Hello Everybody,

We are an ISO 9001:2000 web design and development company with over five years of experience and a dedicated team of 23 full time professionals.

Our service clearly states that "we will work till you are satisfied", i.e. unlimited valid revisions will be made.

Also we are always available on instant messengers for answering your queries and providing you updates.

We are currently running a special discount and are providing a 10% discount on our already low priced services.


Web Design

We offer very high quality web design services giving high priority to visual appeal and usability of the website. We have designed over two hundred websites during last five years and have gained several satisfied clients including members of this messageboard.

Cost: $125 for initial design + $20 per additional page.
Delivery time: 10-15 page site delivered within seven days

All our site contains flash elements as and where required to give the dynamic look and feel. They also undergo in house quality tests and are backed up with a three month unlimited warranty to fix any bug that you/your customer might discover.

If you have any confusion, please feel free to ask for our "Development Methodology" brochure at talash@talash.net



Template Design

We can do very high quality custom template design. Our templates will be unique and will be only sold to one unique customer.

Our template design service includes:


Fully customised design
PSD source file
HTML design for the home page and an inside page
Javascript rollover effect, etc as required
30 day support


Cost: $150 per template
Delivery Time: 2-3 days


Portfolio

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http://www.affordableservers.net
http://www.humanausa.com
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http://www.acembroiders.com
http://www.raexports.com
http://www.itkarma.com
http://www.talash.net/demo/shapecd/
http://www.the-creation.com
http://www.wonderfulhosting.com
http://www.thinktankvision.com
http://www.house-solutions.co.uk
http://www.vgupta.com/training
http://www.avity.com

... and many more :)

And yes, we can match the quality of the top providers like pixelbrick :) (though we have not received an opportunity to do so yet) - BTW, we appriciate their work a lot.



Logo design

We can provide quality logo designs. We will provide sleek, impressive and striking design concepts for your company identity to reflect your business and its philosophy in the simplest possible way.

We provide you three mock ups and you can choose one from the mockups and request changes to suit your needs.

Cost: $35 per logo
Delivery Time: 2 days



Web Programming & Ecommerce

We have a very efficient and talented of programmers who have a diverse skill set to accomodate some most common web scripting languages and platforms:


PHP / MySQL
Perl / CGI / C / C++
ASP / MS Access / MS SQL


We have a solid development methodology with proven success in implementing the same.

You can hire our programmers on project basis, man-month basis or on an hourly contract.

Cost: $10 per hour or send us an RFP at talash@talash.net
Delivery Time: Depends upon project. Availability immediate.

Portfolio (selected from last three months):
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http://www.getmefast.com
http://www.century21carriage.com/century/index.php
http://www.prayforpeace.com/index.php
http://206.158.98.164/casino_new (Login/Pass = test3/pass3)

There are several other ongoing projects, but we cannot list them since they are incomplete.

We also have ready products like:


Quote maker based on user selection
Realty listing system




Banner Design

We can design you attractive banners for your website. We have done so for several companies including AffordableColo, CAHostNet, etc.

Cost: $25 per banner
Delivery Time 2 days



For any of the services you can send us an email at talash@talash.net with WHT mentioned somewhere in the subject line to avail the 10% discount on the listed price (the price mentioned above are the listed price).

To give a more detailed info, you can always use our RFP generator at http://www.talash.net/rfq.htm

To place the order straight away, please use http://www.talash.net/order.htm

If someone wish to speak to us before taking any action, please catch us online on

MSN Messenger : abhishek1977@hotmail.com
Yahoo ID: talash98
AOL Messenger: talash98 (i use this rarely)

If you want to call me :) 91-98311-51614

If you have any confusion or any query, please feel free to direct them to me directly at abhi@talash.net

I look forward to do business with you all !

Regards,
Abhishek Rungta
Chief Executive
Indus Net Technologies
Email: talash@talash.net
http://www.talash.net

All I have to say is that I really recommend this company to anyone who is looking for a site design. They are a pleasure to work with, and have done jobs for us in the past and are actually doing a job for one of our clients at this time.

-Steven

Nice work and reasonable prices! Keep up the good job :)

David

Nice offer.

I wonder if you would design/develop websites for me, and you will not list them in your portfolio. I own them (copyright).

Talash is good, but those prices are unreasonably low ;). Of course, that's because they're based in india...

Lazarus,

I know that the prices are unreasonably low. In fact we do not make a lot of profits with this pricing, since we run a large infrastructure with two centrally cooled office, almost 25 PC's, servers, bandwidth, and above all 23 great guys.

We are just trying to make a mark and get our talent across to people around.

I hope we succeed in our mission and then take on more profitable stage in years to come.

Regards,
Abhishek

PS: Thanx everybody for your appriciation. It just makes us better.

Talash,
I definitly did not mean that in a bad sense... it was a compliment ;). Having collaborated with you on Whatuwant.com I can tell you're definitly reliable and efficient.
I hope business goes well for you.
-Laz.

"And yes, we can match the quality of the top providers like pixelbrick (though we have not received an opportunity to do so yet) - BTW, we appriciate their work a lot. "

Through stealing images from our clients?
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Further content of this post has been removed so that the Hosting company that was ripped off by this agency does not get their name tarnished unnecessarily.

They did in fact remove the offending site within minutes of verifying the infringement.

Yet we still are scratching our heads about hosting companies that bluntly ask for a site "like hostrocket.com" "Rackfast.com" etc.

Since some designers and agencies that cannot design like that WILL go out and copy designs just to satisfy their clients.

I have taken resell4us.com down now... shame on our desiger talash.net, what a piece of work.... THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR COPYING IMAGES

Thank you Charles.

Sad to see how agencies like that create not just problems for themselves yet create even more problems for the clients that they work for.

PixelBrick

TDD, you're from PixelBrick?

Nick,

Yes.
See http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=547930#post547930

disappointing :( Talash, your work seems to be good as a whole....a few quid extra on some photos would have saved all this!! Thats the one thing guaranteed here at WHT.....if you do something wrong....they'll find out!

Cheers,

the http://www.talash.net layout itself is also stolen: http://www.4guys.com :rolleyes:

Originally posted by NORRITT
the http://www.talash.net layout itself is also stolen: http://www.4guys.com :rolleyes:

What the heck :eek:

Try switching windows rapidly, exact same position of design :D

Originally posted by talash
Lazarus,

I know that the prices are unreasonably low.

And now most people know why...

Hi,

I have read these posts in the morning here.

I am looking into the matter and both the sites immediately. If any image has been stolen, we will also take immediate action against the designer and do whatever can be done to restore faith of our customers in our services.

Besides this,
Regarding having a simmilar layout with 4guys, we have previously discussed the same on this very forum and most of the people think that it is inspirational rather than a copy. I do not remember the thread ID, but we can search and post the same if someone is interested.

My personal apologies to Charles for the inconvinience while i get back to you with the root cause of the copyright infringement notice. I shall post within next four hours with the results of our findings.

Regards,
Abhishek Rungta
Indus Net Technologies

Dear TDD,

We are investigating the images that have been stolen from your clients website and used by our designers. I understand it is a serious offence and in no way we will take it lightly. If we have done wrong, we will take responsibility.

Our initial investigation has already shown traits that your comments are right.

I request you to kindly send me the links with details of the images stolen and where have you identified them, so that we can check the same.

You can email them to me at talash@talash.net

I do not know what you think of our company, but our motive is not to steal. I know you may feel this is a recovery statement, but it is not. We will take full responsibility of the fiasco and do whatever we can do to settle things.

On reciept of the links, we will immediately carry on further investigation and get back to you and the forums.

Regards.
Abhishek Rungta
Indus Net Technologies

Hello,

I have just recd the offending pictures. Our first action is to remove those pictures and hand over an updated site to the client.

I will discuss the problem more in depth with my offending designers, since there cannot be an excuse for this and taking full responsibility of the entire issue myself, i will try to formulate a plan to get around the problem.

Since this incident might have hurt our own customers, we will post our corrective plan here for them to review and comment.

Thank you again.

Regards,
Abhishek

You seem to be doing the right thing now talash.

Yet keep in mind that designers wrk how management tells them to work.
If management says "Never use stolen images" than a designer will not go against that.

Maybe they are corrupt designer? Maybe theres a COO in his company, and one of the designers wants to take over? so he has to get rid of management first.

Dear Edude,

We do not have a very large company. It is just 23 people out of which half the workforce is in programming work.

Again I would not use the word "corrupt" for my designers. It is just the way they have been doing work in other companies before joining us. Also i take responsibility for this since i must have investigated this much before and identified that they are stealing images. But is is rather difficult to keep an eye on every design being created. I will write on this more after we complete the meeting with my design team.

However the damage has been done. It cannot be repaired :(

Let me see, if i can save my company, whom i love the most in the world. I do not know if this mistake is pardonable, as it appears from more than 40+ posts that have been posted in one night after this matter has been discovered.

I need luck.

Regards,
Abhishek

Hello Everybody,

First of all, i would like to apologise to the companies who have been hurt by this incident including PixelBrick and AffordableColo.

We understand that this mistake has been committed and there cannot be any excuse for it.

We can just have some corrective actions and explaination which came out of our staff meeting.

Two of my designers have been doing this on a regular basis. I do not blame them, since this was a practise they were used to in their past job and nobody cared to stop them. I have already made it clear to them that this cannot continue and any such copyright infringement resulting from their work, will cost them their job. A guideline has been issued to the design team to abide by the ethical practices that is expected from designers all over the world.

However i would also like to put up couple of points brought to notice by them. This does not make them good, but is very important:

- Most companies ask us to make blunt copies of a given site
- Everybody want excellent images, but do not want to pay for stock images or photography
- Prices are extreme low
- Time given is too less to bring up good creatives
- If we refuse customers, we will be further killed due to this downturn !

Though some of the points they have suggested are relevant, it is very difficult to let things go the way they went and caused this problem.

The following decisions have been taken:

1. Strict policy on copyright infringement and any complain can cost them their job without any warning.
2. Review of current portfolio & sites online for possibilities of any such problem
3. Providing them more resources as it sees that the current stock photo CDs are not enough for the jobs
4. Not accepting jobs who requests a carbon copy type of site
5. Raising the pricing
6. Increasing the time to deliver (i know this is another nail in our coffin)

We are also aware that few more sites that we have designed might have such material. Though we are trying to go through them and trying to identify such issues, we will also need some help from people from outside.

Anyone who reports any copyright infringement problem to us will be reimbursed $5 for each instance reported. This reimbursement is not for financial gain, but to show that we appriciate your help. We cannot afford more since this issue is already set to draw up lots of cash from us.

We are not a bad company. Trust us. Give us time to recover and we will implement our action plan to prove that we mean what we are saying here.

Looking forward to your cooperation and support. If you have any other query, please email me directly at talash@talash.net. I know it might be very critical, but i am here to face it.

Regards,
Abhishek Rungta
Indus Net Technologies

Some people pointed out on simmilarity between our site and 4guys. There is a thread which addresses this issue :
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?33864

The modified design for resell4us is on its way.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33864

BTW, we are also working on our new design for quite some time and it is due to a launch by 15th September.

Regards,
Abhishek

Talash, you handled the situation very well. I hope things will get better for your company. Its very unfortunately that sometimes a few employees can cost you a lot of $$$. Also its rare to see a company admits its mistake like you did and for that I congratulate you. Hopefully, everything will get back to normal soon. :)

talash,
I agree with universal2001, you handled the situation very well. I have read this thread in its entirety with a close eye because you have done work for us in the past and are presently designing a site for a client of ours. I appreciate your honesty and prompt attention to this matter, as it shows this community a lot about you and your company. I hope that this will just be an isolated incident and never happen again.

Good luck
-Steven

Originally posted by talash
Some people pointed out on simmilarity between our site and 4guys. There is a thread which addresses this issue :
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?33864
It is a shame to call yourself a good designer, but not be creative enough to create an completely own layout!

inspirational is making a design in a similar style but NOT using ecactly the same layout, very similar menu and icons. It is a copy of the 4guys design. not 1:1 but if you have even copied the motive of the background picture on their start page (the keyboard) and the ideas with transparent text (above and right of the flash movie) ... :rolleyes:

Norritt,

I think you like to flame. I dont mind arguing on anything which you do not agree to. But i have already posted a thread where we can argue.

I have posted this thread to advertise my service and not to argue.

There was a genuine problem which was posted by a gentleman and it was dealt with appropriately and we havealso taken necessary corrective actions. I dont think i need to give any additional explaination.

Thank you.

Regards,
Abhishek

Talash,

I congratulate you and wish you the best of luck. You have taken correct and decisive actions and have publicly apologized.

I wish your company all the best. And yes we see very often in these days that many people just want a carbon copy of a site.

Yes such requests should be rejected for the sake of your own.. and the companies reputation.

Again all the best of luck and good work to you and your company. You did the right thing.

Do not be afraid to raise prices. Charge a fair price for good work. And deliver a top notch product.

Hello TDD,

I would like to thank you and several other well wishers on this board. You have given us the strength to come up stronger in the time off crisis.

We will be undergoing a major change in days to come. I am very confident that my guys have got the talent and this incident cannot press that down.

We all have resolved to come up with much better designs and ensure the intigrity of work.

However as mentioned, if anybody finds any of our work infringing copyright, please contact me directly at talash@talash.net and we will correct it right away. I know there should not be several instances, but still, since the number is unknown, i am stating this.

Now onwards we have also made a rule for our designers to list the source of each and every image they create. So any site going live now onwards should be okay.

To our customers: Thank you for your trust. Our quality will not suffer. Rather it will improve. So be rest assured.

Now lets the business move :)

Regards,
Abhishek Rungta
Indus Net Technologies

PS: Since the controversy is over, shall i keep this thread or delist it. Whats your suggestion ? How do moderators want to handle this ?

Talash, good job. You set a great example in how you handled this that several others on this forum could learn from.

TDD - your response is a class act. *applauds*

take care,

Brandon

I would keep the thread. I think it's a testament to your commitment. Ultimately, it speaks well of your company.

Time for group hug :D

Keep up the good work!

Originally posted by TDD
Talash,

I congratulate you and wish you the best of luck. You have taken correct and decisive actions and have publicly apologized.

I wish your company all the best. And yes we see very often in these days that many people just want a carbon copy of a site.

Yes such requests should be rejected for the sake of your own.. and the companies reputation.

Again all the best of luck and good work to you and your company. You did the right thing.

Do not be afraid to raise prices. Charge a fair price for good work. And deliver a top notch product.

Yes, please charge a reasonable amount everybody... stop underselling yourselves.

This matter has been taken care of in a very professional and good manner. Best of luck to talash - I see you've learned from your error.

:) Yes $10.00 an Hours is way to low. I mean lowest I found coming to this was around $25-35 an hours. You could still charge $15-20.00 and be considered super low. And I know I plan on purchasing some programming soon if prices are this good. Do you accept Paypal?

Hi Darkfire001,

We do accept Pay Pal. You can contact us at talash@talash.net for any programming assignment. We will get back to you within 24 hours.

thank you for your interest.

Regards,
Abhishek Rungta

Hi!

Reading this thread is truly inspirational. We salute you talash for handling the situation quite extraordinarily well.

Best wishes on your promo. And good luck to your company!

:)

I agree. It's nice to see someone admit to a problem and work to actively solve that problem. Too many Shawn White's (of Cyber Wings) or Timmy's.

I will be contacting you shortly for a project coming up.

Take care-
-WC-

I'm glad to see you've actually gotten two (possible) jobs out of this thread. Just shows how well you've handled the situation ;).

Hi,

Yeah. We have got few orders through this thread (which i was least expecting because of the problem we were into). We have got guys working on them already and we will post the completed site URLs as soon as they are complete.

Regards,
Abhishek

WOW! I'm currently outsourcing for Indus net right now and you have to believe me when I say this but Talash (Abhi) is the most amazing guy I've met. I'm only 17 right now and very few people are able to trust youngsters like me when starting up. He has given me a personal product to make for him... and he has tought me so much since I'v begun. I'm a lazy arsed guy... I was supposed to complete the thing he gave me a month ago and still I have about half left but still he baring me... (god knows why).. I mean he is going in loses and stuff but still... *phew*

Anyway believe me when I say this... Talash is probably the best web design company I've seen. Very friendly and very knowledgeable.

*prays for got talash*

I will never feel the same again when it comes to purchasing Domains. LOL, Now I have the philosphy that for every domain I buy I could have bought nearly an Hour of High Quality Programming. Talash unless my Self-Taught PHP suddenly jumps in quality I will be contacting you shortly.

Believe me, these guys are talented. Talash.net and Abhi did a GREAT design for me and I am 100% satisfied. I wasn't happy with the first design and they did a new one until I was fully satisfied. I trust Abhi even after all the copyright issues, things just got out of control. We all can see in this post that the guy is 100% honest

Talasha, please tell me why this site you created, as featured on your list of portfolio sites

http://www.the-creation.net/site/

has the menu stolen from

http://www.mediatemple.net/services/web_hosting/

look at the code Talasha, it is the exact same on your site as it is media temple.

Media Temple are a web hosting company and a Macromedia partner. They are very well known and its obvious that www.the-creation.net/site/ menu was stolen from Media Temple.

Talasha, are you going to say that this is the fault of one of your designers?

Not only are you offering low prices, which is fine but the work you are producing is not your own. You and/or your employees are blantantly copying other peoples code and hard work then passing these creations off as originals. Your clients do not know that they have stolen images and stolen menus.

This simply is not fair on your clients and other web designers. As a web developer myself, i work hard to craete original designs that do not copy anyone elses. Why should it be that you are allowed to advertise here what is basically stolen goods?

Do you think it is fair that you have now been caught out with stolen images and now I have exposed you for using a stolen menu, one that doesnt work in Mozilla may I add, so peeps look in IE!

I sell web design services for low prices and i have no problem with the competition and no doubt my clients have never heard of you and vise versa. My problem is why should I spend 15 hours making my DHTML menus with hand coded JavaScript while you just take whatever you please to cut corners?

You haven't even bothered to change the appearance of the menu, I visited Media temple last night after seeing them on Macromedia.com, I instantly new I had seen that menu before.

Talasha, please clean up your act. I understand your need for offering innovative and low cost web solutions, but do it fairly. Why should you be allowed to steal code while I pay good money for books and spend the time learning JavaScript, amongst many other web languages.

Play fair or don't play at all. I also urge all clients of this company, to rethink there position on buying services from a web designer who uses copyrighted material.

I have informed Media Temple and macromedia of your violation of copyright.

Play with the same rules as the rest of us or don't play at all.

Good day to you.

Judge, Jury and Executioner!

You never even bothered to rename the style sheet

From your site and Media Temple

<LINK href="images/mt_style.css"
rel=stylesheet type=text/css>


<link rel="stylesheet" href="mt_style.css" type="text/css">

shame on you!

Hi iwillexposeu,

There is nothing to expose. I have already accepted the fact that some copyright violations might have happened with our designers, who have matured in a different environment.

If there is something, i categorically told you that you must email me directly and we will take action on that immediately and correct it.

Still i find you blaming me in a thread where we are advertising. I o not understand any sense in this. Also you must mention your name and email address. We want to solve problems but we need your cooperation.

Regards
Abhishek Rungta

Well I am sure Media Temple will understand the sense in this.

It is your duty to instantly remove offending material. No decent web designer would leave a stolen menu system up on a live site and blame some one else.

Why would I want to give you my email and name, you would visit my sites and rip my menus off wouldn't you.

OK, I am going to rip all your sites off and then tell you that it was one of my designers who has since left. How would you like it?

You obviously have no morals and you obviously like leaving illegal web sites up.
You operate a fraudulent company who engages in copyright infringement and then you have the balls to come on here and justify leaving the offending code online. One has to question your technical ability if you have to steal other peoples work.

How very sad indeed!

Hi,

I think i have clearly explained how our team is handling the problems they have created for themselves.

Besides we are not blaming anybody for anything.

I understand that you do not want to give your introduction. This is fine with us.

BTW, It is not in my hand to bring the site down. I have already informed my client about it. Also i am checking what do you feel has been copied.

Regarding morals and legality of our company, it depends upon personal perspectives. I am not to argue on that.

Regards,
Abhishek

The chickenhearted posting by the anonymous user while orcheastrated and a bit contribed does point out a problem that has persisted for a signifigant time Talash.

How many staff/designers to ripper ratio are you willing to openly state are involved?

Are you willing to expose them specifically so that the community here is able to protect their investments at a later date, or are you going to keep that a secret allowing them to continue at a later date?

Your word is one thing, but their actions speak louder and I don't have to tell you that it is not going to go away with song and dance.

Help the community by exposing the actual people with direct responsibilty to the actual ripping so that they may protect themselves from any further copyright infringement sourced from your company, and in the future when they leave.

Your post does not make sense, first you say you have informed your client and then you say you are checking what I feel has been copied.

So why would you have informed the client if you don't know what has been copied?

You need to stick to one lie at a time so you don't get confused.

This is my last post on this subject, I haven't the time to be checking up on you as it would obviously be a full time job!

I'll be interested to read what others have to say.

Anyway, good luck with your business, it must be profitable since you have 'ready made' templates available to you all over the web.... what a great business model you have!

Hi Smuel,

Both the designs are by one of our designer called Tilak Sanyal.

When the first case came into light i warned him and told him specifically that if i find another case against him in the same area, he has to loose his job.

However the work on the-creations is much older. This was done almost 8-10 months back by this guy. This guy is talented but the place he used to work used to do this in extreme. They did not consider it illegal. But i do. Once i have explained him that this is wrong, i am sure he will not do it in future.

Do you think it should cost him his job ? I will like to help him out and make sure that he produces things originally by himself. I think he can be given a chance to come up clean with his acts in future.

Again, as i said that all sites that are being launched within last week and the ones we are going to launch are undergoing extensive check in the sense that the designer need to specify the source of the image before he says that the design is complete. If our clients want that report with our work, we are more than ready to provide that.

I have no problem in putting my designer infront of all so that you can ask him why he did that. But he is my full time employee and he does not uses community forums.

Let me know if i can help you.

Regards
Abhishek

Samuel,

You need to refrain from calling people silly names like 'chickenhearted'.

I choose to be anon because in the past on other forums I have not only had endless viruses and mail bombs sent to me but also abusive phone calls from anon people and even others who have contacted my clients from my web site and told them complete nonsense.

I have also had people spamming my forums with foul language and the forums of sites I have designed and been associated with.

All that just because I have spoken the truth and confronted someone. You yourself have been a part of an abuse campaign towards other members of other forums. Marc from MCHOST stated that he had complaints about you from many people.

So I am not chickenhearted, I just don't want my host to experience DOS attacks because I pissed someone off in a forum.

Too many people who wouldn't dare go head to head with me in the real world would have no problem abusing me from behind the safety of their computer...... so being anon has its advantages.

Yet another troll from MCHost's boards.... ahhaah

Marc has stated that many times, never produced proof, nor provided requested e-mail responses. It's amazing how many of you idgets believed that BS.

Yes, you're a chickhearted anonymous poster, and trolling this thread... hahaha idget.

Abuse campaigns... please divert with another load of BS.. same thing different day....

Originally posted by talash
Hi Smuel,

Both the designs are by one of our designer called Tilak Sanyal.

When the first case came into light i warned him and told him specifically that if i find another case against him in the same area, he has to loose his job.

However the work on the-creations is much older. This was done almost 8-10 months back by this guy. This guy is talented but the place he used to work used to do this in extreme. They did not consider it illegal. But i do. Once i have explained him that this is wrong, i am sure he will not do it in future.

Do you think it should cost him his job ? I will like to help him out and make sure that he produces things originally by himself. I think he can be given a chance to come up clean with his acts in future.

Again, as i said that all sites that are being launched within last week and the ones we are going to launch are undergoing extensive check in the sense that the designer need to specify the source of the image before he says that the design is complete. If our clients want that report with our work, we are more than ready to provide that.

I have no problem in putting my designer infront of all so that you can ask him why he did that. But he is my full time employee and he does not uses community forums.

Let me know if i can help you.

Regards
Abhishek

One designer, causing this much damage, this designer is not registered, and you ask me if they should lose their job?

Yes, they should not only lose their job, but be sued by your company for corporate sabotouge.

Originally posted by iwillexposeu
Too many people who wouldn't dare go head to head with me in the real world would have no problem abusing me from behind the safety of their computer...... so being anon has its advantages.

As you state this being anonymous.

You're a wimp, and came into the thread anonymously "Advantageously" hiding like a little kid.

Believe me, I have no quams meeting people in public from forums, never have, and never will.

Dear Samuel,

Thank you. We will consider your suggestions seriously and see how it fits to solvethe entire issue.

Regards,
Abhishek

iwillexposeu,

What you said didn't make any sense at all.Everyone makes mistake. But you don't directly go and cut them off. You warn them and give them a chance. If they fail again you cut em off. Its not like you're Mr. Perfect and never have made any mistake at all! Now have you? Indus Net made a mistake and they're trying their best to rectify it.

They lately launched a website http://www.prayforpeace.com on 9/11. Check it.

I don't see how you make sense. All you're doing is dropping from no where and being harsh. You're on the verge of flaming. Please I beg remain anonymous and leave. No forum needs a anonymous guy having no business other then ruining everything.

I'm not anonymous and for me is obvious that that ripping off others people work is business practice for talash.net.
Do you really believe that this guy - Abhishek didn't know about all the rippoffs?
There were 3 examples of blatant rippoffs done by talash.net, how many more do you need?
Are you going to be nice and polite if this guy copy your work tomorrow?
I doubt it!
In my opinion most of the people here are looking just for cheap deals - $2/hour programming, $50 site designs, unlimited this, unlimited that...
Well, the good and ORIGINAL ideas/designs/programming are expensive guys and that is the way it should be.

Take care,
Peter

Poncho it wasnt $2.00 an Hour Programming and $50.00 Designs, It was at least 5 Times that and besides that must you consider everything low costing to be a rip-off? There is such thing as over-pricing and thats where the $65.00/Hour PHP Programming Comes from. And anyways if I can get some orgininal work done in my situation I dont really care what happens to other people (Through I would be pissed if programming wasnt original), I think that the people who are taking the offensive are too used to mistrust and liers on other messageboards since there are plenty of them around. Why dont you give this guy and his company a chance to come back and show you that they really dont intend to commit fraud in the future.

Hi,

What i mean to say that, yes there were problems in some work before 30th August. And we are ready to solve those problems. We are not running away. We are giving those problems a priority over our current business. This is hampering our own business a lot in terms of revenues, but i understand this is important.

If i have to run away, why will i do these things?

Besides this there are around 25 projects going on at any point of time and it is really not possible for the top management to take care of all the projects and verify if the content is original. For this purpose we have implemented a system of content reporting that are being used in every website and the report is also available to our clients on demand. This should solve the problem.

Now someone might say that why didnt we had this system before. We never faced this kind of thing and were not aware that this is going on. If i would have been designing myself and visiting hundreds of websites everyday, i could have identified these identifyable problems before you all did.

About the three cases that have been identified, two have been fixed by us and modified stuff sent to the client within 24 hours. For the third one (i.e. our own website) several people think it is not a rip off. We have a seperate thread for this. But still we are changing that design, since it can negatively affect our sales.

We will also publish our own report of all the identified cases and the corrective action with time line very soon. So there is no hide and seek game.

Also, we know that a mistake has been committed, but one mistake cannot put a company out of business, if we are committed to solve that with active interest.

The rest is on you guys who want to take things offensive.

I will keep working towards making Indus Net Technologies a better company, and these instances are just helping us to become one, since we are now getting more concious and knowledgable about these issues and how to solve them with improvement in our system.

Thank you everybody.

Regards
Abhishek

PS: I am expressly thankful to those people who understood our stand and position and helped us to recover.

There is such thing as over-pricing and thats where the $65.00/Hour PHP Programming Comes from.

Darkfire001,

I'm not 15 years old and I can't afford to work for $10 or $15 per hour. I charge much more. Now the thing is that there are many, many people offering their programming services in my area of expertise and they charge less than me (because of the lack of experience or because of their country standard – India, Eastern Europe or because of something else), but I still got my well-paid job. You have to ask yourself why.
I didn’t say that all cheap deals are rippoffs, I say: You always get what you’ve paid for :D.

Peter

Dear Poncho,

Our prices are low because we wish to charge a fair price. I know you are seeing in a different perspective since this incident has happened. Still our perspective remains :)

Besides this $15 is not a very small amount and i strongly feel that in years to come the global pricing for programming service will go down considerably.

Companies like Infosys (who can really match and exceed standards of several companies worldwide), are technically competent and have great work culture have their billing rates around $25 per hour for offshore development. In that light our rates are quite justified.

Regards
Abhishek

Besides this $15 is not a very small amount and i strongly feel that in years to come the global pricing for programming service will go down considerably.

Yeah, right :D
And we all are moving to India because we can't pay our bills here no more.
Dream, my friend, dream :stickout

Peter

Peter,

I am not sure why are you taking my comments negatively. Prices can go down in all countries with time. The economy is global now. No one of us can ignore this :)

And at the end of theday, it is my view point. It is possible that nobody subscribes to this, but i do !

Regards
Abhishek

Peter,

I am not sure why are you taking my comments negatively. Prices can go down in all countries with time. The economy is global now. No one of us can ignore this

And at the end of theday, it is my view point. It is possible that nobody subscribes to this, but i do !

If you work in global economy then try to match my programming rate, because I'm not going to match yours :stickout . If you are good you won't have any problems with that.
The thing is that we live in different countries with different standards and that is nothing new. The rates are going up as everything else here! The companies that outsource their programming in countries with low standard are companies looking for LOW RATES , not for quality.

And my friendly advice at the end:

Instead of waiting for the "new better global economy" learn to play by the rules of the real economy -> Don't steal others work :D.

Peter

:) :) Hi,

I wont argue. I will let time do the talking !
I think we had enough talk on this thread on various issues. I shall concentrate my attention somewhere else. Happy surfing !

Abhishek

Erm poncho2000 I couldn't help notice that every time you were refering to Low Standards you were referring to India. I'm an Indian and I can't help it find that offending. I don't know if you meant is that way but still. The standards in India aren't low. They're the same. The cost is lesser and the price of living here is lesser. That doesn't make is "LOW STANDARD".

Erm poncho2000 I couldn't help notice that every time you were refering to Low Standards you were referring to India. I'm an Indian and I can't help it find that offending. I don't know if you meant is that way but still. The standards in India aren't low. They're the same. The cost is lesser and the price of living here is lesser. That doesn't make is "LOW STANDARD".

Don't get mad boy :stickout .
I am using India as an example, because talash.net are Indian company. This is not too hard to guess for most of the people.
Are you seriously saying that the standard of living in India is comparable to the standard of living in USA, Canada or West European Countries?
Why are then all Indians IT professionals trying to get US work permit?
I understand that you are biased here, but the standard of living in India IS MUCH LOWER than in US/Canada/Europe and that is a fact.
Please read a little before making post like the one quoted above ;)

Suggested reading:

http://www.expressitpeople.com/20020401/abroad1.shtml

A quote from the suggested reading:

A budding professional in India who would have to save for about two years to buy a snazzy motorcycle back home, could save enough in a year to buy a compact car here. There is little doubt that the standard of living is entirely different, especially if one were to compare to that of a professional in America with that of an Indian.

Peter

IT is a though job speacially when u working in a professional companies its aint a chicken store where u cooking chickens without using ur mind as much as you are using in controlling a company database or programming some software's.
in USA/CANADA/AUSTRALIA/EUROPE/plus some MIDDLE EAST countries/ a simple person can earn NEAR to 2300$ per/Month(without any skills ) but INDIA,PAKISTAN,BANGLADESH,NEPAL and some more countries have thier economy down even the engineer's or doctor's plus IT professionals ofcurse can not earn 2300$ per month in the above poor countries but they deserv to earn as much as they can earn in USA/CANADA/EUROPE etc .
just lil example
if unedcuated (without any skils) person come to india he will never ever find his lunch money but if he go to the USA/CANADA/ etc he can earn pretty much $$$$ even he can buy a porsche after few years ..lol.. So think about Professionals ;).
but its all depend on country economy how much $$$ they have in the WORLD BANK ;)
i hope this cleared a little SO you guys can HUG each other now..lol
PEACE + PEACE + PEACE
thank you.

What are you talking about?

A no skill job here in the US will get you minimum wage, which is around $6/hour. Full time (40 hour week), that works out to be $12,240/year pre-tax. Monthly that's around $1000.00. Take taxes out, rent, food - so I am not sure where the Porsche comment is from.

So I suppose, if someone worked that way for 5 years, and didn't eat or pay taxes or rent, yeah - they could get that used Porsche.

Maybe you were joking, but I didn't read that into your post. If you were, sorry for reading you wrong. :) But if you were serious, you might want to rethink your stance on unskilled labor in the States. :)

Take care-
-WC-

i did not count the taxes,rent etc i am telling u the total income and i know some of my friends whos earning more then that. one of my friend is working in chicken store in meryyland hes getting paid 9.50$ per hour,working 15 hours /24 hours:)
so i think i am completely right.
oh yes i hope i will find a good job too after completing my BACHELORS IN COM SCIENCE.
cheers ;)

Poncho2002, Im not saying $15.00 an Hour is a Fair Pay for a Programmer ecspecially in countries where cost of living is much Higher like in Western Europe and US. And I can see why you wouldnt want to charge $15.00 an hour or what not if you dont think its reasonable. But the $15.00 in US might go further in India. Also I think the reason that the programming/Web design work from India is cheaper not because it may be of low quality but because some of these factors 1. Too many programmers in the proffession leads to price-cutting to keep a job. 2. Price-of-Living is Lower 3. Bussiness's charge less so they can bring in more bussiness to make up for the deficet caused by the cut. 4. Establish company, They might be a newer company in market and might want to lower the prices to establish themselves as high quality programmers then jack the prices up when they have a reputation. 5. Your comment of "You get what you pay for" might sound good but it doesnt always hold true in all cases. It might apply to SOME lower charging programmers but I have seen equally medium-high priced ones that have less expierence then I do and heck only langauge I can lay a finger on without sweating is Basic (And simplified at that :))

Hey guys,

Seems this thread is changing to too many debating grounds. If one feels that our quality is poor, i dont mind. If someone says standard of living and work is low in India, it can be his / her perception. I dont mind.

What matters is the end result, which only time and work can tell.

Hey guys, let some work come in :)

Regards,
Abhishek

hello to ya all,

I know i am a bit late with posting to this thread, but anyway, i hope someone will see my txt,

I have to ask one thing ! Talash, please tell us all, if You are not affraid of "moral" police, how much do you pay the designers that works for You ???!? I would really like to know. I supose You are one of the people who live on other people's back, if you know what i mean. Taking(well not so much) which is disgrace for the profession, and giving to your designers peanuts for their hardwork....
Really would like to know...

Hello babylonian,

I am not sure what do you mean by this. I do not leave on anybodys back. If what i do is called living on others back then all entrepreuners in this world does exactly that.

I have built up this entire company out of my hard work and committment to my work. My people adore me and respect me for the career i share with them.

They are paid very well and so much that they can comfortably lead their family and have leisures of their life. I will not like to disclose the salary since this is a personal matter to my company and my employees. This is definitely equivalent to a person in US earning USD 80-90K per annum.

I also hope that you should spend some time in constructive thought. I am sure that will help you, your business, your employees and also the general industry. I really do not know why some people spend so much time thinking what others are doing and blame without properly researching about the company and its background.

Thank you.

Regards
Abhishek Rungta