Need banners for WebHostingSources
http://www.webhostingsources.com

Banner Contest ends 8/28/2002 at 9pm - posted at webhostingtalk.com, freewebspace.net/forums and hostingchat.net

1st place $40, 2nd place $25, 3rd place $10

There are 3 winners for animated banners and 3 winners for static banners. Total of $150 in prizes.

Payment in US dollars.
Paypal used unless you have a secure web link.
Reserve the right to award only 1st place if not enough entries.

Submit banner in any of these sizes only:
Banner size 468 x 60 must be less than 12 kb
Square Logo size 120 x 60 must be less than 10 kb
Small Button size 88 x 31 must be less than 6 kb

Graphics can be animated or static but do not use flash.

Submit banners or website link to banner here or email webmaster@webhostingsources.com

All winning banners entered become property of Programmer Solutions, Inc.

Winning banners, current leaders and any additional information posted at:
http://www.webhostingsources.com/bannercontest.htm

Winning banners must submit original graphic file format with all requetsed changes after payment is made and received.

All graphic designers submitting a banner has the option of a free listing in WebHostingSources directory - details on reciprocal links in the web site faq. Reciprocal link requirement waived.


====>>> Sample wording for banners:
Need web hosting with Win2K, SQL Server, ASP and NET?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!

Is your web host missing?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!

Need web hosting deals you can't refuse?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!
Try WebHostingSources.com
Human edited directory of web hosting services

Does your web host suck?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!

Ready to dump your web host?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!

Does your web host say - No can do?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!

Trying to get your hands on a big rack?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!

Need high speed, reliable web hosting?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!

Need web hosting?
Windows, Unix, SQL Server, ASP, NET, mySql, etc.
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!

Need advanced web hosting?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!

Need budget web hosting?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less!

Ok here is my try. If you like it and need it customized just PM me to discuss it.;)

Watermarks help protect the graphic from others ripping it. In some cases, it is essential.

ultratorture

Very nice for a static banner!

Please add these words next to webhostingsources.com - Human edited directory of web hosting services

Change the red on the servers to grey.

ultra, looks like someone spilled blood on it lol

fabrikated

I understand the watermark idea.

But nobody but myself could use these banners if you add 'webhostingsources.com' somewhere on the banner.
Actually, all banners should have that since any web hosting directory could use any of the phases I left in the first message.

How about this, water mark is fine unless I decide its one of the top three then you must remove before the contest is over.

By the way Myles at prioritycolocation.com and Jeff-Rd (web designer who posts here) can let you know that I pay for services promptly.

Xatron

I actually took it to mean '...your host sucks' .... so i killed him!

here is mine:
http://godlike-community.com/BlueOx/works/whs.gif

LOL sorry about the 'blood' I'll change it with something new

deranged

slow the looping down, i'm too old to read that fast.

also need some graphics on those slides

ultratorture.

KEEP the blood........

under the line "Does your web host suck ?"

add this 'For the luv of God, don't kill them!'

OK here's the next one;)

here is mine, can be customized if you want

ultratorture

drop the ' ...' after the question mark
move the red bar to the last line
2nd line where the red bar was 'For the luv of God, don't kill them!'
Make all your splashes in red, especially all over the servers

it should look great

xatron

make the top line bigger, its hard to read

2nd line make in orange and move all the way to the right in bigger letters

make the colors of webhosting sources blue and orange. see a sample of the logo on my homepage.

ok

k here

xatron

i can barely read the text. it needs to be bigger and use dark blue

it was better when you had the lines rotating - try these

Does your web host suck?
Looking for a high-speed, reliable web host?
Want an offer you can't refuse?
Get great offers in 3 clicks or less

arg that takes a long time. can you ensure me a winning position before i continue to change it?

Xatron

Can't guarantee it will be top 3 at all.

Best to stop while you are ahead.

I might as well try, more 2 come :) (9KB)

ic3d

looks promising... not sure about the microsoft logo but...

Change the text
from "Get great offers in 3 clicks or LESS!"
to "Get great WEB HOSTING offers in ..."

from ">> GET IT NOW"
to ">>3 clicks or LESS"


change "asp, sql net" to 'ASP.NET"
change "reliable" to "SQL Server"
Change "24/7" to .NET

No problemo,

i'll fix something for the windows logo as well. But i thought it would fit cause you're a win2k hoster.

But will be tommorow since it's 5:50am here and i need some sleep :D

OK here's another one

ic3d

ok - i will be hitting the sack in another hour myself.

i can look again about 11 am CST Saturday till 2PM then its off to a wedding for the rest of the night.

ultratorture

this picture is better, but would like to see it on the 2nd banner with the wording changes

drop the ' ...' after the question mark

move the red bar to the last line

2nd line where the red bar was 'For the luv of God, don't kill them!'

Make all your splashes in red, especially all over the servers

Is this an interactive contest? Because I thought there is a prize and a deadline, so what's this all "tweak this" and "change that" and "ummm that frame needs some slowing down"?

timechange

Should i PM all those changes then? If not how else would I state your close or not?

markcw, contests have a set of guidelines and a timeframe. Then the entries are posted. Then you spend some time pondering in private "umm is it this...no, this looks better...this is the winner but it would still need a couple of tweaks" before you announce a winner.

That's my understanding of a clean contest.

ok, I can do that

ultratorture - banner 2 needs some work but I like

ic3d banner - 1 needs some changes but I like

Any changes I will ask for on Wednesday at 9pm

Ok here is mine :D

Size: 19k

ARYA

its webhostingsources.com but i like it!


Arya (animated) - banner.gif needs a minor change

ultratorture (static) - banner 2 needs some work but I like

ic3d banner (static) - 1 needs some changes but I like


If I get enough animated and static banners I will choose and pay 3 winners in each version.

that can be changed :) np

Well I might as well give it a shot...

Here goes nothing :)!

Size: 6.9kb

All banners entered become property of Programmer Solutions, Inc. Please do not enter banners with watermarks.

All banners entered?? Shouldn't that be all banners that win? What you are saying is that any and all submissions become your property as soon as they are submitted.

Could you please clarify?

Vito

And here goes nothing again ;) - this one is a static banner.

Size: 8.57kb

FuzzBall2k2

I like your first animated banner but will suggest some changes it stays in the top 3.
Vito

Only winners will be my property. Sorry about the confusion.

This is an update of my animated banner...

Size: 14.6kb

FuzzBall2k2 - looks great - you are leading in animated banner at this point! It needs to be about 3k smaller.


Banner Contest ends 8/28/2002 at 9pm
Current Leaders as of Saturday 3:15 pm
Will review more Saturday night after 11pm

Animated banners
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources3.gif - a wee bit too big
Arya (animated) - banner.gif needs a minor change

Static banners
ultratorture - banner 2 needs some work but I like
ic3d banner 1 needs some changes but I like

NOTE: There are 3 winners for animated banners and 3 winners for static banners.
Total of $150 in prizes was amended.

An animated banner for your consideration.

The only thing that is an issue is that I have to optimize it to your file size specs. But I won't bother doing it until I know if is a winner or not.

http://www.dzyntech.com/banners/whs_anim1.gif


Vito

Well, I optimized it as much as I could, but couldn't get below 12.83kb...

If you still need it below that, PM me (again).

Size: 12.83kb

Ook np markcw, here's # 4;)

Alright here's the next one minor changes:)

markcw >

Sorry i didn't have time today to fix the banner, but i will, np. And tommorow i'll post some others as well static / animated.

I like the overview u are giving. No peoples actually know something.

Square Logo (120 x 60)

Size: 9.98Kb

Vito - OUTSTANDING and CLEVER! Need to reduce the size And some other minor changes.

Fuzzball #4 - Looks good to go

Ultatorture banner5 is better than others I will have some changes.

dogbomb - VERY CLEVER. I will need some changes but I like the idea.


Banner Contest ends 8/28/2002 at 9pm
Current Leaders as of Sunday 12:30 am - back Sunday evening

Animated banners
Vito (animated) whs_anim1.gif - size change and other minor changes
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources3.gif - minor size change
dogbomb tied with Arya (animated) - banner.gif needs a minor change

Static banners
ultratorture - banner 4 needs just a bit more but I like
ic3d banner 1 needs some changes but I like

NOTE: There are 3 winners for animated banners and 3 winners for static banners.
Total of $150 in prizes was amended.

Originally posted by markcw

dogbomb - VERY CLEVER. I will need some changes but I like the idea.


Thank you. Any changes shouldn't be a problem. Just let me know.

Small Button (88 x 31)
Size : 3.57Kb

Colors on this one are INSTANTLY customisable.

Here's another animated banner :). Hope you like.

Size: 11.3kb

Thank you, Mark.

Ive added the other sizes for your consideration:

Animated:
468x60: http://www.dzyntech.com/banners/whs_anim1.gif
120x60: http://www.dzyntech.com/banners/whs_anim2.gif (7.7KB)
88x31 : http://www.dzyntech.com/banners/whs_anim3.gif (4KB)

Static:
468x60: http://www.dzyntech.com/banners/whs_static1.gif (6KB)

Vito

Vito - couldn't read those last entires - bad link?

Fuzzball #5 - Another clever idea, i will have some minor changes to it. You have 2 in the top 3




Banner Contest ends 8/28/2002 at 9pm
Current Leaders as of Sunday 5:30 pm - back later tonight, then monday after 5pm
One person can win all 6 prizes.

Animated banners
Vito (animated) whs_anim1.gif - size change and other minor changes
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources5.gif - minor change will be needed
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources4.gif - good to go
dogbomb tied with Arya (animated) - banner.gif needs a minor change

Static banners
ultratorture - banner 4 needs just a bit more but I like
ic3d banner 1 needs some changes but I like

NOTE: There are 3 winners for animated banners and 3 winners for static banners.
Total of $150 in prizes was amended.

Hmm. I just tried all the links again and they work for me. Please try them again. if they don't work, I'll just upload the images as attachments.

Vito

Slight suggested updates to my already submitted entires:

Slight suggested updates to my already submitted entires...

Well, as I'm not sure you are able to see them with the links I provided, here they are as attachments:

120x60 animated-

88x31 animated-

468x60 static-

Vito - the static looks good, not sure why but whs-anim2 is not to my liking, whs_anim3 is a nice button and I like but not in the top 3 - see below.

dogbomb - nice button size and logo animation but not in the top 3 - see below.


Banner Contest ends 8/28/2002 at 9pm
Current Leaders as of Sunday 6:45 pm - back at 10 pm Sunday, then monday after 5pm
One person can win all 6 prizes.

Animated banners
Vito (animated) whs_anim1.gif - size change and other minor changes
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources5.gif - minor change will be needed
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources4.gif - good to go


Static banners
ultratorture - banner 4 needs just a bit more but I like
Vito (static) whs_static1.gif - minor changes but nice
ic3d banner 1 needs some changes but I like

NOTE: There are 3 winners for animated banners and 3 winners for static banners. Total of $150 in prizes was amended.

Vito and dogbomb, I will contact after the contest about buying the button and logo size entries

Banner (468 x 60)
Size: 9.55 Kb

Square Logo (120 x 60)
Size: 3.2Kb

Are this the winners or do we still have 2 days (28th) ?

icd3 - These are the current leaders. Contest is open until Wednesday at 9pm

dogbomb - your static banner is in the top 3 - i will need a wording change

I will review more after 5pm central time. I'm in the office already.

Reminder - 1 person can win all the prizes.

*deleted by self*

Mark:

An abbreviated version of my first animated entry (in an effort to reduce file size):

Vito - I like the changes you made to fit the size requirement. You keep first place.

dogbomb - webhostingsources2.gif puts you 2nd place in static

Banner Contest ends 8/28/2002 at 9pm, One person can win all 6 prizes.

Current Leaders as of Monday 5:40 pm - back after 9 pm Monday, then tuesday after 6pm

Animated banners
Vito (animated) whs_anim1_short2.gif - minor changes
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources5.gif - minor change will be needed
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources4.gif - good to go

Static banners
ultratorture - banner 4 needs just a bit more but I like
dogbomb webhostingsources2.gif - Will need to change colors to match logo but I like it
Vito whs_static1.gif - minor changes but nice


NOTE: There are 3 winners for animated banners and 3 winners for static banners.
Total of $150 in prizes was amended.

Vito and dogbomb, I will contact after the contest about buying the button and logo size entries

Thanks, Mark.

I think some people here at WHT should take some lessons from this thread on how to properly run a contest...

Well done, Mark.


Vito

i agree with vito

Since my first banner is deleted from the top3, it doesn't make sense to edit it. So here's a second one.
Prob the english isn't even good, but you'll get the idea and i'll customize it ofcoarse.

and nr3

Actually it's banner 2 again, only i editted the bottom bar now.

icd3 - it pays to try again! - i like banner4, nice graphic on banner3 but i cannot come up with good text to match right now anyway - but 1st place as of now for the nice graphics on banner4, we will fix the text later.


Banner Contest ends 8/28/2002 at 9pm, One person can win all 6 prizes.

Current Leaders as of Monday 10:00 pm - back tuesday after 6pm

Animated banners
Vito (animated) whs_anim1_short2.gif - minor changes
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources5.gif - minor change will be needed
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources4.gif - good to go

Static banners
icd3 banner4 - Nice graphics! .. will need to change wording
ultratorture - banner 4 needs just a bit more but I like
dogbomb webhostingsources2.gif - Will need to change colors to match logo but I like it


NOTE: There are 3 winners for animated banners and 3 winners for static banners.
Total of $150 in prizes was amended.

Vito and dogbomb, I will contact after the contest about buying the button and logo size entries

Oh btw my banners come in 4 different colours 2 match the site using your banner

and nr 5

ic3d - I did not like banner5.

Everyone... on all banners the name webhostingsources will need to change to WebHosting (#006699) Sources(#FF9933)

see webhostingsources4 by FuzzBall2K2 for the colors

updated webhostingsources2.gif with the relevant color changes.

New animated banner (468 x 60)
Size: 2.608K

I set myself a task of making a tiny sized quickoading banner... this is what I came up with.

Hehe i hated banner 5 myself too :) but i thought what the hack, if u don't shoot u'll always mis :)

Here's another one, the smile can be changed in a handdrawed character, such as a dagobert duck look-a-like.
But it's just to give u an impression.

nr 7

Oops uploaded a wrong image in my last post, so here's nr7

Iam just trying some different styles so here's nr8 (only 2.4KB)

icd3 - I like banner6 even better than 4 - I was ROFL. You have top 2 static banner places. Banner 7 and 8 - I did not like.

dogbomb - webhostingsources3.gif - I like it but not in the top 3. I will make you an offer for this and the other smaller banners you made after the contest.


Banner Contest ends 8/28/2002 at 9pm, One person can win all 6 prizes.

Current Leaders as of Tuesday 4:30 pm - WIll check later tonight - Wednesday after 6pm (LAST DAY)

Animated banners
Vito (animated) whs_anim1_short2.gif - minor changes
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources5.gif - minor change will be needed
FuzzBall2K2 (animated) webhostingsources4.gif - good to go

Static banners
icd3 banner6 - ROFL - Very clever! .. will need a small change to wording
icd3 banner4 - Nice graphics! .. will need to change wording
ultratorture - banner 4 needs just a bit more but I like



NOTE: There are 3 winners for animated banners and 3 winners for static banners. Total of $150 in prizes (amended).

Everyone... on all banners the name webhostingsources will need to change to WebHosting (#006699) Sources(#FF9933)
see webhostingsources4 by FuzzBall2K2 for a sample.

Vito and dogbomb, I will contact after the contest about buying the button, logo size and banner entries that did not win.

A final animated entry from myself. (468 x 60)
Size: 11.8K

here is my submition, what'cha think?


468*60= http://visualnoise.net/tmp/whs1.gif 10kb
120*60= http://visualnoise.net/tmp/whs2.gif 6.95kb
88*31= http://visualnoise.net/tmp/whs3.gif 4.35kb




any changes can be done :-)



now i put the sizes on

Another animated banner, again, 468*60.

Size: 5.04kb

And another :).

Size: 8.22kb

here is 1 more of mines :-)

Aw, I only just now got the PM to check out this thread! I don't know what timezone the contest is based on, so I figured I'd throw one together tonight real quick, just in case I don't have time tomorrow. So what time zone is this? I'm available again tomorrow at 5:00pm EST.. will this be too late?

And contrary to my other thread in this forum, I'm not donating this one ;). I'm entering as any other participant.

And to everyone who requested in my thread, I'm not ditching you. Just that this is ending soon and I wanted to enter something. ;)


Static, 468*60, 9.5kb -- can optimize it more if need be. Figured I'd go along the toilet theme with this one. :)

Uh. It didn't include my attachment.. :erm: My forum rank says it all. :D

Here's my go:

http://www.gravicdesign.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ban.gif


Gray

Wow... these last banners are looking great.

Contest ends tonight at 9pm Central time (Chicago)

I will give comments after 5pm tonight. Gotta earn the paycheck to pay everyone! I will make offers on other banners that do not make the top 3.

Good luck to all!

Yeah, I just got a PM about it too. I'm not sure if I have time to enter, considering it seems nearly impossible to win anything at this point.

My only concern is you stated that any banner submitted, even if it doesn't win, becomes your property; is that correct? I would think I would have to win for you to get my banner.

Hi Tom:
Yes, actually I asked the same question earlier. But he clarified it. He owns the ones he buys, that's it.

Vito

Great!

Here is my first attempt:
Banner1.gif 11.8 KB
(static)

My second attempt:
banner2.gif 7.9 KB
(static)

Current Leaders as of Wednesday 5:30 pm - Ends at 9pm in 4 hours One person can win all 6 prizes. I will pay all winners even when tied.

Animated banners
1st - Vito (animated) whs_anim1_short2.gif - changes needed after contest

2nd - FuzzBall2k2 - #7 looks good - very original based - no changes needed

Tied at 3rd - FuzzBall2k2 - #6 I like it - changes needed after contest

Tied at 3rd - ZzPcPzZ whs4.gif - Simple but effective wording - no changes needed \



Static banners
1st - tom banner 1 - nice concept and graphics - changes needed after contest

2nd - tom banner 2 - nice concept and graphics - changes needed after contest

3rd - icd3 banner6 - ROFL - Very clever! - changes needed after contest


dogbomb webhostingsources_revive.gif - Interesting but not in the top 3. I will discuss after the contest.

FuzzBall2k2 - #6 I like it
FuzzBall2k2 - #7 looks good - very original based

ZzPcPzZ whs1.gif - I did not like
ZzPcPzZ whs2.gif - will discuss after contest to buy
ZzPcPzZ whs3.gif - will discuss after contest to buy
ZzPcPzZ whs4.gif - Simple but effective wording - tied at 3rd place

NoFolio - i did not like the last banner. But the concept is interesting

gravicdesign - i did not like the last banner

Tom - your 1st 2 entries just took over 1st and second in the static banner category. You might not want to give too many away! Very creative and great graphics to compliment the banners!

OK ill make a new one since i got know out of the contest. Coming up;)

Ok here it is. Hope you like it:D

Another banner (468 x 60)
Size: 18.32K

another

ultratorture

I likeee. Your tied for 3rd

dogbomb > Veyy very nice!

2 hours left.

Current Leaders as of Wednesday 7:00 pm - Ends at 9pm.
One person can win all 6 prizes. I will pay all winners even when tied.

Animated banners

1st - Dogbomb webhostingsources_ctr - Nice graphics and idea - it works for me. Need minor changes

2nd - Vito whs_anim1_short2.gif - changes needed after contest

Tied at 3rd - 2nd - FuzzBall2k2 - #7 looks good - very original based - no changes needed

Tied at 3rd - FuzzBall2k2 - #6 I like it - changes needed after contest

Tied at 3rd - ZzPcPzZ whs4.gif - Simple but effective wording - no changes needed



Static banners
1st - tom banner 1 - nice concept and graphics - changes needed after contest - need to shink a little bit if you can 8kb limit

2nd - tom banner 2 - nice concept and graphics - changes needed after contest

tied 3rd - icd3 banner6 - ROFL - Very clever! - changes needed after contest

tied - ultratorture banner6 - ROFL - Very clever! - changes needed after contest

tied - ultratorture banner7 - Very nice! - changes needed after contest

And another... must be in a creative mood:

banner (468 x 60)
Size: 16.46K

I have made the changes to my banner you have requested. It is ready for after the competition.

dogbomb...

webhostingsources_pullhair.gif has promise but no where near the last great banner!

w00h00, so like i get some money now :-). hehe, 3rd place, aint bad i guess.

damnit.. lost my 1st and 2nd place :(

Okay well let's try another one.

here

here is another animated:

ONE HOUR LEFT!!!!!

icd3 and ZzPcPzZ - not enough to kick anyone out of the top 3

Ok hurry hurry I hope this enough man. Its probably my final.

ultratorture - you were the first and I believe the most entries. You will be rewarded! Wait till contest ends.

Thx mark, my style has changed throughout the contest lol if you look

and another 1

here i mean :P

the stroke is not covering the whole banner, but that will be if u like this banner

icd3 - not enough to kick out other top 3


Only 10 minutes left.

and a little change 2 10

ok contest has ended.... no banners after this post accepted.

give me 20-30 minutes to double check the winners.

I didn't have time to create some killerbanners, cause i got stressed out by the time :P

But i might as well try, here's nr12

Cool...I'm glad I made those. I thought I had no chance :)

BTW, I have one more banner that I am almost finished with. I'll post it in a few minutes.

argh 2 late, i thought i still had some minutes :(

but whatever, wouldn't even made the top100.

but i broke my record, posting 12 banners :P

lol, anyway do i get ze money :-)

Iam curious of the whole list 1- all others (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,etc,ect,uget the point,:P) but i think he's not gonne post that, and i can't blame him for that :D

It's all about the top3 anyway.

CONTEST IS OVER!!!!
All winners - Please PM your email address so I can pay you via paypal. I will send payment, confirm receipt then please make changes listed, zip up the banner and the original format and email me at webmaster@webhostingsources.com or PM here.


Animated banners
$40 - Dogbomb webhostingsources_ctr - Nice graphics and work.
change 1st frame - 'Spending too much on web hosting?'

$25 - Vito whs_anim1_short2.gif - changes needed after contest
webhostingsources.com = (#006699)WebHostingSources(#FF9933)
on the blank frame change the looping to a shorter time

$10 - FuzzBall2k2 - #7 looks good - very original based - no changes needed
$10 - FuzzBall2k2 - #6 I like it - changes needed after contest
change wording to 'SQL Server', 'ASP', 'NET', 'Windows', 'Frontpage'
change color of the words above to black

$10 - ZzPcPzZ whs4.gif - Simple but effective wording - no changes needed \


Static banners
$40 - tom banner 1 - nice concept and graphics - changes needed after contest
need to shink a little bit if you can 8kb limit
$25 - tom banner 2 - nice concept and graphics - changes needed after contest
change 'webhostingsources' to WebHosting (#006699) Sources(#FF9933)


$10 - icd3 banner11 - Just the right touch added! Changes needed after contest
change text to 'Speed up your web host search!'
$10 - icd3 banner6 - ROFL - Very clever! - changes needed after contest
change the text = 'Does he look like your web host?'

$10 - ultratorture banner7 - Very nice! - changes needed after contest
change text on 1st panel "Time to dump your web host? Here's a bright idea"
see if it will fit on one line


Vito, dogbomb, icd3, ZzPcPzZ - contact me about buying the button, logo size and banner entries that did not win.

Thanks to everyone who entered a banner. It's been a blast!

ic3d - I think markcw will be chosing the best of the "rest" and will be making personal offers for them. So, you never know, you might be contacted for a few other designs a bit later :)

If you do, just say to yourself that it came 4th ;)

yeah i was just laming around a bit. :)

I'll pm you tommorow markcw, 4:48am already i need sleep :)

Thanks alot :D

I will make the changes tomorrow and send you the files.

Here is one more banner I just finished- it's sort of a spoof on the "get your hands on a big rack" slogan. I created a banner about getting your hands on a big rack...of ribs :). File size is too big (around 13K) but I'll fix that up tomorrow. I also need to slow down the animation.

Banner3.gif (13 KB)
(animated)

Tom,

your days of FREE should be over - just tell them you won 1st and 2nd in an open contest over a weeks time. And you did it on your only 2 banners on the last day!

Last banner is great too!