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View Full Version : Cut and paste jobs
porcupine 08-28-2002, 03:03 AM Ok people,
I know the forum rules are basically set in the requests forum to prevent massive cut and paste jobs, but they don't seem to be working particularly well,
I notice a lot of people revising their posts, but not modifying the first post and going "hey, you! didn't you bother to read the post?!" but how can anyone be reasonably expected to read entire posts when some people are copying half their webpages to the threads?
Whats everyones opinion on this? It's becoming an eye sore if you ask me (now that they're using larger fonts, and colors), for example (and yes, i am narrowing *YOU* out, live with it :D):
- Wiseonline - BY FAR THE WORST! took over 5 pages!(http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69870)
- Bigshow911 (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70286)
- Synthetic (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70267)
- Thetech (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70267)
- Tribby (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70267)
- Semaj (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70114)
I picked anything that took more then 1 full page on 1152x864 resolution, but it's been driving me UP THE WALLS! has this been annoying the heck out of everyone else too, or is it just me? I know i was told not to quote people as much when i was posting more because i was making too much extra junk in the threads (which seemed fair when i thuoght about it, poor dialup users), but i mean this is 20x worse, at least my quotes had some relavence! :)
Theres dozens that had 3/4 of a page to 9/10 of a page of stuff i obviously didn't include but like listing the major features of CPanel in a thread is just a BAD IDEA! double spacing your post... you're not in grade 11 anymore, you should be :uzi: shot!
Opinions? Am i overboard? Dont know, but it's making me less and less inclined to go to reply to the requests forum when i have to scroll 20 pages, or run into someone wanting cyberwings prices! :bawling: If you ask me, a few things as of recent are hurting WHT as a community.
JSpired 08-28-2002, 03:53 AM I don't think you're overboard at all. I'm in total agreement with you. There are several posters who cut and paste the same material for every single request. Is it wrong? I don't know. Annoying? Yes!
edude 08-28-2002, 04:00 AM Who cares :stickout
porcupine 08-28-2002, 04:00 AM edude: anyone who tries to read the thread? Anyone who DOESEN'T cut and paste? :D
edude 08-28-2002, 04:02 AM Yes but most people who are asking for offers only do so once :D
Synthetic 08-28-2002, 04:08 AM I don't think cut-n-paste jobs are "wrong," as long as they include a plan offering that matches the thread creators requirements.
Of course, there is some unessesary commentary included in some offers, I suppose.
I mean, I'm thinking that as long as the thread creator is fine with what's posted, there is no problem. (These are meant to be offers directed solely towards the poster, correct?) I've even had some people PM me requesting that I pose MORE information in my posts. Strange..? :eek:
But maybe there SHOULD be some further restrictions implemented. I'm not too fond of some of the offers posted, and that includes some of my own. (Page scrolling does get annoying, yes.:D)
But how would we do this? Restrict offers to include 4 sentences max, plus brief account and payment details? - What?
SoftWareRevue 08-28-2002, 04:13 AM I would rather see informative copy/paste posts than them durned "Look at http://stupidhost.com/stupidplan" page posts.
JSpired 08-28-2002, 04:15 AM Edude, you do make a valid point. Requests for hosting usually come from a poster once. Sythetic is also right on in the fact that posts "should" be tailored for the person requesting hosting. That said though, some posts do trail on f-o-r-e-v-e-r and many are cut-and-paste jobs that don't reflect any attempt to match what the poster has asked for. They're nothing more than cut-and-paste jobs. Informative, thorough posts are great. I don't think that's what porcupine was referring to though.
clocker1996 08-28-2002, 04:23 AM SWR, why do you have a dash in your name for your title
did you put that yourself ?
lol i thought dash meant user is banned
I hope swr is banned, i mean.... not banned :P
edude 08-28-2002, 04:23 AM WOW!
/me is shocked!
Its the first time someone has ever told me i made a valid point!
/me faints...
Originally posted by WiredDog
Edude, you do make a valid point. Requests for hosting usually come from a poster once. Sythetic is also right on in the fact that posts "should" be tailored for the person requesting hosting. That said though, some posts do trail on f-o-r-e-v-e-r and many are cut-and-paste jobs that don't reflect any attempt to match what the poster has asked for. They're nothing more than cut-and-paste jobs. Informative, thorough posts are great. I don't think that's what porcupine was referring to though.
porcupine 08-28-2002, 04:23 AM Originally posted by Synthetic
I don't think cut-n-paste jobs are "wrong," as long as they include a plan offering that matches the thread creators requirements.
Of course, there is some unessesary commentary included in some offers, I suppose.
I mean, I'm thinking that as long as the thread creator is fine with what's posted, there is no problem. (These are meant to be offers directed solely towards the poster, correct?) I've even had some people PM me requesting that I pose MORE information in my posts. Strange..? :eek:
But maybe there SHOULD be some further restrictions implemented. I'm not too fond of some of the offers posted, and that includes some of my own. (Page scrolling does get annoying, yes.:D)
But how would we do this? Restrict offers to include 4 sentences max, plus brief account and payment details? - What?
Granted, i do agree with lots of information, but it seems a lot of hosts are doing this:
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porcupine 08-28-2002, 04:26 AM oh BTW, did any of you check: Wiseonline - BY FAR THE WORST! took over 5 pages!(http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showt...&threadid=69870)
Theres a whole bunch of those ones that were the worst by far.
Synthetic 08-28-2002, 04:27 AM I'd like to know what you had in mind, were you planning on proposing a new rule?
porcupine 08-28-2002, 04:33 AM I have no authority to make rules, nor request them, why should i, i'm just another WHT user, im just posting my opinions, i think some of the recent stuff on WHT has degraded it to the community, i'd call most of them growing pains (as WHT becomes more public, more clueless newbies will find their way there, and some of us will sit here like we're in a help channel explaining the same stuff over and over), but some of it can be prevented, massive cut and paste jobs could be prevented i would think, there was a rule (still is?) about it, but it falls into the relavence category, the features of cpanel is relavent to any cpanel based webhosting package, but would you include the source code for cpanel too? it's still relavent technically, or the exact model number and hardware configuration of all of your servers, including every piece of software and the version numbers? Has to stop somewhere :)
edude 08-28-2002, 04:33 AM I am part of SWR's "-" gang!
Originally posted by clocker1996
SWR, why do you have a dash in your name for your title
did you put that yourself ?
lol i thought dash meant user is banned
I hope swr is banned, i mean.... not banned :P
SoftWareRevue 08-28-2002, 04:33 AM Originally posted by clocker1996
SWR, why do you have a dash in your name for your title
did you put that yourself ?
lol i thought dash meant user is banned
I hope swr is banned, i mean.... not banned :P Just one of those crazy self-imposed banning days I had once upon a time. :(
iamdave 08-28-2002, 06:27 AM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
I would rather see informative copy/paste posts than them durned "Look at http://stupidhost.com/stupidplan" page posts. Same here. Hands78, at hostingchat, constantly posts articles that he copy and pastes, but they are informative and useful... http://www.hostingchat.net/viewforum.php?f=15
clocker1996 08-28-2002, 06:49 AM sounds like jbiz started , or atleast installed the forums on hostingchat ;) www.drirc.net/hostingchat.gif
Jedito 08-28-2002, 06:52 AM Originally posted by Synthetic
I'd like to know what you had in mind, were you planning on proposing a new rule?
There is a rule already
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65873
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65873
Chicken 08-28-2002, 09:44 AM Originally posted by porcupine
- Wiseonline - BY FAR THE WORST! took over 5 pages!(http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69870)
This one didn't even meet the request and has been removed.
We could institue some type of format in which replies should be posted (1. URL to plan, 2. features that match, etc.), although this still could be up for interpretation a bit and I don't think it would solve the 'problem' you are asking about.
Most likely people want a concise reply of an offer that matches their request. If you want to add more than enough information, well, you take the chance of no one reading it.
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