looking for. My site is bland sure it is. Bight colors don't bring you ceo's they get you the shoulda, coulda, woulda's. I have had 5 different designs in the 10 years I have been in business and not just under this name and I have to say. This works the best. ohh and thanks to the fella that let me know our year was wrong on te press release dates that was a mistake on my part and I will make sure it gets fixed immediately. Finally I take no ones crap, neither should anyone, we are in a market that most dont understand and I like to give just a little back to support my family so people can have a website that not only looks good but makes them money. Some of you guys might not be template designers, but some of you are, and the others well they just build websites that look like templates. Frontpage???? come on now you a dreamweaver man/female whatever. I can develop an entire site in notepad. How many of you can do that. This goes from some one complaining that sitedesigns4u.com ripped her off to two company's battling. I find this quite interesting actually, I enjoyed reading sitedesigns4u because they just show how well he reacts to bad comments and how he conducts business on a professional level. Even if a customer is being problematic, it doesn't mean go off and start leaving rude replys, if anything you should of left a message that shows you are actually professional and care about client opinions. And if comparing your site to atomaweapon, I would pick his. His site to me shows creativity which is what a lot of people are looking for in designers. Not something dull looking.. *And no, I am not judging your work sitedesigns4u. You asked to compare both sites, so I did. Just my 2c.. sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 06:10 PM No they attacked i defended myself. Secondly if my site crashes your PC buy a new one. I have never had that complaint before. I agree there is nothing wrong with stock photos I didn't say that was a problem I think that was one of the others running their mouth not me. I never even visit this site. Its not like its a bad site. I just dont do forums ya know its just not me. As you can see I have been a member since 2005-6 something like that and until today had 8 post. What I see here is a group of guys that are buddys on the forums and opinions are repeated in the same way with their own little twist. I love competition and my customers know when they come to me the job gets done. Maybe not in 3 days but it gets done. another thing. My website is not a template if you would like I can release all the files to the site and show you ever inch of that site is custom except for the billing system one of my buddy's owns NEW EDGE. But no hard feelings you have a right to your opinion as well but you have done me no wrong I rather appreciate your view other than the template statement which is not true at all. Godbless! ;5326575']sitedesigns4u, To be honest, speaking as an outsider, you need to take a moment to consider what you are writing on WHT. Again as an outsider after seeing your attitude with everyone on here I for one would not want to work with your company. I had a quick look at your site, 3 times I tired to view it and all 3 times it crashed my browser. It is quite ironic that a website "designer" uses a template, as that is exactly what it is. Why don't you use your skills and create a website that 1) does not crash browsers and 2) loads without the stupid "loading" screens, they are so 1999. What is so wrong about using stock images? I use istockphoto.com for most of my images. Yes they may be on several other sites but who cares? It is what you do with them that counts, not what they are. Paul atomaweapon 09-23-2008, 06:22 PM Kev - The coldwell banker site and the allstate site, are not for the big companies themselves, but for agents of both companies. You can hardly put Allstate and Coldwell Banker on your resume if you did a site who resells those services. That's not the same thing. As for the other "big names", I see no work whatsoever that entailed doing creative for any of those companies. Your "featured clients" list of logos doesn't link to any sort of work you've done, another fishy aspect of your site. I'm not disparaging you because you're in here defending yourself, I'm saying all the aspects of your site: keyword stuffing, cramming the site with non-related info, no custom created images - all stock, false "featured clients", a funky "loading" screen, template-ish - all orginally conveyed to me and to the average person of "fly-by-night". Those aspects of your site do not convey a sense of trust in a user, a deadly thing in the world of web design and 3 second user attention spans. I also feel if you were the SEO guru you claim to be, you'd know how well webhostingtalk ranks and realize this entire thread comes up 3rd in a search for you. SITEDESIGNSRIPPED ME OFF!!!!! in big bold letters probably isn't going to bode well for your business, and might affect that huge 15+ sites you do a week. You might have to lay off that army of designers you obviously have working for you after all this. DephNet[Paul] 09-23-2008, 06:23 PM Secondly if my site crashes your PC buy a new one. I have never had that complaint before.Are you being serious? This is a $1600 laptop, and it can handle everyonter site out there except yours. I am not going to go and buy a new laptop, this one is 4 months old, just for your site. Oh and FYI it did not crash the entire laptop, it crashed the browser. another thing. My website is not a template if you would like I can release all the files to the site and show you ever inch of that site is custom except for the billing system one of my buddy's owns NEW EDGE.Could I have a look at the files please? Paul sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 06:24 PM I want to personally thank everyone for the post they made! I had fun and when you are a customer that pays your bill you never have to worry about my professionalism its just who I am. "People in glass houses should never throw stones!" Tehxdx 09-23-2008, 06:25 PM Side or no side it doesn't matter. We have tons of customers that are fine with us but when one slanders us piss on them. Its not a question of professionalism or anything. She lied flat out didn't know what to do because she did not pay her bill and thought giving us a bad name would remeady the issue. We have a right to protect ourselves and when people say that I violated her privacy I didn't she posted here first and one of my happy clients called and told me all about it. He will be making a rebuttal post sometime soon. But again I appreciate everyones views and everyone has a right to their opinion but when you cross the line from opinion to sheer disrespect you should expect the same in return. I am nice to everyone even people I don't like ask the customer in this issue. I never once was rude I refunded her after her cursing yell screaming ect... But never once did I say a foul word. Now on here I am going to be judged by designers that have nothing better to do that sit on this forum and brag about what design they did and how great it is and how much money they make. BS I will compare mine with anyone and there are going to be people that blow me away but the majority will see that we run a professional, creative team and develop what our clients our looking for. My site is bland sure it is. Bight colors don't bring you ceo's they get you the shoulda, coulda, woulda's. I have had 5 different designs in the 10 years I have been in business and not just under this name and I have to say. This works the best. ohh and thanks to the fella that let me know our year was wrong on te press release dates that was a mistake on my part and I will make sure it gets fixed immediately. Finally I take no ones crap, neither should anyone, we are in a market that most dont understand and I like to give just a little back to support my family so people can have a website that not only looks good but makes them money. Some of you guys might not be template designers, but some of you are, and the others well they just build websites that look like templates. Frontpage???? come on now you a dreamweaver man/female whatever. I can develop an entire site in notepad. How many of you can do that. I don't remember questioning your coding ethics nor saying your code was bad in any way. I just stated that I thought your site wasn't as good as atomaweapon and some of the work he has done. As for you saying you can code in notepad... Please tell me that your joking? Just because you can code using notepad doesn't mean any of us here is going to get down on our hands and knees praise you. Infact I started off using notepad when I was learning to code, but that doesn't make me special does it? And I do think its funny that you keep naming off known company's like most of us here will actually care that you worked for them. And honestly I don't care if your buddy does own New Edge, but hey I own a car so that makes me special to. sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 06:30 PM Dont get 15 sites a week done never said that read before you talk. Now as far as linking to the development work we do for these larger companies I am bound by the NDA to only say we worked for them not what we worked on. Now a designer would know this. As far as allstate never did an agent site I did the backend medical billing software that allows for doctors nationwide to see set payments on accident claims so they don't send their patiences to collections. You seem like a nice guy with a lot to say. I have work to do apparently you don't but you can call me anytime toll free: 1-877-791-9969 and we can chat then maybe just maybe you will understand I am not the bad guy. I was attacked and needed to defend myself. The statements made against my company where false and an attempt to cause financial loss to my business. Luckly I have enough clients that like me I don't have to worry about that. I wish the best and look forward to phone call! Kev - The coldwell banker site and the allstate site, are not for the big companies themselves, but for agents of both companies. You can hardly put Allstate and Coldwell Banker on your resume if you did a site who resells those services. That's not the same thing. As for the other "big names", I see no work whatsoever that entailed doing creative for any of those companies. Your "featured clients" list of logos doesn't link to any sort of work you've done, another fishy aspect of your site. I'm not disparaging you because you're in here defending yourself, I'm saying all the aspects of your site: keyword stuffing, cramming the site with non-related info, no custom created images - all stock, false "featured clients", a funky "loading" screen, template-ish - all orginally conveyed to me and to the average person of "fly-by-night". Those aspects of your site do not convey a sense of trust in a user, a deadly thing in the world of web design and 3 second user attention spans. I also feel if you were the SEO guru you claim to be, you'd know how well webhostingtalk ranks and realize this entire thread comes up 3rd in a search for you. SITEDESIGNSRIPPED ME OFF!!!!! in big bold letters probably isn't going to bode well for your business, and might affect that huge 15+ sites you do a week. You might have to lay off that army of designers you obviously have working for you after all this. Tehxdx 09-23-2008, 06:34 PM The statements made against my company where false and an attempt to cause financial loss to my business. Don't worry, no one here other then you have that covered. sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 06:37 PM I think you misunderstood so let me rephrase 1st I named companies because the guy posted his work so I said look I don't care I work for big companies all the time was the point. I am not here to test who has a bigger set of balls. Some girl lied about me and I wanted my piece to be heard. 2nd The notepad was in response to your comment that I design templates that BS and you know it. 3rd I am happy you have a car. I hope its a hybrid so at least you are saving something. 4th NewEdge nothing more than I was not going to take credit for something I did not do. Thats all. As I offered the last guy call me and we can talk anytime: 1-877-791-9969 I look forward to hearing from you maybe we can talk about that car you have. I don't remember questioning your coding ethics nor saying your code was bad in any way. I just stated that I thought your site wasn't as good as atomaweapon and some of the work he has done. As for you saying you can code in notepad... Please tell me that your joking? Just because you can code using notepad doesn't mean any of us here is going to get down on our hands and knees praise you. Infact I started off using notepad when I was learning to code, but that doesn't make me special does it? And I do think its funny that you keep naming off known company's like most of us here will actually care that you worked for them. And honestly I don't care if your buddy does own New Edge, but hey I own a car so that makes me special to. sitedesigns4u 09-23-2008, 06:40 PM what? have you all looked at yourselves? please the reason you are attacking me is because i wanted to let people know the customer was wrong. This is not McDonalds or should I say your daytime job. The customer is not always right. Don't worry, no one here other then you have that covered. Tehxdx 09-23-2008, 06:52 PM what? have you all looked at yourselves? please the reason you are attacking me is because i wanted to let people know the customer was wrong. This is not McDonalds or should I say your daytime job. The customer is not always right. That's funny, because I never once said you design templates. So please, like you said, read before you post. And apparently you say I work for McDonalds? That's a joke because even if I did I would still earn more then you. And no, there no reason to say "Call me and lets talk" because I don't feel like talking to some one self centered like you. Anyways, I am off to work, my Shift at McDonalds starts in 10 minutes. Brian-de-vie 09-23-2008, 08:36 PM I can develop an entire site in notepad. How many of you can do that.Well I would gues most kids under 14 & most 'grown ups' over 40. With hindsight, and to be honest, your first[& only] post might have been better recieved, had you said something like: This lady has had a full refund, and it is innopropriate for us or her to comment further on a public forum. the_pm 09-24-2008, 10:47 AM The customer also filed a BBB complaint and it was ruled in our favor. She was under contract 4-6 weeks for delivery and bailed on week 4. I did not have to resolve the issue but 475 dollars just wasn't worth the headache so I did the best thing I could have done paid 475 dollar to never have to deal with someone like that again, go me! Now do we have the site done. Yes we do. wanna buy it I cut you a deal 400 dollars LOL!Thank you for your clarifications and for providing your refund statement. the_pm 09-24-2008, 10:50 AM I see no reason why this thread should remain open, and plenty of reasons why it shouldn't. </thread> |