Hi just thought i would share after 3 months of trying my company is finally number one in google for the key words australian host.

Yippeeeeeee!!:D :D :D

Mind sharing your secret? please do..

;)

Can help you out for an unlimited low cost ;)

You must have some kind of secret meta tags ;)


/me goes off to look at Mart's meta tags.

We've got the first few pages for "aussie hosts" until those darn homestay programs kick in. :)

Here's another tool to have some fun with:

http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/default.htm

Cheers

Gary

hehehehe,

The hits are coming thick and fast as well!!

love it

Did you hire a SEO?

No. I have been doing it for a few years for another company and have that in the top 10 of all the major search engines for the keywords australian colocation

Well done. We're celebrating too, as we just cracked a number one spot for our site under 'automated hosting';

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=automated+hosting&btnG=Google+Search

Well done mate ...... I am amazed the amount of hits / sign ups it is brining it!

It makes a nice change being at number 1, certainly increases the traffic quite considerably.

Here's to the Aussies :)

I could do with some of that google stuff too Marts!! Send me an e-mail ;)

So you would recommend putting the work in?

Its a serious question as I know how much work can go into getting a high place with good keywords and may get around to starting at some point. I don't want to bother though if the signup/hit rate doesn't get noticably higher because of it though :)

// well done btw aswell :)

I've never really bothered with search engines due to that fact... the only reason they could probably find me is if they actually put in "Chewnet" in the search field... ...but Marts inspires me, and I wouldn't hesitate to get out my wallet and sort something out with him. :)

Hi Marts,

Congratulations!!!
Can we share your secret, how you have made it possible.

You can do a few simple things... use meta-tags properly, use keywords in heading-tags, use keywords in image-names and alt-tags.

The company I work for comes up #3 on google, and the two in front are schools, not publishers, like the company I work for, so I guess that makes us #1 in our field.;)

seriously, where are the meta tags?
don't see any

Mine or Marts? To see the website for the company I work for, go to www.maxlogic.se and the meta-tags are at the top of the page between the head-tags.

its not just metas though, its a combination of EVERYTHING, content, image names, titles etc.. I really don't know enough about this one to comment tbh, but I would be really interested to see what could be done for my site to get it listed well in google. :)

i did a search for ".net webhosting" on google.. eraserver.net comes up, but no meta tags whatsoever

Just about to hit the town, will do some explaining tommorow

Thats good to hear. :D

cool, thanks

We've had a number 1 on google for quite some time. :blush:









Well, okay, it's for "warez underage" :rolleyes: But, hey! We're #1. :D

Congrats!

TO all others that wonder... I know a submission guy who can do Top10 places np

www.handsubmit.com

All my clients that used it are ranked top.

Originally posted by anantatman
seriously, where are the meta tags?
don't see any And don't need any. Google doesn't use meta keywords in ranking, and only uses meta description if there's no other text on the page.

Congratulations Marts, on ranking well with your goal, but... not all that competitive a term, is it? The phrase "australian host" doesn't even appear on most of the top 20 sites that are returned for the query, so just the fact that you do use it prominently in your title is probably enough.

Good job, but no one should think that they'll be able to get that kind of positioning for "web host" or something similar so easily.

Originally posted by combs
Hi Marts,

Congratulations!!!
Can we share your secret, how you have made it possible.
The "secret" with google is keyword relevance and link popularity. I would suggest you checkout Mak at http://Makrobicz.com. That bloke is freaky with search engines. We worked together on a project ages ago and he's an absolute whiz. He won't come cheap though...

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
The "secret" with google is keyword relevance and link popularity. Yeah, that's basically it. Marts' index page, though, has a PageRank of 5 (basically Google's measure of link pop) which is just about average.

And "Keyword relevance" is kind of elusive -- figuring what Google, or any other source, considers to be the ideal ways to use keywords is the heart of the "secret." In other words, "keyword relevance" does not necessarily mean the same thing as "use your keywords a lot."

But the foundation is really built on figuring the best keywords to use... and if he's getting good traffic out of this ranking, that's exactly what Marts has done. The best route to success in free search engines is to find terms that are relevant to your site, that people actually search on, and for which there aren't already many sites targetting and optimizing for.

We're getting up those listings... we've got a brilliant guy working for us too ;)

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
We're getting up those listings... we've got a brilliant guy working for us too Hmm... And my seo company is working with one WHT-member host. We should all have a contest -- exchange our target keywords and see who wins! :)

Ok... I'm up for it. :D

Round One.

"Professional Reseller Plans"

Yeah I think its about time to find one of those SEO nerds and pay him a lot to make us a lot hehe :)

is this some kind of trap to misguide. I want to promote my website, and i am willing to pay. So can anybudy share the secret.

Well as far as I'm concerned, Webby, the secret's in your second sentence: be willing to pay! ;)

But no, there are no traps or misinformation in this thread. The path to at least decent position in search engines is simple, you need three things: content, content, and content.

Sites with little text are nearly impossible to place well (excluding the approach of buying positions). If you have a good amount of text content, that can be worked to focus on particular keywords. So you need to be able to figure out which search terms/keywords are worth focusing on. Usually this will be something that people will actually search for, but for which there aren't already a large number of well-optimized sites fighting over. In some business sectors optimized sites are rare, in others everybody is doing a good job on the best keywords already.

So come up with your keywords and then work your text and other on-page elements (heading, doc titles, alt tags, etc.) around them. Don't spam.

These days, you need incoming links in order to rank well. Stay away from link farms or any artificial ways of creating links, though. Don't spam. But here again, your content helps: if you have good, useful content, other sites will link to you.

There are a lot of advanced nuances: theming, PageRank flow, directory structures, cloaking/selective page delivery (don't spam), and on and on... but the basics really are aren't that complicated or mysterious. On the other hand, they are a lot of work both to do and to stay on top of (things do change quickly, and probably 80% of the seo sites I look at have some outdated information), so that's why good, effective seo consultants and firms tend not to work cheap.

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
Round One.

"Professional Reseller Plans" Oh, come on, I thought we'd use phrases that people actually will search for. If I take my client down this path I want them to get some traffic out of it!

How about a phrase with a cluttered playing field -- that one appears on a total of only three sites in the entire Google index. Not exactly competitive -- it looks like something out of the "we guarantee top positioning" seo playbook! :D

Originally posted by JayC
Oh, come on, I thought we'd use phrases that people actually will search for.

"aussie hosts" ?

Cheers

Gary

Ok - I cheated a little. Not too hard for those words :)

What, considering our target market, would you consider 'good' words to target?

MAtt

ive talked with one of the google engineer's google runs of the title of your page more then it does the meta tags. dont take my word for it try it

And "Keyword relevance" is kind of elusive

I belive this is one of the keys. Choose words that match your target market, sure these term will get less hits then web hosts, or other key terms but it is bringing in over 90 hits a day through google, so we are very happy with this.

Title and links must be relavent for google. I have never advertised these web sites.

Otherwise how to explain 4 of my web sites get the 1st 8 spots on google for 'mcdba directory' 3 of which are not related to mcdba but most are directories?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=mcdba+directory

Damn Im on google but no were near number one:bawling: :bawling:

Originally posted by JMD
Damn Im on google but no were near number one After just a quick glance, some hints (or some ways to avoid a good Google ranking): splash pages, redirects, little text content (and very little that isn't built on words that are very common on the web), validate your html (for example, check out the title on the forum's main page).

Congratulations :) Wouldn't we all love to be in your shoes right now! Sigh:erm:

hehe yes we are loving it

Get to cut some of the budget we saved for advertising now!

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
What, considering our target market, would you consider 'good' words to target? Hey, what is this... the Free Keyword Research Forum now? Somebody just paid me to have that question answered!

I can't even enter the contest with the keywords we're using. Damn non-disclosure agreement! ;)

Originally posted by Marts
Hi just thought i would share after 3 months of trying my company is finally number one in google for the key words australian host.

Yippeeeeeee!!:D :D :D

Care to elaborate? When i type web hosting as the keyword in Google i get "Netfirms, free web hosting for small business as being the number 1".

key words australian host

Ozz <--- North Ryde, Sydney!

Oh Australian Host, thats different. I thought you were first as in first when i type "Web hosting or webhosting" Now if you were first when typing these keywords man you would have it made!

Yep

I will be working on that next :)

And I will get there :)

ooooh. Looking forward to it! :D

Originally posted by Marts
I will be working on that next :)

And I will get there :) Good luck! It's quite a different thing:

australian host (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22australian+host%22) returns "Results 1 - 10 of about 857."

So, in attaining #1, you've beaten 856 pages (a few less; some of those are also yours) that contain that term (and, far easier, any pages that contain those words but on which they do not appear as a phrase).

To get to #1 for web hosting (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22web+hosting%22), you'll need to beat "about" 2,129,999.


(By the way, looking at that result page for "australian host" there's one clear reason why the number one listing is in that position -- so don't rest on your laurels!)

Originally posted by JayC
After just a quick glance, some hints (or some ways to avoid a good Google ranking): splash pages, redirects, little text content (and very little that isn't built on words that are very common on the web), validate your html (for example, check out the title on the forum's main page).

Thanks JayC

But being a rookie at this I'm not sure what you mean by

1)validate my html???

2) Splash pages?? If this is flash I don't have that on my forum.

Thanks for any help

Originally posted by JayC
Hmm... And my seo company is working with one WHT-member host. We should all have a contest -- exchange our target keywords and see who wins! :)

Count me in :)

This all leads to a very dopey question:

how does one find out one's Google PageRank for a particular site? I've looked all over and can't find it anywhere.

Originally posted by TheGAME1264
This all leads to a very dopey question:

how does one find out one's Google PageRank for a particular site? I've looked all over and can't find it anywhere.

Google tool bar is the easist way to get a websites overall page rank.