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Tim S
08-26-2002, 12:42 AM
I am looking at getting a box with an un-metered (capped) 1.5Mbps line. I am sure that the line will provide enough transfer however I am concerned about slowdowns at peak times. Does anyone run this setup or have an opinion? Would I be better off just staying with plans that have a set amount of GB's?

Thanks,
Tim

Samuel
08-26-2002, 12:46 AM
Youll be fine with 1.5

I run 1 meg and it's plenty.

netdude
08-26-2002, 05:51 AM
1.5Mbps... probably b safe using roughly 320GB/month on that... that'd leave a safe buffer for peaks/etc... heh

StarGate
08-26-2002, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by netdude
1.5Mbps... probably b safe using roughly 320GB/month on that... that'd leave a safe buffer for peaks/etc... heh

Unless it's Cogent, then it would of course suck, right? :rolleyes:

Samuel
08-26-2002, 08:54 AM
Probally, not sure, all I know is 1.5 is plenty per server.

citrus
08-26-2002, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by NocSol
Unless it's Cogent, then it would of course suck, right? :rolleyes:

A little off-topic, I suppose...:rolleyes:

tilted
08-26-2002, 09:44 AM
As long as the 1.5 Mbps limit isn't imposed by being on a shared T1, you should be OK. Best yet is to get access to MRTG or monitoring reports and watch your usage. If you see flat shelves on your graphs, then your host probably has a bottleneck upstream.

George

StarGate
08-26-2002, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by citrus


A little off-topic, I suppose...:rolleyes:

Ok true, sorry.

Wazeh
08-26-2002, 08:40 PM
Depends how popular the sites on the server would be. A T1 connection would serve about 40 concurrent connections at 36Kbps each. If you anticipate many concurrent connections, you might run into slowness.

zdwebhosting
08-26-2002, 10:28 PM
willl be great for forums and webpages but downloads no

because 1mbit cable can suck up the majority of that on 1 user

have them see if they will do 1.5mbit average burstable to 10 or 100 :)

thats the best solution.

hope that helps

JDTurbeville
08-26-2002, 10:41 PM
I'm curious as to where you got this 1.5Mbps capped connection? Please PM me :)

jt

Potsie
08-26-2002, 11:18 PM
Surpisingly it took until the 8th answer before someone made sense.
This is like asking if a Chevy is a good enough car. Good enough for what?
1.5 Mbps can be plenty for web hosting, but as mentioned, not if that includes hosting files for download. There are also many other factors. How many simultaneous connections, size of pages and images, etc.

xavopower
08-26-2002, 11:20 PM
in response to that, i must ask this: i have 100 mbps line dedicated to my server (yes it costs a fortune) but do i really need it?

phpcoder
08-26-2002, 11:22 PM
How much are you paying a month for that if I may ask? That has to be worth at least 3.5k+ a month.

xavopower
08-26-2002, 11:26 PM
7000 a month.

phpcoder
08-26-2002, 11:29 PM
OMFG :stickout :eek:

xavopower
08-26-2002, 11:30 PM
lol, i know, thats why im wondering if i really need it ... its a good line though, it can handle a couple 1000 gb's per month, but we cap it at 600 gb for optimal performance.

Tim S
08-26-2002, 11:59 PM
The box would be used for shared hosting. Most sites are basically static a few using PHP/mySQL with an overall average of about 1.5GB transfer per site. Not much in the way of downloads. I would be going to a 10Mbps line once the amount of clients/sites would make it necessary and affordable.

Ivan23
08-27-2002, 02:39 AM
a t-1 line here cost $60 bucks per month , but a really good one is 170 per month ... not to bad ...

mikeknoxv
08-27-2002, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by bigshow911
lol, i know, thats why im wondering if i really need it ... its a good line though, it can handle a couple 1000 gb's per month, but we cap it at 600 gb for optimal performance.

Can you share that line between other servers?

citrus
08-27-2002, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Ivan23
a t-1 line here cost $60 bucks per month , but a really good one is 170 per month ... not to bad ...

Where are you located? Who's the bandwidth provider?

netdude
08-27-2002, 07:35 AM
he's probably mistaking a point-to-point T1 with a T1 to an actual transit provider... point-to-point refering to just a physical link... no internet over it...

fog
08-27-2002, 03:28 PM
Umm... I would not pay $7,000 a month, unless they offer you 100 Mbps of non-oversold bandwidth (I'd venture to guess they run a 100 Mbps line to your server, but that you're not necessarily guaranteed anywhere near that on their backbone.) You can get a bunch of T1s for less. Heck, dual Cogent lines (for "resale") could save you $1,000/month.

I think $7,000/month is REALLY overpriced, although I suppose some really good services (like having a few dozen techs sitting around your computer all day) might make up for it.

xavopower
08-27-2002, 03:32 PM
they're always available when i need them, and the speed is really unbelieveable.

skylab
08-27-2002, 03:40 PM
you could have 2 (TWO) always available very fast 100-mbit cogent lines for $1000 less a month than you're paying now. or heck a bit slower yipes or verio line or something and still save.

that price is outrageous, unless you're talking high quality bandwidth. AND you cap a 100mbit line voluntarily at 600gb a month?

is this coming into your office? or do you have rackspace somewhere?? i would imagine you paying that amount for the drop + a cage or two.

if you don't mind, maybe a bit more information about your setup?

fog
08-27-2002, 03:44 PM
I'm not too sure how realistic Cogent is -- they're only available in certain places, and you apparently need to subscribe to at least a Gigabit to get Cogent to come to your building/house; so it might not be entirely practical. :(

But yeah, I really doubt that $7,000/month is worth it. (EDIT: If you've got $7,000/month to spare, go for it... I just think you can get a much better deal.)

skylab
08-27-2002, 03:48 PM
well, i mean, IF he has cagespace from a data center (it seems he's on a sprintlink line, which is more than pretty ok) then i'd imagine a cogent (or yipes or verio or aleron or something cheaper) drop would be available to him in the datacenter.

i agree he can be getting a better deal. if his sites are on that line, they're doing great though from europe. east coast sprintlink is great from austria. i'm a tad jealous there. :)

xavopower
08-27-2002, 03:51 PM
id rather not share too much info. however, it is 100mbps (which i just upgraded to 150 mbps, (only $500 more per month) they gave me a deal. So yes, im getting 150 MBPS for 7500 per month. Maybe they read the post here eh? As for as details, you'd have to ask my techs. I do know its high-quality, and it works very well. As far as capping it, with the 150mbps we are now caapping at 1500 gb ... my techs said 600 gb is good for a 10mbps line so, i raised it considerably. im just here to offer the best for my customer.

skylab
08-27-2002, 03:55 PM
yeah, i completely understand you not sharing, no problem at all. well good luck and with that attitude i'm pretty assured you can and will give the best to your customer.

zdwebhosting
08-27-2002, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by bigshow911
id rather not share too much info. however, it is 100mbps (which i just upgraded to 150 mbps, (only $500 more per month) they gave me a deal. So yes, im getting 150 MBPS for 7500 per month. Maybe they read the post here eh? As for as details, you'd have to ask my techs. I do know its high-quality, and it works very well. As far as capping it, with the 150mbps we are now caapping at 1500 gb ... my techs said 600 gb is good for a 10mbps line so, i raised it considerably. im just here to offer the best for my customer.

heh you could push 600 gigs comfortably on 5mbit lol you could on 2mbit but 5 on big peaks

lol your paying for way to much man

advantagecom
08-28-2002, 12:00 AM
You can do 350GB/mo on a T1 (1.536Mbits/sec) comfortably without any slowdown during peak hours.

Considering the going rate for T1 lines with Internet connectivity is about $700 a month (from a premium provider like ATT, Sprint, or Worldcom), you could load balance two T1 lines and easily shave $5600 off your monthly bill.