View Full Version : What Level Web Designer Am I?
sXeBoarder 08-27-2002, 12:08 PM Just wanted someone to let me know at what level of web design I am at if they could... I've been doing website's since I was 10 (Back when Netscape GOLD was the Hit Internet Browser) , of course it never went professional until 16... And now I'm 18.. My most recent work is:
www.Techiestaffing.com
www.OnshoreBoardShop.com
and the newest site im working on is
www.BelieveSnowboards.com (If anyone could tell me what they think of the flash i would greatly appreciate it along with any ideas)
Well thanks again
petertdavis 08-27-2002, 12:28 PM For Techiestaffing.com I get a register.com screen.
For BelieveSnowboards.com I get a screen asking me to download something.
ReDeeMeR 08-27-2002, 12:32 PM lol
AntiSpamHosts 08-27-2002, 12:33 PM Bah, On my DSL I have been waiting for this flash for 7 minutes and its barely half way done. I quit.
Cruise 08-27-2002, 12:33 PM Ok,
Well, the 3d preloading thing is kewl, but you obviously dont know anything about filesizes.
The preloader needs a preloader as it took more than 20 seconds to load.
The actual loading takes TOO LONG, 802 KB is TOO BIG!
But you know, i wanted to know what AMAZING intro this was.. and there it was 30 seconds of flashing white, some fonts, HIGH RES images and a 128 kbs (if it wasnt 190 kbs) Mp3 file.
Dude, Make the images smaller in filesize, lower the quality of both the images AND the mp3.
phpcoder 08-27-2002, 12:40 PM I agree... it took waaaay to long to load, however it was quite nice.
Keep up the good work :)
Lazarus 08-27-2002, 12:57 PM Man... I could make that flash file <100KB. Did you compress your images at all?
Gianni 08-27-2002, 01:03 PM Originally posted by Cruise
The preloader needs a preloader
Haha! :stickout
bobosama 08-27-2002, 01:20 PM I agree that the Flash takes way too long to load and should be a smaller size.
Additionally, the second site design is very good but came out terrible on several browsers. I'm using Internet Explorer 5.2 and OmniWeb on MacOS X and many of the links and images were not in their appropriate positions, the site was almost un-navigatable.
RackFive 08-27-2002, 01:38 PM Originally posted by petertdavis
For Techiestaffing.com I get a register.com screen.
For BelieveSnowboards.com I get a screen asking me to download something.
:emlaugh:
urbantwelve 08-27-2002, 01:54 PM your skill doesn't matter in this industry
it's who you know
you are getting jobs
.....
-xii
NewMedia3 08-27-2002, 02:42 PM The guy that said your skills don't matter is an idiot... He couldn't design a 2D box, I bet...
You did a good job on the flash but you need to work on the filesize a lot.
Keep it up.....you'll get it.
Hudson Peralta
NewMedia3.com
dsainternet 08-27-2002, 03:47 PM Hudson,
What "the guy" said is pretty accurate. As long his designs are acceptable to his market... and he has one, then the opinions of more qualified designers mean nothing. Although quality is important, motivation and persistence are probably as important in this kind of industry.
I say this only because I know I've been as or more successful than many friends I have with more training and experience. Besides, other than file size, sXeboarder's stuff's pretty good anyway.
peteny 08-27-2002, 05:56 PM if your designs are supposed to attract massive amounts of customers, i wouldnt rate it so well considering both that i loaded took over a minute on a high speed connection
Shadow 08-27-2002, 06:42 PM There are no levels in web design, my friend. Everyone needs something different and everyone has strengths and weaknesses. What is "good" is always in the eye of the beholder.
StoaVio 08-27-2002, 11:28 PM dsainternet,
Skills are a HUGE factor in the webdesign field. You can't tell me that having motivation and persistence will land you killer jobs with well respected design firms. Any newb can be motivated and persistent in his work and use geocities.com to make a website, but because of his lack of skill in the area, he won't be looked at as a prime canadite for anyjob that requires skill.
Lazarus 08-28-2002, 01:21 AM Not true, if you know marketing, you can make much more money from a single website with lousy design than if you're a really good designer who doesn't have any connections, doesn't advertise his site and doesn't submit it to search engines.
Skills are important, but they come second to marketing. Many companies are as good (if not better) than 2advanced, but everybody has heard of them because they market themselves extremely well...
I agree skills should come first, but it unfortunately doesn't seem that way in this industry.
sXeBoarder 08-28-2002, 03:21 AM Alright I have made the BelieveSnowboard.com flash compressed so hopefully it's more user friendly... Please let me know if anything else should be done? Thanks very much for the help!
AnonymousCow 08-28-2002, 04:32 PM 1) flash sucks. It doesn't work on every platform, the official software from macromedia only runs on selected platforms.. while the GPL flash software sucks. Not to mention how hard to is to watch flash animations from your cell-phone! or with a text->speech reader like all those blind people use.
2) even with your supposed compression, it is still too big.. I'm connected to 3 OC-3 lines and it still took too long, perhaps your ISP is too slow ? :)
3) if you add compression to the flash file, that won't help if you have an mp3 inside.. you really can't compress mp3s very well ;)
4) go to http://www.w3.org/ and do some reading.
5) stop making sites that don't work... I'd much rather have a site that looks ugly and works than a site with a pretty but non-functional design.
6) if you do insist on using that god-aweful flash junk, have the site initially display a regular HTML site with a small foot-note mentioning an alternative flash-enabled site.. sure, many people may not notice it.. but thats not a problem, who wants it anyway?
combs 08-29-2002, 06:20 AM You are too young. You have well tried. You take some tutorials and develop some skills. I do not like the kind of POP you have used.
MilkMan 08-29-2002, 10:47 AM Originally posted by sXeBoarder
www.Techiestaffing.com
www.OnshoreBoardShop.com
www.BelieveSnowboards.com
Well the first one does bring up a register.com coming soon page and a popup.
Second one looks like it came from a frontpage template.
The last one. Oww, oww, oww... "Teh Goggles, they do nothing!"
Almost gave me an epileptic seizure and I'm not epileptic. No offense was that real flash or swish flash?
sXeBoarder 08-29-2002, 06:03 PM Yeah sorry about the first link.. it used to be a page, but i guess the guy i designed it for took it down.... O'well and the second one is all wonderfully messed up. Readyhosting.com lets just say is up 99.9% of the time, but your files just randomly get deleted or screwed with. Anyways that should be up in a couple of days.. And the third one... No it wasn't in Swish.. to tell you the truth i hate that program... I'm sorry my skills in flash aren't wonderful... It's just i haven't messed with that program in a long time... But the guy i'm doing the site for loves it.. So it all works out on that case... right? Well thanks everyone for giving me their views on my work.
PaulH 09-03-2002, 04:38 PM Erm the second site u have posted a link to seems to have been hacked!
http://www.onshoreboardshop.com/
EXTRA!!! EXTRA!!!!
"ADMIN!!!! O ISOTK OWNO SUA WEB PAGE!!!"
Owned by Merfolk!!!!!
Brasil rulez!!!!!
#isotk _ irc.brasnet.org _ contact _ merfolkmaster@hotmail.com!!!!!!!!
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