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mossimo32001
05-01-2008, 03:48 AM
i have already a reseller account. But i would like to ask some question.
I have a prospective client but he asked me if i can handle the 9000 emails...
in my reseller account i can only have a 10,000MB diskspace and 10GB Bandwith.
so i think its not possible in my reseller....

1.so what hosting package i can give to accommodate my client needs?
2. It is possible to have different hosting for only email accounts,
I mean really i do not have a webhosting company like other i just sell the web services
making static website..like that so it is possible i can host a domain where i can upload their site but who handle their email is not me.

I mean i will add their site pages in my reseller but their email in different hosting company.. is this possible?

thanks!!!

kazila
05-01-2008, 02:02 PM
I wouldn't be able to tell you if your reseller account can handle his mailbox as it all depends on his current mailbox quota. You can though point your mailing server elsewhere. You would do this by changing the MX record. If you are unsure on how to change the mailing server, you can contact your web hosting & they should be able to change it for you.

daejuanj
05-01-2008, 02:04 PM
That's a lot of spam.

Is this inbound or outbound?

kazila
05-01-2008, 02:08 PM
That's a lot of spam.


I Agree. I think he needs to delete some of his emails as I am pretty sure all 9,000 are not legit.

daejuanj
05-01-2008, 02:13 PM
I Agree. I think he needs to delete some of his emails as I am pretty sure all 9,000 are not legit.
I would question whether his "prospective client" is a spammer or not?

dhcart
05-01-2008, 05:26 PM
He can create unlimited emails theoretically. But your hosting provider will not allow to send emails more than few hundred per hour. I think your customer want to open an email service(such as Hotmail). He can host his web site on your reseller account and can get this service from another company such as Everyone.net(look at http://www.everyone.net/private-label-email/offer-free-email.html). He'll only change the MX record of his account as mail service provider(he or you can do it easily).

bettysue
05-02-2008, 04:57 PM
(I do hope it's ok to post in a thread that has a subject along the lines of what I am looking for instead of starting a new thread, if not, please let me know and I will change it.)

We already have 3 reseller accounts at the same host, however we need to find a VERY reliable one elsewhere also due to a similar email situation.

We have one client that is a Chamber of Commerce that sends out newsletters to 500 members a few times a month. Our reseller provider has a 100 email per hour cap which the client does not like. We tried getting him a bulk email account at our registry account, but it doesn't allow for the way he likes to do his newsletters which is in MS Publisher then copy and paste the results into email. We've tried the mail server script to go around the host that you buy and didn't care for that solution. So we have decided we just want control of it ourselves on our own reseller site.

We now have a second client who is opening a business which will require mass email to out of town employees, some with attachments. They also need a server which has very reliable mysql database servers and up time. My current provider has the uptime and db behind them, but the bulk mail is still the issue.

Plus my feeling is with over 200 sites, even though they are spread over 3 servers, I am getting that uneasy feeling about all my eggs in the same basket.

I want the reseller end to be like what we have now, the WHM and CPanel, and I also want every account we set up to have their own CPanel. I do not like the 1 CPanel like BlueHost(why my boss isn't allowed to pick a host anymore!) that handles all of the accounts.

Did I mention reliable? Obviously very important as one of these sites is already very busy and we expect the other to be. We will be moving some of our others here as well plus new clients, several of which run Zencart and others a php directory. Again, more mySql database clients.

To start, we would probably be looking for a reseller account with about 7-10 gigs of space, unlimited domains, WHM, CPanel, Fantastico, no email restriction except for spam, unlimited mysql databases, unlimited ftp accounts, and the usual list of add-ons.

Thank You,
betty

chenetwork
05-03-2008, 01:44 AM
Betty:

You should look into a professional email solution. There may be an opportunity to have a template designed for your customer's newsletter that can be tweaked for additional newsletters distributions via a built in WYSIWYG editor as opposed to doing all the work in MS Publisher. Is your client just taking the MS Publisher data and pasting it into Outlook? That's not a very efficient way to handle it anyway as there are subscribe/unsubscribe issues to deal with manually and Outlook doesn't always create clean HTML code.

Look at getting a reseller account with another provider. Move over some of your low end accounts to test the waters of that reseller and when they prove to be reliable, you can then transfer more accounts over to spread the load.

bettysue
05-03-2008, 02:13 AM
Betty:

You should look into a professional email solution. There may be an opportunity to have a template designed for your customer's newsletter that can be tweaked for additional newsletters distributions via a built in WYSIWYG editor as opposed to doing all the work in MS Publisher. Is your client just taking the MS Publisher data and pasting it into Outlook? That's not a very efficient way to handle it anyway as there are subscribe/unsubscribe issues to deal with manually and Outlook doesn't always create clean HTML code.

Look at getting a reseller account with another provider. Move over some of your low end accounts to test the waters of that reseller and when they prove to be reliable, you can then transfer more accounts over to spread the load.

He signed up at a place called something like Contact as you get 60 days free. They have built in templates, etc. Somehow he set it up wrong, it still went through our hosting, plus he didn't like their interface either. We are talking about a very, very web dysfunctional individual. We talk him through his Outlook set-up at least once a month. I think it's a case of being a little past middle age and set in his ways and so instead of getting him to adapt to something, we are going to need to adapt to him.

Also the other client we are building a new database project for will be sending out mass emails with word attachments. Right now they have about 10,000 clients, which they will not be emailing all at once, but we need to prepare for a large mailout sometimes daily that is legitimate mail. They also receive a high volume of incoming mail which isn't a problem yet where we are. Once the new job starts we need to have them set up elsewhere.

Your idea of putting several small sites on the new host is excellent advice and what I will do, thank you! Now I just need to weed through the reviews and find one that allows the bulk mail along with our other requirements.

We had planned last december that in some point in 2008 to do the dedicated (or is it virtual) server thing due to our growing list of accounts, but again that would put all of them in the same location. Plus I'm not sure of if they are more or less reliable than regular reseller accounts, and I am in a quandry as to if now is the time or not as this new account will make the 4th reseller account we have.

I'm so confused :confused: however at least I got some good advice from your response that helps with some of it.

thank you,
betty

mossimo32001
05-03-2008, 02:16 AM
I wouldn't be able to tell you if your reseller account can handle his mailbox as it all depends on his current mailbox quota. You can though point your mailing server elsewhere. You would do this by changing the MX record. If you are unsure on how to change the mailing server, you can contact your web hosting & they should be able to change it for you.

My perspective client is a school so they need email for their student and teacher...
But i think i cannot handle their email 9000 email so i want them to STAY in their hosting company who handle their email...but i will change their site..
so its possible jsut to change the mX recorder?

kazila
05-05-2008, 05:45 PM
My perspective client is a school so they need email for their student and teacher...
But i think i cannot handle their email 9000 email so i want them to STAY in their hosting company who handle their email...but i will change their site..
so its possible jsut to change the mX recorder?

Sorry about the delay. What you want to do is keep the DNS pointed there & have them just change their A records. That way you dont need to mess with the MX record & it makes it much easier.


I hope that helps!

mrzippy
05-06-2008, 10:47 AM
Plus my feeling is with over 200 sites, even though they are spread over 3 servers, I am getting that uneasy feeling about all my eggs in the same basket.

I want the reseller end to be like what we have now, the WHM and CPanel, and I also want every account we set up to have their own CPanel.

To be very honest, if you have over 200 sites then you should be able to afford a dedicated server. If not, then you might want to rethink your pricing strategy, since you've reached a level where no reseller who offers very reliable servers (with the email limits you desire) is going to meet your needs (ie: low price).

For example, you can get a fully managed dedicated server from a reputable company like www.HTTPme.com. (link (http://www.httpme.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=187)) Your mail sending limit is whatever *you* want it to be, and you basically get a big WHM reseller account while they fully manage the server. It's like a big reseller account, but you are the only one on the server.

Expensive? Not really, considering the level of management they provide.

IMHO, that is your best solution to move upward and forward.

Bold Outlook
05-07-2008, 12:13 PM
Any client that I've had who sent 9000 emails was a spammer.
The person could be a marketer, but likelihood is low.

mossimo32001
05-08-2008, 02:27 AM
this is university so they have 9000 or more email for students and faculty...
i try to used the GMail but when i try to add their domain in GMAIL APPLICATION their domain is already exist...

thanks!!