UPDATE SEPT 12, 2002.
Still no problems, everything going well. Had a few more support questions and they were answered fully to my satisfaction.


--------OLD POST------
Well, after much searching I've finnally signed up with a Dot5Hosting. At first I was going to sign up with hostpacket.net, but due to credit card problems on mybehalf, I never got around to it. And then after all their bad reviews I went to Dot5; they had a lot of positive ones here.

I just signed up today and I'll keep you guys updated.

-Firstly I was not send by anyone on Dot5hosting...i can back here to review b/c I came to get help on which one to go with.

-The sign up was mostly painless...although there was a browser problem, but that was on my side. They helped me clear that up.

-I got my account setup quickly and everything worked fine.

-I am a n00bie at hosting so I had a lot of questions, but he was on MSN so i got real time responses and answers to all my questions.

-I would say that for a first timer to webhosting with all these services, it was a little difficult to understand everything ,but chatting with him on MSN helped a lot in understanding what's going on. It would be nice if they had a indepth FAQ (he said he's making one right now)

-I need extra MYSQL and I got them setup right away. So that was great!

Conclusion:
A very cheap, good host. Hosting for $9.99 (dot 2) with everything you could need is very reasonable. Heck, I spend more on lunch in 3 days than that. I've read that support is the biggest issue and I would say they've gotten that covered. I would give them a big "thumbs up".

I'll keep you updated to see if things change.

-Robert

And you came to this conclusion in less than a day of doing business with them?

Nothing against them. But, don't you think your "review" would help others if you posted it after using the host?

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
And you came to this conclusion in less than a day of doing business with them?

Nothing against them. But, don't you think your "review" would help others if you posted it after using the host?
Let us know how you're going in 6mths. :)

As nice as you are rafiki about dot5, your comments mean absolutely nothing. 1 day is not enough for a review. Yes were interested about your experience later on down the road but please spare us the BS about being with them for 1 day. They read these forums as well, and this is only speculation I in no way accuse anyone of anything, but If I were Dot5 i'd do everything in my power to keep you happy as you are a regular WHT member.

Sounds like a great sign-up proceedure and that means just SOOOOOO much. :D

i know after one day it isn't much, that's why i said i'd keep you updated and i also clearly said i just signed up today... I plan to keep you guys up to date...but so far it's been EXCELLENT.

Originally posted by rafiki55

I just signed up today and I'll keep you guys updated.

-Robert

:rolleyes: :cartman: :rolleyes:

Will you be as quick to criticise them after 1 day of problems ?? Huh .. will you promise us that ..

This is realy starting to wear thin , all these glowing praises of this particular host after 1 day of hosting with them ?!?

P.S. look in the brown envelope under your chair ..you've got extra 100mb space, 1 gig bandwidth .. and thanx for the great review || signed - .5

:D

yes quick to jude...i am guilty of that....but in my defence....

I didn't say anything about how good their actually hosting was...i just said that they tech support from this guy has been really great...that i know is true. So i mean, the stuff i have judge is pretty acurate in my opinion. As of right now, their tech support is great. and their signup is quick.

(i've been talking to their tech with questions and what not for 2 weeks)

Originally posted by rafiki55
. . . . . .I didn't say anything about how good their actually hosting was... . . . . . .I think you did. The problem is, you don't help anyone by doing it. You don't help someone reading the thread. And you certainly don't help dot5. Originally posted by rafiki55
. . . . . . . . . .
Conclusion:
A very cheap, good host. Hosting for $9.99 (dot 2) with everything you could need is very reasonable. Heck, I spend more on lunch in 3 days than that. I've read that support is the biggest issue and I would say they've gotten that covered. I would give them a big "thumbs up". . . . . . .

A cheap good host in my mind was saying that they seemed good...i never mentioned about their uptime or anything else...if you read it i did stress the support more than anything. I don't think it's misleading, but i'll change it if you wish. My review right now is on their support more than anything.

The ellipses are what gives it away. How many fake ids do these people have? :puke:

Software ........I have been with them since the first week of July actually and I never tried to mislead anyone.You will notice I always tried to state that I had only been with them for a short time and I also made everyone aware that my sites were not commercial sites.........I apologize to everyone for coming back to this board to thank you for your assistance in locating a decent host. I stand by my statements however .

You were all very helpful in my search and for that I thank you.
For me this issue is closed.

SEPTEMBER 22, 2002 UPDATE
I still haven't had any problems with the hosting, although i've had a lot of tech questions on my part. All of them were answered quickly by MSN. They were very helpful in helping me with database questions, as I am very new to it. I would stilll highly recommmend them.

Does Dot5 use Rackshack.net as their provider? Think I heard it somewhere.

Originally posted by easybyte
Does Dot5 use Rackshack.net as their provider? Think I heard it somewhere.

I think your talking about hostpacket

I'm sure I read something about it as well... it was in a thread, in which a member complained Dot5 were getting more impressions for their AD on WHT than other ads being displayed, just because they were RackShack customers.

The headsurfer himself added that if he'd known Dot5 were RS customers, they'd have got a discount on the ads.

Sorry about that my mistake they are on Rackshack

64.246.16.35


OrgName: Everyones Internet, Inc.
OrgID: EVRY

NetRange: 64.246.0.0 - 64.246.47.255
CIDR: 64.246.0.0/19, 64.246.32.0/20
NetName: EVRY-BLK-9
NetHandle: NET-64-246-0-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.EV1.NET
NameServer: NS2.EV1.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-10-05
Updated: 2002-04-15

TechHandle: RW172-ARIN
TechName: Williams, Randy
TechPhone: +1-713-400-5400
TechEmail: admin@ev1.net


They own alot of ip space :)

Originally posted by Myacen

They own alot of ip space :)

Sorry, but is that a good thing?

Could be;)

How modest Chris :D

I think EV1 owns those IP, not Chris/dot5.

Peter

Yea, RS owns the we only rent/lease

hmmm time for another update Oct 27

Still no problems. :) They upgraded their packages so they have more space and bandwidth for the same price, and after I asked them, they quickly bumped my limits to their new , better packages.

I find now that their packages are very good for the money and I haven't had any server problems since my last update. I still highly recommend them :)

Rafiki (Kiswahili) = Friend (English)

Did you mean to be objective from the start?

Lurleene, you know swahili?

Check sitepointforums.com. One of the posts there says that they are hosted at rackshack.

So...you've had a month or so with them - that's a worthless referral. Problems are likely to appear over the course of one or two years. Any host can maintain a short-term service - the good ones can make it long-term.

Btw - I checked the Dot5 homepage out of curiosity - and you know what - it's just another clone of the 100megs, Advanthost, RackEasy, HostRiot clone family. LOL!! Original web design, anyone??

The rackshack business...

Why would that be relevant at all to how Dot5 operate at WHT?

Originally posted by I, Brian
The rackshack business...

Why would that be relevant at all to how Dot5 operate at WHT?
Because Dot5 host at Rackshack and Rackshack own WHT :)

Be with at least 3 or 6 months before making comments. All these dot5 praises look very fishy.

Originally posted by I, Brian
The rackshack business...

Why would that be relevant at all to how Dot5 operate at WHT?
About as irrelevant as BTW'ing negative comments about their web site, eh? Speaking of worthless...

Okay, Okay I got it!
Dot 5 is the best thing since butter on popcorn and since finding out I could fry spam.

Originally posted by nvphone
Okay, Okay I got it!
Dot 5 is the best thing since butter on popcorn and since finding out I could fry spam.

Yeah! There's the spirit! :)

Fried spam is no good; but fried cheese is!

Originally posted by timechange
Fried spam is no good; but fried cheese is!

Fried cheese and pork chops??? Man you're gonna have some seriously clogged arteries! :)

ROFL lightnin, you made my day!

Now seriously, porkchops have to be lean.

On the subject of DOT5 - so that my posts are not TOO o/t:

Are they a raq reseller? The only thing I don't like is that they use Ensim as the panel and they don't offer SSH/telnet.

Originally posted by timechange
ROFL lightnin, you made my day!

Now seriously, porkchops have to be lean.

On the subject of DOT5 - so that my posts are not TOO o/t:

Are they a raq reseller? The only thing I don't like is that they use Ensim as the panel and they don't offer SSH/telnet.

lol...makes me think of that Simpsons episode where Marge thinks Homer is dead an puts a curse on the man who invented fried cheese...

and back on topic...

I know someone who hosts with dot5 and has shell access. :)

Originally posted by Fazel3
Lurleene, you know swahili?

Nilisoma Kiswahili (I studied Swahili) :D

Originally posted by Lurleene
Rafiki (Kiswahili) = Friend (English)

Did you mean to be objective from the start?

no i didn't know that :) thanks!!!

As for my review....

seeing as the company is still pretty new, my review is acurate and useful for anyone who is looking to go with dot5. I would caution them that yes, they are new, and problems may occur down the road, but so far so good. And so i recommend them b/c of a) cheap b) good service and support so far. Their cons? a) new company

my 2 cents.

I've been with dot5hosting for almost four months now, and the service, speed, and reliability has generally been excellent. I'm very happy with them overall.

Reliability hasn't been so good of late, though, with multiple (5+) instances of down time in the last week. No explanations either, which is annoying. Let's hope this is a temporary hiccup.

Originally posted by KakenBetaal
I've been with dot5hosting for almost four months now, and the service, speed, and reliability has generally been excellent. I'm very happy with them overall.

Reliability hasn't been so good of late, though, with multiple (5+) instances of down time in the last week. No explanations either, which is annoying. Let's hope this is a temporary hiccup.

That's great, and your site would be :confused:

PM me if you'd like the domain.

I'm getting very frustrated today as my site as been down for more than 2 hours during the busiest time of the day. Aaaaarrrrrrggggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I was with UK2.net, (yes, appalling I know), about their only asset was excellent reliability. I don't think I ever noticed any downtime on my site. Dot5hosting are swiftly falling by the wayside in my estimation. I can easily deal with a couple of instances of downtime once in a while, but this is getting to be just a little too much for my comfort factor.

Sure, I'm only running a niche site with maybe 11k pages and 900 ip's served per average day, but it's important to me and my users, and I've now got egg all over my face as a result.

Yup - my dot5hosting served site has been down for several hours as well, and no response. Ugh.

You made a recommendation about their service when your site was down for an hour already :confused:

Would you have your users judge you and your webhosting company on the basis of one incident (or a couple of related incidents)? Are you claiming that you would never have an hour's consecutive downtime on your service?

I'd prefer to watch a host's track record over a period of time. Dot5 have generally been good over the last four months, although these recent incidents were a significant dip in their service.

Well, it's been over 4 hours since the last two Dot5 members posted. Are their sites up now?

My site is up (now), but it could be because I'm on a different server than they are or whatever glitch Dot5 was experiencing is solved.

I signed up with them last month after lurking around here reading comments about all the hosts and thought Dot5Hosting sounded good.

As an ex-CW client, I'm wary about falling into that situation again. I don't think that's the case here, though they appear to be going through a growth phase. So I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and wait and see.

Yup, sites are up. There was a little hiccup with mysql, but all's online now. As you say, let's hope this is just a growth hiccup.

Well I am with dot5 about 4 and 1/2 months and have had no downtime today or otherwise.................and service and support are still excellent..............Must have been a particular server issue

I think you're right, Sparrow. There were other site owners on the dot5 forums saying just that.

Is it just me or is it alittle funny that most posts for dot5 come from members with really small post counts if any at all.

Does everyone remember that post that started with a praise for dot5 then the user said that he was put up to do it by DOT5 for free hosting? And that whole thread was removed by the mods.

I have seen a few Xfiles happen on WHT in my time but i had to talk to someone that knew what was going on. The information i gathered was that the user was contacted but never replied but the issue was left alone, never reposted etc.

In my own opinion (BOLD) saying this on behalf of many hosts on this board, DOT5 gets alot of special treatment on WHT and some might find it un fair and for the mature bunch of members here might find it against the old school spirit of WHT. At the end of the day we come to the conclusion that business always runs on one moto " Money talks and bull * walks " Like it or not WHT has become another business module. :)

Kind regards
Phillip

No X-files from me - I'm not a spoofer. I've no way of proving it to you, though. PM me for my domain, where you can check out my forums and the no. of posts I've made there.

My post count is low because I came here about 4 months ago, asked about a host. Got a recommendation for dot5, left here because I no longer needed a host and am NOW back because there are problems.

Dot5 knows I'm a valid user. I've gotten e-mails from them after they've read my posts here about my problems.

I just wish my server were up right now. :(

What do your forums have to do with anything exactly? anyway as i said in my post there is no point reapeating this over and over again.

My point is that I can show you I'm a real user. Why should I have a large post count here on WHT? I only have one main website and thus one webhost and little need to post on these forums. The only reason I came back here is that I found dot5hosting here, and thought it would be worth returning to give some feedback for other users.

You're basically implying that I'm either a spoofer or have something to gain by posting about dot5. Note that my feedback has been both positive and negative.

I wasn't paying attention before and now see you're a hosting provider. That does make your motivation much clearer. You may have a medium sized post count here, but any credibility that might give is wiped out by the fact you're a competitor.

I particularly noticed a couple of web hosts here that are quite professional and not only don't knock their competitors, they issued compliments about them where due. Were I to change hosts, I'd be choosing one of them. Based on the last two posts you've made in this thread, there's no chance I'll be looking at your service in the unlikely event dot5 fail to pull their socks up.

Unbelievable.

We sign up as a member here. We have to start somewhere, one post at a time.

My start and reason to register at all was to vote for a friend for MOTM at the Lounge (:wavey: susanna). The fact is I'm a client of Dot5 mostly because of what I read in this forum.

I was a client of CyberWings, too. Shall I bring up those tired threads just to up my count?

What difference does it make what our count is? I guess I should post tons in the Lounge so that I look more legit.

That post count thing is something the kiddos like to wave in your face like it's a talent. I still don't understand it...and don't care to.

I've only been with dot5 for 4 days. Fortunately, I'm not on the box that keeps going down. But I feel for those who are. It's nice they set up their own message board for users, but as of the lastest incidents of downtime, they've yet to say much other than "we're working on it". It's almost strange how quiet they are about it.

Hi Janet, good to see you posting here. Don't be put off by what people say about post counts etc, it just means that the members with high counts have less of a life. :D

The main problem in the Dot5/New member equation is that alot of people think that Dot5 signed up under many aliases to promote their cause. I think fair play to them if it's true because popularity at WHT is short lived. Any host that gets most of its clients here is destined for trouble - look at Aletia. They were favour of the month here for ages and experienced massive growth. But then the problems started and where do all the users run to? Yep, that's right - WHT. All of a sudden growrth stops as no-one is recommending them anymore.

I guess Dot5 haven't been in the industry long enough to learn from Aletia.

Most of the big post count members here are here for the interaction and the sport. It is good fun (in between the flaming and cussing ;)), but you won't see many advertising with big banners at WHT. Anyhow, the post count isn't important but the Joined date is a better gauge of experience, knowledge and power. :stickout:

Does everyone remember that post that started with a praise for dot5 then the user said that he was put up to do it by DOT5 for free hosting? And that whole thread was removed by the mods.

I have seen a few Xfiles happen on WHT in my time but i had to talk to someone that knew what was going on. The information i gathered was that the user was contacted but never replied but the issue was left alone, never reposted etc.
The user did not say they were "put up to do it by Dot5 for free hosting." See this is the problem with you people. You don't read the threads, then you warp what is posted into something that isn't then bitch about it. Now someone will read your post and 'remember' it a month from now and post about how Dot5 put this user up to posting. This was not the case, and was never what the user posted.

The user was contacted and told that the false review was removed from the forum. This is what we do every single day (remove false reviews from the forum). Often times these are posted by the hosts themselves, and they are warned. This happened to be by a user.

In my own opinion (BOLD) saying this on behalf of many hosts on this board, DOT5 gets alot of special treatment on WHT and some might find it un fair and for the mature bunch of members here might find it against the old school spirit of WHT. At the end of the day we come to the conclusion that business always runs on one moto " Money talks and bull * walks " Like it or not WHT has become another business module. :)
As you were told, I personally could give a rat's donkey who advertises on top of the forum. We have had advertisers who have been banned and/or ads pulled because of forum issues. I have removed promotion by past providers of the forum (the ones who sponsored the server and bandwidth for the site), and warned them. I suppose that company would have gotten an extra warning ;) -though luckily they understood the issue and I never had to address it again.

Whether you advertise or not, you will abide by the forum guidelines. The moderators all have to, you have to, advertisers have to. Everyone. It sure would be nice if bull * walked but certain hosts are intent on making their competiors look bad and reading into things that simply aren't there for some reason that is unknown to me.

Phillip, you asked me about this and I told you exactly what posting this would make you look like. You didn't listen.

Originally posted by Chicken

The user did not say they were "put up to do it by Dot5 for free hosting." See this is the problem with you people. You don't read the threads, then you warp what is posted into something that isn't then bitch about it. Now someone will read your post and 'remember' it a month from now and post about how Dot5 put this user up to posting. This was not the case, and was never what the user posted.


Chicken, that's very odd, because I too remember the user admitting he was coerced into making a post in return for free hosting. Shortly thereafter the thread was closed then removed. Not trying to start an argument here, its just what I clearly remember.

Well I have only been with dot5 less than a month and if I don't get a response to my questions from tech support by tomorrow I am switching! I am absolutely pissed at the level of difficulty I have had with trying to get a hold of their tech support! Not thrilled with the fact that there is no phone number to reach them at either. They are rarely on MSN and to get responses and trying to get them to email you back is a joke. I have assignments due this week and I need them to do things to the account so that I can get them done!

So anyone want to recommend a good web hosting service that has MySQL, SQL, JSP, and either telnet or SSH access? Oh yes and before I forget reliable tech support!

Thanks!

Glitr :angry:

Just to add I have been trying to contact them since the beginning of the week.

Yeah I am just a little pissed!

Glitr

I think we all know that Dot5 was asking for new clients to come and post reviews here at WHT. No big deal. The last time I checked with the United Nations, that wasn't an illegal activity. Nothing wrong with that. :)

They also advertise here and use Rackshack servers. No big deal there. I do hope that Robert gives them a discount either their advertising or server costs, maybe both. That's good business for both parties. Nothing wrong with that. :)

But to think that they get favourable treatment by Chicken and the other Mods, is laughable. Hardly think Chicken is going to be a lapdog for Robert and treat Dot5 any different than anyone else.

If anyone has solid evidence that Chicken does treat Dot5 more favourably because of their connection to Rackshack, then I guess they could post it, otherwise...........:)

I am also familiar with the incident where Chicken had the gall to sponsor WHT's sponsor back in the day.

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
I think we all know that Dot5 was asking for new clients to come and post reviews here at WHT. No big deal. The last time I checked with the United Nations, that wasn't an illegal activity. Nothing wrong with that. :)
Well, we all don't really know it. A couple people read something and interpreted a couple of the posts to mean one thing, while it didn't exactly say that. Then they posted it as fact, and now it is 'known' that they... (etc., etc., etc.)

Anyway.. enough on that.

Originally posted by Haze
Chicken, that's very odd, because I too remember the user admitting he was coerced into making a post in return for free hosting. Shortly thereafter the thread was closed then removed. Not trying to start an argument here, its just what I clearly remember.
The user did not admit he was coerced into making a post in return for free hosting. I'm sorry, but you do not clearly remember the posts.

This is what the user said in regards to the matter. At this point I'd like to apologize for anyone reading this thinking this thread was about a Dot5 hosting review. I'm sorry that this has degraded into yet another debate by other hosts on these same issues. Anyway, onto quotes... removed is anything talking about things other that this exact issue. She was booted, yadda, yadda, yadda, but this is mostly just the issue...

Originally posted by <removed>
ok..sorry..that was a fake testimonial..they offered me free web hosting for a review....
<snipping approx. 10 hosts posting the equivalent of, "AH-HA!"
Originally posted by <removed>
they deleted my account last night without letting me know and this morning they said because I've over used my quota..and that i was only given 1GB..

oh well..im hunting for another free host now..any takers?:D
An odd way to get good reviews one would think.
Originally posted by lightnin
How did they approach you?
Originally posted by <removed>
i approached them actually, i email them asking for a free host, and they asked what I can give them in return, i said maybe banner ad and some "good" reviews about their service, well..i didn't have any "real"experience with them yet so i made up the above testimonial.:blush: :blush: ..sorry...

Now, out of this, you clearly remember, "the user admitting he was coerced into making a post in return for free hosting." This is the problem. The posts do not say that. Not even close to that. Your interpretation might be that, but mine is this:

As hosts, you probably get a billion requests for free hosting. Users have offered to put banners on their site, and what ever else. They probably offer to write reviews about their experience.

That is what happened here. I don't think Dot5 expected this person to write a "good" review if it was undeserving, nor would you. You'd expect them to want to write a good review because you offer good services. In other words, they'd post the truth.

Does it even say at WHT? Nope. But again, we assume so and say, "...he was coerced into making a post..."

I do not feel that this thread shows what hosts have claimed it shows. I do not feel that Dot5 thought the user would just make up a glowing review without trying the services, and I also don't think that the master plan at Dot5 was to coerce this person to post in exchange for good, undeserving reviews.

The person who posted the review was, "hunting for another free host now..any takers"? - due to him being cut off without notice due to excessive use of the free account. They made up the review, the post was removed. Action was taken.

If you still feel you clearly remember, "the user admitting he was coerced into making a post in return for free hosting" then so be it. Part of what we have to do is make judgment calls, and my judgment differs from yours, and I've detailed why. If you aren't satisfied with the actions taken, you may take it up with Robert but I don't expect it to be posted to the forum again. If there's an issue, fine, but no more of these 'clearly remembered' accusation posts.

Originally posted by NexDog
I am also familiar with the incident where Chicken had the gall to sponsor WHT's sponsor back in the day.
Errrr... what? :confused:

Well, Dot5 did say that this guy was phoney as they never host for free and then someone pulled out a post by Dot5hosting offering to post someone for free in the requests forum.

There was a discrepancy. Not taking sides or anything, just an observation.

Originally posted by Chicken

Errrr... what? :confused:

I meant "warn". Sorry, long day. :D

Originally posted by NexDog
Well, Dot5 did say that this guy was phoney as they never host for free and then someone pulled out a post by Dot5hosting offering to post someone for free in the requests forum.

There was a discrepancy. Not taking sides or anything, just an observation.
Yes that is true, however the person who posted that (from Dot5) wasn't the same person who made the offer that was linked to. It is possible that this person did not know about that offer (and possible others). He was corrected by another member.

We get tons of reports and I really do try to see it from the perspective of those reporting or emailing in, but I won't always agree with you ('you' being those who email in). I think this is expected (as I can't imagine that my opinion and judgements would match every single other members' opinons and judgements).

Perhaps my perception was a little off, my appologies, but the post WAS removed, and if nothing wrong was done, then why was the post removed?

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
I think we all know that Dot5 was asking for new clients to come and post reviews here at WHT. No big deal. The last time I checked with the United Nations, that wasn't an illegal activity. Nothing wrong with that. :)

Actually I(and probably a few others) know nothing about Dot5 asking their customers to post reviews here. Was this something that happened recently or was this something Dot5 did when they first started their business?

Regarding "The fake Dot5 review thread" that was removed:
1) Did anyone ever prove that the guy actually had a site hosted by Dot5?
2) After he said his free hosting was terminated by Dot5 he posted a hosting request. Did anyone who offerered him hosting ever hear back from him?
3) Chicken did you check the guy's IP addr to see if he might have posted on WHT before under a different name?
4) Tony from Dot5 said that they didn't offer sponsored hosting. Somebody else posted a link to a message from Puggy in the request forum about free hosting from earlier this year. I assume Tony wasn't aware of all the things that Puggy might have done when he first started Dot5. I'm not sure if Dot5 still offers sponsored hosting but I did notice they had free hosting as a prize to a contest.

I don't think that thread proved much except that a lot of regulars here on WHT hate Dot5.

BTW, I have a low post count and only signed up recently on WHT, but I've been a lurker on and off for a few years.

Originally posted by Haze
...but the post WAS removed, and if nothing wrong was done, then why was the post removed?
The post was removed because it was a false review of a host. As I said, these get posted all the time, and we remove 'em nearly every day (sometimes a few times a day). The user was warned, though I don't know if they've posted since (they pretty much disappeared in the middle of that thread).

Originally posted by pcjunky
Actually I(and probably a few others) know nothing about Dot5 asking their customers to post reviews here. Was this something that happened recently or was this something Dot5 did when they first started their business?

Regarding "The fake Dot5 review thread" that was removed:
hear back from him?
3) Chicken did you check the guy's IP addr to see if he might have posted on WHT before under a different name?
Again, I posted those posts as well one time, I suppose you could search for them, but it was more or less the same thing. They were interpreted to mean things by various people. The posts themselves showed very little to support the statements made on the forum by others.

Edit: I found the thread, same discussion more or less, same people.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71755

Re: 3) There are 5 people who posted from the same IP range (not same IP), a university in Australia. All seem unrelated to the thread starter.

Geeezz people take a chill pill.

This whole issue has been hashed and rehashed to death I don't think Chicken has shown any special treatment to Dot5.

Besides history tells us those that build their business mainly on WHT are bound to crash and burn for some reason.

Call it the WHT curse if you will, so everyone chill and hope it does not happen to you. :D

I've only been with dot 5 for a week.. my site was down about the first 2 days and is sluggish every so often now. I have no php/mysql, and the only answers you get is "We're working on the problem", or "Your site should be working now".

It's been this way on and off sinse I signed up. When and if the problem gets solved, i'm now nervous about thinking what it's going to be like later on down the road if my site grows and something like this happens again.. appearently it's been like this for a few weeks now.

I see the support staff sitting idle on the forums, and don't respond to fast growing complaints by other customers. All they and myself want is a detailed explanation of what's going, but so far nothing.

Yeah I havn't been with them long enough to see any good things happening.. but this isn't something you want to go
through with your host when you just signed up. I'm just getting a bit frustrated.

I'm somewhat new to WHT but I have seen countless amounts of posts regarding Dot5. Regarding the IP address to check if the posts were being made by the same person, seems kinda unfair that it would come down to having to investigate such things. I have two usernames here (one which I no longer use), does that mean anything I say would be false? or that my credibility would be questioned? If I would have signed up with Dot5 instead of my current host, would I too be subjected to being interrogated in finding out if I was posting "fake" threads? :eek: I just think it's kinda sad that a Dot5 user would have to take so much "poopoo" from posting a review here on WHT.

On there other hand, if these Dot5 users are so "unsatisified" with the services so far at Dot5 why not change? It's easier said then done, yes I know..but no one forced these people to hand over their cash and credit card numbers to Dot5 and sign up for their hosting. There are plenty of good hosting providers here on the forum. You cant look around for a host in a month and then expect to find your "soul mate" host lol it doesnt happen like that. I too was looking into Dot5 for hosting sometime ago, and every time I contacted them via instant messanger or email, they responded within reasonable amout of time - they were always very nice & polite. As far as Chicken being more favorable to Dot5..grow up! Chicken is doing his job as a moderator, and if it seems he "sticks up" for Dot5, it must be because most of the threads that are under the microscope for being fake threads are about Dot5. I would think that if this was happening to another host, he'd do the same for them as well.

Like I said, I'm fairly new to WHT but that's just my very humble opinion :) then again, I dont have a high post count so guess my opinion doesn't matter huh? ;)lol have a good day everyone! :D

PixelOptik: I think the rules say you can only have one username.

I asked about the IP address because I suspected the guy who started that thread was trying to make Dot5 look bad. He didn't stick around to answer questions and prove that he was actually hosted by Dot5, so I assume he was just a troll trying to cause trouble.

Dajo77 and glitr: Do you know if you're on one of their new servers?

Originally posted by pcjunky

Dajo77 and glitr: Do you know if you're on one of their new servers? [/B]

I'm not sure.. would assume so since I havn't been with them that long, and I know they suspended the signups for a day or 2(that I know of).

I'm really not out to make dot5 look really bad, I joined because i've read a lot of good things about them. I probably just came at a very bad time. I'm sure all hosts have really bad times also.

I'm just a bit upset I havn't been able to really work on anything because of what's going on. While they seem extremly nice and eager to help, they don't get very indepth to why there was a problem and what caused the problem. I may not understand the problems.. but it would it sure as hell will make you feel alot better if they filled you in, and help you understand and know that they are trying very hard to fix it.

Yes, all hosts will have problems with servers. There is the constant battle to keep them updated and patched against latest security expoits, the latest being a BIND advisory today.

Also, a host is at it's user's mercy. Too many db connects, bad scripts, vulnerable software - all can bring a server down and there is only so much a host can do apart from monitor the server heavily and catch offenders in action and remove bad scripts and databases.

But you are correct, communication is very important and sometimes a host all get so entangled in solving problems that they forget to keep everyone informed. Dot5 are still relatively new and around about now is when problems start occurring and the real learning also starts. They will get there, I'm sure. :)

Originally posted by pcjunky
PixelOptik: I think the rules say you can only have one username.


Well, like I mentioned I dont even use the previous username so hopefully one of the moderators would be kind enough to help me remove it. I do apolgoze, I didnt see the "one account" rule :bawling:

Hi Laurence! A friendly face in the crowd.

Sorry for not responding to you sooner, but I had to retreat to a friendlier forum for solace. Thanks for the reassurances.

I'm on a fairly new server, I think, and I don't have a site monitor in place on my webpage to know how many times it's been down, but I do know it's been down at least once in the past month.

I don't have too much time or material invested in my website yet, because I still have a few more things to wrap up, like securing a payment processor. But I do feel for those people who have put up their entire website *and* have paid for six months to a year in advance for services. When a host advertises XX% uptime, you have a reasonable concern when that doesn't occur. (But now I wonder how much truth there is in such claims, but that's another topic.)

After my experience with CW, I decided to pay month-to-month just in case something goes terribly wrong with this host. I would do the same with any other host, preferring to err on the side of caution.

As such I have neither negative comments nor compliments to give about them. I've only been with them a month and I don't think it puts me in any position to say one way or the other about them. Although I was annoyed that my help desk query was responded to with a non-answer, IMO.

I've been advised elsewhere to secure another host as a backup. I think I'll wait and see. As you said a couple of posts up, a host just starting in the business will experience some problems. Fast growth will definitely compound it.

Janet, 99.5%, 99.9% and 100% uptimes are flung around this industry and mean nothing. No host can guarantee uptime - believe me. ;)

I ask any host to refute what I say. You can't guarantee something you can't control unless you put ridiculous limits on what your customers can do. If we said that you are only allowed to use these CGIs and these PHP scripts then we could control that aspect.

But we also can't control all the hackers and crackers that spend their lives trying to exploit Apache or OpenSSL or BIND or whatever. Many times I see uptime reports for the last year that say 100% - what BS. It's all marketing. I mean you've never rebooted a server?

As long as a host has good admins and they know how to monitor a server then all the nasty things that can happen can be kept to a minimum. Of course your experience with CW is another variable in the equation. But if you are careful, it should be easy to factor out scam artists - just be realistic!

And don't give up on Dot5 or any host so quickly as everyone wrestles with the dramas I mentioned above, it's a constant battle. :)

Originally posted by NexDog
Janet, 99.5%, 99.9% and 100% uptimes are flung around this industry and mean nothing. No host can guarantee uptime - believe me. ;)
Another important point about uptime. Do these hosts who provide uptime guarantees mean server uptime, httpd uptime or what do they mean?

The server could well be up for 100 days but apache could be down for 99 of those. There could also be network problems.

We don't offer uptime guarantees simply because the internet is so unpredictable and a very new and unstable platform (generally speaking). We also can't control a lot of the factors that keep the sites up, such as bandwidth providers going down etc. If any customer is unhappy, they can have a refund. No problems.

Uptime guarantees are just an advertising gimmick and we aren't in that game...

Even if "no host can guarantee uptime," I've seen quite a few claim that. There are people who take front page words at face value. They expect the host will honor their words.

If the host cannot, or even remotely think they can't honor promises made, they shouldn't put it in writing.

I realize there are a lot of factors that could cause downtime. Being in over your heads in manpower and/or expertise to deal with situations should not be one of them. I don't know what's happening with Dot5 and they're not saying anything, yet.

But I won't be quitting them any time soon.

I have my site automatically monitored now. So we'll see.

Re: CW - I didn't know. Who knew what to look for? Again, it's those Words that you put your trust in. Unless it's a publicly-traded company whose books you can look at (and know what danger signs to look for), it's basically a crapshoot. But then, this is what this forum is useful for, eh?

Jan, three dollars a year hosting plans should have given it away. ;)

Chris, damn fine post and glad someone agrees with me.

Originally posted by NexDog
Jan, three dollars a year hosting plans should have given it away. ;)


OK, you're right there.

I know better now not to try to find a bargain like *that*.