Due to the recent feedback we've been getting from the many web designers and programmers we host, we have put together a very special offer:

Web Designer's Dedicated Server
Celeron 1.0ghz
256mb SDRAM
30gb HDD
100mbit NIC
2500mb bandwidth
Your choice of Linux/FreeBSD/Win2K Server
£39/month (all inclusive)
(Cheaper than many reseller packages!)

A perfect machine for those who need the flexibility of their own server but don't need to run thousands of websites.


UPDATE

Offer's over now guys, if you're looking for something similar give us a shout.

WAIT!!!
You are giving 30 Gigs of space and only 2.5 Gigs of transfer?!?!?

Am I missing something or you misstyped something??

UK Hosting, not US Hosting. Here in the UK we don't have your cheap 300GB hosts. :)

And anyway, as he said "A perfect machine for those who need the flexibility of their own server but don't need to run thousands of websites."

Jo

I don't see any difference being in US or in UK, <<removed: Ignorant insults>>

Here is what I don't understand...... let's say I have 3 gigs of files on my server and every file is 1k, now every files is being downloaded only once by someone, I will run out of bandwith already, why would someone offer 12.5 more space than the bandwith they offer?

If there is a part I'm not understanding, please take a minute to explain, <<removed>>

I don't see any difference being in US or in UK, <<removed>>

If there is a part I'm not understanding, please take a minute to explain, <<removed>>

Firstly, do not like the tone of your arguement. There is no need to insult anyone here by saying either party is ignorant, or pulling regional crap. I was simply stating that in the UK, bandwidth is expensive, we don't have suppliers that can offer anything near 300GB etc. for a reasonable price. In response to your idea, I see where you're coming from. Howver remember that not every KB of that hard drive will be used for downloading. You have an OS to install, a control panel and many other things which are going to take up space but never be downloaded thus never use the bandwidth. Therefore this offer is perfectly reasonable IMO and is not all too unusual...

Jo

Hello Jo.

I am willing to delete my post if it did sound offensive to you, I guess it's just in my blood to talk in this tone...... no one is ever happy with the way I talk.

<<MOD NOTE: I removed it for you as we don't tolerate such rudeness here. Maybe it is because you talk as if you were a 12 year old drunken sailor? Pathetic.>>



I totally understand that UK's providers are not as advance (or maybe not too many to compare, like here in US, we have been there about 10 years ago or so.) but I didn't get the point of providing that much space, I do understand that setting up OS, plugins, other crap might take some good amount of space..... simple example is my own PC, which has XP Pro running and I think every stupid software that comes out (on my system drive) and it still hasn't searched 6 gigs, I know Linux or FreeBSD do not take that much space....... what in the world would I do with the rest of the space...... he could have offer 10 gigs with 5 or 6 gigs of transfer, it would have make a lot of sense, not if the space is 12X bigger than the bandwidth....
Maybe my post will make him think about his plans again.

Now about what made you hate my tone, I just simply did not someone understand why would say "Hey, I live in ________ and we drink 1 Litter water in a 20 Gallon jug, so start drinking!" eventho as I have seen, most people in these forums are looking for more bandwidth than anything else (or so I have noticed).... These forums are international, should we all be offering something that could interest every one of us?

Mesum, no offence intended, but personally I think the offer is legitimate - think business and target market :)

Mesum - I think you'll find the majority of hosting providers don't give you the same amount of bandwidth and disk space! In fact, it is fairly usual for dedicated servers in the UK to have less bandwidth than disk space. The package above is quality UK bandwidth and UK hosting, we can easily offer huge amounts of bandwidth from our USA servers cheaply, but the package is aimed at webmasters and programmers in the UK, and feedback has shown this is what they're looking for.

Thanks

These forums are international, should we all be offering something that could interest every one of us?

Point is, in the UK we can't. If we could offer 300GB transfer then I'm sure we'd love it, but if you want UK hosting then, my friend, we have little choice. :(

In addition I'm sure you'd be able to upgrade the bandwidth at a later stage should you start to fill that harddrive. Its a hell of a lot easier to order more bandwidth then start out with a 10GB harddrive and have to replace it or add a new one when the time comes...

in addition I don't think this is a question of our providers not being as advanced, we just haven't got the likes of CogentCo over here, yet. I guess this depends on what you call advanced though.

Originally posted by Mesum

I totally understand that UK's providers are not as advance (or maybe not too many to compare, like here in US, we have been there about 10 years ago or so.)

We're all still using 386s in the UK for hosting obviously ;)

It's tricky and more expensive to get hold of lower capacity hard disks than in our offer - but if you want us to we can provide the same machine with an old 850mb disk for £45/month! Then you'll have more bandwidth than disk space :D

How mush for additional bandwidth and overage charges?

Additional bandwidth is between £3 and £5 per GB depending on quantity.

this is a very legitimate offer, and is along the lines of what id expect from the uk market. uk bandwidth is more expensive then us, and theres a stong market in low bandwidth servers for people that want to run specalist apps on their own server for say a company extranet or similar. plus just because it comes with 2.5 GB of bandwidth doesnt mean thats all you can use, im sure you can get more.
i suggest a certain individual stops slamming situations he doesnt understand because he hasnt spent the time to analyse the market its being offered from.

Originally posted by richy
this is a very legitimate offer, and is along the lines of what id expect from the uk market. uk bandwidth is more expensive then us, and theres a stong market in low bandwidth servers for people that want to run specalist apps on their own server for say a company extranet or similar. plus just because it comes with 2.5 GB of bandwidth doesnt mean thats all you can use, im sure you can get more.
i suggest a certain individual stops slamming situations he doesnt understand because he hasnt spent the time to analyse the market its being offered from.

I agree with you :beer:

can you give us more information about the network as your domain trace to vibus.

We have rackspace located in Vibus' data centre. The current connection is an NTL 10mbit line, although there is a new line coming in the next few weeks from another provider (not sure if I'm allowed to say who it is) which will be in addition to the NTL line, providing higher throughput and redundancy.

Mesum = Philistine :D

Pretty hilarious reading your posts here. This is a webdesigners server which means if a webdesigner uses it only he and the clients will view the pages on the server, which won't come close to 2.5GB of transfer.

A 30Gig drive is probably the best price/size drive you can get now..

With the price of HD now there is very little difference in the price of a 20gig to a 30gig and so on..

Try getting a new 10gb or less drive and it will still cost almost as much as a 20/30gig assuming they even make them anymore.

Thanks

they dont really, people like excelstore do, but i wouldnt let em near my server. to be honest i thought 30 gb a little odd, the price point these days in bulk is a 40 GB 20 GB platter model, 7200 is only about 3 quid extra. but i certainly wouldnt argue for lower.
there is a world outside the united states and whadya know, its a bit different:)

Originally posted by edb49
Due to the recent feedback we've been getting from the many web designers and programmers we host, we have put together a very special offer:

Web Designer's Dedicated Server
Celeron 1.0ghz
256mb SDRAM
30gb HDD
100mbit NIC
2500mb bandwidth
Your choice of Linux/FreeBSD/Win2K Server
£39/month (all inclusive)
(Cheaper than many reseller packages!)

A perfect machine for those who need the flexibility of their own server but don't need to run thousands of websites.

Excellent offer. What payment methods do you accept..? ;)

Credit/debit card, cheque, BACS

Originally posted by Furton
Mesum = Philistine :D

Pretty hilarious reading your posts here. This is a webdesigners server which means if a webdesigner uses it only he and the clients will view the pages on the server, which won't come close to 2.5GB of transfer.


:eek: :angry: :kaioken: :argue:


And when I say something, people get pissed off......

By the way, on the main quote, it stats, this server is not someone who wants to thousends of website on server....... how about 6 websites with 500mbs of transfer? :mad:

umm you mean 5 sites with 500 mb transfer :)

mesum = stop talking youre making us americans look rediculous!

dont know UK prices, but I'm sure if my buddy Richy says its a good deal, it probably is.

Uk prices are quite expensive so you wont find anyone offering 300 gig :stickout

"I don't see any difference being in US or in UK"

shows how much you know.

Newbies :angry: heh :stickout

lolim in a generous mood ill explain:)
so in words of less then one letter for the challeneged among us.

bandwidth in the uk is expensive, not due to low technology, but due to low competition and low requirements. you can pickup 100mbps of real low quality feed in telehouse for 15k GBP a month. in the us, about 2k GBP. the quality of the networks are great, telehouse and redbus are as good as any US DC to be honest. so bandwidth is more expensive, as isgeneral server overheads. telehouse is more expensive per u \ per sq ft then a comparable US DC.
ok now why offer this server. i create websites, some reasonably complex ones. i have access via broadband and dialup. working via ssh on a us server pings 350\140 on average for dialup\broadband. in the uk its 150\20 or there abouts. its a damn sight easier working on a uk server. it appeals greatly, as does it for db work. this is a great oppertunity for developers and admins to have a very cheap uk server, overages are also very good, id have expected to see 5 pounds per gb in reality. it means for very little outlay we can have a test box, so it only comes with 2.5 gb of bw. yup thats more then i need for that sort of box and its cheap to get more. you can get 300 gb a month of uk bandwidth, it will just cost an obscene amount :)
this server is aimed at a very under served market :)
if i may make a suggestion, for those admins among us who may wish to upgrade the server, will you provide a service so that we can send a cd to you and you enable us to read it without it counting as bandwidth? dont want to waste bandwidth on huge downloads for playing with the server? just an idea.

<<Removed: Rudeness will not be toleratedl. You may have had a point in here, but I'm not about to sift through the dribble of your post to find it.>>

Theres no chance in hell im admiting im wrong....because fankly none of us were wrong, you just proved to all of us this fact. YOU ARE A *****...granted you made a valliant effort to defend yourself. But you still lack the "english gramar" to form the toughts in your head. Honestly I would quote your rediculous non-sensical english, but it would take a whole page. Next time refrain from saying something stupid and if you still persist, at least learn proper english.

'nuff said...I hope everyone who read his post got as much laughs as I did...at least we can get some entertainment out of this fellow!

"I don't see any difference being in US or in UK"

So you did some research?

lol or even some math lessons

Wow that's a great offer!

1. When you say any OS including Win2k do you include the server licence? (I suppose not at that price)?

2. Control Panel options?

3. For those of you knocking the offer and putting down the UK i'll bring in some controversial stereotypes...

i) we don't all go round shooting up our neighbours/friends/wives
ii) we don't all spend 24*7 on our arses (or asses for the US readers i think) eating nachos, corn dogs, foot longs or whatever.
iii) I fail to see many comparably priced US servers with that low bandwidth? Please point me to some?

UK bandwidth (especially from Telehouse/Redbus etc) is very high quality. I'd have a guess we have what I would think is three main networks maintained by NTL, BT and Telewest perhaps. It's not as if we have 100's of companies who can role out cables everywhere from what I understand.


British - born, and proud.

I'll now remove my pompus head from my arse and say tally-ho to queenie whilst I have afternoon tea.

.... don't let me start on the use of ENGLISH and changing all the spellings of our language :)

I love you all :)

Just wanted to add controversy and defend our country. Just wish blair would stop sucking up to bush :(

1. When you say any OS including Win2k do you include the server licence? (I suppose not at that price)?

We can get a Windows 2K license for you, normally in the £300-400 range. (Normal price is around £600.)

2. Control Panel options?

This is entirely up to you - we recommend Ensim or Plesk for Linux, and Hosting Controller for Windows.

Originally posted by richy
if i may make a suggestion, for those admins among us who may wish to upgrade the server, will you provide a service so that we can send a cd to you and you enable us to read it without it counting as bandwidth? dont want to waste bandwidth on huge downloads for playing with the server? just an idea.

We could do this, yes - but would have to make a one-off charge of say £10 for each CD, as obviously we can't maintain getting 100 CDs in the post each day!

Mesum, i apologise for my reaction, but you have to understand that ed's made a great offer, and your question was phrased in a less then polite manner. Its very unfuriating when someone attacks a legitimate offer because they dont understand it, if one person lets your comment tip them away from buying a server thats one less lot of money going to ed, all because you didnt say, "hey sorry but whys the amount of bandwidth seem so low in comparrison to US servers?". Thats why you got the response you got.
When i started coming here, when i saw something i didnt understand, like say the first time i saw a cogent server being offered with a seemingly ridiculous amount of bandwidth for the price, rather then say, hang on mate your having us on, this is a con, i clicked on search and typed in cogent, and found out why cogent bandwidth is cheap, just as UK bandwidth is more expensive. I did take the time to explain as did others, and such explanations would have come sooner and in a more polite tone. You have to respect that this deal is this guys livelihood, and fellow businessmen are going to defend a legitimate offer as we respect how important image is.
once again sorry for not taking a deep breath earlier on and explaining sooner.

Originally posted by edb49


We could do this, yes - but would have to make a one-off charge of say £10 for each CD, as obviously we can't maintain getting 100 CDs in the post each day!

It would be cheaper to upload the data!

:) Owen

Originally posted by Mesum
I don't see any difference being in US or in UK, I guess brits are just ignorant enough to bring something like that in a convo where nothing like that blongs.


uhh, first of all. The uk doesn't sell cheap "crappy" bandwidth like the us, hence the high bandwidth prices - go research then come back with some solid facts.

Aye,

Fed up of people thinking that all the brits are pompous, ignorant old men. geez.

I'm sure not all americans eat 15 bigmacs a day ;)

If you did read the main post by the starter of this topic, he did mention that this server is not for someone with thousand of websites to host..... but it's a normal thing for a web designer to host 5 or 6 sites on his server, why would a web designer need a server if all he needs to do is have his or her site only?
I hope you don't do web designing, and if you do, your posts shows that you suck, both at marketing and web designer, I can just pray for you to God that you do not quit your day job, or you will die with hunger sometime this month.

Because he would need to show his clients the sites before he sold them, duh! Actually I run the Total Gamer Network (www.tgnetwk.com) with over 3million impressions a month generating hundreds of pounds a month, guess I won't die anytime soon:D (Did I even say I did webdesign?)


Very interesting point you made, reminded me of mine when I was about 15 years old and was addicted of an Arcade game Street Fighter, every time when someone (who was way much older than me) tried to "battle" me and I won, I called him a newbie and don't remember what else.......... but then I start growing up and realized that not everyone has as much time as me for things I do, maybe that person is very good at Math, maybe when he goes home, he doesn't cries about how I beat him in the game, instead, he laughs and turns on his 62" ,watches a DVD and then goes to sleep for the next morning when there is a whole team of co-workers waiting for him...
I hope you learn same kind of things when you grow up and when your parents tell you that you are now old enough to live on your own and this is your life, and they will not there next time when you need a new pair of pants or shirts..... I just hope..... or we all have seen people who pick food from trash and blanket of news papers in winter...... Hope it won’t be you, but for that you need to start learning and acting like one grown up.

You mean your actually older than 15? And here I was thinking you were 12max :nuts:

And for your last 2 posts, I'm Welsh :D

It seems that WHT is spiralling into a black hole of post bashing these days.

<<MOD NOTE: And yet not one report by you Frostie. If you see something off, report it, otherwise please don't bitch and moan about something you aren't willing to do something about.>>

Ed has made a legitimate offer. If you are interested in knowing more then post questions asking such. However if all you want to do is bash his offer then takes your opinions elsewhere. You are only creating a poor image for yourself. If you are not interested in the offer then don't bother posting.

Nice offer Ed. Maybe I could get one off you? ;)

James