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ntwaddel
09-04-2002, 03:35 AM
do you guys prefer qmail or sendmail? I am using sendmail right now, and i am thinking about switching to qmail.

shaunewing
09-04-2002, 03:57 AM
My favourite smtp servers in order of preference:

exim -> qmail -> sendmail.

--Shaun.

ntwaddel
09-04-2002, 02:24 PM
i am using pop_auth right now right sendmail, does qmail have anything like this?

jimroe
09-04-2002, 02:26 PM
Yes - through an easily applied patch you can not only use POP Authorization, but SMTP Authorization (the user sends a username / password to authenticate before mail can be sent). This works even better because you do not have to receive before you can send, but sending requires authorization just like receiving does.

XTStrike
09-05-2002, 11:37 AM
sendmail sucks
qmail rocks

end of discussion :D

hehe

JonB
09-05-2002, 11:47 AM
I have to agree with xtstrike... qmail has proved to be a much better than sendmail.

davidb
09-05-2002, 11:56 AM
not only has sendmail been known to be buggy, but qmail is MUCH EASIER to setup. The best combo of course being qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin+mysql

There are a few versions of smtp auth, so you can choose, and as said before, easily applied. Of course you can also do pop before smtp

Hostnix
09-05-2002, 12:31 PM
I like both, and I've used both quite extensively. I do think each is good for different purposes, however.

Sendmail is great for single site, single domain, no-hassle use. I think it's virtual domain/user setup sucks (actually, virttually noexsistant) which makes it horrible for webhosts, plus it's single config file can be confusing, to say the least. It is the defacto standard though as far as unix MTA's go. I use it for my own personal mail server which serves a few domains which all have local mailboxes.

Qmail is awesome for webhosts and large volume mailservers. I've consulted with clients that needed to send hundreds of thousands of email messages a day (not SPAM, legitmate emails for account balances and stuff like that). Qmail was able to handle it, with no problems. I also use Qmail for my hosting biz. Why? Because it's easy to setup, easy to use and most of all it has awesome virtual domain/user capabilities (especially when used with vpopmail and similar).

So, depending on what you want to do, you can use both sendmail and qmail. If you want to, or are running a webhosting biz, or similar my vote goes to qmail.

Good luck,
C

choon
09-05-2002, 02:03 PM
Hi,

If you want to consider qmail, here you have a minimum of two choices:

qmail + vmailmgr + courier IMAP + squirrelmail etc...

OR

qmail + vpopmail + courier IMAP + sqwebmail etc...

Regards,
Choon

ntwaddel
09-05-2002, 04:12 PM
hey,

so im playing with qmail on a test server right now

they say the best way for mail delivery is to use to ./Mailbox file


my server was setup before to use the /var/spoo/mail way

what do you guys think is best?

also, if i do decide to switch to the ./Mailbox file in their home dir, how can i make it so when im using pine, or the command mail, it reads the ./Mailbox file?

ntwaddel
09-05-2002, 05:37 PM
figured it out, nm :D

choon
09-05-2002, 05:53 PM
Hi,

./Maildir is my choice ;)

You can also read the documents at http://www.lifewithqmail.org/

Regards,
Choon

EdgeWise
09-05-2002, 05:57 PM
Why hasn't anyone suggested postfix? It's simple to use, does both mbox and maildir format mailboxes, and can even use sendmails alias configs (virtualusertable as well with some small tweaks). How can you go wrong? :)

EdgeWise
09-05-2002, 06:09 PM
ntwaddel: mbox is faster (per benchmarks), but Maildir is easier to manage, and won't break if you ever decide to use it over nfs.

As for pine... the easy solution is just have it use your local imap server (in .pinerc or site wide pinerc use: inbox-path={localhost:143} ). The more difficult solution is to apply imap patches to pine (send me a PM and i'll give you a link to them, use them at your own discretion though, as I use the above way). Pine by itself does not support it out-of-the-box.

- kevin

ntwaddel
09-05-2002, 06:23 PM
yeah, im not doing anything over nfs, pine isent even really that big of a deal since i dont offer shells, i just wanted to see if it worked.

so you guys think mbox is the way to go? Maildir sounds good, but it seemed like the main advantages to it were reliablitity over nfs. Also, the mailbox file, should it be .mailbox to keep it hidden, or just mailbox?

Nick