we have pulled our advertising campaigns until late sept

many print advertisers also doing the same

any thoughts?

The thought never occured to me. I'm a bit lost in the issue. Why would you do such a thing?

Hmmm, is the USA just hell-bent on having a recession?

First I've heard of this. And, I too, don't really see the point.

I don't see why either. On the other hand, I'll tend not to be happy with businesses that appear to exploiting the events of a year ago in their advertising. I'd say the best approach is to go ahead and run whatever advertising you're normally running. What happened last September 11 has nothing to do with your (that's "you" in general, not any particular participant in this thread) business, so don't try to win my patronage by creating a connection.

I've replaced all my banners for 9/11 with a rememberance banner.

edit: so that i dont get asked this question - the banner is not linked to anywhere, just displayed for that 3 day period.

I'm Russian/Canadian and while I won't offer my views on the "War On Terrorism" in the United States of America, business continues on 9-11. It's not a holiday, especially if you're an American. It's just another Wednesday here in the office.

I think companies shutting things down on 9/11 is exactly what terrorists want to see happen...

9/11 is going to suck. The city will be flooded by tourists and all that crap. People still come just to look. It gets annoying.

I don't see the purpose either. It makes no sense to do exactly what they want us to do. We can't live in fear. We need to move on and do what needs to be done.

get over it already.

As long as you do not use 9-11 as part of your ad - I do not see a reason why you should pull the plug.

The Fish

Originally posted by akash
I've replaced all my banners for 9/11 with a rememberance banner.

edit: so that i dont get asked this question - the banner is not linked to anywhere, just displayed for that 3 day period.

Good Idea. I think that's what everybody should do :agree:.

Originally posted by MultiVol
get over it already.

Perhaps we should come kill off a few of your family members and tell you not to care 1 year later, I mean it's just a few of your good friends and close family... no big deal.

As for the original thread, I think a certain amount of remembrance is in order... things like changing a website theme, making a few ads show some sort of memory message or similar acts is a nice thing. But, at the same time 9/11 was an attempt to stop American and western ways, stopping your business for that day doesn't make sense... that’s not to say it gives in the terrorists or any of that nonsense but it does mean the economies which are already hurting hurt more, you loose money to someone who doesn’t want to take the day off and that only serves to hurt you more. Personally I'll be on a plane headed to NY for my annual trip so clearly I won't be out working. I would urge people to do what they want to remember the day but also remember that life continues on and working, advertising, etc... is what life is all about.

Remember the past, work towards the future... or something.

Originally posted by TedS


Perhaps we should come kill off a few of your family members and tell you not to care 1 year later, I mean it's just a few of your good friends and close family... no big deal.

As for the original thread, I think a certain amount of remembrance is in order... things like changing a website theme, making a few ads show some sort of memory message or similar acts is a nice thing. But, at the same time 9/11 was an attempt to stop American and western ways, stopping your business for that day doesn't make sense... that’s not to say it gives in the terrorists or any of that nonsense but it does mean the economies which are already hurting hurt more, you loose money to someone who doesn’t want to take the day off and that only serves to hurt you more. Personally I'll be on a plane headed to NY for my annual trip so clearly I won't be out working. I would urge people to do what they want to remember the day but also remember that life continues on and working, advertising, etc... is what life is all about.

Remember the past, work towards the future... or something.


well said :)

Originally posted by TedS


Perhaps we should come kill off a few of your family members and tell you not to care 1 year later, I mean it's just a few of your good friends and close family... no big deal.



maybe I should tell you not to care about your familys already dead ones :)

no big deal :cool:

Originally posted by TedS
Personally I'll be on a plane headed to NY for my annual trip so clearly I won't be out working.

You make anual trips on 9/11?

Originally posted by MultiVol
get over it already.

maybe I should tell you not to care about your familys already dead ones


Although I don't like to get off-topic, this so royally pissed me off that I'm going to.

First, of all MutiVol I can only hope your not an American because I'd be mortified to consider you a fellow citizen of the US. Although I do agree that closing your business is not the thing to do "getting over" the death of thousands of innocent lives is not something most human beings can accomplish in one year.

Second, as for your second comment, if what you mean is forget about those that have passed-on then you are obviously one of the most uncaring individuals I've ever met.

I can only hope that you are some ignorant 14 year old kid, that has no clue of the impact that something like that can cause on a society. If you are an adult, I'd highly recommend going to Ground Zero and mentioning that "get over it" comment to the people there on Sept. 11. Let's see how you feel after that.

Originally posted by comphosting
I'd highly recommend going to Ground Zero and mentioning that "get over it" comment to the people there on Sept. 11. Let's see how you feel after that.

And as New Yorker, Id like to tell you to not come here. :rolleyes: Tourists suck. It bother me that people come to G0 as a tourist attraction. Tourists in general piss me off.

And as a New Yorker with family in the FDNY, NYPD, and the NYNJ Port Authority, and as a firefighter myself, I would like to tell you get over it.

"Patriots, loving America since 9/11"

Originally posted by Acronym BOY


And as New Yorker, Id like to tell you to not come here. :rolleyes: Tourists suck. It bother me that people come to G0 as a tourist attraction. Tourists in general piss me off.

And as a New Yorker with family in the FDNY, NYPD, and the NYNJ Port Authority, and as a firefighter myself, I would like to tell you get over it.

"Patriots, loving America since 9/11"

You live in the largest city in the United States of America, and tourism pisses you off? Well if you are a firefighter, do me a favor and go to the houses of the firefighters that died and tell there spouses and children to get over it too, would you?

Honestly I figured that something like this would change the attitudes of people like you, and it's even more sad that you are not only a New Yorker but a FIREFIGHTER and you care so little for people outside your little bubble.

People go to Ground Zero to see what TERRORISTS did to our country, and yet you seem to think that no one should be allowed? You, my friend, are proof that no matter what happens some people have their heads so far up there asses that can see how other people feel.

To avoid this thread closing since it is off-topic this will be my last post on this issue.

Originally posted by comphosting
You live in the largest city in the United States of America, and tourism pisses you off? Well if you are a firefighter, do me a favor and go to the houses of the firefighters that died and tell there spouses and children to get over it too, would you?

Honestly I figured that something like this would change the attitudes of people like you, and it's even more sad that you are not only a New Yorker but a FIREFIGHTER and you care so little for people outside your little bubble.

People go to Ground Zero to see what TERRORISTS did to our country, and yet you seem to think that no one should be allowed? You, my friend, are proof that no matter what happens some people have their heads so far up there asses that can see how other people feel.

To avoid this thread closing since it is off-topic this will be my last post on this issue.

I see you are one of those patriots since 9/11/01. Nice to meet yet another.

I do tell them to get over it. You can not spend your life grieving. You must get back up and go on living. You dont grieve forever.

I have gone to mroe funerals in one month than you have your entire life. :rolleyes: I care for people, but you can not spend your life grieving.

People come to G0 as a tourist attraction. If you listen to the radio in NY, you will hear many many NYers agree, that G0 isnt a tourist attraction.

Pay attention to the parts I bolded for you.

From the BBC:

It is the hottest ticket in town - a free pass to view the ruins of the World Trade Center in lower Manhattan.

Almost 5,000 people come each day to a specially built viewing platform at the edge of Ground Zero to catch a glimpse of the ruins of the twin towers.

But relatives of the dead and missing say they are deeply offended by the platform.

It is not a tourist attraction - this is a tragedy and a lot of people don't treat it that way.

They think it encourages a ghoulish form of tourism at a site many of them still regard as an open grave.

"It is supposed to be a sacred place now," says one woman who lost her daughter in the 11 September attacks.

"My child's body is all over that place."

Many local residents too are unhappy about the thousands of visitors who they say disrupt their lives just as they are trying to rebuild their community.

"We are treated like a freak show," says Janice Cahalane who has lived in the shadow of the World Trade Center for 10 years.


"We had people come to our apartment and ask us to view the damage in our apartment," she told the BBC.

"It is disgusting. It is not a tourist attraction - this is a tragedy and a lot of people don't treat it that way."

Since opening in December, the five-metre high platform has been praised by thousands of visitors.

Many of them say they are deeply moved after seeing the devastation caused by last year's attacks.

Others go there to have their picture taken.

Last week the authorities started issuing free tickets to ease the congestion at the platform where people used to queue for hours.

More platforms planned...

Every ticket, which allows visitors 30 minutes on the platform, gets taken up every day, and there are plans to build three additional viewing platforms.

But the negative reaction among some of the victims' families and local residents shows how difficult it remains for New York officials to balance the conflicting demands and emotions at the site.

An additional problem are the souvenir stalls near the viewing platform.

There have been reports about hawkers at Ground Zero pushing costly souvenir miniatures of the World Trade Center and falsely claiming that the proceeds of the sale would help victims of the attacks.

The BBC's Jane Standley in New York says profiting from people's grief was not what city officials had in mind when they opened the platform.

They hoped struggling businesses around the site would get a boost.

But so far the visitors have only helped the souvenir sellers.

And the question remains whether the platform is the right way to remember the victims.

Try alos here:

These days, ground zero smells like a fairground. The acrid chemical stench that poisoned downtown Manhattan for months has dissipated, and in its place are the summertime scents of hot dogs, cotton candy, roasting nuts and shish kabob, all competing to tempt the hordes of visitors to New York's newest blockbuster tourist attraction.

According to the New York Times, 3.6 million people will visit ground zero this year. There's no longer much to look at -- the expanse where the twin towers once stood is now just a vast construction site -- but people keep coming, disgorged by tour buses that idle nearby. There are giddy high school students in foam Statue of Liberty hats, dour families squinting under visors that read "Ground Zero NYC," religious groups including, on a recent visit, a few dozen Jews for Jesus in matching fluorescent orange T-shirts, middle-aged men staring intently into their camcorders and young guys strutting topless in the summer sun. Last Saturday one woman leaned into her husband and seemed, for a moment or two, to tear up, but mostly people seemed to be enjoying themselves in the perfunctory, listless way of tourists everywhere.

Some people, perhaps many, visit ground zero to pay their respects, to commune with history through the sight of charred real estate, to get a sense of the enormity of what happened. Yet the atmosphere at ground zero is nearly devoid of somber reverence. It feels like just another sentimental landmark, a place for people to get their picture taken so they can tell the folks back home they were there. Amid the brightly dressed crowds, one senses that for those who didn't lose anyone, some inevitable American alchemy has transformed the attacks into entertainment.

Or how about this:

Downtown Manhattan, for a short period of time a ghost town, has become as crowded as ever. As I struggle to push my way through the masses, I realize that the site of the Sept. 11 attacks has tragically become a place where people from all over the country come to gawk. This is not only disrespectful to the families of the victims, but is also a hindrance to all those attempting to return to their daily lives.

Last December, an observation deck was opened up near Ground Zero. Each day, 5,500 tickets are handed out to all those who wish to come. As a result, the site has become a commercial attraction, as is obvious from the street vendors selling vulgar World Trade Center memorabilia for profit. What¹s even worse is that people buy into this shameless commercialism, and in doing so, change the environment from a memorial to a mall.

While those who visit the area offer the excuse of closure, what really draws crowds is morbid curiosity. It is not closure that the hordes of visitors seek, but rather a desire to view the grotesque devastation. This is inappropriate and tasteless, just as taking pictures at a wake would be.

Instead of burdening the people of Lower Manhattan and the men and women who work day and night to restore the city, people should show restraint in visiting the site. Show your support, but through other means. Instead of taking pictures, hand out ribbons to honor those who lost their lives. For closure, attend a vigil or service in their memory. Do not come and turn this into a tourist attraction.

Originally posted by comphosting

I can only hope that you are some ignorant 14 year old kid

LOL, that is the best statement I ever heard.

I like how you use ignorant

edit: to hash.

As a born and bred New York City resident, I can offer this: We generally find tourists a nuisance. However, tourists who come to gawk and snap photos of where friends of mine (no family, thank God) were killed are a lot more than the normal 'in the way' tourists. Then they buy those tshirts from some scumbag who is actually low enough to use this situation to turn a fast tax-free dollar. The whole thing is sickening.

9/11 happened. Nothing we can do to change it. I will do my best to keep 9/11/02 the same as any other day. It'll just be a lot harder to force myself to forget what I've been trying to forget for the last year of my life.

And the opinions that have been expressed should be enough to give you the general picture...