Hey...

Ive been looking long and hard for some programmers that are willing to custom dezine a control panel for myself and some other peeps...

I have found a low bidder willing to do it for $3700.00, which seems like a really good price for such a project considering the huge feature list included...

But i guess my question is this.. if i forked out the money for a panel like that and was trying to get my money back out of it.. do you think it would sell?

I mean could i sell it for like a one time fee of $125.00 a server and get the ball rolling good enough just to cover cost you think or would people not purchase since its not backed by a huge name like cpanel,etc...

$3700 is very cheap for someone to program a control panel. Usually your looking at 5 digits. I think that the most important thing is that the control panel is stable and has the features that you promise. If it is good, then people will buy it. Your support also depends on it. Be prepared to pay support technicans.

Thanks

Make sure you pay no more then 10% before the project is completed. I am pretty sure the developer will decide at some point that it is not worth it. (I hope I am wrong - but be very careful).

Yes this is true, read over your contract thousands of times and make sure everything is in there. Even little things that you may think are understood should be put in there. You never know when your programmers are gonna turn on you. :rolleyes:

Hi,

$3700....

Yeah right. Be serious.



Gareth

There is no contract actually,, they are designing it now and i will pay on completion if im satisfied with it, if not they will resale to another client they said..
I know these people so im not worried about that really..

But if it sucks ive lost nothing..

And about being serious.. I said it was a control panel, i didnt say it was going to be a competitor for plesk or helm or anything like that.... a simple panel, it will not allow me to re-route the nasa satelites and control servers from mars.. . sheesh..

And concerning control panels,, i think that its a bit weird how long contol panels have been charging rediculous prices for such a product.. maybe they are worth it but honestly its getting old.. the costs are getting crazy..

It would be very nice to get a professional design team on a control panel with an extreme features list that could make administoring the complete hosting environment a breeze.....

Yeah control panels are expensive.. but i think a bunch of people together on the project splitting the costs could easily make it happen and there would be no need for the high cost panels if more people would get things like that done,, but it will never happen, i know i would be willing to pay my share in order to see a group of free panels with the quality of WHM/Cpanel and helm released....

If you plan to sell the control panel, then you plan to compete with plesk and all the other panels. There are companies that are working to produce low cost panels with amazing features.

Thank You

I think there are soo many control panels under development now that its only a matter of time before an open source (free) panel manages to hit the big time and compete with the likes of cpanel etc..

We wish we had someone willing to do all the work for that price.

Heck, we would be willing to pay 10 people that amount... EACH! :D

Hahahaaaaa, $3700 for a control panel, I'm sorry, but they are having a laugh with you. $3700 doesn't a buy a lot of development time from a half decent programmer (I should know, it's my other occasional job).

I don't know how you could develop a control panel for that price though. If you can pull it off, great and good luck but it just seems hard to beleive. I remember when we first started gathering information on pricing and such. We were looking at like $15,000+.

But anyway, good luck to you and I hope it all works out.

Thanks

Having just thought about $3700, I've built websites that cost more then that :)

Considering Pixel Brick charges like $15,000+ for websites and a control panel is around 200 times more complicated.

Hmmm, well you get the idea.

Originally posted by Neo3Net
I don't know how you could develop a control panel for that price though. If you can pull it off, great and good luck but it just seems hard to beleive. I remember when we first started gathering information on pricing and such. We were looking at like $15,000+.

But anyway, good luck to you and I hope it all works out.

Thanks

Yeah, I know. We are developing our own control panel in house with two programmers working 40 hours and 20 hours weekly respectively. We have just past past stage 4 (beta) and we have paid these guys in excess of $12,000.00 so far. I am VERY satisfied with the development so far though.

$3,500 to develop a control panel is like hitting the jackpot. If you people can come up with something that works, then count your blessings. Much luck!

Well im paying nothing so it makes little difference to me:stickout

But worst thing happens they dont finish it and i get nothing pay nothing,, didnt hurt..

I know them and they offered,, i told them i could not afford the huge product costs, they asked what was most i could afford, and they said okay...

we'll see.

Originally posted by Jburnley


Yeah, I know. We are developing our own control panel in house with two programmers working 40 hours and 20 hours weekly respectively. We have just past past stage 4 (beta) and we have paid these guys in excess of $12,000.00 so far. I am VERY satisfied with the development so far though.

$3,500 to develop a control panel is like hitting the jackpot. If you people can come up with something that works, then count your blessings. Much luck!

How long have they been working for?

Cheers,

Originally posted by jonny b


How long have they been working for?

Cheers,

They started June 6th and have been at it since then.

Originally posted by Neo3Net
Considering Pixel Brick charges like $15,000+ for websites and a control panel is around 200 times more complicated.

Hmmm, well you get the idea.


Yeah, and pixelbrick sites are worth every penny. I like mine.

Imagine if you bought one and didnt like it ;)

Are these programmers in India/Russia/Ukraine etc. You get great programmers in these countries for a fraction of the cost in the US/UK.

Originally posted by ubergeek22
Are these programmers in India/Russia/Ukraine etc. You get great programmers in these countries for a fraction of the cost in the US/UK.

Yeah, I know. But when you're doing software such as a control panel that could potentially be of very high value to you, then you want to be very careful how you approach these oversea developers. Who is to say they won't simply keep the code, reproduce similar copies of your copyrighted material and start selling. Know US laws will stop them.

That would be a sweet deal for $3,700. Alot of development work including my company, the going rate for development is $145/hr.

For a control panel, that requires lots of man hours and a guy/gal who knows what they are doing as far system admin level work is concern.

My company has been trying to find the right mix of a person with development experience and system administration experience to build a control panel, but with the job market of today, it's hard to find the right guy for that line of work.

I would be hestitant with the group who can offer it for 3,700 bucks. They should provide to you a specs of the project so you are clear what they will be delivering, the features, and perhaps a break down of each part of the control panel so they can justify the time that will be spent on it.

Just my 2 cents. . .

Originally posted by jdp29053
And about being serious.. I said it was a control panel, i didnt say it was going to be a competitor for plesk or helm or anything like that.... a simple panel, it will not allow me to re-route the nasa satelites and control servers from mars.. . sheesh..

LOL - Strewth - Didn't realise plesk or helm could do that. Cool - i want one!!

I wonder if they are just going to customise webmin or something and say that it was done by themselves? Just a thought.

Yep, I was thinking the same. What if they found a free control panel like WebCP or SimpleCP and just added your features. That would be alright but it probally wouldn't run as smooth as you want. But HELL your only paying pennies.

That would be okay by me except the fact they would be ripping someone elses work wich i couldnt deal with even if i was getting a good deal.. as of now the project is totalling 5k it appears but thats still cheap and still a long way to go..

But anyway, how can i be sure the panel is legit, i wouldnt want to redistribute or show anything like that..

open source fool;)

yeah its open source.. but thats not what im paying for is what im saying.. see what i mean..

There wont be much way of telling, if they customise it to your specifications then it probably wont show anywhere that they started with an existing control panel, unless they leave the opensource headers intact :) :)

HAHAHA That would be great. If they left the headers there.

:D

$5000 lol no offfense but thats like nothing at all.

go for it

Originally posted by markcastle


LOL - Strewth - Didn't realise plesk or helm could do that. Cool - i want one!!

Well helm seems to do everything else. :stickout

Originally posted by ubergeek22
Are these programmers in India/Russia/Ukraine etc. You get great programmers in these countries for a fraction of the cost in the US/UK.

Aren't the HC developers in India or something like that?

what's this 'Helm' everyone seems to be mentioing all of a sudden?

Helm is a multiple server, multiple service control panel/ticketing/billing system for windows...

There website is www.webhostautomation.com

Forgive the vague description, but since it has not been released yet thats all i know..

Its in Beta at the moment so there must be users around.

I think the origional question was if people would buy it not to insult or laugh at this person. I am too new at this hosting thing and when I posted on another board about it I got downgraded, beat, abused , and basically forced out. So wont the ones laughin quit, cause it wil be the person in question that will be laughing last. I would like to say dude I hope you get it cause im lookin for a simple easy to understand CP

altogh he may not be new