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XTStrike
08-27-2002, 03:09 AM
TimPD is banned, paradise designs is censored, I have spent many hours of my life trying to resolve this issue, but i feel i am seriously running round in circles for TimPD and not getting anywhere

His Username is Banned And Company Name Censored, I am deciding if his remaining companies also need censoring, this will be decided shortly.

Please report any posts but any body appearing to be tim to me and I will deal with it.

I apologise to those awaiting refunds, I have failed you :(

Regards

XTStrike

Dymex
08-27-2002, 03:13 AM
Thanks for the info xtstrike

CritticAge
08-27-2002, 03:15 AM
I apologise to those awaiting refunds, I have failed you

You have failed no one, you should not be the one to get Tim to pay who he needs to.

Synthetic
08-27-2002, 03:16 AM
You mean he STILL didn't provide each and every person with a refund?

Well, I guess that's not so surprising. :rolleyes:

sitekeeper
08-27-2002, 03:18 AM
Sad, but I guess necessary under the circumstances.

Haze
08-27-2002, 03:21 AM
xtstrike, don't feel bad, it wasn't your responsibility to recover any of the money, you only tried to help the best you could. You made a wise decision, thank you :)

eyow
08-27-2002, 03:36 AM
Not being a customer, ever, of TimPD. I was really hopeing he would of turned the situation around. But sometimes you dig a whole so deep there is no climbing out of it.

SoftWareRevue
08-27-2002, 03:51 AM
A total disregard for this forums rules should be enough to forever ban someone.

edude
08-27-2002, 04:02 AM
:agree: SWR :agree:

^Phi
08-27-2002, 04:08 AM
Colocation4U is owned and operated by it's parent divison Paradise Designs. Paradise Designs has been business since 2001. Paradise Designs has been rated over 50 of the Best Web Hosting Companies on the net today. Paradise Designs, is privately owned and operated and a fully profitable company in the Bluegrass State, Kentucky.
http://www.colo4u.net/aboutus.htm

:emlaugh: :emlaugh: :crying:

clocker1996
08-27-2002, 04:35 AM
Haha

wow
i just called tim's house
guess what
his dad picked up
i talked to his dad
he told me that he doesnt really know what his son does
and since he doesnt konw anything about comps
or the internet
he doesnt really get involved
or jump in
the guy is CLUELESS
i said where is tim
LOL
he goes
"Tim is in bed"

I explained to him that tim owes people money, and that he has been scamming people.

He kept saying things like "i dunno, he got an online business....."
he insists that i take anything up with tim.

the guy has no idea what his son does, and i dont think tim tells him either

i asked him ,d o you know how i got your number?
"tim got an online business, number forwards heah"

he had a major southern accent
i can't say for sure it was his dad
but that's what he told me
and since i called at 4AM
i really dont think he was lying
i think that was seroiusly his dad

because he sounded like i woke him up
so i dont think he would try to play games with me soon as hes waking up posing as tims dad
he doesn't seem to care about what tim does, or who tim owes money, or who tim has scammed.

Synthetic
08-27-2002, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by clocker1996
he doesn't seem to care about what tim does, or who tim owes money, or who tim has scammed. You know what? I don't think Tim really cares either.

clocker1996
08-27-2002, 04:40 AM
Hehe, I think www.colo4u.com and www.*********** (tim's site) are going to have a bit of a conflict

Both provide colocation, people could mistakenly go to 4u.net and 4u.com - both parties will get mad over that i'm sure

porcupine
08-27-2002, 04:41 AM
clocker: how old is tim? Is tim young enough that his dad is legally responsible for what he does? :D could have some great fun of the "i dont care" attitude if so, you know, a little spin through small claims court, take tims family on a vacation to the location of your choice, etc. :D

clocker1996
08-27-2002, 04:41 AM
tim is 16

i told him, you are responsible for what your son does
he isnt old enough to claim responsibility (atlesat i dont think he is. correct me if im wrong????)

he just kept mumbling (im guessing becuase he was confused, and just woke up) saying call tim tomorrow, and that he doesnt know... doesnt konw... etc

porcupine
08-27-2002, 04:50 AM
I think it's 18 for responsibility.

How much does he owe you? I'd definatly take him a round in small claims court in your local court by all means. I'm sorry but nothing against people who mess up, it happens, i mean get incorporated, protect yourself, your family, etc. and i feel bad for people who take the rap (his dad persay) but by the sounds of it, it's like he doesen't care enough to stop it. It's like (remember way back in the day, can anyone remember back when they were in highschool?), you'd always see the bullies parents in the offices, not doing squat typically because they just didn't care, it's the parents in this case that are perpetuating the entire situation, and i find that disgusting because they hide behind the "it's not me, it's my son" excuse.

clocker1996
08-27-2002, 04:52 AM
nah
he doesn't owe me anything
i was looking at his site.. colo4u dot net

and i saw the toll free 1888 #

i thought id call it
and thats who ended up picking up

at first i didnt know who it was

so he picked up, saying HELLO
i said

TIMMAY
TIMMAYYYY
IS THIS TIMMAY
and then he said no tim is in bed

that's how it started
after he said tim is in bed, everything i told you guys up there ^^^^^ is what happend

hope anyone isnt mad that i called :)
I was just curious to see if id get a machine, or whta i would get
so when i started talkign to him i figured might as well ask him some questions

porcupine
08-27-2002, 04:59 AM
he posted a number on the net that linked to his home phone number? Man, even i'm not gutsy enough to try that, i wanted a 1800 (had a nice one with "colo" worked into it until sprint broke their quote with me and refused to furnish services at the quoted price, "it was an error on our part, the customer rep was confused, we appologize" was the wording i believe), but i wasn't prepared to tie that into a home number that would ring at 4:00 am for my own sanity, too many timezones, too many potential wake up calls for no particular reason :).

edude
08-27-2002, 05:09 AM
colo4u.com i believe is owned by vortech?

ubergeek22
08-27-2002, 05:14 AM
Clocker, calling people at 4am can be seen as harassment :D If someone phoned me and shouted BENNNNNYY!!, I'd get your number barred :)

clocker1996
08-27-2002, 05:20 AM
Haha

Harrassment?

i called ONCE buddy
I didn't call him more than once

ALL I DID was ask a few questions

Besides, if he doesn't want people calling at 4am
1. he shouldnt redirect his ****ing 1888 # to his house
2. should post some HOURS like 9-5 or something on the SITE
3. this is TIMPD HERE HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Aussie Bob
08-27-2002, 05:29 AM
Kind of sad in a way. I was really hoping that Tim would work things out and start doing business in a responsible manner. I was hoping that he'd do the right thing and move on and build a good business. Well, if you're reading this Tim, good luck in your future ventures and I hope you gain some insight into why things haven't worked out for you here at WHT.

I3 Optic
08-27-2002, 05:37 AM
Wow, well, at least something has been done to prevent TimPD from scamming more people from and through these forums.

I never did think his parents were too aware of his situation.

Aussie Bob
08-27-2002, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by xtstrike
I apologise to those awaiting refunds, I have failed you :(
You failed noone xtstrike. :)

Aussie Bob
08-27-2002, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by I3 Optic
Wow, well, at least something has been done to prevent TimPD from scamming more people from and through these forums.

I never did think his parents were too aware of his situation.
I think for Tim's sake, those of you who are still owed money, need to write to Tim's parents and ask for some kind of compensation. It will at least alert them to Tim's activities and maybe they can deal with this etc....

XTStrike
08-27-2002, 05:46 AM
I agree with both sides of this, Tim may have learnt a lesson from this and what to do in any future business ventures.

I was hopeful that this could be resolved, once I spoke to him this morning on ICQ I asked if the payments were processed, he said they were not but to give him a few hours, I asked him last night (UK time) if the payments would be processed, i was told not to worry that they would be.

After this I was told by him he was going to bed, well, i thought if hes going to bed then thats another 8 hours at least, so IMO I decided enough is enough and that he was trying to lead me round in circles as much as he is the people he is supposed to be paying.

The reason I feel I have let people down is because I started talking to individuals about the situation and then talking to tim, then getting the both to agree to dates, etc... I thought I was getting somewhere, then the bombshell when it appeared Tim was starting to lead me along, im not one to be led by people.

If tim pays today then I may think about un-banning him from the forums with a public apology, but if it is not processed today then what can i say, all the hours I have dedicated to resolving this issue will have been sadly wasted.

I have not banned EARHost/fractiousws because the company is only partly owned by TimPD, I would like the opinions of some long term reputable, IMPARTIAL and informative forum members to help me decide.

Thank You

XTStrike

I3 Optic
08-27-2002, 05:56 AM
I think...you have done your best to help Tim resolve the issue xtstrike. At the end of the day, it was always upto Tim whether he took heed and made the payments on time.

And it's not like you're the only one he's lead along..he does it full time, he's kinda good at it. You had the common sense to let it go on for only so long.

I thank you for your time in at least trying to make a difference.

Aussie Bob
08-27-2002, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by xtstrike
I have not banned EARHost/fractiousws because the company is only partly owned by TimPD, I would like the opinions of some long term reputable, IMPARTIAL and informative forum members to help me decide.
If you think I fit that catagory, then I would volunteer my services and give you my insight. Feel free to PM me or email me etc.

mdrussell
08-27-2002, 06:38 AM
I'm more than willing to voice my opinion too, if you want it.

Let me know,

Matt

edude
08-27-2002, 06:39 AM
have not banned EARHost/fractiousws because the company is only partly owned by TimPD, I would like the opinions of some long term reputable, IMPARTIAL and informative forum members to help me decide.

Yes, i definetly fit into this catergory :D

Ban them all! Ban them!!

:D

edude
08-27-2002, 06:40 AM
oh wait.........


i forgot, i'm not reputable :(

:D

XTStrike
08-27-2002, 06:53 AM
edude, you are correct, you are the last person I would ask for an opinion :D :rolleyes:

Vortech
08-27-2002, 06:59 AM
Still no redfund here.. :(

Lets see, Tim said 9am then he said oh wait i thought you said 9PM, then it was xtstrike said 7PM, then he said fine once i killed the server again (at 9am on the dot) and said i will have it there by 5PM. Well all that came and went.. :( Then he said i will have it there ASAP. I told him i was going out of town to have my money here by 6am today well guess what still no money..


xtstrike thank you very much for all of your help. I hope ever one gets there refund from this little punk.

Vortech
08-27-2002, 07:05 AM
Hey just incase some one missed it look at colo4u.com rapidcolo.com a vortech inc co. LOL Now look at colo4u dot net guess who timPD.. Son of bitch can't even get his own domains. Plus takes my money.

edude
08-27-2002, 07:07 AM
LOL, you will regret you said that, i might just end up being the last person :D

:)

Originally posted by xtstrike
edude, you are correct, you are the last person I would ask for an opinion :D :rolleyes:

JonathanVH
08-27-2002, 07:43 AM
@xtstrike: TimPD is on a proxy meaning you will have to ban more than just one IP to keep him off the board. I own vBulletinTemplates.com (he was almost repsonsible for the whole site being shut down) and he posted there as well, banned him, he came back, so I just banned the better half of the entire proxy and that basically dealt with things.

Glad to see something was finally done, maybe this will teach him a lesson that you don't lie, cheat, and steal from your customers. Honestly, I thought most parents monitored what their children viewed on the net, sadly this is not the case, maybe someone should file a suit and press charges :).

citrus
08-27-2002, 08:20 AM
I have a feeling that Tim's going to be back anytime soon with a different ip and a business under a new name...

Just a strange feeling I'm getting from all this...

allera
08-27-2002, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by citrus
I have a feeling that Tim's going to be back anytime soon with a different ip and a business under a new name...
I'm sure one of us will spot it. We seem to be very good at that type of thing around here. :)

StarGate
08-27-2002, 08:55 AM
DAMN! He was always very nice to me and when he was a client always paid promptly, one time even in advance. Can't really believe he is so bad... maybe things just didn't work out and he wasn't simply mature enough (I mean 16 it is justifyable not to be so mature) to handle things, dunno really.

It is just that from MY personal experience with him I have nothing bad to tell, only good things actually.... damn! :(

Akash
08-27-2002, 09:25 AM
Well I'm not surprised - still not taking sides however ;).

But as I said in an earlier post of mine, banning TimPD has set a precedent. This means that the mods now have a "case" or instance, to use when/if they want to ban another company for flagrant abuse and fraud - though that's not specifically against the rules.

My opinions on that: WHT is a community. No one, except for the few flagrant spammers - should be banned forever. A Ban should last for a given period of time, depending on the extremity of the offense (ie, 90 days, 6 months, etc). WHT is a community and a resource, it helps both customers and companies deal with many of the issues that we face everyday. I think banning TimPD was the right thing to do, but he should at least be given one last chance to say something (whether it be I'm sorry, or **** you). If you(the mods) decide to stick with the ban, ban him for a short period to give him a while to think things over (ie, 45-60 days), then allow him back on the forums (imagine him trying to explain this mess to potential customers).

Vortech and those who are owed money: Dont wait any longer. File a civil suit or send a final notice for demand for payment to his house today.

As far as banning earhost/james - While many of you may see them has having nothing to do with this, i think otherwise. As partners, they have entered the business together knowing what needs to be done. If there are any earhost customers that have lost services or money, then earhost/james should also be included in any lawsuit.

That's about all I have for now....:rolleyes:

JBIZ718
08-27-2002, 10:13 AM
Well if tim continues to switch proxies it will be very hard to keep him off the board.

I find this whole mess with Tim a waste of alot of peoples time. There is a court system in the US, I recommend using it. It does work.

For future reference I would say know what your dealing with before you go into business with them.

Now hopefully tim will stop Pming me also.

pgrote
08-27-2002, 10:22 AM
X -- You did the best you could, which is way more than most people would do. You didn't fail anyone.

My thoughts: Tim should be banned for life. EARHOST shouldn't be banned.

One of the responsibilities as forum participants is to ensure that the quality (and I hear an Aussie Bob comment coming) of the messages is kept high. Most importantly, though, I think the responsibility of the forum is to ensure that people with horrible business practices are not allowed to prey on the unknowing.

By banning Tim you do this.

Aussie Bob
08-27-2002, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by pgrote
X -- You did the best you could, which is way more than most people would do. You didn't fail anyone.
Agreed :agree:
My thoughts: Tim should be banned for life. EARHOST shouldn't be banned.
Yes. I hope James can build a good business with EARhost.com and run with the business fulltime. Jame's choice of business partners was questionable though, especially considering he was looking at using WHT for their customer acquisition programs. I feel he's trying to break out from his gyprocking business into the hosting business. It's not easy to switch businesses like that.
One of the responsibilities as forum participants is to ensure that the quality (and I hear an Aussie Bob comment coming) of the messages is kept high. Most importantly, though, I think the responsibility of the forum is to ensure that people with horrible business practices are not allowed to prey on the unknowing.
Agreed. :agree:
By banning Tim you do this.
I just hope that Tim repents and turns over a new leaf. He's still young enough that he can make a fresh start and build a solid future for him and his future family.

clocker1996
08-27-2002, 10:39 AM
earhost, ditch tim

edude
08-27-2002, 10:43 AM
I think earhost should be banned do you know why?

Because James knew what he was getting into when he joined up forces with Tim, i dont think he should've joined forces with a scam artist like Tim..

Anything that Tim has any relation to should be banned, earhost should ditch Tim, than they are welcome to post.

SoftWareRevue
08-27-2002, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by akashd
. . . . . . . .A Ban should last for a given period of time, depending on the extremity of the offense (ie, 90 days, 6 months, etc). . . . . . . Sure; maybe he shouldn't be banned forever. Maybe a fifteen year ban would help. But he'd still be the same person after fifteen years.

He has shown utter disregard for fellow forum members. He spit in the moderators face with signing up a new name (a name related to one of the members he owes monies to) moments after being banned.

WHT owes him nothing. Neither him, nor anything he's associated with deserves to have the resources of this forum to mine and then abuse it's members.

That's right; many of you missed some of the crap he pulled after xtstrike banned him. I, for one, am appalled at the actions of even this sixteen year old. Disgracefull. Just disgracefull.

mindboggle
08-27-2002, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
That's right; many of you missed some of the crap he pulled after xtstrike banned him.
What was that?

JayC
08-27-2002, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
That's right; many of you missed some of the crap he pulled after xtstrike banned him. I'm with SWR here. Normally I'd argue for a short ban followed by a "second chance." But really the second chance was already had, and thrown away.

Look at it this way: would Tim's return to WHT bring any value at all to the site's users? Would it bring any negatives or risks?

As for the Earhost issue, I'd lean towards not banning that company if not for the fact that the presence here of a company at which Tim is a principal presents an easy way around the ban -- a company-related login, instead of personal.

pgrote
08-27-2002, 01:25 PM
I admit, I missed it. What happened?

Techark
08-27-2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by JayC

Look at it this way: would Tim's return to WHT bring any value at all to the site's users? Would it bring any negatives or risks?



I for one will miss the entertament value of reading TimD threads. It was better than a soap opera.:D

Incognito
08-27-2002, 01:31 PM
We take the "be polite" rule VERY seriously! We do not tolerate ANY rudeness. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive will receive one warning (at our discretion), and if the member offends again the member will be banned without warning.

Finally, any abuse towards our staff and/or management will result in immediate suspension of your account.

It has long been the policy not to ban based on activity outside the forum (including fraud, etc.), but to ban based only on activity within the forum. I think banning Tim is appropriate and within these guidelines and practices. He has certainly been rude, unpleasant and disruptive. He also has made promises and statements on the board which have been untruthful. He has, in essense, used this board in a most unprofessional and immature manner and will continue to attempt to do so.

As to Earhost: I believe as long as it is represented here only by James then it is ok. However, if James allows Tim to enter this board under his name in the future or use his account or represent Earhost here, then I believe it should lead to further action against Earhost. Tim is an owner and, therefore, Earhost cannot disavow his actions. Even if he were only an employee, the employer is responsible for the actions of their employees when representing the company.

This banning of Tim is an unfortunate and serious step and one that has been taken by the moderators only after being pushed to and beyond the limit. I imagine what they have encountered directly is even worse than what we have seen. The use of this or any board is not a right, but a privilege. The board has been very tolerant-even to the point of being accused (inappropriately in my opinion) of showing Tim favoritism. However, his behavior crossed any line of reasonableness here (totally disregarding his outside business activities) and merits this exceptional action.

<an aside to James of Earhost---you need to make a personal and business decision as to what you and your company are to stand for. Then you need to decide if Tim fits in with that decision. To this point you have been given considerable courtesy of separation and disassociation from Tim's activities. You cannot expect that to continue. Furthermore, while you have no legal liability as to his pre-Earhost activities, you do have legal liabilitiy as to all his activities while representing Earhost. Do you really want that?>

Hostkookster
08-27-2002, 01:36 PM
Incognito,

Thats right on! I 100% agree. :agree: :agree:

Two thumbs up!

jayjay
08-27-2002, 01:36 PM
xstrike - I agree with your choice to ban him. Why? Because it's not your place to be his parent.

That's right; many of you missed some of the crap he pulled after xtstrike banned him.

hmm?

pgrote
08-27-2002, 01:45 PM
Would someone please tell me who INCOGNITO is. I feel like it's insider info ;-)

clocker1996
08-27-2002, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Sure; maybe he shouldn't be banned forever. Maybe a fifteen year ban would help. But he'd still be the same person after fifteen years.



nah, i dunno dude. people change. i doubt he would be the SAME person after 15 years (making him 30 or 31 yrs old)

i'm sure he will grow up some day

eyow
08-27-2002, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by clocker1996


nah, i dunno dude. people change. i doubt he would be the SAME person after 15 years (making him 30 or 31 yrs old)

i'm sure he will grow up some day

I agree people change. I use to be a snot nose punk bully at Tim's age(can we verify that is his real age since he denied it so much???) but I grew up and learned that people don't want to be associated with or do business with a bully, unless you're Billy Gates :D

Rotifer
08-27-2002, 02:38 PM
Keep up the good work X, you made a wise decision. Uh, sorry for losing my temper with Tim on Friday.

chinchilla
08-27-2002, 02:47 PM
Lesson learned: don't do business with someone who isn't old enough to legally sign a contract. :cartman:

clocker1996
08-27-2002, 02:50 PM
so can we call tim the younger version of shawn white
LOL

pgrote
08-27-2002, 03:06 PM
Um, get it right. It's CEO-Shawn J. White. PERIOD!

Omair Haroon
08-27-2002, 03:31 PM
Tim remembers me of T-a-c-i-d-B-l-u-e. :D

GraphxGirl
08-27-2002, 03:32 PM
Personally, I think you did the right thing. You weren't responsible for obtaining refunds for people but you obviously did your best anyway. I am sure people appreciate that.

I think your decision was a wise one as it eliminates the likelihood that Tim can scam other members of WHT ever again.

Xtstrike, for the record, please do not call me ignorant again. That pisses me off and shows your age. Just because someone may or may not agree with you does not mean they are ignorant. Your remarks to me in the other thread were out of line.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69826

Akash
08-27-2002, 04:50 PM
It has long been the policy not to ban based on activity outside the forum (including fraud, etc.), but to ban based only on activity within the forum.

And again I say, that banning Tim is a precedent. There is nothing wrong with banning him forever because of his outright rudeness, vulgarity, and obstruction with the mods and other members of this forum (I have also been harassed by him before), but banning him because of what happened with Vortech and others would throw a piece (a very small one, but still) of our community away.

IMO, if the official reason for the ban was becuase of the refunds (or lack thereof) then I disagree with it, but if the official reason is because of the rudeness, vulgarity, obstruction, and his overall feeling of "I dunno wat ur talking about", then I am behind you (xtstrike and fellow mods) 110%

As for the length of the ban, personally I'm aiming for whatever time it takes for him to become a legal adult and show proof of it (birth certificate or similar) and then only if we (as in the community) feel he would play a proactive role here. As someone said earlier, people change, sometimes in a few short months, sometimes in years. If/When the ban is lifted, he should be placed on "probation", ie, a 1 strike rule; which if broken can then result in a permenant ban.

XTStrike
08-27-2002, 04:51 PM
GraphxGirl, thanks for the comments in the first couple of paragraphs, but Im not sure what you are refering to in my age as I am almost 23 years old/young (birthday soon, woohoo)

The "ingorant" remark was more to your postings without reading the full history, granted the full history could have taken weeks to read (as it did me), but still... :D

But Anyways GraphxGirl, im not one to hold a grudge, so lets make peace :)

edude
08-27-2002, 04:53 PM
xstrike your welcome to join my "un reputable" club ;)

Originally posted by xtstrike
GraphxGirl, thanks for the comments in the first couple of paragraphs, but Im not sure what you are refering to in my age as I am almost 23 years old/young (birthday soon, woohoo)

The "ingorant" remark was more to your postings without reading the full history, granted the full history could have taken weeks to read (as it did me), but still... :D

XTStrike
08-27-2002, 05:04 PM
I dont mean to be picky but shouldnt that be "disreputable" ?

Originally posted by edude
xstrike your welcome to join my "un reputable" club ;)

edude
08-27-2002, 05:12 PM
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=unreputable

well sorta the samething, maybe you should join the "picky" club :D

SoftWareRevue
08-27-2002, 05:21 PM
The WHT NosePickersClub does have a nice ring to it.

Adult Data
08-27-2002, 05:26 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Sure; maybe he shouldn't be banned forever. Maybe a fifteen year ban would help. But he'd still be the same person after fifteen years.

He has shown utter disregard for fellow forum members. He spit in the moderators face with signing up a new name (a name related to one of the members he owes monies to) moments after being banned.

That's right; many of you missed some of the crap he pulled after xtstrike banned him. I, for one, am appalled at the actions of even this sixteen year old. Disgracefull. Just disgracefull. [/QUOTE

Ok, I missed something. Now, someone tell me what it was. LoL What name did he use that was related to someone he owes money??

SoftWareRevue
08-27-2002, 05:30 PM
It was one of Vortechs' I believe.
He threatened to do the same with one of mine.

Darth
08-27-2002, 05:38 PM
:eek:

Vortech
08-27-2002, 05:40 PM
I just wanted to update everyone since the previous thread was closed.

Tim never paid me. What a shock. LoL He changed the payment time on me 3 times yesterday and then ended up sending me $50. He thought I would turn the server back on for him with that payment and then he would promise to the send the remaining $220. What a joke!! LoL Needless to say, his server has now been pulled offline permanently and we are using it for ourselves now.

Our collections department also attempted to contact the signer of the contract today and got a home voice mail, when calling Paradise Designs and EARhost. I guess it is time to FedEx a demand for payment and go from there.

Akash
08-27-2002, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Vortech
I just wanted to update everyone since the previous thread was closed.

Tim never paid me. What a shock. LoL He changed the payment time on me 3 times yesterday and then ended up sending me $50. He thought I would turn the server back on for him with that payment and then he would promise to the send the remaining $220. What a joke!! LoL Needless to say, his server has now been pulled offline permanently and we are using it for ourselves now.

Our collections department also attempted to contact the signer of the contract today and got a home voice mail, when calling Paradise Designs and EARhost. I guess it is time to FedEx a demand for payment and go from there.

Please do keep us updated, though I'm sure we'll see a bit about this in wired or cnet or someplace...:D

Vortech
08-27-2002, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by akashd


Please do keep us updated, though I'm sure we'll see a bit about this in wired or cnet or someplace...:D


LOL...

Akash
08-27-2002, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Vortech



LOL...

imagine the headlines....."16 year old kid lost in paradise" ;)

Jedito
08-27-2002, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Incognito

As to Earhost: I believe as long as it is represented here only by James then it is ok. However, if James allows Tim to enter this board under his name in the future or use his account or represent Earhost here, then I believe it should lead to further action against Earhost. Tim is an owner and, therefore, Earhost cannot disavow his actions. Even if he were only an employee, the employer is responsible for the actions of their employees when representing the company.



Tim already used EarHost WHT account.
And how will the mods know who is who when Tim use proxies?

Rotifer
08-27-2002, 06:01 PM
And how will the mods know who is who when Tim use proxies?

Time has a rather unique style and he isn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut when it is necessary.

iamdave
08-27-2002, 07:21 PM
It's about time. Too bad I missed most of it. SWR, what was the username that he signed up? I don't know if it would be right to ban EARHost. But on the other hand, however, he knew what Tim was all about, and what he had done, so that might be grounds to ban him also...

phpcoder
08-27-2002, 07:24 PM
You wont need to see if he uses proxies. You will just need to watch the grammar, and wait until he puts:

Tim,
support@earhost.com

at the end of a post ;)

gt3n
08-27-2002, 08:03 PM
well at least he's not out hot wiring cars and going to jail :)

allera
08-27-2002, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by phpcoder
You wont need to see if he uses proxies. You will just need to watch the grammar, and wait until he puts:

Tim,
support@earhost.com

at the end of a post ;)
You mean support[at]earhost.com, right? ;)

clocker1996
08-27-2002, 08:09 PM
just look for a guy who keeps saying

WE WAS THERE
WE WAS HAPPY BUT THEN

WE WAS SCARED

WE WAS WE WAS

cyansmoker
08-27-2002, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by xtstrike
I apologise to those awaiting refunds, I have failed you :(
Heh...been there.
I like the mix of anger and bitterness I can sense in this sentence.
:D

Acroplex
08-27-2002, 09:49 PM
MODS CLOSE THIS THREAD
:D

Andrew
08-27-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by timechange
MODS CLOSE THIS THREAD
:D

sniff...without Timmy, who's going to be saying that every five minutes?:bawling:

Acroplex
08-27-2002, 09:53 PM
Search: MODS CLOSE THIS THREAD (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=549252&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending)

SoftWareRevue
08-27-2002, 10:02 PM
:eek: Them's a lotta closed threads. With a common element. :eek2:

sadistikal
08-27-2002, 10:08 PM
I don't know much about TimPD or his business and therefore his business practices but I did read a comment I'd like to respond to:

Honestly, I thought most parents monitored what their children viewed on the net

No way. And its not just a symptom of the "net". Parents, especially in America, don't monitor their kids NEAR enough. Thats a HUGE part of the problems we have in this country. Its sad really. As a father of two I can only take comfort in the fact that I'll be a better parent than 80-90% of American parents.

Rotifer
08-27-2002, 10:08 PM
Was I the only one that noticed he miss-typed "expert" in his title or was that an impressivley lame joke?

TimPd
Web Hosting Expect
:confused:

Akash
08-27-2002, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Rotifer
Was I the only one that noticed he miss-typed "expert" in his title or was that an impressivley lame joke?

TimPd
Web Hosting Expect
:confused:


Maybe it was supposed to read "Web Hosting Expected"?? He's been known to talk in multiple tenses (past, present, future, never gonna happen)

MTG
08-27-2002, 10:26 PM
:D :stickout :laugh: :buck: :emlaugh:

AceWeb
08-27-2002, 10:32 PM
Xtstrike,
Good decision on banning TimPD, I hope it will teach him and others who take advantage of other customers. I am not brand new, but I am not an expert in hosting either, but lately there are so many more cases of fraud that I am hearing. My latest 3 new clients that came to host with me and get their site design got cheated by their precious hosting and design companies. It is just very sad that there are people who take advantage of others. Makes me mad.

As for Tim, I hope he learns from this, I read some earlier threads and he really took a dive down.

“A pat on the back is only a few centimeters from a kick in the but.”

Acroplex
08-27-2002, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Rotifer
Was I the only one that noticed he miss-typed "expert" in his title or was that an impressivley lame joke?

TimPd
Web Hosting Expect
:confused:

Dyslexia? or one expect-orant too many? :D

Akash
08-27-2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by AceWeb

“A pat on the back is only a few centimeters from a kick in the but.”


Do people really pat that low on people's backs????

JBIZ718
08-27-2002, 10:37 PM
Dont you all think its time to drop the issue so it can go away.

I mean hes gone so thats great. Now can we all move on.

Acroplex
08-27-2002, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by akashd



Do people really pat that low on people's backs????

In basketball, football, soccer and baseball :D

Acroplex
08-27-2002, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by JBIZ718
Dont you all think its time to drop the issue so it can go away.

I mean hes gone so thats great. Now can we all move on.

Spoilsport, I am only on my 2nd beer for tonight. :D

AceWeb
08-27-2002, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by akashd



Do people really pat that low on people's backs???? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

It is an expression ;)

Akash
08-27-2002, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by AceWeb
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

It is an expression ;)


Yes, I know...<insert sarcasm here>

AceWeb
08-27-2002, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by akashd



Yes, I know...<insert sarcasm here>

Really? :eek: :eek:

















:D :D :D :D :D :D

clocker1996
08-27-2002, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Rotifer
Was I the only one that noticed he miss-typed "expert" in his title or was that an impressivley lame joke?

TimPd
Web Hosting Expect
:confused:


haha
i noticed that too
i never said anything though, figured he was just retarded.

interactive
08-28-2002, 12:15 AM
rofl clocker...maybe im not exactly the niocest person in the world but i think the ban was more then justified x-strike you didn't fail what else could you do? the rest of you people who got burned should go after timma's parents. it probly seems like i dont like timmy boy. but all i can say is there are alot of young business people out there, he just trashed our rep.. Thanks to timmy boy vortech optic and all the rest of you who got burned probly wont ever do business with young people again. I know I wouldn't. So why don't we all give our timmy boy a round of applause. just my worthless 2 cents......

edude
08-28-2002, 12:30 AM
Maybe your not the "niocest" person, but i certainly am :D

Originally posted by interactive
rofl clocker...maybe im not exactly the niocest person in the world but i think the ban was more then justified x-strike you didn't fail what else could you do? the rest of you people who got burned should go after timma's parents. it probly seems like i dont like timmy boy. but all i can say is there are alot of young business people out there, he just trashed our rep.. Thanks to timmy boy vortech optic and all the rest of you who got burned probly wont ever do business with young people again. I know I wouldn't. So why don't we all give our timmy boy a round of applause. just my worthless 2 cents......

interactive
08-28-2002, 12:33 AM
ya ya so im not the best at typing ;-)

Akash
08-28-2002, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by interactive
ya ya so im not the best at typing ;-)


eh...I think you meant:

Ya ya...So I'm not the best at typing ;)

:D

Aussie Bob
08-28-2002, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by JBIZ718
Dont you all think its time to drop the issue so it can go away.

I mean hes gone so thats great. Now can we all move on.
Yep agreed.

One more time for Timmmmmaaaaayyyyy -

MODS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD!! :D ;)

Chicken
08-28-2002, 01:17 AM
Well, seems I missed the whole Tim thing whilst on holiday, however if whatever this thread is about hasn't been decided in these 8 pages... it ain't gonna be.